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Dear Pradeep

 

What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis of

divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to be some

help if you reframe your question.

regards

partha

 

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a

> > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc

starting

> > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come across

> > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I have

> > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha Raoji.It is

> > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be needed

as

> > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us

> > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts.

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> > Pradeep

> >

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Dear Parthasarathy ji

 

Thanks for lending your hand.

 

I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha

division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting starts from

itself,while for others it starts from 5,9.

 

In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional

charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one sees

amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be drawn as

a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions.

 

Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha say in Leo -

they cannot be actually together,unless they are together in

Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a particular

Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another Rashi.Thus

though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse this

together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi -

reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign it is

there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should be

analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at Rashi

level.

Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any

reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like

Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the planets in

the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its relation with

the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts

(nakshthras are automatically taken care).

 

My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly help me

with your knowledge.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep

>

> What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis of

> divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to be some

> help if you reframe your question.

> regards

> partha

>

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > >

> > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a

> > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc

> starting

> > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come

across

> > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I

have

> > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha Raoji.It

is

> > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be

needed

> as

> > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us

> > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance

> > > Pradeep

> > >

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Dear Pradeep

 

 

The divisional charts are the finer layers of the person's being.

 

THere are five kosas of a human being according to Shankaracharya

 

a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body)

b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body)

c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body)

d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body)

e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath)

 

The higher divisional charts show the impressions formed and carried

due to the various past life karmas. These impressions if not

detected, would repeat again and again. A person divorcing his wife

in past life may get the problem again, if he does not burn away the

past karma.

 

All the rules applicable to Rasi chart are applicable to Divisional

charts.

 

Jupiter-moon yoga in a divisional chart is as valid as in rasi chart.

When you see a person, you are actually seeing the gross body. You

are not looking at his aura, the four other bodies, the subtle

impressions that he is carrying. Thus any yoga that is there in

subtle bodies is bound to give its effects. I may not have Gaja

Kesari yoga in present life time, infact i have a sakata yoga. But i

have Gaja kesari yoga in past life, whose rewards i am reaping in

this life.

more later

regards

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear Parthasarathy ji

>

> Thanks for lending your hand.

>

> I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha

> division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting starts from

> itself,while for others it starts from 5,9.

>

> In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional

> charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one sees

> amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be drawn as

> a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions.

>

> Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha say in

Leo -

> they cannot be actually together,unless they are together in

> Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a particular

> Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another Rashi.Thus

> though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse this

> together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi -

> reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign it is

> there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should be

> analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at Rashi

> level.

> Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any

> reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like

> Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the planets in

> the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its relation with

> the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts

> (nakshthras are automatically taken care).

>

> My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly help me

> with your knowledge.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep

> >

> > What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis of

> > divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to be

some

> > help if you reframe your question.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > >

> > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a

> > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc

> > starting

> > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come

> across

> > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I

> have

> > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha Raoji.It

> is

> > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be

> needed

> > as

> > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us

> > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

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||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Partha,

 

Is this correct?

 

a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body) - 1st harmonic (D-1 to D-12)

b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body) - 2nd harmonic (D-12 to D-24)

c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body) - 3rd harmonic (D-24 to D-36)

d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body) - 4th harmonic (D-36 to

D-48)

e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath) - 5th and greater harmonics (>

D-48)

 

 

regards

Hari

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Dear Hari

 

As per the available literature i can agree with you. But i am still

doing research.

 

IMHO the supra-causal plane or the Anandamaya Kosa starts at d-60 ,

the reason being Parasara's statement that D-60 can show everything.

 

D-40, d-48 are still in realm of the present time. The genes or the

karmas of maternal grandparents (d-40) and karmas of paternal

grandparents(d-45) is not exactly the Bliss sheath. I have read in

varga chakra or somewhere that the finer divisional charts between d-

48 and d-60 are not used but if research is done can be useful in

finding the "karana sarira" of the soul. The soul in its spiritual

journey carries the Karana sarira till it gets liberated. This karana

sarira is discussed in many classics. SO whether d-48 to d-60 can

show bliss sheath, or is it d-60 and higher vargas such as d-108, nadi

(d-150) is a point of speculation. But i would go for d-60 and higher

vargas as Bliss Sheath.

 

Unless the knowledge of vedas and upanishads is not integrated with

Jyotish shastra, we will always be discussing "when jupiter would

transit leo" and "when will i get promotion etc"

regards

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari>

wrote:

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Partha,

>

> Is this correct?

>

> a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body) - 1st harmonic (D-1 to D-12)

> b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body) - 2nd harmonic (D-12 to D-24)

> c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body) - 3rd harmonic (D-24 to D-36)

> d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body) - 4th harmonic (D-36 to

> D-48)

> e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath) - 5th and greater harmonics

(>

> D-48)

>

>

> regards

> Hari

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dear pradeep

 

Few more points

 

a) The divisions have to be understood in terms of nakshatra padas

rather than rasis.

b) All the moon, jupiter and ketu nakshatra padas would fall in

aries, taurus, mithuna and karka navamsas.

c) All the venus, saturn and mars nakshatra padas would fall in leo,

kanya, thula and vrischika navamsas.

d) All the sun, rahu and budha nakshatra padas would fall in sagi,

capricorn, aquarius and pisces navamsas

 

What could be the reason, is it because , ketu(governer of kundalini

shakti and ashtottari dasa also), Jupiter, moon show the conception,

birth and nurturing,

what do saturn, venus and mars do, they give stability, marriage and

power and action respectively

What do SUn, rahu and mercury do, they help in realsing one's

potential through learning.introspection that leads to knowledge of

shiva.

 

Ketu represents ganesh who worships on yellow square near mooladhara,

moon represents the caring and jupiter the birth of sound, Yagna, the

mantropadesa etc.

 

Venus-mars-saturn rule the swadhisthana, manipura and the anahata

chakra, thus the middle part of the life, or rather the incomplete

journey

 

Sun represents the sahasrara, rahu represents the point above the

sahasrara or the ultravoilet, and mercury represents the return to

innocence-mooladhara.

 

There are 108 padas of 27 nakshatras, 27 nakshatras are distributed

in such a fashion that each zodiac gets 9 nakshatra padas.

9-represents the total number of planets, it is a divine number and

it has deep metaphysical and spiritual significance. So you can do

more research and find out for other divisional charts.

regards

partha

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep

>

> The way you are dividing the rasi chart is like cutting the bread

> with knife, if i could have used a better analogy.

>

> Sarvartha chintamani, and to some extent Phala deepika i guess have

> good information on divisional charts. Even saravali has some.

>

> You can explore those, but the available translations would again

> talk about cutting of the bread.

>

> Logic cuts and discriminates, but the understanding does not come

> from logic, logic is very useful in mathematics and science but not

> in shastras.

>

> The basis of divisionals has to be understood first. What is the

> deeper significance of divisions, is it just to divide the rasi

chart

> in various parts, put planets in different rasis??, what exactly is

> the basis of divisions then.

>

> THere are four goals of a jeeva's life, Dharma , artha , kama ,

> moksha.

> THis four fold path has to be understood. All the divisional charts

> are founded on this basic template.

>

> I have explained in other mails about the physical planes, the

> intelligence planes and the causal planes. All the planes are again

> formed on the basis of a few parameters.

>

> d-16 is the chart of luxuries and sukha, now what is the basis of d-

> 16. If you divide 16/12 rasis, you get a remainder of 4. Thus 4th

> house is the basis of shodasamsa.

> For d-24, 12th house is the basis, and for vimsamsa(d-20) 8th house

> is the basis.

>

> 4th house, 8th and 12th house are the foundations for moksha, they

> are the moksha sthanas.

>

> 3.2 degrees is a mathematical output of the division that we

perform

> on a rasi by 9. Now why 9?, 9 shows our guru, our tradition, the

> parampara, the higher guidance, it also shows the fortune. So

> Divisional charts at physical planes such as navamsa show fortune

and

> talents that are easily manfiested. But when you go to Nakshatramsa

(d-

> 27) whose basis is also 9, you are not talking about talents alone,

> you are also talking about the finer psychological aspects of

> strenghts and weaknesses of a person, his motivations, and his

> depressions etc.

>

> more later

> regards

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear Partha ji

> >

> > Thanks for igniting the thought process and guiding it through

new

> > channels, as you always do:)

> > The statement regarding indications in the Rashi and the

necessity

> > of its realization to avoid re occurences were also good.

> > I will search for the various Koshas mentioned.I can also relate

or

> > coform with your logic.Because the more you divide the finer you

> > discover.And hence divisional charts shows finer elements.

> >

> > But i am not fully satisfied with the second part.

> >

> > My questions were seeking some explanation plus references from

the

> > classics.(House concepts in divisional charts and aspects).

> >

> > Let us assume we are constructing a navamsha chart.

> > We have Rashi in hand.We also have a chart template with no

entries

> > for making navamsha.

> > Let us go to Lagna in Rashi ,assume it is Sag.We divide Sag into

> nine

> > (starting with Aries,as fifth from Sag is Aries).If the degree of

> > lagna is 11 in Rashi, then lagna falls in the fourth navamsha

> > division - Cancer,.

> > We go to our template chart and mark - ASC in Cancer.

> > Similarly we go to second house in Rashi - We divide it into nine

> > and since Capricorn is a movable Rashi, navamsha starts from

> > Capricorn itself.If moon was placed at 2 degrees in Rashi,then

moon

> > falls in the first (3.2 degree)division of Navamsha ie Capricorn

> > itself.We go to our template chart and mark MO in Capricorn.But

now

> > the house in which moon is placed becomes '7' (as Capricorn is

> > seventh from Cancer).Similarly another planet which was at 29

> > degrees in 2nd house goes to 3rd house in Virgo.Thus what we have

> > done is, just the scattering of planets in a template chart for

the

> > easiness of understanding its finer placements.Only logical thing

> > what we have done is dividing each rashi into 9 and finding the

> > exact nava amsha placement of that planet.But i am unable to find

> > the logic behind following house system similar to Rashi.(I found

> > from cup of magic site the logic behind finding the first

navamsha

> > in each sign)

> >

> > Hence my request to help me in finding a reference regarding this

> in

> > Classics.Similarly aspects are due to the angular placements of

> > planets.Even if we divide a rashi into 100 divisions the planets

> > position remains the same.Only thing what we are discovering new

is

> > the finer details of its position(environment).For example when

> > looking from a higher level in human body we can say hand has got

> > nails.But when we divide or go closer we can say the nails are

part

> > of the palm and further division says it is part of fingers.Thus

we

> > are identifying the finer rashi properties within a Rashi

(assuming

> > every rashi consists of tattwas of other rashis(Shiv Chadda jis

> > mail) and also related to nakshatra charana (Chandrashekhar jis

> > mail).But the position of the concerned planet w.r to other

planets

> > remains the same irrespective of any number of divisions.Hence

the

> > aspects has to remain the same as in Rashi.What do you think?

> > Otherwise we have to find a new logic behind this aspect.

> >

> > Kindly think over this and try to help me.If possible i will be

> > happy if you could give some reference regarding house system and

> > aspects in divisional charts.

> >

> > Best Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> > > The divisional charts are the finer layers of the person's

being.

> > >

> > > THere are five kosas of a human being according to

Shankaracharya

> > >

> > > a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body)

> > > b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body)

> > > c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body)

> > > d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body)

> > > e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath)

> > >

> > > The higher divisional charts show the impressions formed and

> > carried

> > > due to the various past life karmas. These impressions if not

> > > detected, would repeat again and again. A person divorcing his

> > wife

> > > in past life may get the problem again, if he does not burn

away

> > the

> > > past karma.

> > >

> > > All the rules applicable to Rasi chart are applicable to

> > Divisional

> > > charts.

> > >

> > > Jupiter-moon yoga in a divisional chart is as valid as in rasi

> > chart.

> > > When you see a person, you are actually seeing the gross body.

> You

> > > are not looking at his aura, the four other bodies, the subtle

> > > impressions that he is carrying. Thus any yoga that is there in

> > > subtle bodies is bound to give its effects. I may not have Gaja

> > > Kesari yoga in present life time, infact i have a sakata yoga.

> But

> > i

> > > have Gaja kesari yoga in past life, whose rewards i am reaping

in

> > > this life.

> > > more later

> > > regards

> > > partha

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > Dear Parthasarathy ji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for lending your hand.

> > > >

> > > > I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha

> > > > division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting starts

> > from

> > > > itself,while for others it starts from 5,9.

> > > >

> > > > In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional

> > > > charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one

> sees

> > > > amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be

> drawn

> > as

> > > > a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions.

> > > >

> > > > Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha say

in

> > > Leo -

> > > > they cannot be actually together,unless they are together in

> > > > Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a

particular

> > > > Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another

Rashi.Thus

> > > > though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse

> this

> > > > together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi -

> > > > reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign it

> is

> > > > there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should be

> > > > analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at

Rashi

> > > > level.

> > > > Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any

> > > > reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like

> > > > Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the

planets

> > in

> > > > the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its

relation

> > with

> > > > the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts

> > > > (nakshthras are automatically taken care).

> > > >

> > > > My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly

help

> > me

> > > > with your knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > > > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > > What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis

of

> > > > > divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to

be

> > > some

> > > > > help if you reframe your question.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > partha

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions

within

> a

> > > > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60

> > etc

> > > > > starting

> > > > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you

> come

> > > > across

> > > > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with

> > astrology.I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha

> > Raoji.It

> > > > is

> > > > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not

be

> > > > needed

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could

help

> > us

> > > > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional

> > charts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

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Dear Partha ji

 

Thanks a lot for the useful hints.

Chandrashekhar ji had also mentioned about nakshathra charana lords.I

was trying to find a relation but i couldn't as it was not easy -

think i have to dig a lot to understand the relation between

nakshathra padas within a rashi and relation between their lords and

Rashi lords vis-a-vis divisional charts.

I will study your mail carefully and will reply later.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

> dear pradeep

>

> Few more points

>

> a) The divisions have to be understood in terms of nakshatra padas

> rather than rasis.

> b) All the moon, jupiter and ketu nakshatra padas would fall in

> aries, taurus, mithuna and karka navamsas.

> c) All the venus, saturn and mars nakshatra padas would fall in

leo,

> kanya, thula and vrischika navamsas.

> d) All the sun, rahu and budha nakshatra padas would fall in sagi,

> capricorn, aquarius and pisces navamsas

>

> What could be the reason, is it because , ketu(governer of

kundalini

> shakti and ashtottari dasa also), Jupiter, moon show the

conception,

> birth and nurturing,

> what do saturn, venus and mars do, they give stability, marriage

and

> power and action respectively

> What do SUn, rahu and mercury do, they help in realsing one's

> potential through learning.introspection that leads to knowledge of

> shiva.

>

> Ketu represents ganesh who worships on yellow square near

mooladhara,

> moon represents the caring and jupiter the birth of sound, Yagna,

the

> mantropadesa etc.

>

> Venus-mars-saturn rule the swadhisthana, manipura and the anahata

> chakra, thus the middle part of the life, or rather the incomplete

> journey

>

> Sun represents the sahasrara, rahu represents the point above the

> sahasrara or the ultravoilet, and mercury represents the return to

> innocence-mooladhara.

>

> There are 108 padas of 27 nakshatras, 27 nakshatras are distributed

> in such a fashion that each zodiac gets 9 nakshatra padas.

> 9-represents the total number of planets, it is a divine number and

> it has deep metaphysical and spiritual significance. So you can do

> more research and find out for other divisional charts.

> regards

> partha

>

> vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep

> >

> > The way you are dividing the rasi chart is like cutting the bread

> > with knife, if i could have used a better analogy.

> >

> > Sarvartha chintamani, and to some extent Phala deepika i guess

have

> > good information on divisional charts. Even saravali has some.

> >

> > You can explore those, but the available translations would again

> > talk about cutting of the bread.

> >

> > Logic cuts and discriminates, but the understanding does not come

> > from logic, logic is very useful in mathematics and science but

not

> > in shastras.

> >

> > The basis of divisionals has to be understood first. What is the

> > deeper significance of divisions, is it just to divide the rasi

> chart

> > in various parts, put planets in different rasis??, what exactly

is

> > the basis of divisions then.

> >

> > THere are four goals of a jeeva's life, Dharma , artha , kama ,

> > moksha.

> > THis four fold path has to be understood. All the divisional

charts

> > are founded on this basic template.

> >

> > I have explained in other mails about the physical planes, the

> > intelligence planes and the causal planes. All the planes are

again

> > formed on the basis of a few parameters.

> >

> > d-16 is the chart of luxuries and sukha, now what is the basis of

d-

> > 16. If you divide 16/12 rasis, you get a remainder of 4. Thus 4th

> > house is the basis of shodasamsa.

> > For d-24, 12th house is the basis, and for vimsamsa(d-20) 8th

house

> > is the basis.

> >

> > 4th house, 8th and 12th house are the foundations for moksha,

they

> > are the moksha sthanas.

> >

> > 3.2 degrees is a mathematical output of the division that we

> perform

> > on a rasi by 9. Now why 9?, 9 shows our guru, our tradition, the

> > parampara, the higher guidance, it also shows the fortune. So

> > Divisional charts at physical planes such as navamsa show fortune

> and

> > talents that are easily manfiested. But when you go to

Nakshatramsa

> (d-

> > 27) whose basis is also 9, you are not talking about talents

alone,

> > you are also talking about the finer psychological aspects of

> > strenghts and weaknesses of a person, his motivations, and his

> > depressions etc.

> >

> > more later

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > Dear Partha ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for igniting the thought process and guiding it through

> new

> > > channels, as you always do:)

> > > The statement regarding indications in the Rashi and the

> necessity

> > > of its realization to avoid re occurences were also good.

> > > I will search for the various Koshas mentioned.I can also

relate

> or

> > > coform with your logic.Because the more you divide the finer

you

> > > discover.And hence divisional charts shows finer elements.

> > >

> > > But i am not fully satisfied with the second part.

> > >

> > > My questions were seeking some explanation plus references from

> the

> > > classics.(House concepts in divisional charts and aspects).

> > >

> > > Let us assume we are constructing a navamsha chart.

> > > We have Rashi in hand.We also have a chart template with no

> entries

> > > for making navamsha.

> > > Let us go to Lagna in Rashi ,assume it is Sag.We divide Sag

into

> > nine

> > > (starting with Aries,as fifth from Sag is Aries).If the degree

of

> > > lagna is 11 in Rashi, then lagna falls in the fourth navamsha

> > > division - Cancer,.

> > > We go to our template chart and mark - ASC in Cancer.

> > > Similarly we go to second house in Rashi - We divide it into

nine

> > > and since Capricorn is a movable Rashi, navamsha starts from

> > > Capricorn itself.If moon was placed at 2 degrees in Rashi,then

> moon

> > > falls in the first (3.2 degree)division of Navamsha ie

Capricorn

> > > itself.We go to our template chart and mark MO in Capricorn.But

> now

> > > the house in which moon is placed becomes '7' (as Capricorn is

> > > seventh from Cancer).Similarly another planet which was at 29

> > > degrees in 2nd house goes to 3rd house in Virgo.Thus what we

have

> > > done is, just the scattering of planets in a template chart for

> the

> > > easiness of understanding its finer placements.Only logical

thing

> > > what we have done is dividing each rashi into 9 and finding the

> > > exact nava amsha placement of that planet.But i am unable to

find

> > > the logic behind following house system similar to Rashi.(I

found

> > > from cup of magic site the logic behind finding the first

> navamsha

> > > in each sign)

> > >

> > > Hence my request to help me in finding a reference regarding

this

> > in

> > > Classics.Similarly aspects are due to the angular placements of

> > > planets.Even if we divide a rashi into 100 divisions the

planets

> > > position remains the same.Only thing what we are discovering

new

> is

> > > the finer details of its position(environment).For example when

> > > looking from a higher level in human body we can say hand has

got

> > > nails.But when we divide or go closer we can say the nails are

> part

> > > of the palm and further division says it is part of

fingers.Thus

> we

> > > are identifying the finer rashi properties within a Rashi

> (assuming

> > > every rashi consists of tattwas of other rashis(Shiv Chadda jis

> > > mail) and also related to nakshatra charana (Chandrashekhar jis

> > > mail).But the position of the concerned planet w.r to other

> planets

> > > remains the same irrespective of any number of divisions.Hence

> the

> > > aspects has to remain the same as in Rashi.What do you think?

> > > Otherwise we have to find a new logic behind this aspect.

> > >

> > > Kindly think over this and try to help me.If possible i will be

> > > happy if you could give some reference regarding house system

and

> > > aspects in divisional charts.

> > >

> > > Best Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > > > Dear Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The divisional charts are the finer layers of the person's

> being.

> > > >

> > > > THere are five kosas of a human being according to

> Shankaracharya

> > > >

> > > > a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body)

> > > > b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body)

> > > > c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body)

> > > > d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body)

> > > > e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath)

> > > >

> > > > The higher divisional charts show the impressions formed and

> > > carried

> > > > due to the various past life karmas. These impressions if not

> > > > detected, would repeat again and again. A person divorcing

his

> > > wife

> > > > in past life may get the problem again, if he does not burn

> away

> > > the

> > > > past karma.

> > > >

> > > > All the rules applicable to Rasi chart are applicable to

> > > Divisional

> > > > charts.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter-moon yoga in a divisional chart is as valid as in

rasi

> > > chart.

> > > > When you see a person, you are actually seeing the gross

body.

> > You

> > > > are not looking at his aura, the four other bodies, the

subtle

> > > > impressions that he is carrying. Thus any yoga that is there

in

> > > > subtle bodies is bound to give its effects. I may not have

Gaja

> > > > Kesari yoga in present life time, infact i have a sakata

yoga.

> > But

> > > i

> > > > have Gaja kesari yoga in past life, whose rewards i am

reaping

> in

> > > > this life.

> > > > more later

> > > > regards

> > > > partha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Parthasarathy ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for lending your hand.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha

> > > > > division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting

starts

> > > from

> > > > > itself,while for others it starts from 5,9.

> > > > >

> > > > > In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional

> > > > > charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one

> > sees

> > > > > amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be

> > drawn

> > > as

> > > > > a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions.

> > > > >

> > > > > Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha

say

> in

> > > > Leo -

> > > > > they cannot be actually together,unless they are together

in

> > > > > Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a

> particular

> > > > > Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another

> Rashi.Thus

> > > > > though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse

> > this

> > > > > together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi -

 

> > > > > reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign

it

> > is

> > > > > there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should

be

> > > > > analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at

> Rashi

> > > > > level.

> > > > > Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any

> > > > > reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like

> > > > > Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the

> planets

> > > in

> > > > > the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its

> relation

> > > with

> > > > > the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts

> > > > > (nakshthras are automatically taken care).

> > > > >

> > > > > My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly

> help

> > > me

> > > > > with your knowledge.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> > > > > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis

> of

> > > > > > divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove

to

> be

> > > > some

> > > > > > help if you reframe your question.

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > partha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions

> within

> > a

> > > > > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into

9,10,24,60

> > > etc

> > > > > > starting

> > > > > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you

> > come

> > > > > across

> > > > > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with

> > > astrology.I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha

> > > Raoji.It

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may

not

> be

> > > > > needed

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could

> help

> > > us

> > > > > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional

> > > charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

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