Saddam Hussein -> Ramani

December 16, 2003

Dear Ramani,

Longevity is always a hard nut to break, none the less in Saddams case.

Exchange between the 8th and 10th lords is called Dainya Parivartana Yoga and is

never good (Unlucky, mean, hasty nature, questionable character, suffer from

enemies and diseases).

I am working on it currently (as time allows) and will reply as soon as I feel

"safe" with my assumption.

A note on Martin Schulman books: please remember that he is "thinking" western

system i.e houses etc.

(try the sound of tiny "Retrograde Pluto" 6 billion(!) Km' away...) <smile>.

Kind regards

/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com

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Ramani Alwar

vedic astrology

Monday, December 15, 2003 9:06 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein ->

Dear Jay Weiss,

About retrograde planets, Martin Schulman and Erin Sullivan bith wrote

very nicely. Of course I have gone through the Moon's nodes book by Martin

Schulman. I will try to get a copy Karmic Relations as you say.

Weiss,

Here in the given case what about the longevity of this Saddam since Saturn and

Jupiter are in parivarthana (exchange of houses) and have enough strength?

Becuase at this point everyone is curious about the verdict of this native.

Yours sincerely

A. Ramani.

"J.-Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Ramani Alwar,

Very good that you mentioned Martin Schulman's book.

I have been using it for years and much of his indication do apply very often.

If you have his book "Karmic Relations" you will be able to expend your horizon

even more.

Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com

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Ramani Alwar

vedic astrology

Monday, December 15, 2003 6:48 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein

Hello Venkatrama Sastry jee,

Arrogance and Cruelty of this native is the gift of retrograde Mars by

Martin Schulman, in his book on retrograde and Reincarnatioin he mentions that

for Mars retrograde at the sixth house as 'Here the individual is caught

between conflict of how much he should do for others and how much he should he

should for himself. He tends to resent others telling hin how to do things and

yet he consciously wants their advice. Highly independent, he strives to be the

ruler of his own life amidst a flood of external circumstances that dictate the

direction of his energies. And so on...... I believe the Cruelty is due to the

planet of Mars and that is retrograde in nature at his own sign and joins the

Moon and Rahu. Here we can learn the effect of two debilitated planets conjunct

with the retrograde Mars.

The conjunction of debilitated Moon and Rahu accounts for the Guru mangala yoga

to act in a reverse fashion.

The debility of Jupiter can account for the religious intolerance by some means.

Further I leave with a query the lord of the 8/9th house is in parivarthana with

the lord of the 10th house. can this give a long life to this native? Further

the lord of the 8th house is with the exalted planet Venus and the Venus gets

Vargottama too. That is what a few astrologers will look in depth at present

and also to understand the Mundane and natal chart.

Bye now

Can a learned member of this group let us know what indications in Saddam's

natal chart indicate cruelty, arrogance, violence caused, religious

intolerance, loss of sons etc?-VRS

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December 16, 2003

This is very interesting- haven't heard much on Parivartana Yoga-

I am wondering if any PY involving dusthana can be beneficial?I've noticed for

example, PY btw. 6th and 7th house is'of dubious nature'

Having always in mind what the nature of planets involved is, what planets

leave 'behind' in the houses they leave, what environment they meet in a new house,

their friendship and other relevant

variables, it seems that you explored this issue further- all other things being

OK/as per above/ do you think that mere lordship ove dusthana can/cannot have a

decisive say in PY?

Thanks,

Best wishes,

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