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om namo bhagvate vasudevaya

 

Dear Nareshji

 

Jyotish is study of karma, and we get results based on our karma. The

prayers are to block out evil entering our mind. the prayers help us

to be peaceful and helpful. As long as we pray to get laddus, we are

in a dilemma, whether or not god would give results. when i was 10

years old, When my mother was on death bed, i prayed hard, and

harder, it was obviously a sincere request. But she died. Karma,

period.

 

There are certain things we cant understand in one life time, i am

not saying that i am a sadhu, but atleast i know that her death was

a major turning point for me. Initially it is a shock, but later when

we realise, i understand that it was for my good, it was for my

advancement.

 

Pray for peace and harmony, pray but dont get into dilemmas, dont get

into request modes. Because we get what we deserve nothing more

nothing less.

 

regards

partha

om tat sat

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "nareshcg" <nareshcg>

wrote:

> |Om Namo Narayanaya|

>

> Dear All,

>

> I got recently initiated into astrology.

>

> The science has taught me many things - the importance of karma and

> the acceptance of fate.

>

> There are certain things which are not meant to be and yet I want

> them. I pray to God. The question is should I pray or should I not

> pray? I can't help praying to God. There must be many times in my

> long life that I have prayed to God for many material and fickle

> things of absolute no value and many times of substantial value

like

> well-being of a family member/ friend. I might be praying for a

> wrong cause which I am ablivious to. Should I pray/ should I not

> pray?

>

> I know for sure after getting into astrology that there is a GOD.

> Why is it that God turns down the most sincere request? I

understand

> that this is a stupid question but it is important for me as I get

> angry with Him which I should not. So, am trying to learn the

answer.

>

> The other query is that can prayer change my destiny?

>

> Thanks for your time.

>

> With Regards,

> NC Gupta

>

> |OM Tat Sat|

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---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

Dear Shri Naresh,

 

> > I know for sure after getting into astrology that there is a

GOD.

 

I would be interested to know how did you arrive at this conclusion.

 

 

> > Why is it that God turns down the most sincere request?

 

This is surprising, coming from you as it is. Are you not a

grandfather? a father and husband? Who is responsible for this? God.

God guides you as surely as a lighthouse guiding a ship in stormy

weather. You have chosen to look at the glass as half-empty instead

of half-full.

 

> > The other query is that can prayer change my destiny?

 

As Partha says, prayers cannot change your destiny but they can

alleviate the suffering and sorrows faced by you in this present or

future life.

 

regards

Hari

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> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> Dear Shri Naresh,

>

> > > I know for sure after getting into astrology that there is a

> GOD.

>

> I would be interested to know how did you arrive at this

conclusion.

 

NCG: After getting interested in astrology (which happened during my

Budh dasa), I understood why I had the children I had and why my

wife had the husband I am. Now the question is- who controls it? The

answer is God. Everything is so tightly integrated and with such

perfection - my horo with my wife's, children and vice-versa. Who

can do it except GOD Himself!! Why was I born in India and not USA?

Why is the population of human beings increasing and that of animals

and plants decreasing? We take birth and re-birth.

 

I have realized His presence logically but I haven't experienced it.

The day I can experience His experience, I presume all questions

will fade.

 

> > > Why is it that God turns down the most sincere request?

>

> This is surprising, coming from you as it is. Are you not a

> grandfather? a father and husband? Who is responsible for this?

God.

> God guides you as surely as a lighthouse guiding a ship in stormy

> weather. You have chosen to look at the glass as half-empty

instead

> of half-full.

 

NCG: I think that the query has not been communicated by me

properly. If instance, Parthaji prays hard for his mother but still

loses her. I lost my father very young. God did not listen to my

prayer though I prayed hard and sincerely. What is the reason?

 

> > > The other query is that can prayer change my destiny?

>

> As Partha says, prayers cannot change your destiny but they can

> alleviate the suffering and sorrows faced by you in this present

or

> future life.

 

 

NCG: The query that stems from this is - Does this mean that God

does not listen to prayers but judges you on the basis of karma?

 

> regards

> Hari

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---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

Dear Shri NCG,

 

> I have realized His presence logically but I haven't experienced

it.

> The day I can experience His experience, I presume all questions

> will fade.

 

You realize God every day. God is around you and inside you.

 

 

> NCG: I think that the query has not been communicated by me

> properly. If instance, Parthaji prays hard for his mother but

still

> loses her. I lost my father very young. God did not listen to my

> prayer though I prayed hard and sincerely. What is the reason?

 

When you pray sincerely but still things happen against your wish,

it does not mean that God is not listening to you. What it means is

that the sands of karma had run out on the parent. That cannot be

reversed.

 

 

> NCG: The query that stems from this is - Does this mean that God

> does not listen to prayers but judges you on the basis of karma?

 

The karma is the result of your own doing or to be precise, the

soul's actions in previous lives. God judges you on the basis of

what you have done in this present life. That is all. I would

suggest you ponder (as Partha has hinted) about the meaning of

attachment.

 

regards

Hari

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Dear Learned Friends,

 

Great philosophy is going on here.

 

Man is mortal.

 

I would like to tell you one thing in this regard. While

astrology gives us direction about future it also tells us

about our past. Now, here comes two different aspects of

human beings and karma. Karma which can be divided based

on predestination (this is called "prarabdha" in Hindi) and

free will. The Karma which are based on our past lives'

deeds will become predestination in this life. This

further means that certain things in our life are

results/fruits of those past lives' karmas i.e.

predestination which can not be changed and will happen at

any cost. However, we also have "free will" which gives us

direction in this life to do a karma and save it for future

lives or consume its fruits in this life only.

 

Your cases related to prayers belong to accummulation of

karma which will result into fruits later (cause and effect

of free will) while the death of loved ones belongs to

predestination (which was decided earlier based on your

past deeds).

 

Request you to accummulate the deeds based on free will, as

much as you can and stop worrying about predestination.

 

This accummulation of good Karmas based on free will

results into renunciation while bad karmas results into

predestination in next life.

 

Sincere regards,

Prakash

 

 

--- onlyhari <onlyhari wrote:

> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> Dear Shri NCG,

>

> > I have realized His presence logically but I haven't

> experienced

> it.

> > The day I can experience His experience, I presume all

> questions

> > will fade.

>

> You realize God every day. God is around you and inside

> you.

>

>

> > NCG: I think that the query has not been communicated

> by me

> > properly. If instance, Parthaji prays hard for his

> mother but

> still

> > loses her. I lost my father very young. God did not

> listen to my

> > prayer though I prayed hard and sincerely. What is the

> reason?

>

> When you pray sincerely but still things happen against

> your wish,

> it does not mean that God is not listening to you. What

> it means is

> that the sands of karma had run out on the parent. That

> cannot be

> reversed.

>

>

> > NCG: The query that stems from this is - Does this mean

> that God

> > does not listen to prayers but judges you on the basis

> of karma?

>

> The karma is the result of your own doing or to be

> precise, the

> soul's actions in previous lives. God judges you on the

> basis of

> what you have done in this present life. That is all. I

> would

> suggest you ponder (as Partha has hinted) about the

> meaning of

> attachment.

>

> regards

> Hari

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear N C Gupta,

Praying to god is always good. However the true prayer should ideallyn be

without asking for anything as the is all knowing. The results emanate from

shraddha.

Chandrashekhar.

-

nareshcg

vedic astrology

Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:13 PM

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|Om Namo Narayanaya|Dear All,I got recently initiated into astrology. The

science has taught me many things - the importance of karma and the acceptance

of fate. There are certain things which are not meant to be and yet I want

them. I pray to God. The question is should I pray or should I not pray? I

can't help praying to God. There must be many times in my long life that I have

prayed to God for many material and fickle things of absolute no value and many

times of substantial value like well-being of a family member/ friend. I might

be praying for a wrong cause which I am ablivious to. Should I pray/ should I

not pray?I know for sure after getting into astrology that there is a GOD. Why

is it that God turns down the most sincere request? I understand that this is a

stupid question but it is important for me as I get angry with Him which I

should not. So, am trying to learn the answer.The other query is that can

prayer change my destiny? Thanks for your time.With Regards,NC Gupta|OM Tat

Sat|

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