Saturn Mars Conjunction - Help

June 5, 2003

Ums,

Mars and Saturn in the 6th house can be considered a

Pitta Roga Yoga. This is yoga meaning that the

subject will suffer from pitta aggravation or

diseases, such as itches, eczema, etcetera.

Regards,

John R.

--- planck12 <planck12 wrote:

> Hello everyone,

> It is said that the saturn mars cojunction is a

> stressful one in a chart. Lets take a case.

>

> Aries Acedent where mars is the lagnesh and mars is

> Debilated in D9.

>

> Mars is cojoined with saturn in virgo in the rashi

> chart in the 6th house. What can one comment about

> it. I feel that since mars is lagnesh and the owner

> of both a kona and kendra (the lagna) it will do

> good to the matters of the 6th house. Also mars the

> lord of 8th house (aries acedent) and it forms a

> Veerpreta Raja Yoga, being in inmical sign in virgo

> and also being debilated in the D9. It forms a

> strong Veerpreta Raja Yoga.

>

> Im wondering if some of our learned members can shed

> some light on the saturn mars combination in the 6th

> house. How would this prove for over all health and

> proffession and wealth (since saturn is the lord of

> 10th and 11th house).

>

> Chart details.

>

> 6 Aug 1980

> 12:03am

> bombay

>

> regards

> Ums

>

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June 5, 2003

Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Ums,

When you wish to analyze the conjunction or yuti of Shani and Mangal,

you should have in mind the following:

1. Shani holds exaltation sign of Mangal so he has ability to exalt

mangal by giving indurance, discipline, hard work and dedication

2. Mangal has ability to debilitate Shani by holding his neech sign, so

he can cut short longevity (Mrityukarak) can give laziness, lack of

discipline , inability to resist to stress, weakness etc.

You can watch it also the other way around. Vayu Tatwa (Shani ) can burn

up the flame of Agni Tatwa (Mangal ), while the Agni Tatwa of Mangal

will pollute

the clarity of Vayu Tatwa of Shani.

For that reson, when mangal is placed in 6th house for Mesh Lagna, it is

called dimannath and the person is intelligent, combating, hard working,

prone to disease or accidents, and will have unhappiness in marriage and

be too sensuous (Shukra is naturally debilitated in 6th house). Shani

as ruler of 10and 11th house which is further badhak gets aggriviated by

this conjunction, and thus there will be Dur Yoga (finance and

professional troubles) and chronical illness. Paternal

happiness will be lacking.

Best wishes

Zoran

planck12 wrote:

>Hello everyone,

>It is said that the saturn mars cojunction is a stressful one in a chart. Lets

take a case.

>

>Aries Acedent where mars is the lagnesh and mars is Debilated in D9.

>

>Mars is cojoined with saturn in virgo in the rashi chart in the 6th house. What

can one comment about it. I feel that since mars is lagnesh and the owner of

both a kona and kendra (the lagna) it will do good to the matters of the 6th

house. Also mars the lord of 8th house (aries acedent) and it forms a Veerpreta

Raja Yoga, being in inmical sign in virgo and also being debilated in the D9. It

forms a strong Veerpreta Raja Yoga.

>

>Im wondering if some of our learned members can shed some light on the saturn

mars combination in the 6th house. How would this prove for over all health and

proffession and wealth (since saturn is the lord of 10th and 11th house).

>

>Chart details.

>

>6 Aug 1980

>12:03am

>bombay

>

>regards

>Ums

>

>....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>Your use of is subject to

>

June 5, 2003

Dear Zoranji and all learned Gurus,

Thanks for the reply consdering the following chart

6 Aug 1980

12:03am

bombay

the native has a conjuction of saturn and mars in the 6th house. He has not

sufferend from any accidents infact he has been accident free. Health has been

good except for occasionally hiccups like flu that happen very rarely. Also

there has been no case of itches of skin problems for the native. Also he is not

very hard working and u suggested that mangal in 6th will give hardworkers. But

the native is not very hard working rather I would say he is on the lazier side

of life. But he is intelligent, having pursed his degree in mechanical

engineering he is doing a second degree in chemical engineering.

I do not excatly know about the proffessional life at this point but some

astrologers has suggested he would rise high in his proffession.

Since kendra lord saturn is in conjuction with kona lord mars.

Also there is a strong Virpeeta Raja Yoga since mars is debilated in D9 and

also being the lord of 8th house (rashi chart) he is in the 6th thereby forming

a strong Raja Yoga.

Can u please have a look at the chart and comment on Health,logetivity, wealth

and proffession.

It would be very appreciate of ur time since the chart is rather of a confusing

nature.

regards

Ums

vedic astrology, Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> wrote:

> Om Namo Narayanaya,

> Dear John,

> Have you seen my previous mail?

> I beleive Shani would fare worse. Thus Vata dosha would

> be aggriviated more.. Agni Tatwa would terribly pollute Vayu..

> Best wishes

> Zoran

>

> JR wrote:

>

> >Ums,

> >

> >Mars and Saturn in the 6th house can be considered a

> >Pitta Roga Yoga. This is yoga meaning that the

> >subject will suffer from pitta aggravation or

> >diseases, such as itches, eczema, etcetera.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >John R.

> >

> >--- planck12 <planck12> wrote:

> >

> >>Hello everyone,

> >>It is said that the saturn mars cojunction is a

> >>stressful one in a chart. Lets take a case.

> >>

> >>Aries Acedent where mars is the lagnesh and mars is

> >>Debilated in D9.

> >>

> >>Mars is cojoined with saturn in virgo in the rashi

> >>chart in the 6th house. What can one comment about

> >>it. I feel that since mars is lagnesh and the owner

> >>of both a kona and kendra (the lagna) it will do

> >>good to the matters of the 6th house. Also mars the

> >>lord of 8th house (aries acedent) and it forms a

> >>Veerpreta Raja Yoga, being in inmical sign in virgo

> >>and also being debilated in the D9. It forms a

> >>strong Veerpreta Raja Yoga.

> >>

> >>Im wondering if some of our learned members can shed

> >>some light on the saturn mars combination in the 6th

> >>house. How would this prove for over all health and

> >>proffession and wealth (since saturn is the lord of

> >>10th and 11th house).

> >>

> >>Chart details.

> >>

> >>6 Aug 1980

> >>12:03am

> >>bombay

> >>

> >>regards

> >>Ums

> >>

> >

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June 5, 2003

Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Ums,

bombay the native has a conjuction of saturn and mars in the 6th house. He has

not sufferend from any accidents infact he has been accident free. Health has

been good except for occasionally hiccups like flu that happen very rarely.

Also there has been no case of itches of skin problems for the native.

You see, he is too young. Chandra is further well placed being neecha ruler

of Mangal, so mangal fire is not so strong. Shani is in own navamsh which

gives strong innate immunity. However, vata dosha of vayu tatwa as I stated

in my previous mails will give hiccups and other vata imbalance. I didn't

mention skin problems at all. As far as the accidents, later since both

grahas are in 8th from Arudh lagna. Shani as badhak gives knees problems

in old age, and sceleton weakness. Further pakesh in the 4th house with surya

and rahu will give emotional turmoil which may result in heart imbalance

(vata disorders) confirmed by shani a bitter enemy of sun.

Also he is not very hard working and u suggested that mangal in 6th will give

hardworkers. But the native is not very hard working rather I would say he is

on the lazier side of life. But he is intelligent, having pursed his degree in

mechanical engineering he is doing a second degree in chemical engineering.

Hard working is general statement when lagnesh goes to 6th. In this case,

lagnesh is neecha in navamsa and ketu is sadharmi with lagnesh in 10th..

Terrible lazyness and inertia. Mangal is furher Atmakarak, and will teach

him hard in case he remaines in laziness. Mechanical engineering is indicated

by Lagnesh mars and Rahu in 4th. Rahu rules machines. Mangal aspects 9th

house as ruler of chemistry and 8th house (things in earth), while shukra

also aspects 9th house indicating chemistry too. Shukra is further in Mangal

sign as Palan Karta (Devata ruling professional aspect). Rahu dasha is responsible

for these subjects.

I do not excatly know about the proffessional life at this point but some

astrologers has suggested he would rise high in his proffession. Since kendra

lord saturn is in conjuction with kona lord mars. Also there is a strong

Virpeeta Raja Yoga since mars is debilated in D9 and also being the lord of 8th

house (rashi chart) he is in the 6th thereby forming a strong Raja Yoga.

ketu in 10th is not good since he will be willing to give up and frequently

change his job. Due to Shani own sign in Navamsh, he will manage to deal

with Dur Yoga and obstacles. Guru placement in 7th from arudha lagna will

give considerable success in Guru Mahadasha. Rahu is natural badhak in his

case and will make his mother a widow. Rahu is not bad by being in 6th from

Arudha Lagna, yet, he is terribly aggrivated by presence of Surya, bad combination

for Marriage. Upapada is in 12th from Arudha Lagna, so wife can make him

more spiritual but the rest is known.. not good indeed. Fasting on Satururdays

particularly falling on shasti and chaturdashi is very important. Shukra

cannot give him male issues- see Parashara

Can u please have a look at the chart and comment on Health,logetivity, wealth

and proffession. It would be very appreciate of ur time since the chart is

rather of a confusing nature.

Wealth can be more only in Guru Mahadasha, due to Chandra multrikon in 2nd

house. Guru further rules 11th from Arudha Lagna. This chart is of Madhya

Ayu, see Pratyak Tara- shani dasha can be dangerous...

Best wishes

Zoran

Om Namo Narayanaya,Dear John,Have you seen my previous mail?I beleive Shani

would fare worse. Thus Vata dosha wouldbe aggriviated more.. Agni Tatwa would

terribly pollute Vayu..Best wishesZoranJR wrote:

Ums,Mars and Saturn in the 6th house can be considered aPitta Roga Yoga. This is

yoga meaning that thesubject will suffer from pitta aggravation ordiseases, such

as itches, eczema, etcetera.Regards,John R.--- planck12 <planck12> wrote:

Hello everyone, It is said that the saturn mars cojunction is astressful one in

a chart. Lets take a case. Aries Acedent where mars is the lagnesh and mars

isDebilated in D9. Mars is cojoined with saturn in virgo in the rashichart in

the 6th house. What can one comment aboutit. I feel that since mars is lagnesh

and the ownerof both a kona and kendra (the lagna) it will dogood to the

matters of the 6th house. Also mars thelord of 8th house (aries acedent) and it

forms aVeerpreta Raja Yoga, being in inmical sign in virgoand also being

debilated in the D9. It forms astrong Veerpreta Raja Yoga. Im wondering if some

of our learned members can shedsome light on the saturn mars combination in the

6thhouse. How would this prove for over all health andproffession and wealth

(since saturn is the lord of10th and 11th house). Chart details. 6 Aug

198012:03

am bombay regardsUms

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June 5, 2003

Dear Zoran,

Thanks for the detailed anaylsis. I would like a few more points to mention. I

do not know if u can relate it to it or not. But it would be greatful if u could

explain them too.

1. The native won a $50,000 dollars lotter in April 20 2003.

2. U have mentioned about health and how sani and mars and sun and rahu play an

effect. But what about jupiter aspecting lagna and mars also aspecting lagna. I

think lagna in general gives an overall picture of a person's health and so on.

Matters from AL will tell how the world will view the person. For example if u

see AL in 11th that means the world vies the person as materalistic, if u see AL

in 5th house the world views him as children loving.

The two factors that Im presently look at in his chart is The lagna is aspected

by jupiter and mars making it one of the strongest houses in the chart. Lagna

represent health, wealth and general workings of the life. If lagana is weak

then Ive seen this causes much troubles to the native, where as if lagna is

strong the other problems in a chart get overshadowed.

The part of emotional turmoil is true but it has happened only during the

present time from back in 97 when he started running his saade saati. But

inspite of saade saati he has been able to win a $50,000 lottery got admitted to

a top prestigious university and has in general had a favarouble period. Some

health problems in regards to stomach and digestion as indicated with saturns

placement in the 6th house the house of digestive problems.

Another factor I wanted to bring into accont was the 6th house itself. The lord

of 6th house is placed in 11th from itself. Mercury the lord of sixth house is

in vargottma and sun + mercury is in good budhatigya yoga. Infact mercury is not

combust. Also in addition dipositor of the 4th house is exhlated making the

planets within it powerful. Yes, the precence of rahu is a bad factor being

placed in along with sun. But much of rahu's influence is reduced due to the

following

1.Exhlated moon dispositor of 4th house. Plus rahu in cancer which is a good

sign placement. Infact rahu has been responsible for his travel to many

different places. and I think jobwise he will be doing a lot of travelling.

2.Finally looking at the 10th house. 10th house lord saturn is in 9th from

itself in trikona. Cojoined with Lagnesh at the same time 10th is getting the

aspect of sun and mercury. I have seen charts where suns apsects on 10th are

much more beneficial then the placement of sun directly in 10th house.

On the issues of logetivity and health. I see the following factors once again

haveing a very strong influence. Firstly Jupiters aspect on the lagna, secondly

moon karka for health is exhlated and in rohini ashtreim, thirdly mars is

aspecting own house. (if U look at bill gates chart for example) he has

debilated sun in the 5th house along with venus and saturn all three planets

aspect the 11th house which is under aries but much of the 11th house strength

comes when mars its own lord aspects the 11th house of gains in addition to a

good strong Adhi yoga. But sun representing power is debiliated in his rashi

chart and moon is debilated in navamasha.

And finally in regards to this native. Saturn is aspecting the 8th house along

with exhlated moon apsecting the 8th house.

Could u please provide me some feedback on my way of analysis. By the way his

Mars Antar Dasha had been good as a child no health problems and no accidents

wot so ever. I have yet seen charts where accidnents are a commmon place in fact

some charts lead to accidents of natives even at a very young age and so on. But

in this case, with God's grace the native has been away and free from accidents.

So once again if U could please reason out the above rules as u preceive it and

let me know ur thoughts.

Much appreciative

best wishes

Ums

vedic astrology, Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@N...> wrote:

> Om Namo Narayanaya,

> Dear Ums,

>

> >bombay

> >

> >the native has a conjuction of saturn and mars in the 6th house. He has not

sufferend from any accidents infact he has been accident free. Health has been

good except for occasionally hiccups like flu that happen very rarely. Also

there has been no case of itches of skin problems for the native.

> >

> You see, he is too young. Chandra is further well placed being neecha

> ruler of Mangal, so mangal fire is not so strong. Shani is in own

> navamsh which gives strong innate immunity. However, vata dosha of vayu

> tatwa as I stated in my previous mails will give hiccups and other vata

> imbalance. I didn't mention skin problems at all. As far as the

> accidents, later since both grahas are in 8th from Arudh lagna. Shani

> as badhak gives knees problems in old age, and sceleton weakness.

> Further pakesh in the 4th house with surya and rahu will give emotional

> turmoil which may result in heart imbalance (vata disorders) confirmed

> by shani a bitter enemy of sun.

>

> > Also he is not very hard working and u suggested that mangal in 6th will

give hardworkers. But the native is not very hard working rather I would say he

is on the lazier side of life. But he is intelligent, having pursed his degree

in mechanical engineering he is doing a second degree in chemical engineering.

> >

> Hard working is general statement when lagnesh goes to 6th. In this

> case, lagnesh is neecha in navamsa and ketu is sadharmi with lagnesh in

> 10th.. Terrible lazyness and inertia. Mangal is furher Atmakarak, and

> will teach him hard in case he remaines in laziness. Mechanical

> engineering is indicated by Lagnesh mars and Rahu in 4th. Rahu rules

> machines. Mangal aspects 9th house as ruler of chemistry and 8th house

> (things in earth), while shukra also aspects 9th house indicating

> chemistry too. Shukra is further in Mangal sign as Palan Karta (Devata

> ruling professional aspect). Rahu dasha is responsible for these subjects.

>

> >

> >I do not excatly know about the proffessional life at this point but some

astrologers has suggested he would rise high in his proffession.

> >Since kendra lord saturn is in conjuction with kona lord mars.

> >

> >Also there is a strong Virpeeta Raja Yoga since mars is debilated in D9 and

also being the lord of 8th house (rashi chart) he is in the 6th thereby forming

a strong Raja Yoga.

> >

> ketu in 10th is not good since he will be willing to give up and

> frequently change his job. Due to Shani own sign in Navamsh, he will

> manage to deal with Dur Yoga and obstacles. Guru placement in 7th from

> arudha lagna will give considerable success in Guru Mahadasha. Rahu is

> natural badhak in his case and will make his mother a widow. Rahu is not

> bad by being in 6th from Arudha Lagna, yet, he is terribly aggrivated by

> presence of Surya, bad combination for Marriage. Upapada is in 12th from

> Arudha Lagna, so wife can make him more spiritual but the rest is

> known.. not good indeed. Fasting on Satururdays particularly falling on

> shasti and chaturdashi is very important. Shukra cannot give him male

> issues- see Parashara

>

> >

> >Can u please have a look at the chart and comment on Health,logetivity,

wealth and proffession.

> >

> >It would be very appreciate of ur time since the chart is rather of a

confusing nature.

> >

> Wealth can be more only in Guru Mahadasha, due to Chandra multrikon in

> 2nd house. Guru further rules 11th from Arudha Lagna. This chart is of

> Madhya Ayu, see Pratyak Tara- shani dasha can be dangerous...

>

> Best wishes

> Zoran

>

> >>Om Namo Narayanaya,

> >>Dear John,

> >>Have you seen my previous mail?

> >>I beleive Shani would fare worse. Thus Vata dosha would

> >>be aggriviated more.. Agni Tatwa would terribly pollute Vayu..

> >>Best wishes

> >>Zoran

> >>

> >>JR wrote:

> >>

> >>>Ums,

> >>>

> >>>Mars and Saturn in the 6th house can be considered a

> >>>Pitta Roga Yoga. This is yoga meaning that the

> >>>subject will suffer from pitta aggravation or

> >>>diseases, such as itches, eczema, etcetera.

> >>>

> >>>Regards,

> >>>

> >>>John R.

> >>>

> >>>--- planck12 <planck12> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>Hello everyone,

> >>>>It is said that the saturn mars cojunction is a

> >>>>stressful one in a chart. Lets take a case.

> >>>>

> >>>>Aries Acedent where mars is the lagnesh and mars is

> >>>>Debilated in D9.

> >>>>

> >>>>Mars is cojoined with saturn in virgo in the rashi

> >>>>chart in the 6th house. What can one comment about

> >>>>it. I feel that since mars is lagnesh and the owner

> >>>>of both a kona and kendra (the lagna) it will do

> >>>>good to the matters of the 6th house. Also mars the

> >>>>lord of 8th house (aries acedent) and it forms a

> >>>>Veerpreta Raja Yoga, being in inmical sign in virgo

> >>>>and also being debilated in the D9. It forms a

> >>>>strong Veerpreta Raja Yoga.

> >>>>

> >>>>Im wondering if some of our learned members can shed

> >>>>some light on the saturn mars combination in the 6th

> >>>>house. How would this prove for over all health and

> >>>>proffession and wealth (since saturn is the lord of

> >>>>10th and 11th house).

> >>>>

> >>>>Chart details.

> >>>>

> >>>>6 Aug 1980

> >>>>12:03am

> >>>>bombay

> >>>>

> >>>>regards

> >>>>Ums

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook.

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> >>>

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> >>>

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> >>>

> >

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> >

> >Your use of is subject to

> >

June 5, 2003

Dear Zoranji,

Also as I was re reading ur last response. U mentioned that wealth during

jupiter Mahadasa. But as I mentioned he won a $50,000 lottery during april 20

2003 and he is running rahu/venus dasa infact both of them should be techincally

bad. On top of that he is running his saade saati which should be more bad let

along wealth gaining.

U mentioned venus cannot give male issues. But it is mentioned in BHPS that

Jupiter in 5th blesses one with a sun. Also it is mentioned that natural melfics

such as mars and saturn are VERY well placed in upachaya houses. Infact the

books gives 6th house as a good placement of mars and saturn since it gives

development with age and growth.