Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Dear Pradeep What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis of divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to be some help if you reframe your question. regards partha > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc starting > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come across > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I have > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha Raoji.It is > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be needed as > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts. > > > > Thanks in advance > > Pradeep > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Dear Parthasarathy ji Thanks for lending your hand. I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting starts from itself,while for others it starts from 5,9. In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one sees amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be drawn as a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions. Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha say in Leo - they cannot be actually together,unless they are together in Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a particular Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another Rashi.Thus though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse this together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi - reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign it is there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should be analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at Rashi level. Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the planets in the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its relation with the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts (nakshthras are automatically taken care). My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly help me with your knowledge. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Dear Pradeep > > What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis of > divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to be some > help if you reframe your question. > regards > partha > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc > starting > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come across > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I have > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha Raoji.It is > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be needed > as > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > Pradeep > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Dear Pradeep The divisional charts are the finer layers of the person's being. THere are five kosas of a human being according to Shankaracharya a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body) b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body) c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body) d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body) e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath) The higher divisional charts show the impressions formed and carried due to the various past life karmas. These impressions if not detected, would repeat again and again. A person divorcing his wife in past life may get the problem again, if he does not burn away the past karma. All the rules applicable to Rasi chart are applicable to Divisional charts. Jupiter-moon yoga in a divisional chart is as valid as in rasi chart. When you see a person, you are actually seeing the gross body. You are not looking at his aura, the four other bodies, the subtle impressions that he is carrying. Thus any yoga that is there in subtle bodies is bound to give its effects. I may not have Gaja Kesari yoga in present life time, infact i have a sakata yoga. But i have Gaja kesari yoga in past life, whose rewards i am reaping in this life. more later regards partha vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Parthasarathy ji > > Thanks for lending your hand. > > I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha > division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting starts from > itself,while for others it starts from 5,9. > > In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional > charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one sees > amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be drawn as > a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions. > > Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha say in Leo - > they cannot be actually together,unless they are together in > Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a particular > Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another Rashi.Thus > though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse this > together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi - > reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign it is > there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should be > analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at Rashi > level. > Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any > reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like > Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the planets in > the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its relation with > the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts > (nakshthras are automatically taken care). > > My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly help me > with your knowledge. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu5> wrote: > > Dear Pradeep > > > > What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis of > > divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to be some > > help if you reframe your question. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc > > starting > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come > across > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with astrology.I > have > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha Raoji.It > is > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be > needed > > as > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help us > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional charts. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Pradeep > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Partha, Is this correct? a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body) - 1st harmonic (D-1 to D-12) b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body) - 2nd harmonic (D-12 to D-24) c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body) - 3rd harmonic (D-24 to D-36) d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body) - 4th harmonic (D-36 to D-48) e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath) - 5th and greater harmonics (> D-48) regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Dear Hari As per the available literature i can agree with you. But i am still doing research. IMHO the supra-causal plane or the Anandamaya Kosa starts at d-60 , the reason being Parasara's statement that D-60 can show everything. D-40, d-48 are still in realm of the present time. The genes or the karmas of maternal grandparents (d-40) and karmas of paternal grandparents(d-45) is not exactly the Bliss sheath. I have read in varga chakra or somewhere that the finer divisional charts between d- 48 and d-60 are not used but if research is done can be useful in finding the "karana sarira" of the soul. The soul in its spiritual journey carries the Karana sarira till it gets liberated. This karana sarira is discussed in many classics. SO whether d-48 to d-60 can show bliss sheath, or is it d-60 and higher vargas such as d-108, nadi (d-150) is a point of speculation. But i would go for d-60 and higher vargas as Bliss Sheath. Unless the knowledge of vedas and upanishads is not integrated with Jyotish shastra, we will always be discussing "when jupiter would transit leo" and "when will i get promotion etc" regards partha vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Partha, > > Is this correct? > > a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body) - 1st harmonic (D-1 to D-12) > b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body) - 2nd harmonic (D-12 to D-24) > c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body) - 3rd harmonic (D-24 to D-36) > d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body) - 4th harmonic (D-36 to > D-48) > e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath) - 5th and greater harmonics (> > D-48) > > > regards > Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 dear pradeep Few more points a) The divisions have to be understood in terms of nakshatra padas rather than rasis. b) All the moon, jupiter and ketu nakshatra padas would fall in aries, taurus, mithuna and karka navamsas. c) All the venus, saturn and mars nakshatra padas would fall in leo, kanya, thula and vrischika navamsas. d) All the sun, rahu and budha nakshatra padas would fall in sagi, capricorn, aquarius and pisces navamsas What could be the reason, is it because , ketu(governer of kundalini shakti and ashtottari dasa also), Jupiter, moon show the conception, birth and nurturing, what do saturn, venus and mars do, they give stability, marriage and power and action respectively What do SUn, rahu and mercury do, they help in realsing one's potential through learning.introspection that leads to knowledge of shiva. Ketu represents ganesh who worships on yellow square near mooladhara, moon represents the caring and jupiter the birth of sound, Yagna, the mantropadesa etc. Venus-mars-saturn rule the swadhisthana, manipura and the anahata chakra, thus the middle part of the life, or rather the incomplete journey Sun represents the sahasrara, rahu represents the point above the sahasrara or the ultravoilet, and mercury represents the return to innocence-mooladhara. There are 108 padas of 27 nakshatras, 27 nakshatras are distributed in such a fashion that each zodiac gets 9 nakshatra padas. 9-represents the total number of planets, it is a divine number and it has deep metaphysical and spiritual significance. So you can do more research and find out for other divisional charts. regards partha vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Dear Pradeep > > The way you are dividing the rasi chart is like cutting the bread > with knife, if i could have used a better analogy. > > Sarvartha chintamani, and to some extent Phala deepika i guess have > good information on divisional charts. Even saravali has some. > > You can explore those, but the available translations would again > talk about cutting of the bread. > > Logic cuts and discriminates, but the understanding does not come > from logic, logic is very useful in mathematics and science but not > in shastras. > > The basis of divisionals has to be understood first. What is the > deeper significance of divisions, is it just to divide the rasi chart > in various parts, put planets in different rasis??, what exactly is > the basis of divisions then. > > THere are four goals of a jeeva's life, Dharma , artha , kama , > moksha. > THis four fold path has to be understood. All the divisional charts > are founded on this basic template. > > I have explained in other mails about the physical planes, the > intelligence planes and the causal planes. All the planes are again > formed on the basis of a few parameters. > > d-16 is the chart of luxuries and sukha, now what is the basis of d- > 16. If you divide 16/12 rasis, you get a remainder of 4. Thus 4th > house is the basis of shodasamsa. > For d-24, 12th house is the basis, and for vimsamsa(d-20) 8th house > is the basis. > > 4th house, 8th and 12th house are the foundations for moksha, they > are the moksha sthanas. > > 3.2 degrees is a mathematical output of the division that we perform > on a rasi by 9. Now why 9?, 9 shows our guru, our tradition, the > parampara, the higher guidance, it also shows the fortune. So > Divisional charts at physical planes such as navamsa show fortune and > talents that are easily manfiested. But when you go to Nakshatramsa (d- > 27) whose basis is also 9, you are not talking about talents alone, > you are also talking about the finer psychological aspects of > strenghts and weaknesses of a person, his motivations, and his > depressions etc. > > more later > regards > partha > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear Partha ji > > > > Thanks for igniting the thought process and guiding it through new > > channels, as you always do:) > > The statement regarding indications in the Rashi and the necessity > > of its realization to avoid re occurences were also good. > > I will search for the various Koshas mentioned.I can also relate or > > coform with your logic.Because the more you divide the finer you > > discover.And hence divisional charts shows finer elements. > > > > But i am not fully satisfied with the second part. > > > > My questions were seeking some explanation plus references from the > > classics.(House concepts in divisional charts and aspects). > > > > Let us assume we are constructing a navamsha chart. > > We have Rashi in hand.We also have a chart template with no entries > > for making navamsha. > > Let us go to Lagna in Rashi ,assume it is Sag.We divide Sag into > nine > > (starting with Aries,as fifth from Sag is Aries).If the degree of > > lagna is 11 in Rashi, then lagna falls in the fourth navamsha > > division - Cancer,. > > We go to our template chart and mark - ASC in Cancer. > > Similarly we go to second house in Rashi - We divide it into nine > > and since Capricorn is a movable Rashi, navamsha starts from > > Capricorn itself.If moon was placed at 2 degrees in Rashi,then moon > > falls in the first (3.2 degree)division of Navamsha ie Capricorn > > itself.We go to our template chart and mark MO in Capricorn.But now > > the house in which moon is placed becomes '7' (as Capricorn is > > seventh from Cancer).Similarly another planet which was at 29 > > degrees in 2nd house goes to 3rd house in Virgo.Thus what we have > > done is, just the scattering of planets in a template chart for the > > easiness of understanding its finer placements.Only logical thing > > what we have done is dividing each rashi into 9 and finding the > > exact nava amsha placement of that planet.But i am unable to find > > the logic behind following house system similar to Rashi.(I found > > from cup of magic site the logic behind finding the first navamsha > > in each sign) > > > > Hence my request to help me in finding a reference regarding this > in > > Classics.Similarly aspects are due to the angular placements of > > planets.Even if we divide a rashi into 100 divisions the planets > > position remains the same.Only thing what we are discovering new is > > the finer details of its position(environment).For example when > > looking from a higher level in human body we can say hand has got > > nails.But when we divide or go closer we can say the nails are part > > of the palm and further division says it is part of fingers.Thus we > > are identifying the finer rashi properties within a Rashi (assuming > > every rashi consists of tattwas of other rashis(Shiv Chadda jis > > mail) and also related to nakshatra charana (Chandrashekhar jis > > mail).But the position of the concerned planet w.r to other planets > > remains the same irrespective of any number of divisions.Hence the > > aspects has to remain the same as in Rashi.What do you think? > > Otherwise we have to find a new logic behind this aspect. > > > > Kindly think over this and try to help me.If possible i will be > > happy if you could give some reference regarding house system and > > aspects in divisional charts. > > > > Best Regds > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > <partvinu5> wrote: > > > Dear Pradeep > > > > > > > > > The divisional charts are the finer layers of the person's being. > > > > > > THere are five kosas of a human being according to Shankaracharya > > > > > > a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body) > > > b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body) > > > c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body) > > > d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body) > > > e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath) > > > > > > The higher divisional charts show the impressions formed and > > carried > > > due to the various past life karmas. These impressions if not > > > detected, would repeat again and again. A person divorcing his > > wife > > > in past life may get the problem again, if he does not burn away > > the > > > past karma. > > > > > > All the rules applicable to Rasi chart are applicable to > > Divisional > > > charts. > > > > > > Jupiter-moon yoga in a divisional chart is as valid as in rasi > > chart. > > > When you see a person, you are actually seeing the gross body. > You > > > are not looking at his aura, the four other bodies, the subtle > > > impressions that he is carrying. Thus any yoga that is there in > > > subtle bodies is bound to give its effects. I may not have Gaja > > > Kesari yoga in present life time, infact i have a sakata yoga. > But > > i > > > have Gaja kesari yoga in past life, whose rewards i am reaping in > > > this life. > > > more later > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > Dear Parthasarathy ji > > > > > > > > Thanks for lending your hand. > > > > > > > > I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha > > > > division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting starts > > from > > > > itself,while for others it starts from 5,9. > > > > > > > > In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional > > > > charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one > sees > > > > amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be > drawn > > as > > > > a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions. > > > > > > > > Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha say in > > > Leo - > > > > they cannot be actually together,unless they are together in > > > > Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a particular > > > > Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another Rashi.Thus > > > > though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse > this > > > > together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi - > > > > reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign it > is > > > > there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should be > > > > analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at Rashi > > > > level. > > > > Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any > > > > reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like > > > > Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the planets > > in > > > > the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its relation > > with > > > > the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts > > > > (nakshthras are automatically taken care). > > > > > > > > My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly help > > me > > > > with your knowledge. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > > Dear Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis of > > > > > divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to be > > > some > > > > > help if you reframe your question. > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within > a > > > > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 > > etc > > > > > starting > > > > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you > come > > > > across > > > > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with > > astrology.I > > > > have > > > > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha > > Raoji.It > > > > is > > > > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be > > > > needed > > > > > as > > > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help > > us > > > > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional > > charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Dear Partha ji Thanks a lot for the useful hints. Chandrashekhar ji had also mentioned about nakshathra charana lords.I was trying to find a relation but i couldn't as it was not easy - think i have to dig a lot to understand the relation between nakshathra padas within a rashi and relation between their lords and Rashi lords vis-a-vis divisional charts. I will study your mail carefully and will reply later. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > dear pradeep > > Few more points > > a) The divisions have to be understood in terms of nakshatra padas > rather than rasis. > b) All the moon, jupiter and ketu nakshatra padas would fall in > aries, taurus, mithuna and karka navamsas. > c) All the venus, saturn and mars nakshatra padas would fall in leo, > kanya, thula and vrischika navamsas. > d) All the sun, rahu and budha nakshatra padas would fall in sagi, > capricorn, aquarius and pisces navamsas > > What could be the reason, is it because , ketu(governer of kundalini > shakti and ashtottari dasa also), Jupiter, moon show the conception, > birth and nurturing, > what do saturn, venus and mars do, they give stability, marriage and > power and action respectively > What do SUn, rahu and mercury do, they help in realsing one's > potential through learning.introspection that leads to knowledge of > shiva. > > Ketu represents ganesh who worships on yellow square near mooladhara, > moon represents the caring and jupiter the birth of sound, Yagna, the > mantropadesa etc. > > Venus-mars-saturn rule the swadhisthana, manipura and the anahata > chakra, thus the middle part of the life, or rather the incomplete > journey > > Sun represents the sahasrara, rahu represents the point above the > sahasrara or the ultravoilet, and mercury represents the return to > innocence-mooladhara. > > There are 108 padas of 27 nakshatras, 27 nakshatras are distributed > in such a fashion that each zodiac gets 9 nakshatra padas. > 9-represents the total number of planets, it is a divine number and > it has deep metaphysical and spiritual significance. So you can do > more research and find out for other divisional charts. > regards > partha > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu5> wrote: > > Dear Pradeep > > > > The way you are dividing the rasi chart is like cutting the bread > > with knife, if i could have used a better analogy. > > > > Sarvartha chintamani, and to some extent Phala deepika i guess have > > good information on divisional charts. Even saravali has some. > > > > You can explore those, but the available translations would again > > talk about cutting of the bread. > > > > Logic cuts and discriminates, but the understanding does not come > > from logic, logic is very useful in mathematics and science but not > > in shastras. > > > > The basis of divisionals has to be understood first. What is the > > deeper significance of divisions, is it just to divide the rasi > chart > > in various parts, put planets in different rasis??, what exactly is > > the basis of divisions then. > > > > THere are four goals of a jeeva's life, Dharma , artha , kama , > > moksha. > > THis four fold path has to be understood. All the divisional charts > > are founded on this basic template. > > > > I have explained in other mails about the physical planes, the > > intelligence planes and the causal planes. All the planes are again > > formed on the basis of a few parameters. > > > > d-16 is the chart of luxuries and sukha, now what is the basis of d- > > 16. If you divide 16/12 rasis, you get a remainder of 4. Thus 4th > > house is the basis of shodasamsa. > > For d-24, 12th house is the basis, and for vimsamsa(d-20) 8th house > > is the basis. > > > > 4th house, 8th and 12th house are the foundations for moksha, they > > are the moksha sthanas. > > > > 3.2 degrees is a mathematical output of the division that we > perform > > on a rasi by 9. Now why 9?, 9 shows our guru, our tradition, the > > parampara, the higher guidance, it also shows the fortune. So > > Divisional charts at physical planes such as navamsa show fortune > and > > talents that are easily manfiested. But when you go to Nakshatramsa > (d- > > 27) whose basis is also 9, you are not talking about talents alone, > > you are also talking about the finer psychological aspects of > > strenghts and weaknesses of a person, his motivations, and his > > depressions etc. > > > > more later > > regards > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > Dear Partha ji > > > > > > Thanks for igniting the thought process and guiding it through > new > > > channels, as you always do:) > > > The statement regarding indications in the Rashi and the > necessity > > > of its realization to avoid re occurences were also good. > > > I will search for the various Koshas mentioned.I can also relate > or > > > coform with your logic.Because the more you divide the finer you > > > discover.And hence divisional charts shows finer elements. > > > > > > But i am not fully satisfied with the second part. > > > > > > My questions were seeking some explanation plus references from > the > > > classics.(House concepts in divisional charts and aspects). > > > > > > Let us assume we are constructing a navamsha chart. > > > We have Rashi in hand.We also have a chart template with no > entries > > > for making navamsha. > > > Let us go to Lagna in Rashi ,assume it is Sag.We divide Sag into > > nine > > > (starting with Aries,as fifth from Sag is Aries).If the degree of > > > lagna is 11 in Rashi, then lagna falls in the fourth navamsha > > > division - Cancer,. > > > We go to our template chart and mark - ASC in Cancer. > > > Similarly we go to second house in Rashi - We divide it into nine > > > and since Capricorn is a movable Rashi, navamsha starts from > > > Capricorn itself.If moon was placed at 2 degrees in Rashi,then > moon > > > falls in the first (3.2 degree)division of Navamsha ie Capricorn > > > itself.We go to our template chart and mark MO in Capricorn.But > now > > > the house in which moon is placed becomes '7' (as Capricorn is > > > seventh from Cancer).Similarly another planet which was at 29 > > > degrees in 2nd house goes to 3rd house in Virgo.Thus what we have > > > done is, just the scattering of planets in a template chart for > the > > > easiness of understanding its finer placements.Only logical thing > > > what we have done is dividing each rashi into 9 and finding the > > > exact nava amsha placement of that planet.But i am unable to find > > > the logic behind following house system similar to Rashi.(I found > > > from cup of magic site the logic behind finding the first > navamsha > > > in each sign) > > > > > > Hence my request to help me in finding a reference regarding this > > in > > > Classics.Similarly aspects are due to the angular placements of > > > planets.Even if we divide a rashi into 100 divisions the planets > > > position remains the same.Only thing what we are discovering new > is > > > the finer details of its position(environment).For example when > > > looking from a higher level in human body we can say hand has got > > > nails.But when we divide or go closer we can say the nails are > part > > > of the palm and further division says it is part of fingers.Thus > we > > > are identifying the finer rashi properties within a Rashi > (assuming > > > every rashi consists of tattwas of other rashis(Shiv Chadda jis > > > mail) and also related to nakshatra charana (Chandrashekhar jis > > > mail).But the position of the concerned planet w.r to other > planets > > > remains the same irrespective of any number of divisions.Hence > the > > > aspects has to remain the same as in Rashi.What do you think? > > > Otherwise we have to find a new logic behind this aspect. > > > > > > Kindly think over this and try to help me.If possible i will be > > > happy if you could give some reference regarding house system and > > > aspects in divisional charts. > > > > > > Best Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > Dear Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > The divisional charts are the finer layers of the person's > being. > > > > > > > > THere are five kosas of a human being according to > Shankaracharya > > > > > > > > a) Annamaya Kosa(gross body) > > > > b) Pranamaya Kosa(vital body) > > > > c) Manomaya Kosa(mental body) > > > > d) Vignanamaya Kosa(the intelligence body) > > > > e) Anandamaya Kosa(the bliss sheath) > > > > > > > > The higher divisional charts show the impressions formed and > > > carried > > > > due to the various past life karmas. These impressions if not > > > > detected, would repeat again and again. A person divorcing his > > > wife > > > > in past life may get the problem again, if he does not burn > away > > > the > > > > past karma. > > > > > > > > All the rules applicable to Rasi chart are applicable to > > > Divisional > > > > charts. > > > > > > > > Jupiter-moon yoga in a divisional chart is as valid as in rasi > > > chart. > > > > When you see a person, you are actually seeing the gross body. > > You > > > > are not looking at his aura, the four other bodies, the subtle > > > > impressions that he is carrying. Thus any yoga that is there in > > > > subtle bodies is bound to give its effects. I may not have Gaja > > > > Kesari yoga in present life time, infact i have a sakata yoga. > > But > > > i > > > > have Gaja kesari yoga in past life, whose rewards i am reaping > in > > > > this life. > > > > more later > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > > > > Dear Parthasarathy ji > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for lending your hand. > > > > > > > > > > I would be happy if you can tell me the basis for navamsha > > > > > division.Because in some Rashis the navamsha counting starts > > > from > > > > > itself,while for others it starts from 5,9. > > > > > > > > > > In classics is there any mention of aspects in divisional > > > > > charts.Because with my understanding so far - i feel if one > > sees > > > > > amshas as a total chart - it could be misleading.It can be > > drawn > > > as > > > > > a chart, for easier demonstration of planetary positions. > > > > > > > > > > Because if you see Jupiter and Mars together in Navamsha say > in > > > > Leo - > > > > > they cannot be actually together,unless they are together in > > > > > Rashi.But it says Jupiter is in navamsha of Leo of a > particular > > > > > Rashi and Mars is in the Navamsha of Leo of another > Rashi.Thus > > > > > though these are together in Navamsha,We should not analyse > > this > > > > > together.My understanding is See where is Jupiter in Rashi - > > > > > reconfirm its strength in Navamsha by seeing in which sign it > > is > > > > > there.Similarly for Mars repeat the procedure.These should be > > > > > analysed individually.Integrated analysis must be done at > Rashi > > > > > level. > > > > > Similarly house system in Divisional charts - is there any > > > > > reference in classics.Because any amsha occurences like > > > > > Gopura,Simhasana etc verifies just the occurence of the > planets > > > in > > > > > the same rashi.Thus my view is, only the sign and its > relation > > > with > > > > > the concerned planet has significance in divisional charts > > > > > (nakshthras are automatically taken care). > > > > > > > > > > My views could wrong ,but i am not convinced ,thus kindly > help > > > me > > > > > with your knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > > > > > <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > What exactly is your doubt, do you want to know the basis > of > > > > > > divisions, divisional charts, or what else? I can prove to > be > > > > some > > > > > > help if you reframe your question. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions > within > > a > > > > > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 > > > etc > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you > > come > > > > > across > > > > > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with > > > astrology.I > > > > > have > > > > > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha > > > Raoji.It > > > > > is > > > > > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not > be > > > > > needed > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could > help > > > us > > > > > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional > > > charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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