childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

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Dear Jagannathan Ji,

 

As i wrote to you earlier, you present interesting analysis.

 

Can you please write about Suparna Ji's chart. i want to compare my thoughts with yours.

 

OR you think this analysis needs to be done only in a male's chart? (some do say so!).

 

pls reply.

 

regards

viswanadham

kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Supamaji,

Namasthe.

Analysis of the chart of Mr.Jayanta Benerjee with reference to child birth.

The fifth lord is Mars.he is debilitated.Rahu is with Mars.Fifth lord Mars does

not have needed strength.His sign dispositor Moon is with jupiter.That is good

and gives scope for hope.

The fifth lord from the Moon sign is Mercury.He is a malefic and otherwise also he lacks strength.

The fifth from Jupiter is aspected by Venus.That again is good.

 

The Aruda padas of the 3rd and the 9th from lagnam are ,

Of the third is Dhanus wherein Venus is posited.The Sun is not in the 2,6,8,and

12 positions to the said Aruda padam.Venus denies fetility.

Of the 9th ,Taurus is the Aruda padam .The lord is in the sign of a benific. Sun

is not in the 2,6,8and 12 position from the said arudapadam.This Aruda padam

has strength, ofcourse.

Cosidering from Sun,

The Aruda padam of the third is ,Katakam.Malefics are situated there and it is

eigth from lagnam.The Arudapadam of the 5th is in katakam.No strength.?Again

Sun is in the 8th from the Aruda padam.It also confirms lack of

atrength.Therefore lack of ability to contain jeeva.

The Arudam of the 9th from Sun is Aquarius.It seems to indicate some

strength.?Therefore possibly remedial measures may strengthen the 5th bhavam

,in addition to medical treatment?.Consulting an expert for pariharam may

help?.

 

Let us see what beejam has got to tell us.

Beeja Sputam:

Suns longitude is 312-17+Longitude of Venus is 268-00+Longitude of Jupiter is

327-32=907-49.Expunging multiples of 360 from 907-49 we get

187-49.Dividing this figure we get 7-49 of Libra ,which is the beejam of the

native.This is aspected by Jupiter and therefore shows strength.

Therefore performing Pariharam may strengthen the 5th bhavam .

The next one is the Sapthamsam.

The presence of Venus from the 5th of the chart may deny fertility.Lagnalord

Shani is in 11 and it is good.The 5th lord Marcury has rasi aspect on Mars and

exalted Sun with the Aruda padam of the 5th bhavam.This seems to strenthen the

5th bhavam.Possibly it is my wild imagination?.

The Vimshottaridasa bhukthi in progress are Mercury dasa, Mars bhukthi and

followed by Rahu bhukthi till 29-8-2006.Mercury,Mars and Rahu are weak in rasi

chart?.Rahu bhagavan is in the sapthamsa lagnam in own sign?.Mars in own sign

with exalted Sun?in Sapthamsam and the 5th bhavapadam is situated there

in.Mercury has rasi aspect on them in Sapthamsam?.

I wish all good luck to the native.

I have attempted to make a clear analysis and I hope that my analysis may help

you to study the horoscope further.

Offering my pranams to Rev.Gurus .

Regards,

jagannathan.

 

suparna banerjee <suparna1000 > wrote:

Hi Krishna,

I am really thankful to you for analyzing my child birth problem and suggest the

timings. If some remedies are available for minimizing these ill-effects of the

stars for me /my husband , pl. let me know. I shall do my best.

thank you once again.

suparna.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Suparna,I am sorry to hear of your problems. Get a second (and possibly even a

third) opinion about your case from a reputable gynecologist before proceeding

further. You are already past 40 and approaching menopause -- even without

other complications, getting pregnant at this stage may involve lot of IVF

trials before success. However, I can fully understand and do sympathize with

your desire to have a child of your own.Ok, as far as your chart goes, it seems

that your birth details show an ascendant which can change from Sag to Cap

depending on whether it is 8:50 or 8:51 ... even if the time is exact, the

place of birth (east or west calcutta) may shift the ascendant one way or the

other. However, from the details you give, the Capricorn ascendant seems more

likely. As can be expected, there are several afflictions to

the fifth lord from Ascendant (Venus), which is the primary indicator of

children; it is debilitated in navamsa and conjunct with Ketu, Mercury and Mars

in the 12th house. Furthermore, there is papa-kartari to the house where Venus

is "hemmed in" by Sun and Saturn which sit in adjacent houses. You were running

Rahu-Venus-Jupiter at the time when the pregnancy was established in Jan 03.

When you lost the pregnancy in June 03, you were running Rahu-Venus-Saturn.

Saturn is strong and aspects the putra-karaka, Jupiter and is involved in the

papa-kartari yoga. To summarize, based on your horoscope, I see only one

planet which is capable of giving children i.e., Jupiter. If you had tried

during the Ra/Ju period, you probably would have succeeded ( Jul 92 - Dec 94 ).

The next period of Ra/Su starts in May 04 (up to Feb 05). This period is

reasonable (although I would not call it positive) for child birth (conception

may

take place before). On the positive side, Su aspects the 5th (his exaltation

position), he is reasonably placed in rasi chart, he is aspected by Jupter and

does not have any malefic aspects. On the negative side, he participates in

papa-kartari to Venus, and he exchanges signs with Saturn in navamsha and he is

the lord of the evil 8th house. I think you will atleast partially succeed in

your efforts towards pregnancy in his sub-period. However, full success depends

on being extremely careful during the whole of the pregnancy, since there are

many evil sub-periods during the 10 month Ra/Su period. If you can make this

commitment, you should try again. On a positive note, I can tell you that the

upcoming Jupiter period (2007-23) indicates that you will have some children

.... whether they are your own or adopted.Your husband's chart also confirms the

evil placement of the fifth lord (Mars), who is debilitated in rasi and is

conjunct Ra in the 8th house and aspected by a strong Sa and Me. During the next

year, he will be running Me-Ra; there is not much hope here, except that both

his rasi and navamsa dispositors are conjunct Jupiter which is the only

positive indication I can find. He will be in Me-Ra-Ju period from Aug - Dec

04; this might be the time period, if any, when he can have a kid in the next

2-3 years.Over all, I recommend trying IVF between Mar-May 04 for potential

baby birth during late 04.Best,Krishna> I have newly joined this group and am

very glad to see lots of > discussions and predictions that has really come

true. I am really > very frustrated about my pregnancy. I am married for 13

yrs. & had > first miscarriage just after marriage.I have endometriosis and >

fibriods and so after long periods of treatment I did my IVF(test > tube)in

calcutta on 24th jan. 2003 and got pregnant.I

came back in > USA on may 2003 with 4+ months and in june with 5+ months I had

lost > prgnancy.Now in USA my doctor prescribed for fibroid surgery on jan > 30

and then to try for another IVF. It already had cost me a lot and > will do

more. Now we can do these if there really is a fair chance > and timing.

otherwise we will go for adoption. > my (Suparna Banerjee)birth time 8th

December, 1963, 8:50 am IST at > Calcutta, west bengal, india. > my

husband's(jayanta Banerjee)birth time 25th February, 1963, 2:15 am > IST at

Calcutta, west bengal, india.> If someone can really help us taking the right

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Thanks a lot for going through my chart and doing calculations. After seeing the

calculations of Jagannathanji for my husband and combining these two , do you

think there is some hope for us to get a baby in 2004?

As for adoption, US law is very strict for permanent residents to adopt a baby from India .

If u can also speak of some remedies/puja, we shall do our best.

Kamal kapoor , astrogist from Delhi prescribed me to worship santan gopal

jantra. Pl. suggest me ,if u can.

Thanks a lot for your time.

SuparnaH S Viswanadham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Jagannathan Ji,

 

As i wrote to you earlier, you present interesting analysis.

 

Can you please write about Suparna Ji's chart. i want to compare my thoughts with yours.

 

OR you think this analysis needs to be done only in a male's chart? (some do say so!).

 

pls reply.

 

regards

viswanadham

kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Respected Supamaji,

Namasthe.

Analysis of the chart of Mr.Jayanta Benerjee with reference to child birth.

The fifth lord is Mars.he is debilitated.Rahu is with Mars.Fifth lord Mars does

not have needed strength.His sign dispositor Moon is with jupiter.That is good

and gives scope for hope.

The fifth lord from the Moon sign is Mercury.He is a malefic and otherwise also he lacks strength.

The fifth from Jupiter is aspected by Venus.That again is good.

 

The Aruda padas of the 3rd and the 9th from lagnam are ,

Of the third is Dhanus wherein Venus is posited.The Sun is not in the 2,6,8,and

12 positions to the said Aruda padam.Venus denies fetility.

Of the 9th ,Taurus is the Aruda padam .The lord is in the sign of a benific. Sun

is not in the 2,6,8and 12 position from the said arudapadam.This Aruda padam

has strength, ofcourse.

Cosidering from Sun,

The Aruda padam of the third is ,Katakam.Malefics are situated there and it is

eigth from lagnam.The Arudapadam of the 5th is in katakam.No strength.?Again

Sun is in the 8th from the Aruda padam.It also confirms lack of

atrength.Therefore lack of ability to contain jeeva.

The Arudam of the 9th from Sun is Aquarius.It seems to indicate some

strength.?Therefore possibly remedial measures may strengthen the 5th bhavam

,in addition to medical treatment?.Consulting an expert for pariharam may

help?.

 

Let us see what beejam has got to tell us.

Beeja Sputam:

Suns longitude is 312-17+Longitude of Venus is 268-00+Longitude of Jupiter is

327-32=907-49.Expunging multiples of 360 from 907-49 we get

187-49.Dividing this figure we get 7-49 of Libra ,which is the beejam of the

native.This is aspected by Jupiter and therefore shows strength.

Therefore performing Pariharam may strengthen the 5th bhavam .

The next one is the Sapthamsam.

The presence of Venus from the 5th of the chart may deny fertility.Lagnalord

Shani is in 11 and it is good.The 5th lord Marcury has rasi aspect on Mars and

exalted Sun with the Aruda padam of the 5th bhavam.This seems to strenthen the

5th bhavam.Possibly it is my wild imagination?.

The Vimshottaridasa bhukthi in progress are Mercury dasa, Mars bhukthi and

followed by Rahu bhukthi till 29-8-2006.Mercury,Mars and Rahu are weak in rasi

chart?.Rahu bhagavan is in the sapthamsa lagnam in own sign?.Mars in own sign

with exalted Sun?in Sapthamsam and the 5th bhavapadam is situated there

in.Mercury has rasi aspect on them in Sapthamsam?.

I wish all good luck to the native.

I have attempted to make a clear analysis and I hope that my analysis may help

you to study the horoscope further.

Offering my pranams to Rev.Gurus .

Regards,

jagannathan.

 

suparna banerjee <suparna1000 > wrote:

Hi Krishna,

I am really thankful to you for analyzing my child birth problem and suggest the

timings. If some remedies are available for minimizing these ill-effects of the

stars for me /my husband , pl. let me know. I shall do my best.

thank you once again.

suparna.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Suparna,I am sorry to hear of your problems. Get a second (and possibly even a

third) opinion about your case from a reputable gynecologist before proceeding

further. You are already past 40 and approaching menopause -- even without

other complications, getting pregnant at this stage may involve lot of IVF

trials before success. However, I can fully understand and do sympathize with

your desire to have a child of your own.Ok, as far as your chart goes, it seems

that your birth details show an ascendant which can change from Sag to Cap

depending on whether it is 8:50 or 8:51 ... even if the time is exact, the

place of birth (east or west calcutta) may shift the ascendant one way or the

other. However, from the details you give, the Capricorn ascendant seems more

likely. As can be expected, there are several afflictions to

the fifth lord from Ascendant (Venus), which is the primary indicator of

children; it is debilitated in navamsa and conjunct with Ketu, Mercury and Mars

in the 12th house. Furthermore, there is papa-kartari to the house where Venus

is "hemmed in" by Sun and Saturn which sit in adjacent houses. You were running

Rahu-Venus-Jupiter at the time when the pregnancy was established in Jan 03.

When you lost the pregnancy in June 03, you were running Rahu-Venus-Saturn.

Saturn is strong and aspects the putra-karaka, Jupiter and is involved in the

papa-kartari yoga. To summarize, based on your horoscope, I see only one

planet which is capable of giving children i.e., Jupiter. If you had tried

during the Ra/Ju period, you probably would have succeeded ( Jul 92 - Dec 94 ).

The next period of Ra/Su starts in May 04 (up to Feb 05). This period is

reasonable (although I would not call it positive) for child birth (conception

may

take place before). On the positive side, Su aspects the 5th (his exaltation

position), he is reasonably placed in rasi chart, he is aspected by Jupter and

does not have any malefic aspects. On the negative side, he participates in

papa-kartari to Venus, and he exchanges signs with Saturn in navamsha and he is

the lord of the evil 8th house. I think you will atleast partially succeed in

your efforts towards pregnancy in his sub-period. However, full success depends

on being extremely careful during the whole of the pregnancy, since there are

many evil sub-periods during the 10 month Ra/Su period. If you can make this

commitment, you should try again. On a positive note, I can tell you that the

upcoming Jupiter period (2007-23) indicates that you will have some children

.... whether they are your own or adopted.Your husband's chart also confirms the

evil placement of the fifth lord (Mars), who is debilitated in rasi and is

conjunct Ra in the 8th house and aspected by a strong Sa and Me. During the next

year, he will be running Me-Ra; there is not much hope here, except that both

his rasi and navamsa dispositors are conjunct Jupiter which is the only

positive indication I can find. He will be in Me-Ra-Ju period from Aug - Dec

04; this might be the time period, if any, when he can have a kid in the next

2-3 years.Over all, I recommend trying IVF between Mar-May 04 for potential

baby birth during late 04.Best,Krishna> I have newly joined this group and am

very glad to see lots of > discussions and predictions that has really come

true. I am really > very frustrated about my pregnancy. I am married for 13

yrs. & had > first miscarriage just after marriage.I have endometriosis and >

fibriods and so after long periods of treatment I did my IVF(test > tube)in

calcutta on 24th jan. 2003 and got pregnant.I

came back in > USA on may 2003 with 4+ months and in june with 5+ months I had

lost > prgnancy.Now in USA my doctor prescribed for fibroid surgery on jan > 30

and then to try for another IVF. It already had cost me a lot and > will do

more. Now we can do these if there really is a fair chance > and timing.

otherwise we will go for adoption. > my (Suparna Banerjee)birth time 8th

December, 1963, 8:50 am IST at > Calcutta, west bengal, india. > my

husband's(jayanta Banerjee)birth time 25th February, 1963, 2:15 am > IST at

Calcutta, west bengal, india.> If someone can really help us taking the right

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||Hare Rama Krishna||

 

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Suparna,

 

Yes, Worship of Santana Gopala or Bala Gopala is best. The following

prayer is from Sanjay Rath's article and is reproduced below for

your attention. I hope this helps. May Lord Jagannath grace you both.

 

Santana – Gopala Mantra (Narada Rishi; Anustup Chanddah):

 

Devakisutam Govindam Vasudevam Jagatpatim

Dehim-Tanayam Krishna-twa-maham Saranagatah.

 

Remarks: Meditate on Lord Krishna rising from the sea in a chariot

with Arjuna and bringing a baby son (to us). It is best to start

this mantra in a Holy place near the sea, preferably Puri as the

mantra specifically refus to the Jagannath Rupa (form) with the

word "Jagatpatim". One lakh Japa followed by a proper pooja as

described above gives an illustrious and dutiful son.

 

The above excerpt (with the original Sanskrit text) is available at

the end of the webpage:

 

http://www.srath.com/lesson/saptamsa_2.htm

 

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972),

 

No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in the

efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in finding

the correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is no

use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic remedies

in astrology (VRA).

 

Dear Jagannathan and Vishwanadham,

 

Kudos to you both for making this case interesting. You can refer to

the weblink above for more on this topic.

 

regards

Hari

vedic astrology, suparna banerjee

<suparna1000> wrote:

> If u can also speak of some remedies/puja, we shall do our best.

> Kamal kapoor , astrogist from Delhi prescribed me to worship

> santan gopal jantra. Pl. suggest me ,if u can.

[Guest guest]

Hari,

 

To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to

pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your prerogative

if you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies. I

do not.

 

Best,

 

Krishna

 

> Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972),

>

> No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in the

> efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in finding

> the correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is no

> use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic

remedies

> in astrology (VRA).

>

[Guest guest]

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Krishna,

 

I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

kind as to explain?

 

regards

Hari

 

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972"

<quietwolf1972> wrote:

> Hari,

>

> To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your

prerogative

> if you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies.

I

> do not.

>

> Best,

>

> Krishna

>

> > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972),

> >

> > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in

the

> > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in

finding

> > the correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is

no

> > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic

> remedies

> > in astrology (VRA).

> >

[Guest guest]

Hari,

 

I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in

astrological remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense

of hope to people by prescribing such remedies does more harm than

good.

 

Best,

 

Krishna

 

 

> Dear Krishna,

>

> I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972"

> <quietwolf1972> wrote:

> > Hari,

> >

> > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to

> > pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your

> prerogative

> > if you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological

remedies.

> I

> > do not.

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Krishna

> >

> > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972),

> > >

> > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in

> the

> > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in

> finding

> > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is

> no

> > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic

> > remedies

> > > in astrology (VRA).

> > >

[Guest guest]

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Krishna,

 

I will leave this discussion at this point. However, I recommend

that you read Sanjays book VRA and decide for yourself. I urge you

to have an open mind and explore the many spiritual dimensions that

are possible in Vedic astrology.

 

regards

Hari

 

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972"

<quietwolf1972> wrote:

> Hari,

>

> I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating

astrological

> remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in

> astrological remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false

sense

> of hope to people by prescribing such remedies does more harm than

> good.

>

> Best,

>

> Krishna

>

>

> > Dear Krishna,

> >

> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be

so

> > kind as to explain?

> >

> > regards

> > Hari

> >

> > vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972"

> > <quietwolf1972> wrote:

> > > Hari,

> > >

> > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to

> > > pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your

> > prerogative

> > > if you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological

> remedies.

> > I

> > > do not.

> > >

> > > Best,

> > >

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972),

> > > >

> > > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe

in

> > the

> > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in

> > finding

> > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there

is

> > no

> > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic

> > > remedies

> > > > in astrology (VRA).

> > > >

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Dear Ramdas Rao,

 

> Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in

Astrological Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ?

 

There need not be a use for everything that we do. Why do we dance,

listen to music or walk in the woods? I dabble in astrology because I

am curious and it is a fun intellectual exercise.

 

>Now for example, a unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask

when his daughter will get married as the age is increasing and

worried about his daughter's marriage.Then what will be your

explanation to his query? Is that you tell him that in his daughter's

chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further?

 

If your car does not start it is useful to know that it is caused by

a dead battery and not a blown fuse. There are many ways to fix the

battery but I do not believe that chanting mantras is one of them.

 

>Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic effects of

planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

 

This is your own opinion. I do not agree with you. Astrology =

prediction. Whether some one can use that prediction to right the

course of their life depends on many factors including the person's

capability to understand their predicament.

 

 

> As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts

from past 18 years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and

such remedies have helped the common man to reduce such planetary

afflictions and the problems solved at the earliest.

> For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many

experienced Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect

remedies working.But onething is that the Astrologer should follow

some rules which are mentioned in Prashna Margam and then only his

remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

 

 

How do you know that your mantras actually helped these people? At

the most, I see them giving people moral support during tough times.

But this can also be done by talking to an older mature person in the

family or (in the case of western countries) talking to a

psychologist or counselor.

 

It has been entertaining, but I hope we can end this argument in

harmony and part ways agreeing to disagree.

 

Best,

 

Krishna

[Guest guest]

Jai,

 

> When we talk about mantras we are not talking about repairing a car

battery (Although there is actually someone out there doing car

astrology (Search google)).

 

Take my word and call AAA the next time your car breaks down. You

will thank me for it :-)

 

>Anyway, It's a well known fact even according to "modern" science

that sound directly impacts the psyche of an individual. For example,

your mother's voice, someone screaming at you, etc all evoke certain

emotions. Those emotions may "will" your body to do something.

Similarily, when most people hear music (essentially sounds

repeating, beats, rhythm, meter etc) they like, they respond in a

positive manner sometimes making him/her happy, overjoyed or even

ecstatic. Which is why almost everyone "likes" listening to music

although there seems to be no apparent use for it -like you say, or

is there?

 

> There definitely exists the possibility that mantrams can actually

work, atleast is making someone happy. Common, it doesn't take a

genius to figure this one out.

 

I acknowledge that yoga in it's many forms is helpful to heal and

soothe the human psyche and body. I am not disputing this well known

(if not well understood) fact. What I do not agree with is that you

can jump from this fact to a conclusion that there is a "possibility

that (astrological) mantrams actually work".

 

Best,

 

Krishna

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Dear Ramdas Rao,

 

I fail to follow the logic in your mail.

 

First you say:

 

> Dear Krsihna,

> If you are not beleiving in remedies,then leave it.I dont want to

argue with such kind of people who does not have belief in remedial

measures.

 

And then you say:

 

>Now you have asked me whether my remedial measures have worked ,but

this has to be answered by the people whom I gave them remedial

measures and the results they got if they used them strictly as per

procedure. But anyhow I again press you that without remdies there is

no Astrology at all.

 

In the same note you: (a) declare that you do not want to argue with

me and then (b) insist that I accept a view which is not acceptable

to me. This is inconsistent reasoning.

 

>Did you not read Sunils mail sent just yesterday about curing of

cancer? just ask him and I dont want to discuss those things.

 

I am glad that the cancer was cured. But this does not prove much

beyond the fact that your mantras helped support the lady in question

during a difficult phase of life. Further more, did your mantra help

her or did her visit to Amritanandamayi Mata help her?

 

Best,

 

Krishna

[Guest guest]

Yes, very useful. But, as I point out below, you can also get that

from other sources. Furthermore, if you approach the right person

(like a good gynecologist for a pregnancy question), along with moral

support, you can also get very good practical advice on how to fix

your problems.

 

Best,

 

Krishna

 

 

> "giving people moral support during tough times"

> It's quite an achievement, per se, don't you think so, Krishna?

> Best wishes,

> Anna

>

> quietwolf1972 wrote:

> Dear Ramdas Rao,

>

> > Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in

> Astrological Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ?

>

> There need not be a use for everything that we do. Why do we dance,

> listen to music or walk in the woods? I dabble in astrology because

I

> am curious and it is a fun intellectual exercise.

>

> >Now for example, a unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask

> when his daughter will get married as the age is increasing and

> worried about his daughter's marriage.Then what will be your

> explanation to his query? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's

> chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

> may delay further?

>

> If your car does not start it is useful to know that it is caused

by

> a dead battery and not a blown fuse. There are many ways to fix the

> battery but I do not believe that chanting mantras is one of them.

>

> >Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic effects of

> planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

> Jyotish.

>

> This is your own opinion. I do not agree with you. Astrology =

> prediction. Whether some one can use that prediction to right the

> course of their life depends on many factors including the person's

> capability to understand their predicament.

>

>

> > As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts

> from past 18 years and I have suggested remedies for the problems

and

> such remedies have helped the common man to reduce such planetary

> afflictions and the problems solved at the earliest.

> > For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are

many

> experienced Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect

> remedies working.But onething is that the Astrologer should follow

> some rules which are mentioned in Prashna Margam and then only his

> remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

>

>

> How do you know that your mantras actually helped these people? At

> the most, I see them giving people moral support during tough

times.

> But this can also be done by talking to an older mature person in

the

> family or (in the case of western countries) talking to a

> psychologist or counselor.

>

> It has been entertaining, but I hope we can end this argument in

> harmony and part ways agreeing to disagree.

>

> Best,

>

> Krishna

>

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Dear Ramdas Rao,

 

It is probably best to drop this subject here, as I dont see any

practical way to convince each other.

 

Best,

 

Krishna

 

> Dear Krsihna,

> I dont have any answer for your query but better you write to Sunil

John who send me this Lady ( Linda ) and I sent her the Mantra for

curing Cancer as a remedial measure which has helped her.You are

simply arguing and want to make believe the memebers of this list

that Mantras wont work.It is better read Mantra Shastra under the

guidance of a GURU and you will come to know what is MANTRA.

> With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

> quietwolf1972 wrote:

> Dear Ramdas Rao,

>

> I fail to follow the logic in your mail.

>

> First you say:

>

> > Dear Krsihna,

> > If you are not beleiving in remedies,then leave it.I dont want to

> argue with such kind of people who does not have belief in

remedial

> measures.

>

> And then you say:

>

> >Now you have asked me whether my remedial measures have

worked ,but

> this has to be answered by the people whom I gave them remedial

> measures and the results they got if they used them strictly as per

> procedure. But anyhow I again press you that without remdies there

is

> no Astrology at all.

>

> In the same note you: (a) declare that you do not want to argue

with

> me and then (b) insist that I accept a view which is not acceptable

> to me. This is inconsistent reasoning.

>

> >Did you not read Sunils mail sent just yesterday about curing of

> cancer? just ask him and I dont want to discuss those things.

>

> I am glad that the cancer was cured. But this does not prove much

> beyond the fact that your mantras helped support the lady in

question

> during a difficult phase of life. Further more, did your mantra

help

> her or did her visit to Amritanandamayi Mata help her?

>

> Best,

>

> Krishna

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