8th lord in 12 VRY-dear ananth

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Dear Sir

I understand what you are saying.I request you to look into the following points also:

1. In this case Jupiter gets retrograde in 12th

2.Mars aspects the Jupiter.Mars is in capricorn and yogakaraka for Simha lagna

3.Jupiter is Atmakaraka

4. Sun and Mercury are in Aries and aspect Jupiter in Cancer.

Still my question remains whether there is VRY? This candidate lost a huge

amount from the year 1997 to 2002.This man is simha lagna and vrishabha rasi.I

feel that he will recoup the losses.

Your views are appreciated.

regards

Ananth"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > wrote:

Om Namah ShivayaDear Ananth, For simha lagna, jupiter is not only the 8th lord,

but also the 5th lord. The mantra sthanadhipati in 12th is not so good. And it

is not exactly a VRY, as there should be another planet, preferably the Ak, or

the lagna lord in 12th house or somehow associated with jupiter to get the

effects of VRY.Jupiter is not a functonal malefic for Leo lagna, Its moola

trikona is sagittarius, and hence it is a benefic. 8th lord may give debt or

disease, but it also promotes longevity. The planets who are the lords of 2nd ,

4th, 5th , 8th, 9th and 12th from the moolatrikona of a planet are its friends.

So jupiter is a very close friend of Sun whose moola trikona falls in

leo.regardsparthaom tat satvedic astrology,

Ananthakrishnan Parthasarathy

<akrishnan56> wrote:> Om Namao Narayanaya> Dear Sir> This is a fine

elucidation.I need one clarifcation from you. Say in a horoscope, the eighth

lord ,Jupiter, a benefic goes to twelfth and gets retrograde.Whether this is

called VRY?For this horoscope, the yogkaraka Mars in sixth place aspects the

twelfth house i.e the Jupiter.The Lagna is simha.Jupiter is atmakaraka and

also a Gandata.I find for this horoscope Jupiter is functionally malefic.>

regards> Ananthkrishnan Parthasarathy> Short name:Ananth> > "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:> Om Namah SHivaya> > Dear Matt> > 8th lord in 12th is a

vipareeta Raja Yoga, but it should associate > with either 6th lord or 12th

lord.> > Vipareeta Raja Yoga, is caused when Functional Malefics are weak by >

placement and thus facilitating the rise of the native by the

fall of > enemies.> > For example say 6th lord and 8th are lords are together

and are > placed in 12th house and also associated with lagna lord, or >

Atmakaraka, then there is sure to be rise for the native due to fall > of

others.> > There is a qualitative difference between Vipareeta Raja Yoga, and >

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga.> > In Vipareeta Raja yoga, friends or foes fall, and

the person rises.> > In NBRY, the person rises after falling to depths of

despair, and is > helped by a person, or he himself comes up trumps. If Goran >

Ivanisevic wins the wimbledon it is Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga,> > But if he wins

the same title, when the best players lose in first > round itself, then he

gets Vipareeta Raja Yoga.> > Yes sun could indicate either clerical, routine(if

weak) or Leadership> (if strong). And moon in 10th shows

fluctuations in job situation. > Ups andd downs are common, but fame is accrued

as he is the lagna > lord.> Please send the Details of the chart by mentioning

date of birth, > time of birth, place of birth, the co-ordinates of place of

birth and > also the Time zone.> warm regards> partha> om tat sat> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "cragmat" <cragmat3> > wrote:> > Dear

Partha,> > > > the yoga I was refering to is: 8th lord sitting in 12.> > i'm

just a beginner and dont know what this is.> > > > what does this combo

signify?> > particularly to the fact that the 8th lord holds the 7th also.> > >

> Also, when a planet X is combust, does Sun plays X's role?> > If so, can I

assume that for this chart sun rules the career?> > will that be a

leadership/civil-servent role?> > does the presence of moon in 10th make this

guy go into business?> > > > here are the planet positions for your ref:> > H2:

Sun,Ven H3: Mar,Mer H5: Rah H8: Jup H10: Moo H11:Ket H12:Sat> > > > --Matt> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"> >

<partvinu5> wrote:> > > Om Namah Shivaya> > > > > > Dear Matt> > > > > > I

am afraid you have to get the semantics right.> > > > > > Neecha-Debilitation,

debilitated> > > Bhanga-Cancellation> > > Raja Yoga- Kingdom> > > > > > Thus

NBRY will take place, when there is a cancellation for a > > > debilitated

planet.> > > > > > Lord of lagna in 10th house shows that the person would rise

>

through > > > personal efforts.> > > > > > 10th lord combust shows following the

path of sun, since sun is > 2nd > > > lord here, so he would follow the path of

family,or something > > > accetable to family. Exalted mercury adds strength to

this combo. > > > Mars and sun in 3rd house is generally a good combo.> > >

regards> > > partha> > > om tat sat> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "cragmat" <cragmat3> > > > wrote:> > > >

a dumb qn:> > > > what exactly does neechabhanga raja yoga signifies?> > > > >

> > > i've a chart with Asdt: Cancer, > > > > and lord of 7&8 Saturn is in 12th

house.> > > > is this a neecha bhanga raja yoga?> > > >

> > > > On a different note, in the same chart,> > > > what happens when lord of

Asdt is in 10th house > > > > and lord of tenth is combust and sitting in 3

along > > > > with the exalted mercury?> > > > > > > > --Matt> > > > > > > > >

> > > vedic astrology, JR <jr_esq> wrote:> > > > >

Shekhar,> > > > > > > > > > Your chart shows that your success in life> > > > >

(neechabhanga yogas) will be dependent on another> > > > > person, represented

by the Moon (signifying your> > > > > mother, education, wife, or selection of

the right> > > > > profession). This Moon is essentially the dispositor> > > >

> of your neechabhanga planets.> > >

> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > John R.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > --- kmkgkjks <shekhar_kc> wrote:> > > > > > Hi John,> > > > > > > >

> > > > Thanks for your mail. As Mars is Lagana's lords,> > > > > > what does it

mean by > > > > > > Neecha Bhanga for Mars?> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, as

Saturn being the Lord of 10 th (carrear)> > > > > > and 11th (gains) > > > > >

> house, what would be impact on my carrear? Do I have> > > > > > a bright

carrear?> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,> > > > > > shekhar.> > > >

> > > > > > > > - In vedic astrology, JR> > > > > >

<jr_esq> wrote:> > > > > > > Shekhar,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have

two neechabhanga raja yogas in Saturn and> > > > > > > Mars. The debilitation

of Venus is canceled due> > > > > > to> > > > > > > the association of an

exalted planet, Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should read BV Raman's

book on yogas. This> > > > > > book> > > > > > > explains the rationale for

cancellations of neecha> > > > > > > conditions in planets.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Also, James Braha's book defines this condition> > >

> > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > John

R.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- kmkgkjks <shekhar_kc> wrote:> > > > > > > > Hi,> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine is Mesha Lagna and Sani is in Lagna with> > >

> > > > > retrograde. It seems I > > > > > > > > have 3 plantes in Rasi are

debilated. Would you> > > > > > > > please clarify > > > > > > > > whether the

debility has removed and is there

in> > > > > > > > Raja yoga because of > > > > > > > > this?> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > 4th house : Kuja> > > > > > > > 5th house : Soorya,Guru> > > > > >

> > 6th house : Budha,ketu,Sukra> > > > > > > > 10th house : chandra> > > > > >

> > 12th house : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navamsakam:> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kanya is Lagnam and Sun is there in Lagna.> > > > > > > > 2nd

house : Guru> > > > > > > > 4th houe : Rahu> > > > > > > > 6th house : Kuja> >

> > > > > > 7th house : Sukra> > > > > > >

> 8th house : Sani & Budha> > > > > > > > 10th house : Ketu> > > > > > > > 11th

house : Moon> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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