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Dear Ramesh,

Good point! One definitively has to be 'culturally sensitive' to understand

symbols properly...Why should I divorce, I can have-both, three, four..?-is the

reality in some parts of the world.

 

In the case I had in mind /monogamy- whether divorce officially takes place or

not/ question was why the second spouse HAS to 'look like' the cause of

divorce? 8th H is end of marriage- opposite 2nd is the second marriage-

therefore inevitably connected to the 8th- I haven't seen that yet! People

divorce for various reasons, cause of one separation doesn't necessarily become

part of second marriage - I hope my point is clearer.

As for 7, 9, 11 /for first, second, third..respectively/ we most often have

different personality and situation entering the picture, bearing the

characteristics of a new spouse. Old-day psychology tended to limit our choices

as predetermined- but we grow up, sometimes outgrowing our /particularly early/

marriages- so this scheme looks more appropriate.. Besides, I have seen so many

examples, where 9, 11, DO correspond to the nature of spouses.

Same as in D7- different kids from different h-5, 7, 9..

 

Warmest wishes,

AnnaRamesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com> wrote:

Dear Anna,

"One thing is clear- before second marriage comes, first has to end- ok." This

may not be the case always, especially in this part of the world!

I haven't read about 7,9 and 11th being houses for 1st, 2nd and 3rd houses. I

guess I will learn more as I go along.

Best Regards

Ramesh

108ar [bona_mente ]Sent:

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:51 AMvedic astrologySubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: How does second house affect second marriage????

Dear Kanupria,

 

1)Yes, we've learnt that 2nd denotes second marriage- but end of first is 8th H-

so if we have malefic in 8th,

a/that would mean end of first m.

b/BUT it will aspect fully 2nd house- like, cause of break-up denotes 2nd spouse?

 

Dear Imran,

2)I've also learnt that 7th is first marriage, 9th is second- and I've seen that working

How much 'weight' do you apply to Vivaha saham and its Lord in this regard? /Haven't used yet/

 

How would we reconcile the two (1, 2), if at all,

and how 2-8 axis /first ex/ can be explained. One thing is clear- before second

marriage comes, first has to end- ok.

-planet in 8th as a cause of marriage break-up- is not necessarily part of

second marriage quality as it does apply- full seventh H aspect on 2nd..

Any suggestion?

Thanks,

Anna

 

+Why planet in 2nd cannot bring the /first/ marriage?/I would rather see aspects

and it's position from AL and navamsa.../why is for the rule by itself...

 

vedic astrology, "Muhammad Imran" <astroimran>

wrote:> Dear List,> > The 2nd and 7th houses are marakasthan(apart from other

matters) and > hence show (physical) end, shutdown or death. 8th (as well as

3rd) > house stands for ayu or lenth of life i.e. sustainability. So, for > any

certain house above criteria is to be set. > > As far as the end of first

marriage is concern, 2nd and 7th houses > should be studied not only from vivah

sthan-7th bhav but also from > 7th lord, karakas, and UL, both in Rashi and

Navamsha. Therefore > widowhood is seen from 8th house, as it is 2nd from 7th.

> > Looking 2nd house, has it something related to second marriage? It > is 8th

from 7th hence stands for duration or lenth of marriage. So > if 2nd house

is weak or afflicted then sustainability of marriage > comes in danger. Dual

signs in marriage relatd houses/grahas lead to > multiple marriages if

tama-grahas(specially Mars & Rahu) are > involved. While Jupiter gives

supportive back to (official) marriage > and family related happiness in female

chart.> > By the way, first marriage is seen from 7th, second from 9th and >

third from 11th house.> > Regards> M.IMRAN> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "kanu priya" <barish44@h...> > wrote:> > > >

Namah > Dear Astroneed,> First you need to understand

the logic behind > the houses involved.Let me explain that first in short.> a)

The 2nd house is seen for

sustainence.So,the 2nd house from the > seventh house is seen to judge how the

marriage will sustain > itself.This is the 8th house from the lagna.> b)The 7th

house is also called the Dwara rasi.It's from here that > our life commences,

our desires get manifested.> c)Now, to see the end of the first marrige we look

at the 8th house > from lagna and to see how life commences from beyond that

point we > need to look at the 7th house from that.This is the 2nd house from >

lagna.> d)Due to this logic the second house will show how the life moves >

further after the end of the first marrige.> > Hope this helps.> > Best

Wishes,> > Kanupriya.> > >"astroneed" > > > > > > > >To:

vedic astrology > >[vedic astrology] How does second

house affect second > marriage???? > >Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:48:42 -0000 > >

> >Hello All, > > > > > >Its recently that i have developed interest in

astrology. I am > >intrigued by the effects that it has on our lives. > > >

>Marriage makes an important and inevitable part of out lives. I > have > >been

told by a lot of astrologers about the fact that if the first > >marriage

breaks up (which is ruled by 7th house)then the second > >marriage is ruled by

the second house. And it also determines the > >timing and nature of the second

spouse. > > > >Please enlighten me on the above. > > > >Regards > > > >AstroNeed

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Dear All,

 

I would like to give an excellent example here to show how second house

affect second marriage for a woman here.

 

A chart here has libra lagna with 2nd and 7th house lord Mars in 8th

house(Taurus) with Venus in 2nd house(Scorpio) aspecting 8th house.

Within 1year the couple separated and is looking for second marriage

The kalatrakaraka Venus is highly affected by Mars from 8th and denotes

the end of First Marriage and the beginning of 2nd marriage.

 

But Venus in 2nd house and Mars in 8th house has given the woman a lot

of money though born in Middle class family.

 

Regards

Pramod.

 

 

astroneed [astroneed]

Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:03 PM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: How does second house affect second

marriage/to Ramesh/

 

Dear All,

 

I think it also would be dependent on the second spouse that we

choose, by guna matching sometimes the bad effects can be minimised

or vice versa.

Moreover one does learn lessons from the first marriage in terms of

what kind of spouse to choose the next time ,and what kind of

expectations to have , that might make second marriage diffrent from

the first one.

 

Also is it the second house or ninth house which determines second

marriage? How can one see a second love marriage?

 

Thanks

 

Astroneed.

 

 

vedic astrology, 108ar <bona_mente> wrote:

> Dear Ramesh,

> Good point! One definitively has to be 'culturally sensitive' to

understand symbols properly...Why should I divorce, I can have-both,

three, four..?-is the reality in some parts of the world.

>

> In the case I had in mind /monogamy- whether divorce officially

takes place or not/ question was why the second spouse HAS to 'look

like' the cause of divorce? 8th H is end of marriage- opposite 2nd is

the second marriage- therefore inevitably connected to the 8th- I

haven't seen that yet! People divorce for various reasons, cause of

one separation doesn't necessarily become part of second marriage - I

hope my point is clearer.

> As for 7, 9, 11 /for first, second, third..respectively/ we most

often have different personality and situation entering the picture,

bearing the characteristics of a new spouse. Old-day psychology

tended to limit our choices as predetermined- but we grow up,

sometimes outgrowing our /particularly early/ marriages- so this

scheme looks more appropriate.. Besides, I have seen so many

examples, where 9, 11, DO correspond to the nature of spouses.

> Same as in D7- different kids from different h-5, 7, 9..

>

> Warmest wishes,

> Anna

>

>

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:Dear Anna,

> "One thing is clear- before second marriage comes, first has to end-

ok." This may not be the case always, especially in this part of the

world!

> I haven't read about 7,9 and 11th being houses for 1st, 2nd and 3rd

houses. I guess I will learn more as I go along.

> Best Regards

> Ramesh

>

> 108ar [bona_mente]

> Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:51 AM

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: How does second house affect

second marriage????

>

>

> Dear Kanupria,

>

> 1)Yes, we've learnt that 2nd denotes second marriage- but end of

first is 8th H- so if we have malefic in 8th,

> a/that would mean end of first m.

> b/BUT it will aspect fully 2nd house- like, cause of break-up

denotes 2nd spouse?

>

> Dear Imran,

> 2)I've also learnt that 7th is first marriage, 9th is second- and

I've seen that working

> How much 'weight' do you apply to Vivaha saham and its Lord in this

regard? /Haven't used yet/

>

> How would we reconcile the two (1, 2), if at all,

> and how 2-8 axis /first ex/ can be explained. One thing is clear-

before second marriage comes, first has to end- ok.

> -planet in 8th as a cause of marriage break-up- is not necessarily

part of second marriage quality as it does apply- full seventh H

aspect on 2nd..

> Any suggestion?

> Thanks,

> Anna

>

> +Why planet in 2nd cannot bring the /first/ marriage?/I would

rather see aspects and it's position from AL and navamsa.../why is

for the rule by itself...

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Muhammad Imran"

> <astroimran> wrote:

> > Dear List,

> >

> > The 2nd and 7th houses are marakasthan(apart from other matters)

> and

> > hence show (physical) end, shutdown or death. 8th (as well as

3rd)

> > house stands for ayu or lenth of life i.e. sustainability. So,

for

> > any certain house above criteria is to be set.

> >

> > As far as the end of first marriage is concern, 2nd and 7th

houses

> > should be studied not only from vivah sthan-7th bhav but also

from

> > 7th lord, karakas, and UL, both in Rashi and Navamsha. Therefore

> > widowhood is seen from 8th house, as it is 2nd from 7th.

> >

> > Looking 2nd house, has it something related to second marriage?

It

> > is 8th from 7th hence stands for duration or lenth of marriage.

So

> > if 2nd house is weak or afflicted then sustainability of marriage

> > comes in danger. Dual signs in marriage relatd houses/grahas lead

> to

> > multiple marriages if tama-grahas(specially Mars & Rahu) are

> > involved. While Jupiter gives supportive back to (official)

> marriage

> > and family related happiness in female chart.

> >

> > By the way, first marriage is seen from 7th, second from 9th and

> > third from 11th house.

> >

> > Regards

> > M.IMRAN

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "kanu priya"

> <barish44@h...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> >

> > Namah

> > Dear Astroneed,

> > First you need to understand the logic

> behind

> > the houses involved.Let me explain that first in short.

> > a) The 2nd house is seen for sustainence.So,the 2nd house from

the

> > seventh house is seen to judge how the marriage will sustain

> > itself.This is the 8th house from the lagna.

> > b)The 7th house is also called the Dwara rasi.It's from here that

> > our life commences, our desires get manifested.

> > c)Now, to see the end of the first marrige we look at the 8th

> house

> > from lagna and to see how life commences from beyond that point

we

> > need to look at the 7th house from that.This is the 2nd house

from

> > lagna.

> > d)Due to this logic the second house will show how the life moves

> > further after the end of the first marrige.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> >

> > Kanupriya.

> >

> > >"astroneed"

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >vedic astrology

> > >[vedic astrology] How does second house affect second

> > marriage????

> > >Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:48:42 -0000

> > >

> > >Hello All,

> > >

> > >

> > >Its recently that i have developed interest in astrology. I am

> > >intrigued by the effects that it has on our lives.

> > >

> > >Marriage makes an important and inevitable part of out lives. I

> > have

> > >been told by a lot of astrologers about the fact that if the

> first

> > >marriage breaks up (which is ruled by 7th house)then the second

> > >marriage is ruled by the second house. And it also determines

the

> > >timing and nature of the second spouse.

> > >

> > >Please enlighten me on the above.

> > >

> > >Regards

> > >

> > >AstroNeed

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