Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Dear Peter, SO TRUE! Regards /Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com - Peter Richard vedic astrology Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:01 PM [vedic astrology] Regression WARNING! Dear Friends, With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound a note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain cases it can be positively harmful. In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with a hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental aberrations. Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not immediately discernable. A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should be sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether it is appropriate to proceed with the regression. A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and will generate more problems than are solved. So in cases where there is doubt - don't! Many blessings, Peter Richard Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Hi Richard, I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may actually be scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses to be a monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of such things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures one should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us the way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to choose good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts for both one's own and others' welfare. vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" <kairos@h...> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound a note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain cases it can be positively harmful. > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with a hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental aberrations. Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not immediately discernable. > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should be sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether it is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and will generate more problems than are solved. > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > Many blessings, > Peter Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Anna"J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Peter, SO TRUE! Regards /Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com - Peter Richard vedic astrology Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:01 PM [vedic astrology] Regression WARNING! Dear Friends, With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound a note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain cases it can be positively harmful. In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with a hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental aberrations. Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not immediately discernable. A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should be sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether it is appropriate to proceed with the regression. A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and will generate more problems than are solved. So in cases where there is doubt - don't! Many blessings, Peter Richard Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how that works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that there is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition have vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who experiences them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, but that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how reality looked like after that. I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I know some people tolerate that better. In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we all see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to say than I do. Best wishes, AnnaJayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Richard,I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may actually be scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses to be a monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of such things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures one should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us the way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to choose good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts for both one's own and others' welfare.--- In vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" <kairos@h...> wrote:> Dear Friends,> > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound a note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain cases it can be positively harmful.> > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with a hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental aberrations. Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not immediately discernable.> > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should be sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether it is appropriate to proceed with the regression.> > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and will generate more problems than are solved.> > So in cases where there is doubt - don't!> > Many blessings,> Peter RichardArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the individual concerned. THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without knowing" reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". I would like to point out though that i did experience some positive energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. I can understand people much better due to the same. It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes and murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul of the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced with his explanation. Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of time, because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, and how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". The soul has a body and a mind. But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't that silly, love partha vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > Dear Jayashree, Peter, > > I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how that works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that there is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition have vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who experiences them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, but that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how reality looked like after that. > > I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I know some people tolerate that better. > In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we all see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. > And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. > I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to say than I do. > Best wishes, > Anna > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good > minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the > goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. > Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may actually be > scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform > his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses to be a > monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of such > things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures one > should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic > intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us the > way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, > sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to choose > good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts for > both one's own and others' welfare. > > vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" <kairos@h...> > wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound a > note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain > cases it can be positively harmful. > > > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with a > hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal > of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be > suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental aberrations. > Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not > immediately discernable. > > > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should be > sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners > have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether it > is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and will > generate more problems than are solved. > > > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > > > Many blessings, > > Peter Richard > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Dear Partha, First of all thank you for sharing your very interesting experience. I am not sure how you can be sure that the 'visions' you saw were not mere imaginations of your mind while you are in a state of trance. You said you were convinced by the hypnotist that what you 'saw' were not imaginations by actual images of past lives. Can you please elaborate on that. Also, I dont fully understand the soul of the person killed trying to interfere in your regression. Thanks, Siva. vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > individual concerned. > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without knowing" > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some positive > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. I > can understand people much better due to the same. > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes and > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul of > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced with > his explanation. > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of time, > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, and > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > The soul has a body and a mind. > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > that silly, > love > partha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Dear Siva After the first session, i had a big doubt if it was an imagination, and i was quite frank about it with the hynotist. But since i have been doing meditation, and understand "visions", through later introspection, i understood few things. First of all the things that i saw were never seen in any place, time in the current life. Most of the images that i saw were beyond the mind. I will explain. Mind can imagine only those things of which it has a "knowledge" or a pre-sight. This was what Jay was talking about, a reference point. I did not have reference point. I would not like to name the astrologer, but a senior astrologer in our group did a D-60 Reading, and told some things after seeing my d- 60 chart. 99% of those things were not seen. Except for the fact that i was murdered. When the reference point lies in another time and space, it becomes a vision, otherwise it is an imagination. Nostradamus and Aurbindo had visions, and they were not imaginations. Imagination is of lower mind, and vision is of higher mind. If you have read Aurobindo's philosohpy you would understand the same. Now coming to interference. THis is a common phenomenon, and basically it is a secret regarding the "hearings" and interferences. Many people are haunted by spirits, due to their past karma. During regression it is quite possible that these spirits may interfere, because probably they were captured by the person in "some other time". Thus the regression expert needs to know how "to talk" with them and ward them off. All this is psychic and scary. I very well knew the complications and implications before going the regression. But i took a big risk, because i felt that the time has come! love partha vedic astrology, "schinnas" <schinnas> wrote: > Dear Partha, > First of all thank you for sharing your very interesting experience. I am > not sure how you can be sure that the 'visions' you saw were not mere > imaginations of your mind while you are in a state of trance. > > You said you were convinced by the hypnotist that what you 'saw' were not > imaginations by actual images of past lives. Can you please elaborate on > that. > > Also, I dont fully understand the soul of the person killed trying to > interfere in your regression. > > Thanks, > Siva. > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > wrote: > > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > > individual concerned. > > > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without knowing" > > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some positive > > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. I > > can understand people much better due to the same. > > > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes and > > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul of > > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced with > > his explanation. > > > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of time, > > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, and > > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > > > The soul has a body and a mind. > > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > > that silly, > > love > > partha > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Dear Partha, You wrote: "The soul has a body and a mind. But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't that silly." Very good thinking! Try to stop a second and think of this equation: SOUL = I As such, mind and ego are a part of the soul. Body is only a (limiting) vehicle for the soul. Consequently, perception of the above in reality has always been a problem for man kind who thinks of soul as anything else but what it really is. Just look at all the theoretical attributes given to 'soul' by different "other souls" (i.e. humans) throughout the years. /Jay Weiss http://www.alvicomm.com - "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:03 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > individual concerned. > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without knowing" > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some positive > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. I > can understand people much better due to the same. > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes and > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul of > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced with > his explanation. > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of time, > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, and > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > The soul has a body and a mind. > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > that silly, > love > partha > > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > > Dear Jayashree, Peter, > > > > I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how that > works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that there > is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition have > vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who experiences > them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, but > that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the > hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how reality > looked like after that. > > > > I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I know > some people tolerate that better. > > In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we all > see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. > > And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. > > I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to say > than I do. > > Best wishes, > > Anna > > > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > > > I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good > > minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the > > goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. > > Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may actually > be > > scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform > > his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses to be > a > > monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of > such > > things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures > one > > should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic > > intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us the > > way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, > > sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to choose > > good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts for > > both one's own and others' welfare. > > > > vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" > <kairos@h...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound > a > > note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain > > cases it can be positively harmful. > > > > > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with > a > > hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal > > of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be > > suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental > aberrations. > > Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not > > immediately discernable. > > > > > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should > be > > sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners > > have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether > it > > is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > > > > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and > will > > generate more problems than are solved. > > > > > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > > > > > Many blessings, > > > Peter Richard > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Dear Jay Soul is not I in the sense that this I is a Partha, and this I is a Jay. Soul can never be a person, soul is the divine spark, that dependent entity which takes into different bodies, for its different designs and experiences. Refer Gita, where Krishna says, "I am the Doer, and I am the DID", "Dont panic partha, as you are not the doer". The happiness or remorse arising out of our actions is due to this identification, that "I" have done so and so. But one who knows that he is an instrument of the divine will, will never be touched by pleasure or pain. regards partha vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > You wrote: "The soul has a body and a mind. But we think, > that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't that silly." > > Very good thinking! > Try to stop a second and think of this equation: > > SOUL = I > > As such, mind and ego are a part of the soul. Body is only a (limiting) > vehicle for the soul. > > Consequently, perception of the above in reality has always been a problem > for man kind who thinks of soul as anything else but what it really is. > Just look at all the theoretical attributes given to 'soul' by different > "other souls" (i.e. humans) throughout the years. > > /Jay Weiss > http://www.alvicomm.com > > > > - > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:03 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > > > > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > > individual concerned. > > > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without knowing" > > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some positive > > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. I > > can understand people much better due to the same. > > > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes and > > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul of > > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced with > > his explanation. > > > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of time, > > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, and > > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > > > The soul has a body and a mind. > > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > > that silly, > > love > > partha > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > > > Dear Jayashree, Peter, > > > > > > I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how that > > works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that there > > is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition have > > vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who experiences > > them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, but > > that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the > > hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how reality > > looked like after that. > > > > > > I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I know > > some people tolerate that better. > > > In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we all > > see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. > > > And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. > > > I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to say > > than I do. > > > Best wishes, > > > Anna > > > > > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good > > > minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the > > > goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. > > > Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may actually > > be > > > scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform > > > his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses to be > > a > > > monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of > > such > > > things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures > > one > > > should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic > > > intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us the > > > way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, > > > sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to choose > > > good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts for > > > both one's own and others' welfare. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" > > <kairos@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound > > a > > > note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain > > > cases it can be positively harmful. > > > > > > > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with > > a > > > hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal > > > of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be > > > suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental > > aberrations. > > > Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not > > > immediately discernable. > > > > > > > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should > > be > > > sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners > > > have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether > > it > > > is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > > > > > > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and > > will > > > generate more problems than are solved. > > > > > > > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > > > > > > > Many blessings, > > > > Peter Richard > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Dear Partha, Look at what you wrote and you'll see that now-living Partha or Jay (or anyone else) is a part of 'soul' which IS the sum total of many other ENTITIES like today's Partha and Jay. It seems that at the bottom line we share the same thinking here. /Jay Weiss http://www.alvicomm.com - "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5 <vedic astrology> Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:51 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > Dear Jay > > Soul is not I in the sense that this I is a Partha, and this I is a > Jay. Soul can never be a person, soul is the divine spark, that > dependent entity which takes into different bodies, for its different > designs and experiences. > > Refer Gita, where Krishna says, "I am the Doer, and I am the > DID", "Dont panic partha, as you are not the doer". > > The happiness or remorse arising out of our actions is due to this > identification, that "I" have done so and so. But one who knows that > he is an instrument of the divine will, will never be touched by > pleasure or pain. > regards > partha > > > vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > > Dear Partha, > > > > You wrote: "The soul has a body and a mind. But we think, > > that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't that silly." > > > > Very good thinking! > > Try to stop a second and think of this equation: > > > > SOUL = I > > > > As such, mind and ego are a part of the soul. Body is only a > (limiting) > > vehicle for the soul. > > > > Consequently, perception of the above in reality has always been a > problem > > for man kind who thinks of soul as anything else but what it really > is. > > Just look at all the theoretical attributes given to 'soul' by > different > > "other souls" (i.e. humans) throughout the years. > > > > /Jay Weiss > > http://www.alvicomm.com > > > > > > > > - > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > > <vedic astrology> > > Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:03 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > > > > > > > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > > > > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > > > individual concerned. > > > > > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without > knowing" > > > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > > > > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some > positive > > > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > > > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. > I > > > can understand people much better due to the same. > > > > > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes > and > > > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul > of > > > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > > > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > > > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > > > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > > > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced > with > > > his explanation. > > > > > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > > > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of > time, > > > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, > and > > > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > > > > > The soul has a body and a mind. > > > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > > > that silly, > > > love > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> > wrote: > > > > Dear Jayashree, Peter, > > > > > > > > I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how > that > > > works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that > there > > > is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition > have > > > vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who > experiences > > > them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, > but > > > that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the > > > hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how > reality > > > looked like after that. > > > > > > > > I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I > know > > > some people tolerate that better. > > > > In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we > all > > > see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. > > > > And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. > > > > I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to > say > > > than I do. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good > > > > minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the > > > > goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. > > > > Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may > actually > > > be > > > > scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform > > > > his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses > to be > > > a > > > > monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of > > > such > > > > things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures > > > one > > > > should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic > > > > intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us > the > > > > way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, > > > > sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to > choose > > > > good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts > for > > > > both one's own and others' welfare. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" > > > <kairos@h...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to > sound > > > a > > > > note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in > certain > > > > cases it can be positively harmful. > > > > > > > > > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living > with > > > a > > > > hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great > deal > > > > of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be > > > > suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental > > > aberrations. > > > > Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not > > > > immediately discernable. > > > > > > > > > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi > should > > > be > > > > sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such > practitioners > > > > have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain > whether > > > it > > > > is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > > > > > > > > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and > > > will > > > > generate more problems than are solved. > > > > > > > > > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > > > > > > > > > Many blessings, > > > > > Peter Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > Look at what you wrote and you'll see that now-living Partha or Jay (or > anyone else) is a part of 'soul' which IS the sum total of many other > ENTITIES like today's Partha and Jay. > > It seems that at the bottom line we share the same thinking here. > > /Jay Weiss > http://www.alvicomm.com > > - > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:51 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > > > > Dear Jay > > > > Soul is not I in the sense that this I is a Partha, and this I is a > > Jay. Soul can never be a person, soul is the divine spark, that > > dependent entity which takes into different bodies, for its different > > designs and experiences. > > > > Refer Gita, where Krishna says, "I am the Doer, and I am the > > DID", "Dont panic partha, as you are not the doer". > > > > The happiness or remorse arising out of our actions is due to this > > identification, that "I" have done so and so. But one who knows that > > he is an instrument of the divine will, will never be touched by > > pleasure or pain. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > You wrote: "The soul has a body and a mind. But we think, > > > that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't that silly." > > > > > > Very good thinking! > > > Try to stop a second and think of this equation: > > > > > > SOUL = I > > > > > > As such, mind and ego are a part of the soul. Body is only a > > (limiting) > > > vehicle for the soul. > > > > > > Consequently, perception of the above in reality has always been a > > problem > > > for man kind who thinks of soul as anything else but what it really > > is. > > > Just look at all the theoretical attributes given to 'soul' by > > different > > > "other souls" (i.e. humans) throughout the years. > > > > > > /Jay Weiss > > > http://www.alvicomm.com > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:03 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > > > > > > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > > > > individual concerned. > > > > > > > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without > > knowing" > > > > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > > > > > > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some > > positive > > > > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > > > > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. > > I > > > > can understand people much better due to the same. > > > > > > > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes > > and > > > > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul > > of > > > > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > > > > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > > > > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > > > > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > > > > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced > > with > > > > his explanation. > > > > > > > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > > > > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of > > time, > > > > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, > > and > > > > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > > > > > > > The soul has a body and a mind. > > > > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > > > > that silly, > > > > love > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Jayashree, Peter, > > > > > > > > > > I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how > > that > > > > works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that > > there > > > > is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition > > have > > > > vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who > > experiences > > > > them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, > > but > > > > that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the > > > > hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how > > reality > > > > looked like after that. > > > > > > > > > > I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I > > know > > > > some people tolerate that better. > > > > > In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we > > all > > > > see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. > > > > > And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. > > > > > I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to > > say > > > > than I do. > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good > > > > > minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the > > > > > goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. > > > > > Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may > > actually > > > > be > > > > > scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform > > > > > his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses > > to be > > > > a > > > > > monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of > > > > such > > > > > things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures > > > > one > > > > > should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic > > > > > intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us > > the > > > > > way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, > > > > > sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to > > choose > > > > > good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts > > for > > > > > both one's own and others' welfare. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" > > > > <kairos@h...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to > > sound > > > > a > > > > > note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in > > certain > > > > > cases it can be positively harmful. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living > > with > > > > a > > > > > hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great > > deal > > > > > of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be > > > > > suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental > > > > aberrations. > > > > > Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not > > > > > immediately discernable. > > > > > > > > > > > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi > > should > > > > be > > > > > sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such > > practitioners > > > > > have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain > > whether > > > > it > > > > > is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > > > > > > > > > > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and > > > > will > > > > > generate more problems than are solved. > > > > > > > > > > > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > > > > > > > > > > > Many blessings, > > > > > > Peter Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Dear Jay You are correct, We are all the part of "Cosmic Consciousness". If this were not true, then there would be not be any mind readers, astrologers and psychics. At the bottom of the heart, at the atomic level, we are all the same. Driven by the same force. Krishna is a state of continuous flow of thought. He can create a war just by blinking an eye lid. But why is it that we see everything as "different". The reason is Maya, Maya sepeates the divine light, into the most beautiful structures, sub structures and super structures. This makes everything different and divergent. Infact, when we remove the bodies that is Jay, Partha, computer, the teachers, the places, etc then we see Space. The space connects everything. That is the reason why Jupiter is Space, the Akasha tatwa. love partha vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > Look at what you wrote and you'll see that now-living Partha or Jay (or > anyone else) is a part of 'soul' which IS the sum total of many other > ENTITIES like today's Partha and Jay. > > It seems that at the bottom line we share the same thinking here. > > /Jay Weiss > http://www.alvicomm.com > > - > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:51 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > > > > Dear Jay > > > > Soul is not I in the sense that this I is a Partha, and this I is a > > Jay. Soul can never be a person, soul is the divine spark, that > > dependent entity which takes into different bodies, for its different > > designs and experiences. > > > > Refer Gita, where Krishna says, "I am the Doer, and I am the > > DID", "Dont panic partha, as you are not the doer". > > > > The happiness or remorse arising out of our actions is due to this > > identification, that "I" have done so and so. But one who knows that > > he is an instrument of the divine will, will never be touched by > > pleasure or pain. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "J. Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > You wrote: "The soul has a body and a mind. But we think, > > > that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't that silly." > > > > > > Very good thinking! > > > Try to stop a second and think of this equation: > > > > > > SOUL = I > > > > > > As such, mind and ego are a part of the soul. Body is only a > > (limiting) > > > vehicle for the soul. > > > > > > Consequently, perception of the above in reality has always been a > > problem > > > for man kind who thinks of soul as anything else but what it really > > is. > > > Just look at all the theoretical attributes given to 'soul' by > > different > > > "other souls" (i.e. humans) throughout the years. > > > > > > /Jay Weiss > > > http://www.alvicomm.com > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:03 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Regression WARNING! > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > > > > > > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > > > > individual concerned. > > > > > > > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without > > knowing" > > > > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > > > > > > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some > > positive > > > > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > > > > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. > > I > > > > can understand people much better due to the same. > > > > > > > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes > > and > > > > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul > > of > > > > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > > > > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > > > > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > > > > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > > > > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced > > with > > > > his explanation. > > > > > > > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > > > > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of > > time, > > > > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, > > and > > > > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > > > > > > > The soul has a body and a mind. > > > > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > > > > that silly, > > > > love > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Jayashree, Peter, > > > > > > > > > > I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how > > that > > > > works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that > > there > > > > is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition > > have > > > > vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who > > experiences > > > > them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, > > but > > > > that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the > > > > hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how > > reality > > > > looked like after that. > > > > > > > > > > I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I > > know > > > > some people tolerate that better. > > > > > In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we > > all > > > > see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. > > > > > And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. > > > > > I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to > > say > > > > than I do. > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > > > > > I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good > > > > > minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the > > > > > goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. > > > > > Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may > > actually > > > > be > > > > > scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform > > > > > his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses > > to be > > > > a > > > > > monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of > > > > such > > > > > things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures > > > > one > > > > > should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic > > > > > intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us > > the > > > > > way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, > > > > > sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to > > choose > > > > > good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts > > for > > > > > both one's own and others' welfare. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" > > > > <kairos@h...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to > > sound > > > > a > > > > > note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in > > certain > > > > > cases it can be positively harmful. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living > > with > > > > a > > > > > hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great > > deal > > > > > of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be > > > > > suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental > > > > aberrations. > > > > > Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not > > > > > immediately discernable. > > > > > > > > > > > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi > > should > > > > be > > > > > sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such > > practitioners > > > > > have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain > > whether > > > > it > > > > > is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > > > > > > > > > > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and > > > > will > > > > > generate more problems than are solved. > > > > > > > > > > > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > > > > > > > > > > > Many blessings, > > > > > > Peter Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Dear Partha, It was very good to hear something different in the paranormal arena. Thanks for the same. Doesn't each of us have the freedom to choose any method for spirituality, regression or anything else, so long as what we do doesn't harm anyone else, including ourselves? But the question here is whether regression will be suited to everyone, ie whether it has the potential to leave a person confused and dazed regarding his/her identity, purpose in life, etc - question left to individual choice. BTW, is there a progression analysis, atleast astrologically? Ie, like D-60 varga for past birth, is there a varga that could be of use for predicting future birth or atleast the direction of the soul? If 5th house indicates one's past good deeds, and 9th house indicates one's future good deeds, then shouldn't Navamsa be an indicator of the future direction of the soul? Regards, Jayashree vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Dear Anna, Peter and Jayashree > > To some extent Peter is right, but then it is the free will of the > individual concerned. > > THere are many people who seem to suffer endlessly "without knowing" > reasons, the reasons can be found through "regression". > > I would like to point out though that i did experience some positive > energy after regression. People seemed much closer!!, and the > invisible layer that separated me from the people had diminished. I > can understand people much better due to the same. > > It is quite possible that a person might have done lot of crimes and > murders. Now it is also possible that during regression, the soul of > the person murdered may interfere and stop the regression. Thus it > depends on the regression expert's capability to ward off the evil > forces. I had discussed all these in detail with the hynotist. > Induced halluciantions, imagainations were my doubts, but then he > clarified in detail about the entire science, and i am convinced with > his explanation. > > Using "scientific instruments" to measure paranormal events is > futile. Using standards to understand brain is sheer waste of time, > because all the instruments are "material, and "gross" in nature, and > how can you use gross instruments to measure the "subtle". > > The soul has a body and a mind. > But we think, that the body has a mind, and harbors a soul, isn't > that silly, > love > partha > > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > > Dear Jayashree, Peter, > > > > I really liked what you wrote- I have been curious about how that > works, but haven't gained any 'solid' opinion- I also know that there > is a phenomenon of 'induced hallucinations' which by definition have > vividness of reality /in fact is a reality for one who experiences > them/ I don't know what in fact has happened in particular case, but > that exist. I hope Partha will rrespond to my Q-how easily the > hypnotist was able to 'return the soul into reality, and how reality > looked like after that. > > > > I would be too scared to give up my conscious control- but I know > some people tolerate that better. > > In ny event to escape bad and harmful situations, and here we all > see it is possible, sound advice is not play with fire. > > And yes, Jayashree, trust the God. > > I still await for Partha's comments, he has certainly more to say > than I do. > > Best wishes, > > Anna > > > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > > > I agree with what you say too. Getting into the company of good > > minded, simple people and trying to think in general about the > > goodness and well-being of both oneself and others is enough. > > Regression, etc, maybe too serious and it is true it may actually > be > > scary because one has to be an efficient householder and perform > > his/her dharmas. Maybe regression can be tried if one chooses to be > a > > monk, has some deep seated emotional troubles where knowledge of > such > > things maybe a solace, but I too feel these are extreme measures > one > > should NOT easily resort to. After all, god who is the Cosmic > > intelligence and knows what is good for us all, has designed us the > > way we are, with desires and all, and also gives us all we need, > > sorrow and happiness, to grow with it. We have free will to choose > > good friendship, devotion and learn to cultivate good thoughts for > > both one's own and others' welfare. > > > > vedic astrology, "Peter Richard" > <kairos@h...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound > a > > note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain > > cases it can be positively harmful. > > > > > > In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with > a > > hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal > > of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be > > suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental > aberrations. > > Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not > > immediately discernable. > > > > > > A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should > be > > sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners > > have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether > it > > is appropriate to proceed with the regression. > > > > > > A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and > will > > generate more problems than are solved. > > > > > > So in cases where there is doubt - don't! > > > > > > Many blessings, > > > Peter Richard > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Peter, Who is called Naaga Shuddhi Jyotishi ? Any explanations in this regard ? Thanks, With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao."J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Peter, SO TRUE! Regards /Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com - Peter Richard vedic astrology Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:01 PM [vedic astrology] Regression WARNING! Dear Friends, With the recent postings about regression, I would like to sound a note of warning that this is not for everyone. In fact, in certain cases it can be positively harmful. In the cases of violent death (rape / murder etc) or living with a hidden enemy from the past, such experiences can cause a great deal of damage to the wellbeing of individuals who may already be suffering from a host of personality disorders / mental aberrations. Such problems are often 'just under the surface' and are not immediately discernable. A careful assessment by a competent Naagashuddhi-Jyotishi should be sought before such experiments are indulged in. Such practitioners have access to Akashic Records and can therefore ascertain whether it is appropriate to proceed with the regression. A hit and miss approach - on a wider population base - can and will generate more problems than are solved. So in cases where there is doubt - don't! Many blessings, Peter Richard Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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