auspicious/in auspicious grahas : final thoughts

November 29, 2003

OM NAMO SHIVAY

Dear Jayashree ji

Well, well and well... I was seriously looking and thinking about the

three charts sent by you (for last 40 mins) and suddenly I got

surprised + shocked to see this new email from you…

Well first of all I am quite aware of my responsibility here, which

you are trying to remind me that an astrologer should not just look

at negative points without looking at mitigating factors…I already

suggested in at least two emails that your should pray to

Venus/Goddess Lakshmi as per my vision, in order to find a solution

here. I cannot understand why you are thinking or taking all this

offensively. As far as I am concerned I have no intentions to hurt

anyone and I did try to find all factors genuinely connected to your

chart while focusing on the topic also: auspicious/inauspicious

effects. Also I have not at all denied the genuineness of Pushkara

Navamsha.. I said that it looks very genuine and the only thing is

that I do not have books about it..so that's my limitation here and I

am not in any denial here.

Also Isthaphala/Kasthaphala etc are not my theories…all these things

come from Sage Parasara only and his authority goes unchallenged in

vedic astrology…so if I am wrong completely then its all based upon

BPHS…rather it could be my limitation to understand parasara and so I

said today morning that the final formula is not clear even after

reading so many shlokas. I was going to type some of my own

interpretations regarding Isthaphala/Kasthaphala effects, but since

it looks that you are taking it seriously and offensively, so I will

immediately abandon this discussion right now. On second thoughts I

am taking a break from all these intensive vedic astrology

discussions for some/several days and will like to take it easy

now..so you can relax and this discussion is over now also from my

side.

Thanks and Regards

RMK

vedic astrology, "Jayashree"

<jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> Dear Rajesh ji,

>

> Having given references to some well-known charts with regards to

> your clarifications regarding the Kashtapala theory, I wish to add

> this here:

>

> You stated, " In the final view/prediction, the overall vision of

the

> astrologer is

> > also critical since after every known effect has been analysed

and

> > predicted, the net astrological effects/predictions are more than

> the

> > sum total of all computations and calculations put together."

>

> I fear that this discussion over my chart has a high potential to

> turn to unpleasant, given the list of presumed afflictions, etc, as

> discussed earlier. I would like to bring to your attention that

> earlier in this thread, you had QUANTITATIVELY analyzed my chart in

> terms of A6/A8, Kashtapala, AdhiShatru planets, Rasi Sandhi, etc.

Had

> it been someone else who knows little less about their own charts,

> your quantitative analysis might have put them in serious agony

over

> their own charts. A discussion cannot go on, when either party is

in

> denial that some factors are not dependable, inspite of quoting

> authentic sources for the same. Example: Web-site reference I had

> given for Pushkara Navamsa. If I remember right, I even saw

somewhere

> that JHL professional version automatically gives Pushkara Navamsa

> placements of planets.

>

> Due to the potential to harm while still in the process of

learning,

> I would like to point out to you that it might be neither wise nor

> befitting of an astrologer to try to point out afflictions alone,

> leaving out mitigating factors in a chart.

>

> That was something I wish to add conclusively in this thread and

wish

> to add nomore in this thread/discussion. Hopefully my points raised

> here are understood.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Jayashree

>

> vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > Dear Jayashree ji

> > Many Thanks for getting info. reagrding pushkara navamasa

(although

> I

> > am still searching references to this in various books and got

none

> > sofar; but I think that it must be genuine) and also Mrityu Bhaga

> > degrees which can be confirmed to some extent. I read several

> shlokas

> > regarding Shadbala Strengths and IsthaPhala & Kasthaphala

> > computations in BPHS...all I understand is that they are all very

> > closely related although the exact formula for auspicious and

> > inauspicious strengths and effects could not be understood by me,

> due

> > to complex english translations in the BPHS(G.S.SHARMA). Also

there

> > are too many shlokas involved here.

> >

> > Also house ownership(exaltation, mooltrikona, own house, equal

> house,

> > enemy house, exteme enemy house etc) and other

> > relationships/strengths have to be considered before reaching a

> final

> > decision on any thing involving aplanet or a house...so while

you

> > may be right regarding 9th Bhava effects of your natal Venus, yet

> > that is only one part of the picture/prediction. There is no

clear

> > indication that bhava results can over-rule

Isthaphala/Kasthaphala

> > etc., Also I did not really mean planetary war but a general war

> due

> > to conjunction effects of your natal Jupiter and Venus..again all

> > computations and considerations have to be done before reaching a

> > final prediction in such a scenario also.

> >

> > In the final view/prediction, the overall vision of the

astrologer

> is

> > also critical since after every known effect has been analysed

and

> > predicted, the net astrological effects/predictions are more than

> the

> > sum total of all computations and calculations put together.

> >

> > (its like a 3-dimensional dynamic effect in progress everywhere,

> > which includes the static and dynamic worlds..humourously

speaking

> we

> > are trying to analyse a huge 3-dimensional beast whose

> > characteristics are changing continuously and who really deals

with

> > Gods!!! and our vision is limited by several factors including

Desh

> > (country), Kaal(time) and Patra(people))...

> >

> > ... anyway, I really appreciate your efforts and input. All the

best

> > Thanks and Regards

> > RMK

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Jayashree"

> > <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > >

> > > This is what I learnt from Jai Balagopal ji regarding Pushkara

> > > Navamsa - As stated by him:

> > >

> > > "From what i know, every sign (30deg) has two auspicious

navamsas

> > > (pushkara navamsas) and one aupicious degree called puskhara

> bhaga

> > > (also there is a set of inaupicious degrees called mrityu

bhaga -

> > > depends on the sign and planet). Anyway, these puskhara

navamsas

> > are

> > > owned only by the benefics (Jup, Ven, Mer, Moo) and give

> auspicious

> > > results (even more so for planets situated in pushkara

bhagaas).

> > Here

> > > is a link that gives you the different puskhara

navamsas/bhagas.

> > >

> > > http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/gamjuly14.html"

> > >

> > > I checked the above site and pushkara Navamsa seems to be a

> > fortunate

> > > planetary position in the Navamsa, capable to overriding the

> > effects

> > > of rasi sandhi, etc.

> > >

> > > Also, it is said a planet gives result as of its bhava

placement

> > > during its own dasha, and Venus in my chart is placed in 9th

> bhava

> > > and there he is not in bhava Sandhi, he is fully in 9th bhava.

> > That's

> > > the reason I think Venus's placement in A6 might trouble now,

but

> > not

> > > during Venus's dasha as Venus then gives bhava results. Also,

> > > vargottam planets are said to do good irrespective of kashta-

> pala,

> > > and Jupiter is Vargottama, aspected by Shani lagnesh.

> > >

> > > Due to the above reasons, I feel Venus dasha will be good for

> > overall

> > > well-being and job prospects. But more than all these, why I

feel

> > > strongly so is because, I had a strange nice dream which Shri

> > Ramadas

> > > Rao ji kindly interpreted for me, and quite amazingly he

> pinpointed

> > > something, ie me getting some specific mantras from an

unexpected

> > > source before the dream which is a very rare and wonderful

> > experience

> > > that kindled some kind of revelation on me.

> > >

> > > Also, doesn't the mutual aspect of lagnesh and 9th lord produce

a

> > > raja-lakshmi yoga?

> > >

> > > I agree with all the A8/A6 parts, but Jupiter and Venus are so

> far

> > > apart in my chart (almost 15 degrees) that they cannot be too

> > bitter

> > > rivals (no planetary war). And regarding A8/A6 and Jupiter/Mars

> > > placed/lording over it, I think the Navamsa placement of Mars

as

> > lord

> > > of A5 in A5 with Jupiter overrides this blemish largely...

(Since

> > > many people look at rasi's 10th lord placement in Navamsa to be

a

> > > weighty factor to determine career results). Also, inspite of

> > > Mercury's ishta-pala, his functional nature was 8th lord (Mool-

> > > trikona) as well as my AK, but Venus is lord of 4 and 9, so

> > > functional benefic.

> > >

> > > These are my reasonings, now I have to take to the wonderful

> > guidance

> > > Shri Ramadas Rao ji and Shri Sudharsan ji have given me

regarding

> > > mantras and my ishta-devata, and as you too rightly said,

praying

> > to

> > > goddess Lakshmi, and with that, I'm quite confident.

> > >

> > > Rajesh ji, it has been a pleasure discussing and learning from

> you.

> > > Please give me any corrections or insight that you might see

> > further.

> > > Thanks very much for your willingness to discuss the same with

me.

> > >

> > > With warm regards,

> > >

> > > Jayashree

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > Dear Jayashree ji

> > > > Well you have done a good analysis and got me thinking …let

us

> > take

> > > > things one by one..please note that we are all learning here

> and

> > my

> > > > viewpoints are not an imposition on anyone…Predictions are

> based

> > on

> > > > interpretations only…When you say that Venus is in pushkara

> > navamsa

> > > > (assuming this navamsa is favourable and ignoring rashi

sandhi

> > etc)

> > > > and everything is fine with married life due to the position

of

> > > Venus

> > > > in Navamsa, I agree with you…(I used the new time of 14:32)

> > > >

> > > > So let's just focus on the forces involved around your tenth

> > house

> > > in

> > > > Rashi charka…Just saw that Rashi chakra also contains A8

> > > > (Mrityupada/Kashtapada) and A6(roga pada /shatru pada), along

> > with

> > > > jupiter and venus..you are right that both jupiter and venus

> are

> > > very

> > > > strong in Shadbala Strengths. So that means that both the

> enemies

> > > are

> > > > equally strong. When we look at IsthaPhala (benefic tendency)

> and

> > > > Kashtaphala(malefic tendency) figures, Venus has more

> Kashtaphala

> > > > than Isthaphala(48.77 vs 11.23) and so has Jupiter(45.73 vs

> > 14.00).

> > > > So both the adhishatru planets have tendency to hurt you and

> both

> > > are

> > > > placed in 10th house of career affairs. Mercury on the other

> hand

> > > has

> > > > a benfic tendency(28.52 vs 24.55), so mercury period was good

> for

> > > > your career, since mahadasa lord always controls the major

> > effects

> > > of

> > > > its dasa. Now Ketu is also another 10th Lord along with Mars,

> who

> > > is

> > > > being considered as stronger 10th Lord(still finding out

> > why)..Mars

> > > > has a overall benefic tendency(49.34 vs 5.72).. so my point

is

> > that

> > > > during Mercury dasa you had two strong planets working in

your

> > > > favour, mars and mercury..when you reached ketu dasa, mercury

> was

> > > no

> > > > longer there and replaced by Ketu placed in 6th house from

Lagna

> (

> > > not

> > > > a good position certainly) and got entangled in the Venus-

> Jupiter

> > > war

> > > > in 10th house.

> > > >

> > > > Mars helps career, but is also the Lord of A8 and A6(which

> cause

> > > > pain). On the other hand Ketu is also co-lord of A8 and A6.

So

> > > Mars

> > > > and Ketu are in yet another conflict here…obviously Ketu

> prevails

> > > > since it is his mahadasa here, so looks like unfortunately

Mars

> > has

> > > > lost control due to this Venus-Jupiter and Ketu's offensive

> > battles

> > > > and Ketu dominates currently…continuing on similar lines, if

> > Venus

> > > is

> > > > strengthened by mantras, then only it can help to win this

war

> > > going

> > > > on in 10th house(Ketu dasa or Venus Mahadasa)… Also Dasamasa

> > > effects

> > > > should be analysed separately, but they cannot easily ride

over

> > > > Rashi's effects here. Saturn cannot help much by similar logic

> > > (19.26

> > > > vs 20.98)… So in a certain way, you are right that Ketu is

also

> > to

> > > be

> > > > blamed, but the major effects are still controlled by Venus-

> > Jupiter

> > > > and Mars.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > RMK

> > > >

> > > > -----------------------------

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> --

> > --

> > > > These calculations were made using the free "Jagannatha Hora

> > Lite"

> > > > software, which can be downloaded from the website of its

> author

> > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from the

> > website

> > > > of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org).

> > > > -----------------------------

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> > --

> > > >

> > > > jayshree_new

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > October 31, 1971

> > > > Time: 14:32:00

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"

> > > > Madras, India

> > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > >

> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Virodha-krit - Karthika

> > > > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (97.23% left)

> > > > Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> > > > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (63.85% left)

> > > > Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve)

> > > > Karana: Kaulava (Ma)

> > > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Pi)

> > > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)

> > > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)

> > > >

> > > > Sunrise: 6:04:34

> > > > Sunset: 17:40:14

> > > > Janma Ghatis: 21.1430

> > > >

> > > > Ayanamsa: 23-28-02.13

> > > > Sidereal Time: 16:59:12

> > > >

> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> > > >

> > > > Lagna 18 Aq 14' 02.64" Sata 4 Aq Pi

> > > > Sun - BK 13 Li 49' 16.73" Swat 3 Li Aq

> > > > Moon - PK 8 Pi 09' 13.44" UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > > > Mars - GK 3 Aq 23' 28.65" Dhan 4 Aq Sc

> > > > Mercury - AK 27 Li 49' 20.48" Visa 3 Li Ge

> > > > Jupiter - AmK 15 Sc 13' 26.71" Anu 4 Sc Sc

> > > > Venus - DK 0 Sc 45' 28.94" Visa 4 Sc Cn

> > > > Saturn ® - PiK 11 Ta 31' 45.53" Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > > > Rahu - MK 16 Cp 25' 42.52" Srav 2 Cp Ta

> > > > Ketu 16 Cn 25' 42.52" Push 4 Cn Sc

> > > > Maandi 5 Pi 40' 16.97" UBha 1 Pi Le

> > > > Gulika 22 Aq 30' 59.46" PBha 1 Aq Ar

> > > > Bhava Lagna 20 Aq 19' 36.82" PBha 1 Aq Ar

> > > > Hora Lagna 27 Ge 11' 04.88" Puna 3 Ge Ge

> > > > Ghati Lagna 17 Cn 45' 29.04" Asre 1 Cn Sg

> > > > Vighati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 29.84" Visa 4 Sc Cn

> > > > Varnada Lagna 15 Ta 25' 07.52" Rohi 2 Ta Ta

> > > > Sree Lagna 28 Ge 23' 05.40" Puna 3 Ge Ge

> > > > Dhooma 27 Aq 09' 16.73" PBha 3 Aq Ge

> > > > Vyatipata 2 Ta 50' 43.27" Krit 2 Ta Cp

> > > > Parivesha 2 Sc 50' 43.27" Visa 4 Sc Cn

> > > > Indra Chapa 27 Le 09' 16.73" UPha 1 Le Sg

> > > > Upaketu 13 Vi 49' 16.73" Hast 2 Vi Ta

> > > > Kaala 23 Li 26' 47.67" Visa 2 Li Ta

> > > > Mrityu 3 Sg 09' 20.95" Mool 1 Sg Ar

> > > > Artha Prahara 23 Sg 30' 30.16" PSha 4 Sg Sc

> > > > Yama Ghantaka 15 Cp 27' 09.49" Srav 2 Cp Ta

> > > >

> > > > Planet Chara Karakatwa Meaning

> > > >

> > > > Sun BK Brother (associate)

> > > > Moon PK Son (follower)

> > > > Mars GK Cousin (rival)

> > > > Mercury AK Self

> > > > Jupiter AmK Minister (advisor)

> > > > Venus DK Spouse (partner)

> > > > Saturn PiK Father (authority)

> > > > Rahu MK Mother (nourisher)

> > > >

> > > > Ashtakavarga of Rasi Chart:

> > > >

> > > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi

> > > > As 3 4 1 7 5 2 2 5 6 4 5* 5

> > > > Su 4 6 3 4 5 3 3* 4 5 4 3 4

> > > > Mo 4 5 2 6 5 4 2 4 6 3 3 5*

> > > > Ma 3 3 1 2 6 3 2 3 5 2 5* 4

> > > > Me 2 3 6 3 5 6 4* 4 6 3 6 6

> > > > Ju 4 4 4 6 6 5 4 6* 5 4 4 4

> > > > Ve 3 4 5 5 5 5 3 2* 5 4 5 6

> > > > Sa 5 4* 2 5 3 4 4 3 2 3 1 3

> > > >

> > > > Sodhya Pinda Rasi Pinda Graha Pinda

> > > > As 178 126 52

> > > > Su 69 54 15

> > > > Mo 98 75 23

> > > > Ma 202 128 74

> > > > Me 197 149 48

> > > > Ju 92 58 34

> > > > Ve 151 115 36

> > > > Sa 105 70 35

> > > >

> > > > Planet Shadbala In rupas % Strength IshtaPhala KashtaPhala

> > > >

> > > > Sun 399.09 6.65 133.03 4.75 49.83

> > > > Moon 371.08 6.18 103.08 44.80 14.74

> > > > Mars 424.41 7.07 141.47 49.34 5.72

> > > > Mercury 439.53 7.33 104.65 28.52 24.55

> > > > Jupiter 437.33 7.29 112.13 14.00 45.73

> > > > Venus 448.14 7.47 135.80 11.23 48.77

> > > > Saturn 339.40 5.66 113.13 19.26 20.98

> > > >

> > > > Rasi

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Md / \ / |

> > > > | \ Mo / \ Ra / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ Gk / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 11 / Ve \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | SaR x Ju |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |HL x x Me Su |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ke \ / \ |

> > > > | / GL \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Navamsa

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Gk / \ / |

> > > > | \ SaR / \ Su / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ra x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / HL \ 12 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Me x GL |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / Ke |

> > > > |Ve AL x Mo x Ju Ma |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Md \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Hora D-2

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Md / \ / |

> > > > | \ Mo / \ Ma / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / GL |

> > > > | x As x Ke Ra |

> > > > | / \ / \ AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 10 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Su x |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Me x Ju x HL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ve \ / \ |

> > > > | / SaR \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Drekkana D-3

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ Ra / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Me \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 3 / Ju \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | SaR x AL Mo |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ Md / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / HL |

> > > > |Gk x x Ma Su |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ve \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ke GL \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Chaturthamsa D-4

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ Ra / |

> > > > | \ / \ Me / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / SaR \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x AL Mo |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Gk \ 5 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Ve x Ju |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x Ma x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Su \ / HL \ |

> > > > | / Ke GL \ / Md \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Panchamsa D-5

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ Md / |

> > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x Ma |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / SaR \ 3 / Ra \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Mo x GL Ju |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ Ke / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Me HL x Su x AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Shashthamsa D-6

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ Gk / \ Su / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Me HL x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 4 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Ve x Ma |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ra \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Mo Md x GL Ju x AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ Ke / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / SaR \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Saptamsa D-7

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ GL / |

> > > > | \ Gk / \ Ve / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ju x As x Ke Me |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 3 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | x |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Md \ / \ / |

> > > > |Mo Ra x HL x AL Ma |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / Su \ |

> > > > | / \ / SaR \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Ashtamsa D-8

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ HL / |

> > > > | \ / \ SaR / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ju \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Gk x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 1 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Su x |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |GL \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ra Ke x Mo x Ve Ma |

> > > > |AL / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Md \ / Me \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Dasamsa D-10

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > | \ Gk / \ Me / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ke \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ GL / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 5 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | x AL |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ra \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ju Md x Su x SaR |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Mo \ / Ma \ |

> > > > | / \ / HL \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Rudramsa D-11

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ Ra / \ HL / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ju Gk x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 9 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Su x Ve |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |AL x x Me |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / Ke GL \ |

> > > > | / \ / Md Mo \ |

> > > > | / \ / Ma SaR \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Dwadasamsa D-12

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Me \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ve Gk x As x Ra |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ SaR / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 6 / AL \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | x Mo |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ke x Su x Md Ju |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / GL \ / HL \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Shodasamsa D-16

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ Ju / |

> > > > | \ Me / \ Mo / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x Md |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Gk \ 2 / HL \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Ve x SaR |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ AL / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ma x Su x GL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / Ra \ |

> > > > | / \ / Ke \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Vimsamsa D-20

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Mo / \ / |

> > > > | \ Su / \ Md / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ve \ / |

> > > > |Ke \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ma Ra x As x Ju Me |

> > > > |HL / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Gk \ 9 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | GL x |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x x AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / SaR \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Siddhamsa D-24

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ Md / \ GL / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x Ke Ra |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / AL \ 7 / Ju \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Mo x Su |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Gk x SaR x Me |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / HL \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Nakshatramsa D-27

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > | \ Ke / \ Ma / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Ju \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |GL x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / AL \ 11 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | SaR x Me |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Md Gk x Mo x HL Su |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ / Ra \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Trimsamsa D-30

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | x As x Ma |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / SaR \ 3 / Ra \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Mo x GL Ju |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ Md / \ Ke / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Me HL x Su x AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Khavedamsa D-40

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Md / \ / |

> > > > | \ Me / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / HL \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ju x As x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ke \ 1 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Ra x SaR |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Mo Ma x Su x AL |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / GL \ / Ve \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Akshavedamsa D-45

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ Mo / \ / |

> > > > | \ Su / \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |Ma SaR x As x Ve Me |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / \ 8 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | x Md |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |AL x Gk x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ra \ / Ju \ |

> > > > | / Ke HL \ / GL \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Shashtyamsa D-60

> > > > +--------------+

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ Ke / \ Su / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > | \ / Md \ / |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |SaR x As x HL Ve |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Ju \ 11 / \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | Me x Gk |

> > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > |GL AL x Ma x |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > | / Mo \ / Ra \ |

> > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > +--------------+

> > > >

> > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> > > >

> > > > Sat Sat 1964-12-17 Mer 1967-12-21 Ket 1970-08-30

> > > > Ven 1971-10-09 Sun 1974-12-09 Moo 1975-11-21

> > > > Mar 1977-06-21 Rah 1978-07-31 Jup 1981-06-06

> > > > Mer Mer 1983-12-18 Ket 1986-05-15 Ven 1987-05-13

> > > > Sun 1990-03-13 Moo 1991-01-17 Mar 1992-06-17

> > > > Rah 1993-06-15 Jup 1996-01-02 Sat 1998-04-09

> > > > Ket Ket 2000-12-17 Ven 2001-05-15 Sun 2002-07-15

> > > > Moo 2002-11-20 Mar 2003-06-21 Rah 2003-11-17

> > > > Jup 2004-12-05 Sat 2005-11-11 Mer 2006-12-20

> > > > Ven Ven 2007-12-18 Sun 2011-04-18 Moo 2012-04-17

> > > > Mar 2013-12-17 Rah 2015-02-16 Jup 2018-02-16

> > > > Sat 2020-10-17 Mer 2023-12-18 Ket 2026-10-17

> > > > Sun Sun 2027-12-18 Moo 2028-04-05 Mar 2028-10-05

> > > > Rah 2029-02-10 Jup 2030-01-04 Sat 2030-10-23

> > > > Mer 2031-10-05 Ket 2032-08-11 Ven 2032-12-17

> > > > Moo Moo 2033-12-17 Mar 2034-10-17 Rah 2035-05-18

> > > > Jup 2036-11-16 Sat 2038-03-18 Mer 2039-10-18

> > > > Ket 2041-03-18 Ven 2041-10-17 Sun 2043-06-18

> > > > Mar Mar 2043-12-17 Rah 2044-05-15 Jup 2045-06-02

> > > > Sat 2046-05-09 Mer 2047-06-18 Ket 2048-06-14

> > > > Ven 2048-11-10 Sun 2050-01-10 Moo 2050-05-18

> > > > Rah Rah 2050-12-17 Jup 2053-08-29 Sat 2056-01-23

> > > > Mer 2058-11-29 Ket 2061-06-17 Ven 2062-07-06

> > > > Sun 2065-07-05 Moo 2066-05-30 Mar 2067-11-29

> > > > Jup Jup 2068-12-16 Sat 2071-02-04 Mer 2073-08-17

> > > > Ket 2075-11-23 Ven 2076-10-29 Sun 2079-06-30

> > > > Moo 2080-04-17 Mar 2081-08-17 Rah 2082-07-24

> > > >

> > > > Ashtottari Dasa (controversial nakshatra dasa):

> > > >

> > > > Rah Ven 1970-09-30 Sun 1973-01-29 Moo 1973-09-30

> > > > Mar 1975-05-31 Mer 1976-04-20 Sat 1978-03-11

> > > > Jup 1979-04-21 Rah 1981-05-31

> > > > Ven Sun 1982-09-30 Moo 1983-11-30 Mar 1986-10-30

> > > > Mer 1988-05-20 Sat 1991-09-10 Jup 1993-08-20

> > > > Rah 1997-04-30 Ven 1999-08-31

> > > > Sun Moo 2003-09-30 Mar 2004-07-30 Mer 2005-01-09

> > > > Sat 2005-12-20 Jup 2006-07-11 Rah 2007-07-31

> > > > Ven 2008-03-31 Sun 2009-05-31

> > > > Moo Mar 2009-09-29 Mer 2010-11-09 Sat 2013-03-21

> > > > Jup 2014-08-10 Rah 2017-03-31 Ven 2018-11-29

> > > > Sun 2021-10-30 Moo 2022-08-30

> > > > Mar Mer 2024-09-29 Sat 2026-01-02 Jup 2026-09-30

> > > > Rah 2028-02-26 Ven 2029-01-15 Sun 2030-08-06

> > > > Moo 2031-01-16 Mar 2032-02-26

> > > > Mer Sat 2032-09-29 Jup 2034-04-27 Rah 2037-04-23

> > > > Ven 2039-03-14 Sun 2042-07-03 Moo 2043-06-13

> > > > Mar 2045-10-23 Mer 2047-01-26

> > > > Sat Jup 2049-09-29 Rah 2051-07-04 Ven 2052-08-13

> > > > Sun 2054-07-24 Moo 2055-02-12 Mar 2056-07-03

> > > > Mer 2057-03-30 Sat 2058-10-26

> > > > Jup Rah 2059-09-30 Ven 2061-11-09 Sun 2065-07-20

> > > > Moo 2066-08-10 Mar 2069-03-30 Mer 2070-08-26

> > > > Sat 2073-08-23 Jup 2075-05-27

> > > >

> > > > Kalachakra Dasa (Savya group, Paramayush = 97 years):

> > > >

> > > > Ta Ta 1958-11-29 Ge 1961-07-20 Cn 1963-01-13

> > > > Le 1966-07-01 Vi 1967-04-29 Li 1968-10-22

> > > > Sc 1971-06-13 Sg 1972-08-08 Cp 1974-04-02

> > > > Ge Ge 1974-11-29 Cn 1975-11-12 Le 1978-02-01

> > > > Vi 1978-08-14 Li 1979-07-28 Sc 1981-04-06

> > > > Sg 1982-01-02 Cp 1983-01-24 Aq 1983-06-27

> > > > Cn Cn 1983-11-29 Le 1989-01-14 Vi 1990-04-05

> > > > Li 1992-06-16 Sc 1996-05-13 Sg 1998-01-27

> > > > Cp 2000-07-07 Aq 2001-06-29 Pi 2002-06-20

> > > > Le Le 2004-11-28 Vi 2005-04-04 Li 2005-11-18

> > > > Sc 2006-12-29 Sg 2007-06-25 Cp 2008-03-04

> > > > Aq 2008-06-14 Pi 2008-09-23 Sc 2009-06-04

> > > > Vi Vi 2009-11-28 Li 2010-11-20 Sc 2012-08-15

> > > > Sg 2013-05-19 Cp 2014-06-19 Aq 2014-11-24

> > > > Pi 2015-05-02 Sc 2016-06-01 Li 2017-03-05

> > > > Li Li 2018-11-29 Sc 2021-12-29 Sg 2023-05-06

> > > > Cp 2025-04-09 Aq 2026-01-16 Pi 2026-10-24

> > > > Sc 2028-09-27 Li 2030-02-02 Vi 2033-03-05

> > > > Sc Sc 2034-11-29 Sg 2035-06-20 Cp 2036-04-05

> > > > Aq 2036-07-31 Pi 2036-11-24 Sc 2037-09-10

> > > > Li 2038-04-02 Vi 2039-07-11 Cn 2040-03-28

> > > > Sg Sg 2041-11-28 Cp 2043-01-27 Aq 2043-07-16

> > > > Pi 2044-01-02 Sc 2045-03-01 Li 2045-12-24

> > > > Vi 2047-11-03 Cn 2048-11-19 Le 2051-04-30

> > > > Cp Cp 2051-11-29 Aq 2052-02-05 Pi 2052-04-14

> > > > Sc 2052-10-03 Li 2053-01-31 Vi 2053-11-02

> > > > Cn 2054-04-06 Le 2055-04-02 Ge 2055-06-27

> > > >

> > > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> > > >

> > > > Aq Cp 1971-10-31 Sg 1971-12-01 Sc 1971-12-31

> > > > Li 1972-01-30 Vi 1972-03-01 Le 1972-03-31

> > > > Cn 1972-05-01 Ge 1972-05-31 Ta 1972-07-01

> > > > Ar 1972-07-31 Pi 1972-08-30 Aq 1972-09-30

> > > > Cn Ta 1972-10-30 Ar 1973-03-01 Pi 1973-07-01

> > > > Aq 1973-10-31 Cp 1974-03-01 Sg 1974-07-01

> > > > Sc 1974-10-31 Li 1975-03-02 Vi 1975-07-01

> > > > Le 1975-10-31 Cn 1976-03-01 Ge 1976-07-01

> > > > Sg Sc 1976-10-30 Li 1977-09-30 Vi 1978-08-31

> > > > Le 1979-08-01 Cn 1980-07-01 Ge 1981-05-31

> > > > Ta 1982-05-01 Ar 1983-04-01 Pi 1984-03-01

> > > > Aq 1985-01-30 Cp 1985-12-30 Sg 1986-11-30

> > > > Ta Aq 1987-10-31 Pi 1988-05-01 Ar 1988-10-30

> > > > Ta 1989-05-01 Ge 1989-10-30 Cn 1990-05-01

> > > > Le 1990-10-31 Vi 1991-05-01 Li 1991-10-31

> > > > Sc 1992-05-01 Sg 1992-10-30 Cp 1993-05-01

> > > > Li Sc 1993-10-30 Li 1993-11-30 Vi 1993-12-30

> > > > Le 1994-01-30 Cn 1994-03-01 Ge 1994-04-01

> > > > Ta 1994-05-01 Ar 1994-05-31 Pi 1994-07-01

> > > > Aq 1994-07-31 Cp 1994-08-31 Sg 1994-09-30

> > > > Pi Sc 1994-10-31 Li 1995-03-01 Vi 1995-07-01

> > > > Le 1995-10-31 Cn 1996-03-01 Ge 1996-06-30

> > > > Ta 1996-10-30 Ar 1997-03-01 Pi 1997-07-01

> > > > Aq 1997-10-30 Cp 1998-03-01 Sg 1998-07-01

> > > > Le Cp 1998-10-31 Sg 1999-08-01 Sc 2000-05-01

> > > > Li 2001-01-29 Vi 2001-10-30 Le 2002-07-31

> > > > Cn 2003-05-01 Ge 2004-01-30 Ta 2004-10-30

> > > > Ar 2005-07-31 Pi 2006-05-01 Aq 2007-01-30

> > > > Cp Ta 2007-10-31 Ar 2008-06-30 Pi 2009-03-01

> > > > Aq 2009-10-30 Cp 2010-07-01 Sg 2011-03-01

> > > > Sc 2011-10-31 Li 2012-06-30 Vi 2013-03-01

> > > > Le 2013-10-30 Cn 2014-07-01 Ge 2015-03-01

> > > > Ge Sc 2015-10-31 Li 2016-03-01 Vi 2016-06-30

> > > > Le 2016-10-30 Cn 2017-03-01 Ge 2017-07-01

> > > > Ta 2017-10-30 Ar 2018-03-01 Pi 2018-07-01

> > > > Aq 2018-10-31 Cp 2019-03-01 Sg 2019-07-01

> > > > Sc Aq 2019-10-31 Pi 2020-01-30 Ar 2020-04-30

> > > > Ta 2020-07-31 Ge 2020-10-30 Cn 2021-01-29

> > > > Le 2021-05-01 Vi 2021-07-31 Li 2021-10-30

> > > > Sc 2022-01-30 Sg 2022-05-01 Cp 2022-07-31

> > > > Ar Sc 2022-10-30 Li 2023-08-31 Vi 2024-06-30

> > > > Le 2025-05-01 Cn 2026-03-01 Ge 2026-12-30

> > > > Ta 2027-10-31 Ar 2028-08-30 Pi 2029-06-30

> > > > Aq 2030-05-01 Cp 2031-03-01 Sg 2031-12-31

> > > > Vi Sc 2032-10-30 Li 2033-09-30 Vi 2034-08-31

> > > > Le 2035-07-31 Cn 2036-06-30 Ge 2037-05-31

> > > > Ta 2038-05-01 Ar 2039-04-01 Pi 2040-02-29

> > > > Aq 2041-01-29 Cp 2041-12-30 Sg 2042-11-30

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Jayashree"

> > > > <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear RMK ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, to say honestly, I have heard of some different

> > viewpoints.

> > > > For

> > > > > example, Saturn is also my Pitrukarak and 12th lord and

thus

> > > > Saturn's

> > > > > placement in 4 deprives happiness from mother and

motherland.

> > And

> > > > as

> > > > > you can clearly see in my D-12, Mercury is afflicted by

> Saturn

> > > and

> > > > > Sun is also with 8th lord Mars in mutual aspect with

> > > > Mercury/Saturn,

> > > > > and in Rasi 9th house, Mercury the AK is stationed with

> > > debilitated

> > > > > Sun. These might have more some profound significance, I

> think,

> > > as

> > > > > Venus is also my Darakarak, and Venus has given wonderful

> > results

> > > > > with respect to marriage. Shouldn't it be that marriage

would

> > be

> > > > > bothersome if Venus was placed bad, since he is the

> > sthirakaraka

> > > as

> > > > > well as my darakaraka? You might see that in Navamsa, Venus

> is

> > in

> > > a

> > > > > trine and in natural benefic Moon's house, which is 9 to

> > Venus's

> > > > own

> > > > > rasi placement. Further I think Saturn's aspect on Jupiter

> and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > makes them behave well to each other. Regarding job, during

> > > Mercury

> > > > > dasha I had no problems, whether the job is of my liking or

> > not,

> > > I

> > > > > was well-paid and the designation was good. You might note

I

> > got

> > > my

> > > > > first job during Mercury/Jupiter/Venus (June 16th 1997).

> Also,

> > I

> > > > came

> > > > > to know recently about Pushkara Navamsa (ie for Scorpio

rasi,

> > > > > pushkara Navamsa is first 2 degrees of Cancer) and Venus is

> > > placed

> > > > in

> > > > > Pushkara Navamsa. When there are afflictions in other

areas,

> > such

> > > > as

> > > > > PiK and 12th lord Saturn in 4, etc. they have to run their

> > > course,

> > > > I

> > > > > think. I really don't know much about the job thing, as to

> what

> > > > might

> > > > > be the cause for break in career, but I don't know how many

> > > people

> > > > > consider aspects, but you might also see that Ketu aspects

or

> > > > > afflicts my natal 10th house and this could also be a

reason.

> > > Also,

> > > > > you might note, my natal 10th lord Mars is 6/8 to Ketu in

> both

> > > Rasi

> > > > > and Dasamsa. This makes me wonder if Ketu is the culprit,

> > > > especially

> > > > > since the break happened exactly at the start of Ketu's

dasha

> > and

> > > > > maybe awaits the drive of another retro planet's bhukti

like

> > Rahu

> > > > or

> > > > > Saturn, I don't know the reasoning. Due to pushkara

navamsa,

> > and

> > > > > Venus being in Kendra in rasi aspected by Lagnesh, and

being

> > > placed

> > > > > in trine in Navamsa, somehow I cannot think Venus is still

> > weak -

> > > > > since Venus also has very good shadbala, even more than

> Jupiter.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Sudharsan ji has given me my ishta devata mantra and

my

> > > ishta

> > > > > devata is Varaha Murthy with Lakshmi. Also, some people

say,

> > that

> > > > > when there are a few afflictions in the chart, it might

> trouble

> > > > > initially, but the blessings of god is also there for the

> > > > afflictions

> > > > > to be mitigated, which is when a native strongly feels

> > motivated

> > > to

> > > > > pray to his/her ishta - maybe the Navamsa can map this kind

> of

> > > > > blessing. I'm a quite spiritual person and reason every

> action

> > of

> > > > > mine to see if it is spiritually right, etc. and I think it

> is

> > > > > blessing of my 9th lord Venus, so I await good times to

come

> > by,

> > > > > especially during Venus mahadasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS: One correction to my timing, it is 2:32 PM and not 2:26

> PM

> > > > which

> > > > > was given earlier.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks again,

> > > > >

> > > > > Jayashree

> > > > >

November 30, 2003

Dear Rajesh Kumar Ji and Jayashree Ji

Sorry for me to interfere here.

Your analysis were very informative and the criticisms and opinions

were very constructive from both the sides.

The problem is analysis and Predictions are not that easy.You could

observe these from the diffrence in opinion among Gurus themselves.

We have so many experienced astrologers here.With the help of them

we should do some research.Take the horoscopes of 100 people whom we

know(The sample should be representative).Past should be known in

most of the cases and future predictions should be done for 5 years

in ahead.Wait and study those.Identify how it worked.I know this

wont be simple.

Because there are lots of things to be considered.If we put these

Ishta,Kashta,Sun,Moon principles blindly - we end up in criticising

ourselves and even might lose faith.But that should not be the

case,it is not the fault with astrology.It is how we understand.As a

beginner i cant write more.

But as Jayashree ji has mentioned for eg see Aishwarya Rays

chart.Sun is extremely weak in Shadbala as well as

Panchavargeeya.Sun is debilitated in Navamsha.Thus for the

initiation of a Raja Yoga sun would had been incapable.But infact

initiation happened.Either the birth data is incorrect or else we

have to think in other lines.But Kashta and Ishta - Though she

enjoys popularity we really dont know what kind of sufferings she

personally has .Hence we cannot really conclude.Same the case with

Gates and Kennedy.Popularity and success is one thing but!

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> OM NAMO SHIVAY

> Dear Jayashree ji

>

> Well, well and well... I was seriously looking and thinking about

the

> three charts sent by you (for last 40 mins) and suddenly I got

> surprised + shocked to see this new email from you…

>

> Well first of all I am quite aware of my responsibility here,

which

> you are trying to remind me that an astrologer should not just

look

> at negative points without looking at mitigating factors…I already

> suggested in at least two emails that your should pray to

> Venus/Goddess Lakshmi as per my vision, in order to find a

solution

> here. I cannot understand why you are thinking or taking all this

> offensively. As far as I am concerned I have no intentions to hurt

> anyone and I did try to find all factors genuinely connected to

your

> chart while focusing on the topic also: auspicious/inauspicious

> effects. Also I have not at all denied the genuineness of Pushkara

> Navamsha.. I said that it looks very genuine and the only thing is

> that I do not have books about it..so that's my limitation here

and I

> am not in any denial here.

>

> Also Isthaphala/Kasthaphala etc are not my theories…all these

things

> come from Sage Parasara only and his authority goes unchallenged

in

> vedic astrology…so if I am wrong completely then its all based

upon

> BPHS…rather it could be my limitation to understand parasara and

so I

> said today morning that the final formula is not clear even after

> reading so many shlokas. I was going to type some of my own

> interpretations regarding Isthaphala/Kasthaphala effects, but

since

> it looks that you are taking it seriously and offensively, so I

will

> immediately abandon this discussion right now. On second thoughts

I

> am taking a break from all these intensive vedic astrology

> discussions for some/several days and will like to take it easy

> now..so you can relax and this discussion is over now also from my

> side.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> RMK

>

> vedic astrology, "Jayashree"

> <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Rajesh ji,

> >

> > Having given references to some well-known charts with regards

to

> > your clarifications regarding the Kashtapala theory, I wish to

add

> > this here:

> >

> > You stated, " In the final view/prediction, the overall vision

of

> the

> > astrologer is

> > > also critical since after every known effect has been

analysed

> and

> > > predicted, the net astrological effects/predictions are more

than

> > the

> > > sum total of all computations and calculations put together."

> >

> > I fear that this discussion over my chart has a high potential

to

> > turn to unpleasant, given the list of presumed afflictions, etc,

as

> > discussed earlier. I would like to bring to your attention that

> > earlier in this thread, you had QUANTITATIVELY analyzed my chart

in

> > terms of A6/A8, Kashtapala, AdhiShatru planets, Rasi Sandhi,

etc.

> Had

> > it been someone else who knows little less about their own

charts,

> > your quantitative analysis might have put them in serious agony

> over

> > their own charts. A discussion cannot go on, when either party

is

> in

> > denial that some factors are not dependable, inspite of quoting

> > authentic sources for the same. Example: Web-site reference I

had

> > given for Pushkara Navamsa. If I remember right, I even saw

> somewhere

> > that JHL professional version automatically gives Pushkara

Navamsa

> > placements of planets.

> >

> > Due to the potential to harm while still in the process of

> learning,

> > I would like to point out to you that it might be neither wise

nor

> > befitting of an astrologer to try to point out afflictions

alone,

> > leaving out mitigating factors in a chart.

> >

> > That was something I wish to add conclusively in this thread and

> wish

> > to add nomore in this thread/discussion. Hopefully my points

raised

> > here are understood.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Jayashree

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > Dear Jayashree ji

> > > Many Thanks for getting info. reagrding pushkara navamasa

> (although

> > I

> > > am still searching references to this in various books and got

> none

> > > sofar; but I think that it must be genuine) and also Mrityu

Bhaga

> > > degrees which can be confirmed to some extent. I read several

> > shlokas

> > > regarding Shadbala Strengths and IsthaPhala & Kasthaphala

> > > computations in BPHS...all I understand is that they are all

very

> > > closely related although the exact formula for auspicious and

> > > inauspicious strengths and effects could not be understood by

me,

> > due

> > > to complex english translations in the BPHS(G.S.SHARMA). Also

> there

> > > are too many shlokas involved here.

> > >

> > > Also house ownership(exaltation, mooltrikona, own house, equal

> > house,

> > > enemy house, exteme enemy house etc) and other

> > > relationships/strengths have to be considered before reaching

a

> > final

> > > decision on any thing involving aplanet or a house...so while

> you

> > > may be right regarding 9th Bhava effects of your natal Venus,

yet

> > > that is only one part of the picture/prediction. There is no

> clear

> > > indication that bhava results can over-rule

> Isthaphala/Kasthaphala

> > > etc., Also I did not really mean planetary war but a general

war

> > due

> > > to conjunction effects of your natal Jupiter and Venus..again

all

> > > computations and considerations have to be done before

reaching a

> > > final prediction in such a scenario also.

> > >

> > > In the final view/prediction, the overall vision of the

> astrologer

> > is

> > > also critical since after every known effect has been

analysed

> and

> > > predicted, the net astrological effects/predictions are more

than

> > the

> > > sum total of all computations and calculations put together.

> > >

> > > (its like a 3-dimensional dynamic effect in progress

everywhere,

> > > which includes the static and dynamic worlds..humourously

> speaking

> > we

> > > are trying to analyse a huge 3-dimensional beast whose

> > > characteristics are changing continuously and who really deals

> with

> > > Gods!!! and our vision is limited by several factors including

> Desh

> > > (country), Kaal(time) and Patra(people))...

> > >

> > > ... anyway, I really appreciate your efforts and input. All

the

> best

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > RMK

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Jayashree"

> > > <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajesh ji,

> > > >

> > > > This is what I learnt from Jai Balagopal ji regarding

Pushkara

> > > > Navamsa - As stated by him:

> > > >

> > > > "From what i know, every sign (30deg) has two auspicious

> navamsas

> > > > (pushkara navamsas) and one aupicious degree called puskhara

> > bhaga

> > > > (also there is a set of inaupicious degrees called mrityu

> bhaga -

> > > > depends on the sign and planet). Anyway, these puskhara

> navamsas

> > > are

> > > > owned only by the benefics (Jup, Ven, Mer, Moo) and give

> > auspicious

> > > > results (even more so for planets situated in pushkara

> bhagaas).

> > > Here

> > > > is a link that gives you the different puskhara

> navamsas/bhagas.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/gamjuly14.html"

> > > >

> > > > I checked the above site and pushkara Navamsa seems to be a

> > > fortunate

> > > > planetary position in the Navamsa, capable to overriding the

> > > effects

> > > > of rasi sandhi, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Also, it is said a planet gives result as of its bhava

> placement

> > > > during its own dasha, and Venus in my chart is placed in 9th

> > bhava

> > > > and there he is not in bhava Sandhi, he is fully in 9th

bhava.

> > > That's

> > > > the reason I think Venus's placement in A6 might trouble

now,

> but

> > > not

> > > > during Venus's dasha as Venus then gives bhava results.

Also,

> > > > vargottam planets are said to do good irrespective of kashta-

> > pala,

> > > > and Jupiter is Vargottama, aspected by Shani lagnesh.

> > > >

> > > > Due to the above reasons, I feel Venus dasha will be good

for

> > > overall

> > > > well-being and job prospects. But more than all these, why I

> feel

> > > > strongly so is because, I had a strange nice dream which

Shri

> > > Ramadas

> > > > Rao ji kindly interpreted for me, and quite amazingly he

> > pinpointed

> > > > something, ie me getting some specific mantras from an

> unexpected

> > > > source before the dream which is a very rare and wonderful

> > > experience

> > > > that kindled some kind of revelation on me.

> > > >

> > > > Also, doesn't the mutual aspect of lagnesh and 9th lord

produce

> a

> > > > raja-lakshmi yoga?

> > > >

> > > > I agree with all the A8/A6 parts, but Jupiter and Venus are

so

> > far

> > > > apart in my chart (almost 15 degrees) that they cannot be

too

> > > bitter

> > > > rivals (no planetary war). And regarding A8/A6 and

Jupiter/Mars

> > > > placed/lording over it, I think the Navamsa placement of

Mars

> as

> > > lord

> > > > of A5 in A5 with Jupiter overrides this blemish largely...

> (Since

> > > > many people look at rasi's 10th lord placement in Navamsa to

be

> a

> > > > weighty factor to determine career results). Also, inspite

of

> > > > Mercury's ishta-pala, his functional nature was 8th lord

(Mool-

> > > > trikona) as well as my AK, but Venus is lord of 4 and 9, so

> > > > functional benefic.

> > > >

> > > > These are my reasonings, now I have to take to the wonderful

> > > guidance

> > > > Shri Ramadas Rao ji and Shri Sudharsan ji have given me

> regarding

> > > > mantras and my ishta-devata, and as you too rightly said,

> praying

> > > to

> > > > goddess Lakshmi, and with that, I'm quite confident.

> > > >

> > > > Rajesh ji, it has been a pleasure discussing and learning

from

> > you.

> > > > Please give me any corrections or insight that you might see

> > > further.

> > > > Thanks very much for your willingness to discuss the same

with

> me.

> > > >

> > > > With warm regards,

> > > >

> > > > Jayashree

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Jayashree ji

> > > > > Well you have done a good analysis and got me thinking …

let

> us

> > > take

> > > > > things one by one..please note that we are all learning

here

> > and

> > > my

> > > > > viewpoints are not an imposition on anyone…Predictions are

> > based

> > > on

> > > > > interpretations only…When you say that Venus is in

pushkara

> > > navamsa

> > > > > (assuming this navamsa is favourable and ignoring rashi

> sandhi

> > > etc)

> > > > > and everything is fine with married life due to the

position

> of

> > > > Venus

> > > > > in Navamsa, I agree with you…(I used the new time of 14:32)

> > > > >

> > > > > So let's just focus on the forces involved around your

tenth

> > > house

> > > > in

> > > > > Rashi charka…Just saw that Rashi chakra also contains A8

> > > > > (Mrityupada/Kashtapada) and A6(roga pada /shatru pada),

along

> > > with

> > > > > jupiter and venus..you are right that both jupiter and

venus

> > are

> > > > very

> > > > > strong in Shadbala Strengths. So that means that both the

> > enemies

> > > > are

> > > > > equally strong. When we look at IsthaPhala (benefic

tendency)

> > and

> > > > > Kashtaphala(malefic tendency) figures, Venus has more

> > Kashtaphala

> > > > > than Isthaphala(48.77 vs 11.23) and so has Jupiter(45.73

vs

> > > 14.00).

> > > > > So both the adhishatru planets have tendency to hurt you

and

> > both

> > > > are

> > > > > placed in 10th house of career affairs. Mercury on the

other

> > hand

> > > > has

> > > > > a benfic tendency(28.52 vs 24.55), so mercury period was

good

> > for

> > > > > your career, since mahadasa lord always controls the major

> > > effects

> > > > of

> > > > > its dasa. Now Ketu is also another 10th Lord along with

Mars,

> > who

> > > > is

> > > > > being considered as stronger 10th Lord(still finding out

> > > why)..Mars

> > > > > has a overall benefic tendency(49.34 vs 5.72).. so my

point

> is

> > > that

> > > > > during Mercury dasa you had two strong planets working in

> your

> > > > > favour, mars and mercury..when you reached ketu dasa,

mercury

> > was

> > > > no

> > > > > longer there and replaced by Ketu placed in 6th house from

> Lagna

> > (

> > > > not

> > > > > a good position certainly) and got entangled in the Venus-

> > Jupiter

> > > > war

> > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars helps career, but is also the Lord of A8 and A6

(which

> > cause

> > > > > pain). On the other hand Ketu is also co-lord of A8 and

A6.

> So

> > > > Mars

> > > > > and Ketu are in yet another conflict here…obviously Ketu

> > prevails

> > > > > since it is his mahadasa here, so looks like unfortunately

> Mars

> > > has

> > > > > lost control due to this Venus-Jupiter and Ketu's

offensive

> > > battles

> > > > > and Ketu dominates currently…continuing on similar lines,

if

> > > Venus

> > > > is

> > > > > strengthened by mantras, then only it can help to win this

> war

> > > > going

> > > > > on in 10th house(Ketu dasa or Venus Mahadasa)… Also

Dasamasa

> > > > effects

> > > > > should be analysed separately, but they cannot easily ride

> over

> > > > > Rashi's effects here. Saturn cannot help much by similar

logic

> > > > (19.26

> > > > > vs 20.98)… So in a certain way, you are right that Ketu is

> also

> > > to

> > > > be

> > > > > blamed, but the major effects are still controlled by

Venus-

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > and Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > RMK

> > > > >

> > > > > --------------------------

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> --

> > --

> > > --

> > > > > These calculations were made using the free "Jagannatha

Hora

> > > Lite"

> > > > > software, which can be downloaded from the website of its

> > author

> > > > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from

the

> > > website

> > > > > of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org).

> > > > > --------------------------

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> --

> > --

> > > --

> > > > >

> > > > > jayshree_new

> > > > >

> > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > >

> > > > > October 31, 1971

> > > > > Time: 14:32:00

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"

> > > > > Madras, India

> > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > > >

> > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Virodha-krit - Karthika

> > > > > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (97.23% left)

> > > > > Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> > > > > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (63.85% left)

> > > > > Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve)

> > > > > Karana: Kaulava (Ma)

> > > > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Pi)

> > > > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)

> > > > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunrise: 6:04:34

> > > > > Sunset: 17:40:14

> > > > > Janma Ghatis: 21.1430

> > > > >

> > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-28-02.13

> > > > > Sidereal Time: 16:59:12

> > > > >

> > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi

Navamsa

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna 18 Aq 14' 02.64" Sata 4 Aq Pi

> > > > > Sun - BK 13 Li 49' 16.73" Swat 3 Li Aq

> > > > > Moon - PK 8 Pi 09' 13.44" UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > > > > Mars - GK 3 Aq 23' 28.65" Dhan 4 Aq Sc

> > > > > Mercury - AK 27 Li 49' 20.48" Visa 3 Li Ge

> > > > > Jupiter - AmK 15 Sc 13' 26.71" Anu 4 Sc Sc

> > > > > Venus - DK 0 Sc 45' 28.94" Visa 4 Sc Cn

> > > > > Saturn ® - PiK 11 Ta 31' 45.53" Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > > > > Rahu - MK 16 Cp 25' 42.52" Srav 2 Cp Ta

> > > > > Ketu 16 Cn 25' 42.52" Push 4 Cn Sc

> > > > > Maandi 5 Pi 40' 16.97" UBha 1 Pi Le

> > > > > Gulika 22 Aq 30' 59.46" PBha 1 Aq Ar

> > > > > Bhava Lagna 20 Aq 19' 36.82" PBha 1 Aq Ar

> > > > > Hora Lagna 27 Ge 11' 04.88" Puna 3 Ge Ge

> > > > > Ghati Lagna 17 Cn 45' 29.04" Asre 1 Cn Sg

> > > > > Vighati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 29.84" Visa 4 Sc Cn

> > > > > Varnada Lagna 15 Ta 25' 07.52" Rohi 2 Ta Ta

> > > > > Sree Lagna 28 Ge 23' 05.40" Puna 3 Ge Ge

> > > > > Dhooma 27 Aq 09' 16.73" PBha 3 Aq Ge

> > > > > Vyatipata 2 Ta 50' 43.27" Krit 2 Ta Cp

> > > > > Parivesha 2 Sc 50' 43.27" Visa 4 Sc Cn

> > > > > Indra Chapa 27 Le 09' 16.73" UPha 1 Le Sg

> > > > > Upaketu 13 Vi 49' 16.73" Hast 2 Vi Ta

> > > > > Kaala 23 Li 26' 47.67" Visa 2 Li Ta

> > > > > Mrityu 3 Sg 09' 20.95" Mool 1 Sg Ar

> > > > > Artha Prahara 23 Sg 30' 30.16" PSha 4 Sg Sc

> > > > > Yama Ghantaka 15 Cp 27' 09.49" Srav 2 Cp Ta

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet Chara Karakatwa Meaning

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun BK Brother (associate)

> > > > > Moon PK Son (follower)

> > > > > Mars GK Cousin (rival)

> > > > > Mercury AK Self

> > > > > Jupiter AmK Minister (advisor)

> > > > > Venus DK Spouse (partner)

> > > > > Saturn PiK Father (authority)

> > > > > Rahu MK Mother (nourisher)

> > > > >

> > > > > Ashtakavarga of Rasi Chart:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi

> > > > > As 3 4 1 7 5 2 2 5 6 4 5* 5

> > > > > Su 4 6 3 4 5 3 3* 4 5 4 3 4

> > > > > Mo 4 5 2 6 5 4 2 4 6 3 3 5*

> > > > > Ma 3 3 1 2 6 3 2 3 5 2 5* 4

> > > > > Me 2 3 6 3 5 6 4* 4 6 3 6 6

> > > > > Ju 4 4 4 6 6 5 4 6* 5 4 4 4

> > > > > Ve 3 4 5 5 5 5 3 2* 5 4 5 6

> > > > > Sa 5 4* 2 5 3 4 4 3 2 3 1 3

> > > > >

> > > > > Sodhya Pinda Rasi Pinda Graha Pinda

> > > > > As 178 126 52

> > > > > Su 69 54 15

> > > > > Mo 98 75 23

> > > > > Ma 202 128 74

> > > > > Me 197 149 48

> > > > > Ju 92 58 34

> > > > > Ve 151 115 36

> > > > > Sa 105 70 35

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet Shadbala In rupas % Strength IshtaPhala KashtaPhala

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun 399.09 6.65 133.03 4.75 49.83

> > > > > Moon 371.08 6.18 103.08 44.80 14.74

> > > > > Mars 424.41 7.07 141.47 49.34 5.72

> > > > > Mercury 439.53 7.33 104.65 28.52 24.55

> > > > > Jupiter 437.33 7.29 112.13 14.00 45.73

> > > > > Venus 448.14 7.47 135.80 11.23 48.77

> > > > > Saturn 339.40 5.66 113.13 19.26 20.98

> > > > >

> > > > > Rasi

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Md / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Mo / \ Ra / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ Gk / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 11 / Ve \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | SaR x Ju |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |HL x x Me Su |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ke \ / \ |

> > > > > | / GL \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Navamsa

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Gk / \ / |

> > > > > | \ SaR / \ Su / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ra x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / HL \ 12 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Me x GL |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / Ke |

> > > > > |Ve AL x Mo x Ju Ma |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Md \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Hora D-2

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Md / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Mo / \ Ma / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / GL |

> > > > > | x As x Ke Ra |

> > > > > | / \ / \ AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 10 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Su x |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Me x Ju x HL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ve \ / \ |

> > > > > | / SaR \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Drekkana D-3

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Ra / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Me \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 3 / Ju \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | SaR x AL Mo |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Md / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / HL |

> > > > > |Gk x x Ma Su |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ve \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ke GL \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Chaturthamsa D-4

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ Ra / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Me / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / SaR \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x AL Mo |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Gk \ 5 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Ve x Ju |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x Ma x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Su \ / HL \ |

> > > > > | / Ke GL \ / Md \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Panchamsa D-5

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ Md / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x Ma |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / SaR \ 3 / Ra \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Mo x GL Ju |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Ke / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Me HL x Su x AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Shashthamsa D-6

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Gk / \ Su / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Me HL x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 4 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Ve x Ma |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ra \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Mo Md x GL Ju x AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ Ke / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / SaR \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Saptamsa D-7

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ GL / |

> > > > > | \ Gk / \ Ve / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ju x As x Ke Me |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 3 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | x |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Md \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Mo Ra x HL x AL Ma |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / Su \ |

> > > > > | / \ / SaR \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Ashtamsa D-8

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ HL / |

> > > > > | \ / \ SaR / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ju \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Gk x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 1 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Su x |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |GL \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ra Ke x Mo x Ve Ma |

> > > > > |AL / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Md \ / Me \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Dasamsa D-10

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > > | \ Gk / \ Me / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ke \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ GL / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 5 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | x AL |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ra \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ju Md x Su x SaR |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Mo \ / Ma \ |

> > > > > | / \ / HL \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Rudramsa D-11

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Ra / \ HL / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ju Gk x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 9 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Su x Ve |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |AL x x Me |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / Ke GL \ |

> > > > > | / \ / Md Mo \ |

> > > > > | / \ / Ma SaR \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Dwadasamsa D-12

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Me \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ve Gk x As x Ra |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ SaR / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 6 / AL \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | x Mo |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ke x Su x Md Ju |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / GL \ / HL \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Shodasamsa D-16

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ Ju / |

> > > > > | \ Me / \ Mo / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x Md |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Gk \ 2 / HL \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Ve x SaR |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ AL / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ma x Su x GL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / Ra \ |

> > > > > | / \ / Ke \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Vimsamsa D-20

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Mo / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Su / \ Md / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ve \ / |

> > > > > |Ke \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ma Ra x As x Ju Me |

> > > > > |HL / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Gk \ 9 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | GL x |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x x AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / SaR \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Siddhamsa D-24

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Md / \ GL / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x Ke Ra |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / AL \ 7 / Ju \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Mo x Su |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Gk x SaR x Me |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / HL \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Nakshatramsa D-27

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > > | \ Ke / \ Ma / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Ju \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |GL x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / AL \ 11 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | SaR x Me |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Md Gk x Mo x HL Su |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / Ra \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Trimsamsa D-30

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ Ve / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | x As x Ma |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / SaR \ 3 / Ra \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Mo x GL Ju |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Md / \ Ke / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Me HL x Su x AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Khavedamsa D-40

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Md / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Me / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / HL \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ju x As x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ke \ 1 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Ra x SaR |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Gk \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Mo Ma x Su x AL |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / GL \ / Ve \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Akshavedamsa D-45

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ Mo / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Su / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |Ma SaR x As x Ve Me |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / \ 8 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | x Md |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |AL x Gk x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ra \ / Ju \ |

> > > > > | / Ke HL \ / GL \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Shashtyamsa D-60

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ Ke / \ Su / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > | \ / Md \ / |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |SaR x As x HL Ve |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Ju \ 11 / \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | Me x Gk |

> > > > > | \ / \ / |

> > > > > |GL AL x Ma x |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > | / Mo \ / Ra \ |

> > > > > | / \ / \ |

> > > > > +--------------+

> > > > >

> > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat Sat 1964-12-17 Mer 1967-12-21 Ket 1970-08-30

> > > > > Ven 1971-10-09 Sun 1974-12-09 Moo 1975-11-21

> > > > > Mar 1977-06-21 Rah 1978-07-31 Jup 1981-06-06

> > > > > Mer Mer 1983-12-18 Ket 1986-05-15 Ven 1987-05-13

> > > > > Sun 1990-03-13 Moo 1991-01-17 Mar 1992-06-17

> > > > > Rah 1993-06-15 Jup 1996-01-02 Sat 1998-04-09

> > > > > Ket Ket 2000-12-17 Ven 2001-05-15 Sun 2002-07-15

> > > > > Moo 2002-11-20 Mar 2003-06-21 Rah 2003-11-17

> > > > > Jup 2004-12-05 Sat 2005-11-11 Mer 2006-12-20

> > > > > Ven Ven 2007-12-18 Sun 2011-04-18 Moo 2012-04-17

> > > > > Mar 2013-12-17 Rah 2015-02-16 Jup 2018-02-16

> > > > > Sat 2020-10-17 Mer 2023-12-18 Ket 2026-10-17

> > > > > Sun Sun 2027-12-18 Moo 2028-04-05 Mar 2028-10-05

> > > > > Rah 2029-02-10 Jup 2030-01-04 Sat 2030-10-23

> > > > > Mer 2031-10-05 Ket 2032-08-11 Ven 2032-12-17

> > > > > Moo Moo 2033-12-17 Mar 2034-10-17 Rah 2035-05-18

> > > > > Jup 2036-11-16 Sat 2038-03-18 Mer 2039-10-18

> > > > > Ket 2041-03-18 Ven 2041-10-17 Sun 2043-06-18

> > > > > Mar Mar 2043-12-17 Rah 2044-05-15 Jup 2045-06-02

> > > > > Sat 2046-05-09 Mer 2047-06-18 Ket 2048-06-14

> > > > > Ven 2048-11-10 Sun 2050-01-10 Moo 2050-05-18

> > > > > Rah Rah 2050-12-17 Jup 2053-08-29 Sat 2056-01-23

> > > > > Mer 2058-11-29 Ket 2061-06-17 Ven 2062-07-06

> > > > > Sun 2065-07-05 Moo 2066-05-30 Mar 2067-11-29

> > > > > Jup Jup 2068-12-16 Sat 2071-02-04 Mer 2073-08-17

> > > > > Ket 2075-11-23 Ven 2076-10-29 Sun 2079-06-30

> > > > > Moo 2080-04-17 Mar 2081-08-17 Rah 2082-07-24

> > > > >

> > > > > Ashtottari Dasa (controversial nakshatra dasa):

> > > > >

> > > > > Rah Ven 1970-09-30 Sun 1973-01-29 Moo 1973-09-30

> > > > > Mar 1975-05-31 Mer 1976-04-20 Sat 1978-03-11

> > > > > Jup 1979-04-21 Rah 1981-05-31

> > > > > Ven Sun 1982-09-30 Moo 1983-11-30 Mar 1986-10-30

> > > > > Mer 1988-05-20 Sat 1991-09-10 Jup 1993-08-20

> > > > > Rah 1997-04-30 Ven 1999-08-31

> > > > > Sun Moo 2003-09-30 Mar 2004-07-30 Mer 2005-01-09

> > > > > Sat 2005-12-20 Jup 2006-07-11 Rah 2007-07-31

> > > > > Ven 2008-03-31 Sun 2009-05-31

> > > > > Moo Mar 2009-09-29 Mer 2010-11-09 Sat 2013-03-21

> > > > > Jup 2014-08-10 Rah 2017-03-31 Ven 2018-11-29

> > > > > Sun 2021-10-30 Moo 2022-08-30

> > > > > Mar Mer 2024-09-29 Sat 2026-01-02 Jup 2026-09-30

> > > > > Rah 2028-02-26 Ven 2029-01-15 Sun 2030-08-06

> > > > > Moo 2031-01-16 Mar 2032-02-26

> > > > > Mer Sat 2032-09-29 Jup 2034-04-27 Rah 2037-04-23

> > > > > Ven 2039-03-14 Sun 2042-07-03 Moo 2043-06-13

> > > > > Mar 2045-10-23 Mer 2047-01-26

> > > > > Sat Jup 2049-09-29 Rah 2051-07-04 Ven 2052-08-13

> > > > > Sun 2054-07-24 Moo 2055-02-12 Mar 2056-07-03

> > > > > Mer 2057-03-30 Sat 2058-10-26

> > > > > Jup Rah 2059-09-30 Ven 2061-11-09 Sun 2065-07-20

> > > > > Moo 2066-08-10 Mar 2069-03-30 Mer 2070-08-26

> > > > > Sat 2073-08-23 Jup 2075-05-27

> > > > >

> > > > > Kalachakra Dasa (Savya group, Paramayush = 97 years):

> > > > >

> > > > > Ta Ta 1958-11-29 Ge 1961-07-20 Cn 1963-01-13

> > > > > Le 1966-07-01 Vi 1967-04-29 Li 1968-10-22

> > > > > Sc 1971-06-13 Sg 1972-08-08 Cp 1974-04-02

> > > > > Ge Ge 1974-11-29 Cn 1975-11-12 Le 1978-02-01

> > > > > Vi 1978-08-14 Li 1979-07-28 Sc 1981-04-06

> > > > > Sg 1982-01-02 Cp 1983-01-24 Aq 1983-06-27

> > > > > Cn Cn 1983-11-29 Le 1989-01-14 Vi 1990-04-05

> > > > > Li 1992-06-16 Sc 1996-05-13 Sg 1998-01-27

> > > > > Cp 2000-07-07 Aq 2001-06-29 Pi 2002-06-20

> > > > > Le Le 2004-11-28 Vi 2005-04-04 Li 2005-11-18

> > > > > Sc 2006-12-29 Sg 2007-06-25 Cp 2008-03-04

> > > > > Aq 2008-06-14 Pi 2008-09-23 Sc 2009-06-04

> > > > > Vi Vi 2009-11-28 Li 2010-11-20 Sc 2012-08-15

> > > > > Sg 2013-05-19 Cp 2014-06-19 Aq 2014-11-24

> > > > > Pi 2015-05-02 Sc 2016-06-01 Li 2017-03-05

> > > > > Li Li 2018-11-29 Sc 2021-12-29 Sg 2023-05-06

> > > > > Cp 2025-04-09 Aq 2026-01-16 Pi 2026-10-24

> > > > > Sc 2028-09-27 Li 2030-02-02 Vi 2033-03-05

> > > > > Sc Sc 2034-11-29 Sg 2035-06-20 Cp 2036-04-05

> > > > > Aq 2036-07-31 Pi 2036-11-24 Sc 2037-09-10

> > > > > Li 2038-04-02 Vi 2039-07-11 Cn 2040-03-28

> > > > > Sg Sg 2041-11-28 Cp 2043-01-27 Aq 2043-07-16

> > > > > Pi 2044-01-02 Sc 2045-03-01 Li 2045-12-24

> > > > > Vi 2047-11-03 Cn 2048-11-19 Le 2051-04-30

> > > > > Cp Cp 2051-11-29 Aq 2052-02-05 Pi 2052-04-14

> > > > > Sc 2052-10-03 Li 2053-01-31 Vi 2053-11-02

> > > > > Cn 2054-04-06 Le 2055-04-02 Ge 2055-06-27

> > > > >

> > > > > Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

> > > > >

> > > > > Aq Cp 1971-10-31 Sg 1971-12-01 Sc 1971-12-31

> > > > > Li 1972-01-30 Vi 1972-03-01 Le 1972-03-31

> > > > > Cn 1972-05-01 Ge 1972-05-31 Ta 1972-07-01

> > > > > Ar 1972-07-31 Pi 1972-08-30 Aq 1972-09-30

> > > > > Cn Ta 1972-10-30 Ar 1973-03-01 Pi 1973-07-01

> > > > > Aq 1973-10-31 Cp 1974-03-01 Sg 1974-07-01

> > > > > Sc 1974-10-31 Li 1975-03-02 Vi 1975-07-01

> > > > > Le 1975-10-31 Cn 1976-03-01 Ge 1976-07-01

> > > > > Sg Sc 1976-10-30 Li 1977-09-30 Vi 1978-08-31

> > > > > Le 1979-08-01 Cn 1980-07-01 Ge 1981-05-31

> > > > > Ta 1982-05-01 Ar 1983-04-01 Pi 1984-03-01

> > > > > Aq 1985-01-30 Cp 1985-12-30 Sg 1986-11-30

> > > > > Ta Aq 1987-10-31 Pi 1988-05-01 Ar 1988-10-30

> > > > > Ta 1989-05-01 Ge 1989-10-30 Cn 1990-05-01

> > > > > Le 1990-10-31 Vi 1991-05-01 Li 1991-10-31

> > > > > Sc 1992-05-01 Sg 1992-10-30 Cp 1993-05-01

> > > > > Li Sc 1993-10-30 Li 1993-11-30 Vi 1993-12-30

> > > > > Le 1994-01-30 Cn 1994-03-01 Ge 1994-04-01

> > > > > Ta 1994-05-01 Ar 1994-05-31 Pi 1994-07-01

> > > > > Aq 1994-07-31 Cp 1994-08-31 Sg 1994-09-30

> > > > > Pi Sc 1994-10-31 Li 1995-03-01 Vi 1995-07-01

> > > > > Le 1995-10-31 Cn 1996-03-01 Ge 1996-06-30

> > > > > Ta 1996-10-30 Ar 1997-03-01 Pi 1997-07-01

> > > > > Aq 1997-10-30 Cp 1998-03-01 Sg 1998-07-01

> > > > > Le Cp 1998-10-31 Sg 1999-08-01 Sc 2000-05-01

> > > > > Li 2001-01-29 Vi 2001-10-30 Le 2002-07-31

> > > > > Cn 2003-05-01 Ge 2004-01-30 Ta 2004-10-30

> > > > > Ar 2005-07-31 Pi 2006-05-01 Aq 2007-01-30

> > > > > Cp Ta 2007-10-31 Ar 2008-06-30 Pi 2009-03-01

> > > > > Aq 2009-10-30 Cp 2010-07-01 Sg 2011-03-01

> > > > > Sc 2011-10-31 Li 2012-06-30 Vi 2013-03-01

> > > > > Le 2013-10-30 Cn 2014-07-01 Ge 2015-03-01

> > > > > Ge Sc 2015-10-31 Li 2016-03-01 Vi 2016-06-30

> > > > > Le 2016-10-30 Cn 2017-03-01 Ge 2017-07-01

> > > > > Ta 2017-10-30 Ar 2018-03-01 Pi 2018-07-01

> > > > > Aq 2018-10-31 Cp 2019-03-01 Sg 2019-07-01

> > > > > Sc Aq 2019-10-31 Pi 2020-01-30 Ar 2020-04-30

> > > > > Ta 2020-07-31 Ge 2020-10-30 Cn 2021-01-29

> > > > > Le 2021-05-01 Vi 2021-07-31 Li 2021-10-30

> > > > > Sc 2022-01-30 Sg 2022-05-01 Cp 2022-07-31

> > > > > Ar Sc 2022-10-30 Li 2023-08-31 Vi 2024-06-30

> > > > > Le 2025-05-01 Cn 2026-03-01 Ge 2026-12-30

> > > > > Ta 2027-10-31 Ar 2028-08-30 Pi 2029-06-30

> > > > > Aq 2030-05-01 Cp 2031-03-01 Sg 2031-12-31

> > > > > Vi Sc 2032-10-30 Li 2033-09-30 Vi 2034-08-31

> > > > > Le 2035-07-31 Cn 2036-06-30 Ge 2037-05-31

> > > > > Ta 2038-05-01 Ar 2039-04-01 Pi 2040-02-29

> > > > > Aq 2041-01-29 Cp 2041-12-30 Sg 2042-11-30

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Jayashree"

> > > > > <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear RMK ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, to say honestly, I have heard of some different

> > > viewpoints.

> > > > > For

> > > > > > example, Saturn is also my Pitrukarak and 12th lord and

> thus

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > placement in 4 deprives happiness from mother and

> motherland.

> > > And

> > > > > as

> > > > > > you can clearly see in my D-12, Mercury is afflicted by

> > Saturn

> > > > and

> > > > > > Sun is also with 8th lord Mars in mutual aspect with

> > > > > Mercury/Saturn,

> > > > > > and in Rasi 9th house, Mercury the AK is stationed with

> > > > debilitated

> > > > > > Sun. These might have more some profound significance, I

> > think,

> > > > as

> > > > > > Venus is also my Darakarak, and Venus has given

wonderful

> > > results

> > > > > > with respect to marriage. Shouldn't it be that marriage

> would

> > > be

> > > > > > bothersome if Venus was placed bad, since he is the

> > > sthirakaraka

> > > > as

> > > > > > well as my darakaraka? You might see that in Navamsa,

Venus

> > is

> > > in

> > > > a

> > > > > > trine and in natural benefic Moon's house, which is 9 to

> > > Venus's

> > > > > own

> > > > > > rasi placement. Further I think Saturn's aspect on

Jupiter

> > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > makes them behave well to each other. Regarding job,

during

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > > dasha I had no problems, whether the job is of my liking

or

> > > not,

> > > > I

> > > > > > was well-paid and the designation was good. You might

note

> I

> > > got

> > > > my

> > > > > > first job during Mercury/Jupiter/Venus (June 16th 1997).

> > Also,

> > > I

> > > > > came

> > > > > > to know recently about Pushkara Navamsa (ie for Scorpio

> rasi,

> > > > > > pushkara Navamsa is first 2 degrees of Cancer) and Venus

is

> > > > placed

> > > > > in

> > > > > > Pushkara Navamsa. When there are afflictions in other

> areas,

> > > such

> > > > > as

> > > > > > PiK and 12th lord Saturn in 4, etc. they have to run

their

> > > > course,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > think. I really don't know much about the job thing, as

to

> > what

> > > > > might

> > > > > > be the cause for break in career, but I don't know how

many

> > > > people

> > > > > > consider aspects, but you might also see that Ketu

aspects

> or

> > > > > > afflicts my natal 10th house and this could also be a

> reason.

> > > > Also,

> > > > > > you might note, my natal 10th lord Mars is 6/8 to Ketu

in

> > both

> > > > Rasi

> > > > > > and Dasamsa. This makes me wonder if Ketu is the

culprit,

> > > > > especially

> > > > > > since the break happened exactly at the start of Ketu's

> dasha

> > > and

> > > > > > maybe awaits the drive of another retro planet's bhukti

> like

> > > Rahu

> > > > > or

> > > > > > Saturn, I don't know the reasoning. Due to pushkara

> navamsa,

> > > and

> > > > > > Venus being in Kendra in rasi aspected by Lagnesh, and

> being

> > > > placed

> > > > > > in trine in Navamsa, somehow I cannot think Venus is

still

> > > weak -

> > > > > > since Venus also has very good shadbala, even more than

> > Jupiter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shri Sudharsan ji has given me my ishta devata mantra

and

> my

> > > > ishta

> > > > > > devata is Varaha Murthy with Lakshmi. Also, some people

> say,

> > > that

> > > > > > when there are a few afflictions in the chart, it might

> > trouble

> > > > > > initially, but the blessings of god is also there for

the

> > > > > afflictions

> > > > > > to be mitigated, which is when a native strongly feels

> > > motivated

> > > > to

> > > > > > pray to his/her ishta - maybe the Navamsa can map this

kind

> > of

> > > > > > blessing. I'm a quite spiritual person and reason every

> > action

> > > of

> > > > > > mine to see if it is spiritually right, etc. and I think

it

> > is

> > > > > > blessing of my 9th lord Venus, so I await good times to

> come

> > > by,

> > > > > > especially during Venus mahadasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS: One correction to my timing, it is 2:32 PM and not

2:26

> > PM

> > > > > which

> > > > > > was given earlier.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks again,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jayashree

> > > > > >

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