Gajkesari Yoga - at its worst? + Liberation and Ketu

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Dear Ramani ji

 

Call me pradeep.Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation.

I understand that ketu has more spiritual inclinations with an aim

for liberation.So by suffering do you mean liberation can be

attained only at the cost of material life?Will a Karma yogi get

liberation?

In the constellation of Aries Sun is exalted in Aswini nakshathra

ruled by ketu.By nature sun should be a kshathriya as he is the

king.So the king can attain moksha by leading a materialistic life

adhering to Dharma.Thus how will this go together.Is it necessary

that liberation aimed by ketu can be attained only without material

happiness.

 

Now aspect of Rahu on ketu.Can these nodal points have an

aspect?.Because after reading views of some learned members i feel

these are just points and can only receive the aspects from

others.These points may look like planets by virtue of the shadows

falling on them and may be hence the name chaya grahas.

 

These questions are general questions and i am not trying to

contradict your analysis as i dont have enough knowledge to do

so.Also i understand your logic.But from your points about ketu and

aspects on ketu i was able to raise these questions.For Mars ketu

ruled nakshathra forms moola trikona.The aim of Mars is as well

material as he being the commander in chief in the army.Kindly share

your views.

 

Thanks again

Pradeep

 

vedic astrology, Ramani Alwar

<aramani_1969> wrote:

> Hello Vijayadas jee,

> In general the planets in the stars of Ketu act unusual.

Here in the given case study the native has very powerful Gaja

Kesari yoga but it did not work for him that is the case. We know

that the Ketu is the planet that has the energy which is different

from the rest of the planets and towards not the materialistic life

and hence we cannot expect the results according to the material

life. In the given case both Moon and Jupiter are in the stars of

Ketu.

> But if the Ketu is powerful then the results may be different. In

the given case Ketu is aspected by Mars, Saturn and Rahu in the rasi

and in the Navamsa it is again aspected by Mars and Rahu. I see the

planets are in the stars of Ketu is the only factor that is acting

much along with the Bhadakastana. Moreover both the planets are in

the same nakshatra here. Any two planets in the same rasi with the

same Nakshatra can give the negative results in their dasa and antar

dasa as summarised by the native in the given case and that too be

viewed in this case.

> I would like to say what we are dealing with is an analytical

science. So we have to analyse and come to conclusion. I am wishing

to say the native to pray and do puja for Lord Ganesha and see the

changes as a request.

> I would like to thank the other person who discussed of course in

a harsh fashion. Let us see how further the discussions go. More

discussions are welcome!!!.

> Yours sincerely

> A. Ramani.

>

>

> vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear Ramani Ji

>

> Moola trikona for Jupiter in Dhanus falls in Moola

Nakshathra,ruled

> by Ketu.So do you think it is bad for jupiter to be there?

> Is this a standard rule or are there any exceptions.Because one

> tends to think that strength of a planet in the descending order

is

> Deeptha,Mulatrikona,Swakshethra.

> Kindly elaborate.

>

> respect

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, Ramani Alwar

> <aramani_1969> wrote:

> > Hello

> > Gaja Kesari and any yoga giving planets at the first

place

> should not be in retrograde in nature, except retro debilitated

> planets.

> > Another thing is the Leo is the 11th house for the Libra

> ascendants!!! Can it be against the native? Not to this much as

the

> native says in his mail.

> > Is it transit that makes the trouble? Yes to certain extent and

> not to this extent as the native suffers or feels.

> > Also we have to see few more things. by transit Jupiter is at

the

> first house with respect to Moon and also the Jupiter moved to the

> 11th house (bhadaka Sthana) and finally the Jupiter returns (means

> Jupiter by transit conjuncts the natal Moon).

> > Finally and very very importantly, Jupiter is placed in the star

> of Ketu and also the Moon is with the star of Ketu. Always we have

> to remeber any planet with the star of Ketu cannot yield good

> results. Since both the planets are in the stars of Ketu the

native

> suffers.

> > Remedy: The Native should pray and do puja to the Lord Ganesha

and

> if possible meet a saintly person to get better results. Sri

> Ganapatheya namaha.

> > Also the native can chant the Guru Mantras.

> > Yours sincerely

> > A. Ramani

> > P.S: comments are very much welcome and we can discuss and find

> out more remedies.

> >

> > kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:

> > Dear Sir,

> > May I add?.What Mr.Mukul has said is quite right.Here

> > Jupiter is said to be the gajam and Moon the

> > kesari.gajam and kesari are bitter enbemies bur their

> > combination is said to lead to yogam?.My experience

> > has revealed that Moon is the mano karaka and jupiter

> > who is a benefic makes Moon to be auspicious.The

> > native who has Gajakesari yoga sooner or later

> > developes a propensity to be kind and sympathetic to

> > all those who may be helpless and suffering.This may

> > be of some useto you.

> > With pranams to Gurus.

> > Regards,

> > Jagannathan.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- mag <mukul.agarwal@e...> wrote: > You cant

> > reach a conclusion just depending on the

> > > Gajakesari yoga. A

> > > lot of other things have to be considered.

> > > - Position of Jupiter in Navmansh

> > > - Planets aspecting jupiter

> > > - Nakshatra lord for Jupiter and its position in

> > > your chart

> > > Also according to some text/observations a retrogade

> > > planet acts like

> > > a debilitated planet and hence gives bad results.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > -Mukul

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Arun

> > > Kalyanaraman

> > > <asgoodasitgets75> wrote:

> > > > Dear sdj254,

> > > >

> > > > For Libra Lagna Jupiter is lord of 3rd and 6th, so

> > > is malefic.

> > > Although there is a GajaKesari yogam it is not

> > > strong and the sub

> > > dasha of Jupiter will not be so good.

> > > >

> > > > This is my humble opinion and I want to state that

> > > i am just a

> > > student.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Arun

> > > >

> > > > sdj25455 <sdj254@h...> wrote:

> > > > Dear All:

> > > > I am writing to clarify the effects of

> > > Gaj-kesari Yoga. My Mo-Ju

> > > > started in March of 2003. My natal moon and

> > > Jupiter (retrograde)

> > > are

> > > > in Leo in the same house that Jupiter is currently

> > > transiting. My

> > > > lagna is Libra. Within two days of the Mo-Ju

> > > period I lost my

> > > father.

> > > > Within the next two months my wife relocated to

> > > another city for

> > > job.

> > > > Two months later I lost my job, house and

> > > literally everything

> > > else.

> > > > I have yet to see any positive effect of the

> > > Gaj-kesari yoga. Could

> > > > someone clarify this for me? Is there a solution

> > > or an end in sight?

> > > >

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