Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Did anyone look at his chart? I am intersted to know that what Grahas have brought his extreme downfall?? How long will he survive as per his chart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Dear ? Jupiter is the planet. On December 2nd I have published a mail on another list saying that Saddam will be found during his Mars/Rahu/Jupiter (with a birth time of 08:15). However I was mistaking in assuming that he may take his own life. Regards /Jay Weiss http://www.alvicomm.com - "vca_sap" <vca_sap <vedic astrology> Monday, December 15, 2003 5:53 AM [vedic astrology] Saddam Hussein?? > Did anyone look at his chart? I am intersted to know that what Grahas > have brought his extreme downfall?? How long will he survive as per > his chart? > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Dear Jay, Congratulations for narrowing it down to the correct 2 month period! I see that you have used the birthdata provided sometime back by Imran. If I am not mistaken, he suggested the birthtime of 8:15 am sometime back. Can you share with us the logic behind accepting this birthtime and/or the logic behind the timing? May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Dear ? > > Jupiter is the planet. > On December 2nd I have published a mail on another list saying that Saddam > will be found during his Mars/Rahu/Jupiter (with a birth time of 08:15). > However I was mistaking in assuming that he may take his own life. > > Regards > /Jay Weiss > http://www.alvicomm.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Dear Narasimha & list, My logic was very simple, based on Rasi chart only and first presented back in April 2nd during one of my lectures in front of 120 people (so there are many to 'witness' it...) though at first I used 8:17 as birthtime. The following were the points that I used to concluse Mars/Rahu/Jupiter as his capture/end: Vimshottari from the Moon: Mars mahadasa started April 4th - is 8th from Sun (6/8 relation) and 6th from lagna. Rahu is with Moon in 6th - 1/1 relation - mental derangement Jupiter 8th from lagna - lord of 7th & 10th (betrayed by one of his friends/family). Mars/Rahu/Moon from 6th and Merc/Ketu from 12th aspect the 8th. There is a parivartana yoga between Jupiter and Saturn - Jupiter is the lord of Venus (12th lord) Jupiter is debilitated. Jupiter in the 8th is responsible for imprisonment due to strife. Lagna lord Mercury in the12th with Ketu aspected by Ma/Ra/Mo from the 6th. Mars and Rahu are in 12th from the 7th. Nakshatra lords for Moon and Mars is Saturn (who finds itself in the 8th while Jupiter is 'suddenly with 12th lord Venus) Nakshatra lord of Rahu is Mercury who is lagna lord in the 12th. As long as Saddam was in Mars maha/antar dasa (April 4th - Aug-31) he was "safe" as Mars is in own house, very strong. Once Rahu antar started it was only a matter of time as Rahu in the 6th, pointing at false friends and hidden enemies. Jupiter Pratyaantar was my choice based on all the facts mentioned above. I assumed that he might take his own life (lagna lord in 12th but Mercury was not involved directly) but it seems that cowardness was the correct term. That was my simple logic. No divisions or any other 'technique'. Kind regards /Jay Weiss http://www.alvicomm.com - "pvr108" <pvr <vedic astrology> Monday, December 15, 2003 7:29 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein?? > Dear Jay, > > Congratulations for narrowing it down to the correct 2 month period! > > I see that you have used the birthdata provided sometime back by > Imran. If I am not mistaken, he suggested the birthtime of 8:15 am > sometime back. > > Can you share with us the logic behind accepting this birthtime > and/or the logic behind the timing? > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > Dear ? > > > > Jupiter is the planet. > > On December 2nd I have published a mail on another list saying > that Saddam > > will be found during his Mars/Rahu/Jupiter (with a birth time of > 08:15). > > However I was mistaking in assuming that he may take his own life. > > > > Regards > > /Jay Weiss > > http://www.alvicomm.com > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Dear Jay Weiss, Kindly reproduce birth details. Now many are interested to know his birth details. regards, sreekumar - J.-Weiss vedic astrology Monday, December 15, 2003 1:40 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein?? Dear Narasimha & list,My logic was very simple, based on Rasi chart only and first presented backin April 2nd during one of my lectures in front of 120 people (so there aremany to 'witness' it...) though at first I used 8:17 as birthtime.The following were the points that I used to concluse Mars/Rahu/Jupiter ashis capture/end:Vimshottari from the Moon:Mars mahadasa started April 4th - is 8th from Sun (6/8 relation) and 6thfrom lagna.Rahu is with Moon in 6th - 1/1 relation - mental derangementJupiter 8th from lagna - lord of 7th & 10th (betrayed by one of hisfriends/family).Mars/Rahu/Moon from 6th and Merc/Ketu from 12th aspect the 8th.There is a parivartana yoga between Jupiter and Saturn - Jupiter is the lordof Venus (12th lord)Jupiter is debilitated.Jupiter in the 8th is responsible for imprisonment due to strife.Lagna lord Mercury in the12th with Ketu aspected by Ma/Ra/Mo from the 6th.Mars and Rahu are in 12th from the 7th.Nakshatra lords for Moon and Mars is Saturn (who finds itself in the 8thwhile Jupiter is 'suddenly with 12th lord Venus)Nakshatra lord of Rahu is Mercury who is lagna lord in the 12th.As long as Saddam was in Mars maha/antar dasa (April 4th - Aug-31) he was"safe" as Mars is in own house, very strong.Once Rahu antar started it was only a matter of time as Rahu in the 6th,pointing at false friends and hidden enemies.Jupiter Pratyaantar was my choice based on all the facts mentioned above.I assumed that he might take his own life (lagna lord in 12th but Mercurywas not involved directly) but it seems that cowardness was the correctterm.That was my simple logic. No divisions or any other 'technique'.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com- "pvr108" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net><vedic astrology>Monday, December 15, 2003 7:29 AM[vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein??> Dear Jay,>> Congratulations for narrowing it down to the correct 2 month period!>> I see that you have used the birthdata provided sometime back by> Imran. If I am not mistaken, he suggested the birthtime of 8:15 am> sometime back.>> Can you share with us the logic behind accepting this birthtime> and/or the logic behind the timing?>> May Jupiter's light shine on us,> Narasimha>> > Dear ?> >> > Jupiter is the planet.> > On December 2nd I have published a mail on another list saying> that Saddam> > will be found during his Mars/Rahu/Jupiter (with a birth time of> 08:15).> > However I was mistaking in assuming that he may take his own life.> >> > Regards> > /Jay Weiss> > http://www.alvicomm.com>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>> Your use of is subject to >>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by Email scanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 28-April-1937, 08:15am, 43E42, 34N36 (Tikris), 3h east of GMT. Regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com - sreekumar vedic astrology Monday, December 15, 2003 9:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein?? Dear Jay Weiss, Kindly reproduce birth details. Now many are interested to know his birth details. regards, sreekumar - J.-Weiss vedic astrology Monday, December 15, 2003 1:40 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein?? Dear Narasimha & list,My logic was very simple, based on Rasi chart only and first presented backin April 2nd during one of my lectures in front of 120 people (so there aremany to 'witness' it...) though at first I used 8:17 as birthtime.The following were the points that I used to concluse Mars/Rahu/Jupiter ashis capture/end:Vimshottari from the Moon:Mars mahadasa started April 4th - is 8th from Sun (6/8 relation) and 6thfrom lagna.Rahu is with Moon in 6th - 1/1 relation - mental derangementJupiter 8th from lagna - lord of 7th & 10th (betrayed by one of hisfriends/family).Mars/Rahu/Moon from 6th and Merc/Ketu from 12th aspect the 8th.There is a parivartana yoga between Jupiter and Saturn - Jupiter is the lordof Venus (12th lord)Jupiter is debilitated.Jupiter in the 8th is responsible for imprisonment due to strife.Lagna lord Mercury in the12th with Ketu aspected by Ma/Ra/Mo from the 6th.Mars and Rahu are in 12th from the 7th.Nakshatra lords for Moon and Mars is Saturn (who finds itself in the 8thwhile Jupiter is 'suddenly with 12th lord Venus)Nakshatra lord of Rahu is Mercury who is lagna lord in the 12th.As long as Saddam was in Mars maha/antar dasa (April 4th - Aug-31) he was"safe" as Mars is in own house, very strong.Once Rahu antar started it was only a matter of time as Rahu in the 6th,pointing at false friends and hidden enemies.Jupiter Pratyaantar was my choice based on all the facts mentioned above.I assumed that he might take his own life (lagna lord in 12th but Mercurywas not involved directly) but it seems that cowardness was the correctterm.That was my simple logic. No divisions or any other 'technique'.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com- "pvr108" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net><vedic astrology>Monday, December 15, 2003 7:29 AM[vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein??> Dear Jay,>> Congratulations for narrowing it down to the correct 2 month period!>> I see that you have used the birthdata provided sometime back by> Imran. If I am not mistaken, he suggested the birthtime of 8:15 am> sometime back.>> Can you share with us the logic behind accepting this birthtime> and/or the logic behind the timing?>> May Jupiter's light shine on us,> Narasimha>> > Dear ?> >> > Jupiter is the planet.> > On December 2nd I have published a mail on another list saying> that Saddam> > will be found during his Mars/Rahu/Jupiter (with a birth time of> 08:15).> > However I was mistaking in assuming that he may take his own life.> >> > Regards> > /Jay Weiss> > http://www.alvicomm.com>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>> Your use of is subject to >>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by Email scanner Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Jay, Thanks for your information.But did you not read my message which was written on 7/01/2003 about Saddam Hussein ? Of course at that time I was not very much exact in his birth time.This is for your information. With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao."J.-Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: 28-April-1937, 08:15am, 43E42, 34N36 (Tikris), 3h east of GMT. Regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com - sreekumar vedic astrology Monday, December 15, 2003 9:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein?? Dear Jay Weiss, Kindly reproduce birth details. Now many are interested to know his birth details. regards, sreekumar - J.-Weiss vedic astrology Monday, December 15, 2003 1:40 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein?? Dear Narasimha & list,My logic was very simple, based on Rasi chart only and first presented backin April 2nd during one of my lectures in front of 120 people (so there aremany to 'witness' it...) though at first I used 8:17 as birthtime.The following were the points that I used to concluse Mars/Rahu/Jupiter ashis capture/end:Vimshottari from the Moon:Mars mahadasa started April 4th - is 8th from Sun (6/8 relation) and 6thfrom lagna.Rahu is with Moon in 6th - 1/1 relation - mental derangementJupiter 8th from lagna - lord of 7th & 10th (betrayed by one of hisfriends/family).Mars/Rahu/Moon from 6th and Merc/Ketu from 12th aspect the 8th.There is a parivartana yoga between Jupiter and Saturn - Jupiter is the lordof Venus (12th lord)Jupiter is debilitated.Jupiter in the 8th is responsible for imprisonment due to strife.Lagna lord Mercury in the12th with Ketu aspected by Ma/Ra/Mo from the 6th.Mars and Rahu are in 12th from the 7th.Nakshatra lords for Moon and Mars is Saturn (who finds itself in the 8thwhile Jupiter is 'suddenly with 12th lord Venus)Nakshatra lord of Rahu is Mercury who is lagna lord in the 12th.As long as Saddam was in Mars maha/antar dasa (April 4th - Aug-31) he was"safe" as Mars is in own house, very strong.Once Rahu antar started it was only a matter of time as Rahu in the 6th,pointing at false friends and hidden enemies.Jupiter Pratyaantar was my choice based on all the facts mentioned above.I assumed that he might take his own life (lagna lord in 12th but Mercurywas not involved directly) but it seems that cowardness was the correctterm.That was my simple logic. No divisions or any other 'technique'.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.com- "pvr108" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net><vedic astrology>Monday, December 15, 2003 7:29 AM[vedic astrology] Re: Saddam Hussein??> Dear Jay,>> Congratulations for narrowing it down to the correct 2 month period!>> I see that you have used the birthdata provided sometime back by> Imran. If I am not mistaken, he suggested the birthtime of 8:15 am> sometime back.>> Can you share with us the logic behind accepting this birthtime> and/or the logic behind the timing?>> May Jupiter's light shine on us,> Narasimha>> > Dear ?> >> > Jupiter is the planet.> > On December 2nd I have published a mail on another list saying> that Saddam> > will be found during his Mars/Rahu/Jupiter (with a birth time of> 08:15).> > However I was mistaking in assuming that he may take his own life.> >> > Regards> > /Jay Weiss> > http://www.alvicomm.com>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>> Your use of is subject to >>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ____ Scanned and protected by Email scanner Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 huh...another Saddam in making?? > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Ramadas Ji > > It was excellent analysis.I remember reading the article long back > but didnt understand the importance of the analysis:-) > > One question - i have a chart with exactly similar placements,but the > lagna.That is lagna starts with Jupiter in capricorn and all the > planets will follow the order as in saddams case.( 2nd empty,3rd with > venus saturn,4th with sun,5th with ketu, merc and 11th with > rahu,moon,mars) - exactly the same. > > For curiousity,what diffrence could it make in this case? rahu ,moon > and mars in labha.(currently running rahu dasha) > > Thanks > Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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