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I am happy to see your mail.I think that the remedy suggested is the most

accepted remedy for child birth.I wish that by His grace the couple should be

lessed with an illustrious son soon.

Wishing all the best for the couple,regards,

Jagannathan.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote:

||Hare Rama Krishna||||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Suparna,Yes, Worship of

Santana Gopala or Bala Gopala is best. The following prayer is from Sanjay

Rath's article and is reproduced below for your attention. I hope this helps.

May Lord Jagannath grace you both.Santana – Gopala Mantra (Narada Rishi;

Anustup Chanddah):Devakisutam Govindam Vasudevam JagatpatimDehim-Tanayam

Krishna-twa-maham Saranagatah.Remarks: Meditate on Lord Krishna rising from the

sea in a chariot with Arjuna and bringing a baby son (to us). It is best to

start this mantra in a Holy place near the sea, preferably Puri as the mantra

specifically refus to the Jagannath Rupa (form) with the word "Jagatpatim". One

lakh Japa followed by a proper pooja as described above gives an illustrious and

dutiful son.The above excerpt (with the

original Sanskrit text) is available at the end of the

webpage:http://www.srath.com/lesson/saptamsa_2.htmDear Krishna (quietwolf1972),

No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in the efficacy of

prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in finding the correct remedy after

diagnosing the problem, then there is no use of diagnosing the problem. Refer

Sanjay's book on Vedic remedies in astrology (VRA).Dear Jagannathan and

Vishwanadham,Kudos to you both for making this case interesting. You can refer

to the weblink above for more on this topic.regardsHari--- In

vedic astrology, suparna banerjee wrote:> If u can also speak

of some remedies/puja, we shall do our best.> Kamal kapoor , astrogist from

Delhi prescribed me to worship > santan gopal jantra. Pl. suggest me ,if u

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In saptamsa-2 , Pandit Rath has also prescribed if qualified ,to chant jala

beeja prefixed to gayatri mantra . Pl. explain about the qualifying and the

mantra .

All the mantras given to me should we both chant ?

Thanks.

Suparna.onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote:

||Hare Rama Krishna||||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Suparna,Yes, Worship of

Santana Gopala or Bala Gopala is best. The following prayer is from Sanjay

Rath's article and is reproduced below for your attention. I hope this helps.

May Lord Jagannath grace you both.Santana – Gopala Mantra (Narada Rishi;

Anustup Chanddah):Devakisutam Govindam Vasudevam JagatpatimDehim-Tanayam

Krishna-twa-maham Saranagatah.Remarks: Meditate on Lord Krishna rising from the

sea in a chariot with Arjuna and bringing a baby son (to us). It is best to

start this mantra in a Holy place near the sea, preferably Puri as the mantra

specifically refus to the Jagannath Rupa (form) with the word "Jagatpatim". One

lakh Japa followed by a proper pooja as described above gives an illustrious and

dutiful son.The above excerpt (with

the original Sanskrit text) is available at the end of the

webpage:http://www.srath.com/lesson/saptamsa_2.htmDear Krishna (quietwolf1972),

No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in the efficacy of

prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in finding the correct remedy after

diagnosing the problem, then there is no use of diagnosing the problem. Refer

Sanjay's book on Vedic remedies in astrology (VRA).Dear Jagannathan and

Vishwanadham,Kudos to you both for making this case interesting. You can refer

to the weblink above for more on this topic.regardsHari--- In

vedic astrology, suparna banerjee <suparna1000> wrote:> If

u can also speak of some remedies/puja, we shall do our best.> Kamal kapoor ,

astrogist from Delhi prescribed me to worship > santan

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Dear Hari,

Would you please clarify your stand on this.

In the first post you quite correctly comment: No point in going to a doctor if

the doctor doesnt believe in the efficacy of prescribing medicinesTrue. /Find

another who will know what he is doing/

But then you seem to go further and limit remedies to only those from VRA- am I wrong?

 

Sanjay, at the first place, never said that- it's lousy assumtion that it's derived from VRA.

I don't think you meant that- but honestly, this is just my assumtion, because

you haven't been explicit at all.One way or another, or in-between, please

clarify your opinion.

Warmest wishes/and thanks for good posts recently!!!/

Anna

onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote:

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Krishna,I will leave this discussion at this

point. However, I recommend that you read Sanjays book VRA and decide for

yourself. I urge you to have an open mind and explore the many spiritual

dimensions that are possible in Vedic astrology.regardsHari--- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

Hari,> > I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological >

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in > astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense > of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than > good. > > Best,> > Krishna> > >

> Dear Krishna,> > > > I do

not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so > > kind as to

explain?> > > > regards> > Hari> > > > vedic astrology,

"quietwolf1972" > > <quietwolf1972> wrote:> > > Hari,> > > > > > To carry

your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to > > > pretend to be a

doctor when you are not one. It is your > > prerogative > > > if you wish to

believe in mantras and other astrological > remedies. > > I > > > do not.> > >

> > > Best,> > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > >

> > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in > >

the > > > > efficacy of prescribing

medicines. If you dont believe in > > finding > > > > the correct remedy after

diagnosing the problem, then there is > > no > > > > use of diagnosing the

problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic > > > remedies > > > > in astrology

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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

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Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies. > I > > do

not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > >

> > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in > the > > >

efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in > finding > > > the

correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is > no > > > use of

diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in

astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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dear mr. kumar,

plz read brihat parshar's hora sastra. there is a chapter on curses, which

tells abt various curses related to childlessness. apart from knowledge that u

get abt curses, u'll also learn abt various remedies that mahrishi parasar

prascribes for childlessness.

not just here , but at many places u'll find such "prescriptions" .

we can discuss karma & prarabdha too.. u can also read abt karma & destiny from

gita. it will clarify all doubts

regards

prashantvijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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should one go to doctor or not when he feels sick?

regards

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kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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I am happy to see your mail.May I say that you must first of all consult a

doctor if you happen to fall sick.That is what I strongly advise anyone to do.

The doctor (Physician) is also but an agent of God only.The great science of

Medicine itself is a boon granted to humanity by the all Merciful God.If

doctors cant cure a particular disease ,the patient is at liberty to seek the

help of an adept in the field of astrology and find out the remedy?.The

patient is at liberty to seek and pray for Divime intervention?.

With best wishes,

With pranams to gurus,

Regards,

Jagannathan.prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote:

may i ask u a question?

should one go to doctor or not when he feels sick?

regards

prashant

kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

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dear Prashant

Try something else first!

Annaprashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote:

may i ask u a question?

should one go to doctor or not when he feels sick?

regards

prashant

kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krsihna,

If you are not beleiving in remedies,then leave it.I dont want to argue with

such kind of people who does not have belief in remedial measures.Now you have

asked me whether my remedial measures have worked ,but this has to be answered

by the people whom I gave them remedial measures and the results they got if

they used them strictly as per procedure.But anyhow I again press you that

without remdies there is no Astrology at all. Did you not read Sunils mail sent

just yesterday about curing of cancer ? just ask him and I dont want to discuss

those things.

I have joined this list to learn Astrology and to impart knowledge which I have,

to the interested members.I dont want to be honoured and I am doing service for

the needy people.May be you may not believe,I am daily getting a lot of mails

to my personal mail box to analyse the charts and give remedies.

This will be my last reply to your mail.

With Sri Hari vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 wrote:

Dear Ramdas Rao,> Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive

in Astrological Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? There

need not be a use for everything that we do. Why do we dance, listen to music

or walk in the woods? I dabble in astrology because I am curious and it is a

fun intellectual exercise.>Now for example, a unmarried girl's father

approaches you to ask when his daughter will get married as the age is

increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then what will be your

explanation to his query? Is that you tell him that in his daughter's

chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it may delay

further? If your car does not start it is useful to know that it is caused by a

dead battery and not a blown fuse. There are many ways to fix

the battery but I do not believe that chanting mantras is one of them. >Do you

not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic effects of planets ? Astrology

without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of Jyotish.This is your own

opinion. I do not agree with you. Astrology = prediction. Whether some one can

use that prediction to right the course of their life depends on many factors

including the person's capability to understand their predicament.> As per my

knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18 years and I

have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have helped the

common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems solved at the

earliest.> For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many

experienced Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies

working.But onething is that the Astrologer should

follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna Margam and then only his

remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.How do you know that your

mantras actually helped these people? At the most, I see them giving people

moral support during tough times. But this can also be done by talking to an

older mature person in the family or (in the case of western countries) talking

to a psychologist or counselor.It has been entertaining, but I hope we can end

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Here are my 2cents -

 

When we talk about mantras we are not talking about repairing a car battery

(Although there is actually someone out there doing car astrology (Search

google)). Anyway, It's a well known fact even according to "modern" science

that sound directly impacts the psyche of an individual. For example, your

mother's voice, someone screaming at you, etc all evoke certain emotions. Those

emotions may "will" your body to do something. Similarily, when most people hear

music (essentially sounds repeating, beats, rhythm, meter etc) they like, they

respond in a positive manner sometimes making him/her happy, overjoyed or even

ecstatic. Which is why almost everyone "likes" listening to music although

there seems to be no apparent use for it - like you say, or is there?

 

There definitely exists the possibility that mantrams can actually work, atleast

is making someone happy. Common, it doesn't take a genius to figure this one

out.

 

Regards,

 

- Jaiquietwolf1972 wrote:

Dear Ramdas Rao,> Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive

in Astrological Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? There

need not be a use for everything that we do. Why do we dance, listen to music

or walk in the woods? I dabble in astrology because I am curious and it is a

fun intellectual exercise.>Now for example, a unmarried girl's father

approaches you to ask when his daughter will get married as the age is

increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then what will be your

explanation to his query? Is that you tell him that in his daughter's

chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it may delay

further? If your car does not start it is useful to know that it is caused by a

dead battery and not a blown fuse. There are many ways to fix the

battery but I do not believe that chanting mantras is one of them. >Do you not

think of any remedy for reducing the malefic effects of planets ? Astrology

without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of Jyotish.This is your own

opinion. I do not agree with you. Astrology = prediction. Whether some one can

use that prediction to right the course of their life depends on many factors

including the person's capability to understand their predicament.> As per my

knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18 years and I

have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have helped the

common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems solved at the

earliest.> For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many

experienced Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies

working.But onething is that the Astrologer should follow some

rules which are mentioned in Prashna Margam and then only his remedeis will work

and will benefit the consultant.How do you know that your mantras actually

helped these people? At the most, I see them giving people moral support during

tough times. But this can also be done by talking to an older mature person in

the family or (in the case of western countries) talking to a psychologist or

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Annaquietwolf1972 wrote:

Dear Ramdas Rao,> Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive

in Astrological Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? There

need not be a use for everything that we do. Why do we dance, listen to music

or walk in the woods? I dabble in astrology because I am curious and it is a

fun intellectual exercise.>Now for example, a unmarried girl's father

approaches you to ask when his daughter will get married as the age is

increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then what will be your

explanation to his query? Is that you tell him that in his daughter's

chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it may delay

further? If your car does not start it is useful to know that it is caused by a

dead battery and not a blown fuse. There are many ways to fix

the battery but I do not believe that chanting mantras is one of them. >Do you

not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic effects of planets ? Astrology

without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of Jyotish.This is your own

opinion. I do not agree with you. Astrology = prediction. Whether some one can

use that prediction to right the course of their life depends on many factors

including the person's capability to understand their predicament.> As per my

knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18 years and I

have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have helped the

common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems solved at the

earliest.> For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many

experienced Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies

working.But onething is that the Astrologer should

follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna Margam and then only his

remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.How do you know that your

mantras actually helped these people? At the most, I see them giving people

moral support during tough times. But this can also be done by talking to an

older mature person in the family or (in the case of western countries) talking

to a psychologist or counselor.It has been entertaining, but I hope we can end

this argument in harmony and part ways agreeing to

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Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I am happy to see your views which pertain to the ancient age where morals of

those seeking blessings and those of great Rishis were very high and they had

the power of blessings due to own tapasys. However, such is not the case now.

 

I still maintain that if the shanti of a planet has to work, the chart should

have a provision for the same, otherwise it is just not possible.

 

You must have come across many cases where couples do not have children although

being medically fit and any amount of graha-shanti doesss not work. What is this

? If you correctly read the chart, the couple may not be having any provision of

having children.

 

I further maintain that we should understand how to examine a chart !!

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

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Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies. > I > > do

not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > >

> > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in > the > > >

efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in > finding > > > the

correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is > no > > > use of

diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in

astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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Dear Mr. Prashant,

 

Please read my views in the reply to Mr. Jagannathan.

 

I have to tell you that every shloka in astrological texts are the independent

bricks which have to be combined together to make a entity for prediction.

 

I am fully aware about BPHS remedies and some cases about chaturdashi births etc.

 

Please find shlokas indicating the requirement in a chart for the graha-shantis to work.

 

I have a humble feeling to this group of discussions that they should try to go

deeper to the subject of astrology which would be more fruitful for all.

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

oops, sorry from my side too for intervening, i also have something to share,

dear mr. kumar,

plz read brihat parshar's hora sastra. there is a chapter on curses, which

tells abt various curses related to childlessness. apart from knowledge that u

get abt curses, u'll also learn abt various remedies that mahrishi parasar

prascribes for childlessness.

not just here , but at many places u'll find such "prescriptions" .

we can discuss karma & prarabdha too.. u can also read abt karma & destiny from

gita. it will clarify all doubts

regards

prashantvijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies. > I > > do

not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > >

> > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in > the > > >

efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in > finding > > > the

correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is > no > > > use of

diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in

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Dear Mr. Prashant,

 

You may go to a doctor and note the time when you enter his chamber for

consultation. Make a chart of that moment and delineate as follows.

 

Note the disposition of 4th house about the skill of the doctor for the disease

in question and look to the 5-11th house for your cure.

 

I hope, being a student of astrology, this question was not warranted.

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:15 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

may i ask u a question?

should one go to doctor or not when he feels sick?

regards

prashant

kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies. > I > > do

not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > >

> > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in > the > > >

efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in > finding > > > the

correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is > no > > > use of

diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in

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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krsihna,

I dont have any answer for your query but better you write to Sunil John who

send me this Lady ( Linda ) and I sent her the Mantra for curing Cancer as a

remedial measure which has helped her.You are simply arguing and want to make

believe the memebers of this list that Mantras wont work.It is better read

Mantra Shastra under the guidance of a GURU and you will come to know what is

MANTRA.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 wrote:

Dear Ramdas Rao,I fail to follow the logic in your mail. First you say: > Dear

Krsihna,> If you are not beleiving in remedies,then leave it.I dont want to

argue with such kind of people who does not have belief in remedial

measures.And then you say:>Now you have asked me whether my remedial measures

have worked ,but this has to be answered by the people whom I gave them

remedial measures and the results they got if they used them strictly as per

procedure. But anyhow I again press you that without remdies there is no

Astrology at all. In the same note you: (a) declare that you do not want to

argue with me and then (b) insist that I accept a view which is not acceptable

to me. This is inconsistent reasoning. >Did you not read Sunils mail sent just

yesterday about curing of

cancer? just ask him and I dont want to discuss those things.I am glad that the

cancer was cured. But this does not prove much beyond the fact that your

mantras helped support the lady in question during a difficult phase of life.

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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Vijay Kumar,

Thanks for keeping the records of charts handled by me.Ok ,now you tell me in

which chart,the marriage has not taken place ? And are you sure that they

followed the remedial measures as suggested by me ?

Please confirm and write back to me.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

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vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

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Dear Vijayakuamar garu,

I am happy to see your mail.As you have said ,there should be enough and

convincing indications to think of resorting to performing Pariharas.

 

We have Nadis.Any couple who may be eager can consult for instance sage

Agasthyas Nadi which is available in several places before finally coming to a

declared conclusion that their fate is sealed with reference to giving birth to

a child and that too a son whose birth is so very important and essential for

a Hindu.I would ,under the circumstances suggest any one to consult Agasthya

nadi.Nadis suggest Pariharas .They ask the consultant to go to temples of two

or three gods/goddesses and perform archana etc.

They suggest to look into mantrakandam to ward off evil forces such as Billi Soonyam etc.

 

As age advances ,it is better Saint Agasthya is consulted as a case of

emergency.The sooner the better lest child bith is denied due to delay.Sage

Vasistas nadi may be consulted .Kousika nadi is also there.Ever somany nadis

are there,readily available .One can go to Chinna- kanchipuram near chennai I

heard that regular Tmail language lecturers from the near by Govt college do

nadi reading as part time job there.I had been to kanchipuram myself for

several times .Even in Chennai Nadi readers are there.

People go to great men of the presnt day like .His Holiness Sankaracharya of

Kamakoti, and so on.Such sages bless their devoties.This has is a daily

occurence.Am I not right?.

 

If all efforts fail then the parents can think of adopting a son etc.

 

 

I wish you all the best.

With pranams to gurus.

With regards,

Jagannathan.

 

 

 

vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I am happy to see your views which pertain to the ancient age where morals of

those seeking blessings and those of great Rishis were very high and they had

the power of blessings due to own tapasys. However, such is not the case now.

 

I still maintain that if the shanti of a planet has to work, the chart should

have a provision for the same, otherwise it is just not possible.

 

You must have come across many cases where couples do not have children although

being medically fit and any amount of graha-shanti doesss not work. What is this

? If you correctly read the chart, the couple may not be having any provision of

having children.

 

I further maintain that we should understand how to examine a chart !!

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

-

kapisthalam jagannathan

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

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Dear Mr. Rao,

 

I have asked the chart from your files, I do not maintain your files !

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

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Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:40 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Vijay Kumar,

Thanks for keeping the records of charts handled by me.Ok ,now you tell me in

which chart,the marriage has not taken place ? And are you sure that they

followed the remedial measures as suggested by me ?

Please confirm and write back to me.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies. > I > > do

not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > >

> > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in > the > > >

efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in > finding > > > the

correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is > no > > > use of

diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in

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Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I do not have personal experience of Nadis but I do respect them. Your views are good.

 

If the pariharas are looked in layman's angle, it seems to me that a parihara

for a planet is the karma done to ward-off the existing evils in relation to

the cause under scrutiny. Now the thing which is important is whether the

parihara is in proportion to the affliction. In case if one has to cross a

trench of 20 ft width, the one who can take a long jump of more than 20 ft may

cross it , otherwise not. Perhaps, this logic applies to pariharas as said.

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

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kapisthalam jagannathan

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:18 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Vijayakuamar garu,

I am happy to see your mail.As you have said ,there should be enough and

convincing indications to think of resorting to performing Pariharas.

 

We have Nadis.Any couple who may be eager can consult for instance sage

Agasthyas Nadi which is available in several places before finally coming to a

declared conclusion that their fate is sealed with reference to giving birth to

a child and that too a son whose birth is so very important and essential for

a Hindu.I would ,under the circumstances suggest any one to consult Agasthya

nadi.Nadis suggest Pariharas .They ask the consultant to go to temples of two

or three gods/goddesses and perform archana etc.

They suggest to look into mantrakandam to ward off evil forces such as Billi Soonyam etc.

 

As age advances ,it is better Saint Agasthya is consulted as a case of

emergency.The sooner the better lest child bith is denied due to delay.Sage

Vasistas nadi may be consulted .Kousika nadi is also there.Ever somany nadis

are there,readily available .One can go to Chinna- kanchipuram near chennai I

heard that regular Tmail language lecturers from the near by Govt college do

nadi reading as part time job there.I had been to kanchipuram myself for

several times .Even in Chennai Nadi readers are there.

People go to great men of the presnt day like .His Holiness Sankaracharya of

Kamakoti, and so on.Such sages bless their devoties.This has is a daily

occurence.Am I not right?.

 

If all efforts fail then the parents can think of adopting a son etc.

 

 

I wish you all the best.

With pranams to gurus.

With regards,

Jagannathan.

 

 

 

vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I am happy to see your views which pertain to the ancient age where morals of

those seeking blessings and those of great Rishis were very high and they had

the power of blessings due to own tapasys. However, such is not the case now.

 

I still maintain that if the shanti of a planet has to work, the chart should

have a provision for the same, otherwise it is just not possible.

 

You must have come across many cases where couples do not have children although

being medically fit and any amount of graha-shanti doesss not work. What is this

? If you correctly read the chart, the couple may not be having any provision of

having children.

 

I further maintain that we should understand how to examine a chart !!

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

-

kapisthalam jagannathan

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other astrological remedies. > I > > do

not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > > Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > >

> > > No point in going to a doctor if the doctor doesnt believe in > the > > >

efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you dont believe in > finding > > > the

correct remedy after diagnosing the problem, then there is > no > > > use of

diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in

astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Vijay Kumar Ji,

Normally I am not keeping too much records as it has crossed more than 1000.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

I have asked the chart from your files, I do not maintain your files !

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:40 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Vijay Kumar,

Thanks for keeping the records of charts handled by me.Ok ,now you tell me in

which chart,the marriage has not taken place ? And are you sure that they

followed the remedial measures as suggested by me ?

Please confirm and write back to me.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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Would you pl. kindly send me any particulars of Nadi readers herein USA? If in

India I can try to contact If I have the details.Do you think in my case I

should go for Nadi reading and archanas apart from mantras prescribed (santan

gopal mantra, ganesha mantra, bhuma santan mantra, gayatri mantra).Pl. advise

me.

My husband's time is:

2:15 AM IST night February 25,1963 monday at Calcutta, west bengal , India. If

you kindly consider his career/job prospect, education like MBA for prediction.

our green card is also under processing for a long time. I really thank you for

your valuable time.

Suparna.kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Vijayakuamar garu,

I am happy to see your mail.As you have said ,there should be enough and

convincing indications to think of resorting to performing Pariharas.

 

We have Nadis.Any couple who may be eager can consult for instance sage

Agasthyas Nadi which is available in several places before finally coming to a

declared conclusion that their fate is sealed with reference to giving birth to

a child and that too a son whose birth is so very important and essential for

a Hindu.I would ,under the circumstances suggest any one to consult Agasthya

nadi.Nadis suggest Pariharas .They ask the consultant to go to temples of two

or three gods/goddesses and perform archana etc.

They suggest to look into mantrakandam to ward off evil forces such as Billi Soonyam etc.

 

As age advances ,it is better Saint Agasthya is consulted as a case of

emergency.The sooner the better lest child bith is denied due to delay.Sage

Vasistas nadi may be consulted .Kousika nadi is also there.Ever somany nadis

are there,readily available .One can go to Chinna- kanchipuram near chennai I

heard that regular Tmail language lecturers from the near by Govt college do

nadi reading as part time job there.I had been to kanchipuram myself for

several times .Even in Chennai Nadi readers are there.

People go to great men of the presnt day like .His Holiness Sankaracharya of

Kamakoti, and so on.Such sages bless their devoties.This has is a daily

occurence.Am I not right?.

 

If all efforts fail then the parents can think of adopting a son etc.

 

 

I wish you all the best.

With pranams to gurus.

With regards,

Jagannathan.

 

 

 

vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I am happy to see your views which pertain to the ancient age where morals of

those seeking blessings and those of great Rishis were very high and they had

the power of blessings due to own tapasys. However, such is not the case now.

 

I still maintain that if the shanti of a planet has to work, the chart should

have a provision for the same, otherwise it is just not possible.

 

You must have come across many cases where couples do not have children although

being medically fit and any amount of graha-shanti doesss not work. What is this

? If you correctly read the chart, the couple may not be having any provision of

having children.

 

I further maintain that we should understand how to examine a chart !!

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

-

kapisthalam jagannathan

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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Dear Sir,

I agree with you in toto.

 

In Nadis , the consultant is advised to do pariharams with particular reference

to his natal chart,I believe and even today , I am at a loss to understand the

precise method of the Rishis.To my knowledge they havent adduced astrological

reason (s) for doing so.We have to depend on our elders in this regard for our

better understanding.This is my opinion.

..In saptha Rishi Nadi in some cases astrological reasons are cited for

infertility.Of course in certain cases Rishis have declared that there are no

remedies atall.It appears to me that they had identified by some method , the

bad act(s) perpetrated by an individual in the past life and then the

corresponding pariharas were suggested in the case of each individual

separately.As it is, we may find out the +ve and -ve points from an

understanding of a given horoscope but is there a method to asses

quantitatively/qualitatively, papakarmas accumulated by an individual .?.Or

can we say with any amount of certainity that this particular person did this

particular sin in specific terms?.

In one case Sage Bhrigu says,"in his last birth he gave trouble to a calf of a

buffalo and so he will suffer from wind troubles in this life and have a

restless life.He can over come this sin by visiting Banaras and having a holy

dip in the famous Ganga waters etc" -Vide BhriguNandi nadi page 286 revised

edition 1991.

That is why I feel that our efforts are unlikely to be complete if we fail to

consult Nadi while seeking remedial measures.

..Perhaps ,what we are having now are only the bones and ashes of the past

civilisation which existed during the days of the Rishis with particular

reference to the great science of Astrology.Our tradition and practice seem to

have changed?.

To cite one example for a possible change (as I have felt like drawing your kind

attention to this) ,

It is a common practice that name of a nascent baby is given in accordance with

the letter assigned to the nakshatra padam at which the baby is born.How about

Shri Rama ?.His constellation is said to be Punarvasu.But the letters

"Ra,Ri,even Sri, etc" are assigned to Chitta.How about the name of

Sri.Lakshman?Take any character,perhaps.Obviously therefore this system of

naming was not in vogue at the time of Ramayanam.It seems to me that this

system of naming is only of later origin?.

Therefore I feel that Nadis have their own place and they are a gift from our

great Sages to suffering Humanity for amelioration.?

With pranams to Gurus.With regards,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I do not have personal experience of Nadis but I do respect them. Your views are good.

 

If the pariharas are looked in layman's angle, it seems to me that a parihara

for a planet is the karma done to ward-off the existing evils in relation to

the cause under scrutiny. Now the thing which is important is whether the

parihara is in proportion to the affliction. In case if one has to cross a

trench of 20 ft width, the one who can take a long jump of more than 20 ft may

cross it , otherwise not. Perhaps, this logic applies to pariharas as said.

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

---- Original Message -----

kapisthalam jagannathan

vedic astrology

Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:18 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Vijayakuamar garu,

I am happy to see your mail.As you have said ,there should be enough and

convincing indications to think of resorting to performing Pariharas.

 

We have Nadis.Any couple who may be eager can consult for instance sage

Agasthyas Nadi which is available in several places before finally coming to a

declared conclusion that their fate is sealed with reference to giving birth to

a child and that too a son whose birth is so very important and essential for

a Hindu.I would ,under the circumstances suggest any one to consult Agasthya

nadi.Nadis suggest Pariharas .They ask the consultant to go to temples of two

or three gods/goddesses and perform archana etc.

They suggest to look into mantrakandam to ward off evil forces such as Billi Soonyam etc.

 

As age advances ,it is better Saint Agasthya is consulted as a case of

emergency.The sooner the better lest child bith is denied due to delay.Sage

Vasistas nadi may be consulted .Kousika nadi is also there.Ever somany nadis

are there,readily available .One can go to Chinna- kanchipuram near chennai I

heard that regular Tmail language lecturers from the near by Govt college do

nadi reading as part time job there.I had been to kanchipuram myself for

several times .Even in Chennai Nadi readers are there.

People go to great men of the presnt day like .His Holiness Sankaracharya of

Kamakoti, and so on.Such sages bless their devoties.This has is a daily

occurence.Am I not right?.

 

If all efforts fail then the parents can think of adopting a son etc.

 

 

I wish you all the best.

With pranams to gurus.

With regards,

Jagannathan.

 

 

 

vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I am happy to see your views which pertain to the ancient age where morals of

those seeking blessings and those of great Rishis were very high and they had

the power of blessings due to own tapasys. However, such is not the case now.

 

I still maintain that if the shanti of a planet has to work, the chart should

have a provision for the same, otherwise it is just not possible.

 

You must have come across many cases where couples do not have children although

being medically fit and any amount of graha-shanti doesss not work. What is this

? If you correctly read the chart, the couple may not be having any provision of

having children.

 

I further maintain that we should understand how to examine a chart !!

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

-

kapisthalam jagannathan

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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Respected sister,

Please go to Google search and contact sre kagabujandar nadi astrological

research for getting in formation of address,the amount which they may collect

for reading of your case etc.Through Google search you may try to find out about

other nadi readers in India? or abroad.consulting Nadi may be done later or at

the appropriate time.

 

In the meanwhile,you may do gayatri mantra japam etc.as suggested by Gurus.You

may get clarification from them once again before starting if you have any

doubt.You can discuss the matter with your parents and decide further course of

action.

You may see the effect of the pariharas suggested to you.

If you desire to get your nadi read over to you,

The podukkandam gives you predictions about your life in general.Secondly, Putra

kandam will tell you about child birth ,whether indicated or not etc.Lastly

parihara kandam tells you about pariharas to be done etc.

 

Please type the words,"nadi astrology "in the Google search.Read the experiences

of Sri.Pemma Raju VR Rayadu for some understanding of nadis.

With regards and best wishes,

Jagannathansuparna banerjee <suparna1000 > wrote:

Dear Jagannathanji,

Would you pl. kindly send me any particulars of Nadi readers herein USA? If in

India I can try to contact If I have the details.Do you think in my case I

should go for Nadi reading and archanas apart from mantras prescribed (santan

gopal mantra, ganesha mantra, bhuma santan mantra, gayatri mantra).Pl. advise

me.

My husband's time is:

2:15 AM IST night February 25,1963 monday at Calcutta, west bengal , India. If

you kindly consider his career/job prospect, education like MBA for prediction.

our green card is also under processing for a long time. I really thank you for

your valuable time.

Suparna.kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Vijayakuamar garu,

I am happy to see your mail.As you have said ,there should be enough and

convincing indications to think of resorting to performing Pariharas.

 

We have Nadis.Any couple who may be eager can consult for instance sage

Agasthyas Nadi which is available in several places before finally coming to a

declared conclusion that their fate is sealed with reference to giving birth to

a child and that too a son whose birth is so very important and essential for

a Hindu.I would ,under the circumstances suggest any one to consult Agasthya

nadi.Nadis suggest Pariharas .They ask the consultant to go to temples of two

or three gods/goddesses and perform archana etc.

They suggest to look into mantrakandam to ward off evil forces such as Billi Soonyam etc.

 

As age advances ,it is better Saint Agasthya is consulted as a case of

emergency.The sooner the better lest child bith is denied due to delay.Sage

Vasistas nadi may be consulted .Kousika nadi is also there.Ever somany nadis

are there,readily available .One can go to Chinna- kanchipuram near chennai I

heard that regular Tmail language lecturers from the near by Govt college do

nadi reading as part time job there.I had been to kanchipuram myself for

several times .Even in Chennai Nadi readers are there.

People go to great men of the presnt day like .His Holiness Sankaracharya of

Kamakoti, and so on.Such sages bless their devoties.This has is a daily

occurence.Am I not right?.

 

If all efforts fail then the parents can think of adopting a son etc.

 

 

I wish you all the best.

With pranams to gurus.

With regards,

Jagannathan.

 

 

 

vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Jagannathan,

 

I am happy to see your views which pertain to the ancient age where morals of

those seeking blessings and those of great Rishis were very high and they had

the power of blessings due to own tapasys. However, such is not the case now.

 

I still maintain that if the shanti of a planet has to work, the chart should

have a provision for the same, otherwise it is just not possible.

 

You must have come across many cases where couples do not have children although

being medically fit and any amount of graha-shanti doesss not work. What is this

? If you correctly read the chart, the couple may not be having any provision of

having children.

 

I further maintain that we should understand how to examine a chart !!

 

Regards,

 

Vijay Kumar

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kapisthalam jagannathan

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Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

Dear Sir,

May I cite an example or two.Probably it may be only my wild imagination?.Kindly

excuse me for the same,if so.

Let us see the case of Dasaradha Maharaja of the epic Srimad Ramayanam.

There were great Rishis during those days and they would have been the constant

advisers of His Highness Dasaradha-Maharaja.He married thrice What happened

ultimately?. Following the advice of one of the sages, only after performing

Putra Kameshti yaga he succeeded in giving birth to children through his

wives,all of them without exception?.

The great king Dasaradha might have consulted the best of medical persons of

those days.Possibly and most obviously, Ayur Vedam or the other sciences did

not come to his rescue.

For instance coming to Mahabharatam, even with the best of the knowledge of

Ayurvedam and other medical sciences,the then doctors could not cure the

Luecoderma of Pandu Raja nor did they succeed in giving eye sight to His

Highness Dhritarshtra Maharaja?.Ultimately Lord Krishna granted him

momentarily the power of seeing ?.

..Divine intervention seems to work from time to time much against the law of

Destiny in the lives of the humanbeings who are mortals.Possibly that the law

of destiny which is said to be inexorable has its own

limitations."Vidi-Baliyam"doesnt seem to hold good under all

circumstances?.Perhars Rishis could see through horoscope where Desitny ceases

to function? and Divine intervention beginds to work.?I await your comments

please.

Wishing all the best,With pranams to gurus.

Regards.,

Jagannathan.vijay kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote:

Dear Mr. Rao,

 

Sorry to intervene.

 

My feeling is that the use of learning astrology is learning (correctly) how to

decipher the future and understand the fate of karma. It becomes very difficult

for me to to gulp the fact that destiny is evitable, perhaps, the fact is that

it is inevitable. Let us understand it clearly. I am yet not a fatalist.

 

Let me tell you if the chart does not indicate marriage, no propituation can

make it happen ! Even in case of remedial measures, the marriage takes place at

the time it is indicated by the D-B-A periods. This is a truth. Perhaps, the

fact remains that we should know how to delineate the dasha effects. Most of

the errors do happen on that account.

 

In case, if you feel interested, let me have just one chart from your files

indicating your remedial measures to give the marriage, although not indicated.

 

It seems that you are very well read in Prashna Marga. Would you kindly enligten

me whether Mandi and Gulika have been properly differentiated in the said text ?

 

Sorry to offend you.

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

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Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: childbirth prediction to Jagannathan Ji

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Krishna,

Sorry for the interference.You said that you does not belive in Astrological

Remedies.Then what is the use of learning Astrology ? Now for example, a

unmarried girl's father approaches you to ask when his daughter will get

married as the age is increasing and worried about his daughter's marriage.Then

what will be your explanation to his query ? Is that you tell him that in his

daughter's chart,there are many afflictions are there to get married and so it

may delay further ? Do you not think of any remedy for reducing the malefic

effects of planets ? Astrology without a remedy is zero.Remedy is the Heart of

Jyotish.

As per my knowledge,I had seen almost about 1000 or more charts from past 18

years and I have suggested remedies for the problems and such remedies have

helped the common man to reduce such planetary afflictions and the problems

solved at the earliest.

For each specific problem there is Astrologic remedy.There are many experienced

Astrologers than me and I have seen their perfect remedies working.But onething

is that the Astrologer should follow some rules which are mentioned in Prashna

Margam and then only his remedeis will work and will benefit the consultant.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote:

Hari,I am not sure what I need to explain. You were equating astrological

remedies to a doctor's treatment. Since I do not believe in astrological

remedies, I was pointing out that giving a false sense of hope to people by

prescribing such remedies does more harm than good. Best,Krishna> Dear

Krishna,> > I do not understand your extension of the metaphor. Could you be so

> kind as to explain?> > regards> Hari> > --- In

vedic astrology, "quietwolf1972" > <quietwolf1972> wrote:>

> Hari,> > > > To carry your metaphor further, I think it is a greater sin to >

> pretend to be a doctor when you are not one. It is your > prerogative > > if

you wish to believe in mantras and other

astrological remedies. > I > > do not.> > > > Best,> > > > Krishna> > > > >

Dear Krishna (quietwolf1972), > > > > > > No point in going to a doctor if the

doctor doesnt believe in > the > > > efficacy of prescribing medicines. If you

dont believe in > finding > > > the correct remedy after diagnosing the

problem, then there is > no > > > use of diagnosing the problem. Refer Sanjay's

book on Vedic > > remedies > > > in astrology (VRA).> > >Archives:

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Respected Sister,

I will certainly do my best and give an analysis of the birth chart of your

husband.Please allow me some time.

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