Re : Adhana Lagna Quiz Answer-Part-I,II,III----->Hari

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Namaste Hari,

 

Thanks for the note, there I was refering to 10th month,

which means 9 months completed, so that should give us

Dec 15, then as per my understanding another 6 days, so

that should be Dec 21. I will write to you my refereces

to you later on using D-10 to predict the birth, taking

place during the 10th month, as I do not remember top of my

head now, but I remember it is in one of my two references,

may be not.

 

Regarding, the last part of the quiz, ie. finding the

Longitude of the Lagna from Adhana, I am thinking of

referring the Chapter IV, Quarter 3 of Jaimini Upadesa

Sutras, by Sanjay Ji's Book this week-end.

 

See if you can also attempt from there, so that we both can

finish this pending part and ask Dhira Ji to give the final

answer with analysis.

 

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

 

 

vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari>

wrote:

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Raghunada,

>

> In the light of what Dhira Krishna wrote, I went back and checked

> your calculations. I am puzzled as to how you arrived at Dec 21?

You

> mention that birth took place in the 10th month ie., from Jan 15 to

> Feb 14! Hence if you add 6 days, you should have arrived at Jan 21

> and not Dec 21!!

>

> Secondly, why did you count from Ar? If Moon is in dwadasamsa of

Ar,

> then conception Moon in Vi has gained 8 dwadasamsas or 8 days!!!

>

> Lastly, what is relevance of D-10 to conception chart? If Virgo

> happens to be, for example, D-12 lagna is it correct to say that

> birth takes place in 12th month?

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani"

<raon1008>

> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste Dhira Ji,

> >

> > I think the birth must have taken place on Dec 21, 2003.

> >

> > > Part-II:-

> > > =======

> > > The birth takes place in the tenth month under normal

> conditions,

> > when that sign is occupied by the Moon.

> > >

> > > In this chart the Adhana Lagna is Sc and Moon is palced in Vi.

> In

> > Dasamsa it is also the D-10 Lagna. So the birth of the child is

> > predicted in the 10th month, when the moon moves in Vi, the

> > Dwadasamsa occupied by the moon at the time of conception.

> > >

> > > It means that when the Moon moves in the constellations of U

> > Phalguni ( last 3 quarters), Hasta ( four quarters) and Chitra (

> > first two quarters) birth should take place. And coming to the

> date

> > of the birth of the child is seen from the Ar to Vi is 6 days, so

> the

> > child should have been born on 6th day of the 10th Month with the

> > above constellation.

> > >

>

> > > April 15, 2003

> > > Time: 23:54:27

> > > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 5 E 25' 00", 50 N 21' 00"

> > > Septon, Belgium

> > > Altitude: 300.00 meters

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||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Raghunada,

 

Conception date: April 15.

Months: May 14(1), June 14(2), July 14(3), August 14(4), Sep 14(5),

Oct 14(6), Nov 14(7), Dec 14(8), Jan 14(9)

 

where the number in brackets refer to the months completed.

 

Jan 14 is the 9th month completed. 10th month runs from Jan 15 to

Feb 14.

 

Unless Sarajit or somebody knowledgeable in this area sends some

pointers, this is pretty over my head. I already went through the

sutras that you mentioned.

 

regards

Hari

 

vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Namaste Hari,

>

> Thanks for the note, there I was refering to 10th month,

> which means 9 months completed, so that should give us

> Dec 15, then as per my understanding another 6 days, so

> that should be Dec 21. I will write to you my refereces

> to you later on using D-10 to predict the birth, taking

> place during the 10th month, as I do not remember top of my

> head now, but I remember it is in one of my two references,

> may be not.

>

> Regarding, the last part of the quiz, ie. finding the

> Longitude of the Lagna from Adhana, I am thinking of

> referring the Chapter IV, Quarter 3 of Jaimini Upadesa

> Sutras, by Sanjay Ji's Book this week-end.

>

> See if you can also attempt from there, so that we both can

> finish this pending part and ask Dhira Ji to give the final

> answer with analysis.

>

> Regards

> Raghunadha Rao

>

>

> vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari>

> wrote:

> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

> >

> > Dear Raghunada,

> >

> > In the light of what Dhira Krishna wrote, I went back and

checked

> > your calculations. I am puzzled as to how you arrived at Dec 21?

> You

> > mention that birth took place in the 10th month ie., from Jan 15

to

> > Feb 14! Hence if you add 6 days, you should have arrived at Jan

21

> > and not Dec 21!!

> >

> > Secondly, why did you count from Ar? If Moon is in dwadasamsa of

> Ar,

> > then conception Moon in Vi has gained 8 dwadasamsas or 8 days!!!

> >

> > Lastly, what is relevance of D-10 to conception chart? If Virgo

> > happens to be, for example, D-12 lagna is it correct to say that

> > birth takes place in 12th month?

> >

> > regards

> > Hari

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani"

> <raon1008>

> > wrote:

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Namaste Dhira Ji,

> > >

> > > I think the birth must have taken place on Dec 21, 2003.

> > >

> > > > Part-II:-

> > > > =======

> > > > The birth takes place in the tenth month under normal

> > conditions,

> > > when that sign is occupied by the Moon.

> > > >

> > > > In this chart the Adhana Lagna is Sc and Moon is palced in

Vi.

> > In

> > > Dasamsa it is also the D-10 Lagna. So the birth of the child

is

> > > predicted in the 10th month, when the moon moves in Vi, the

> > > Dwadasamsa occupied by the moon at the time of conception.

> > > >

> > > > It means that when the Moon moves in the constellations of U

> > > Phalguni ( last 3 quarters), Hasta ( four quarters) and Chitra

(

> > > first two quarters) birth should take place. And coming to the

> > date

> > > of the birth of the child is seen from the Ar to Vi is 6 days,

so

> > the

> > > child should have been born on 6th day of the 10th Month with

the

> > > above constellation.

> > > >

> >

> > > > April 15, 2003

> > > > Time: 23:54:27

> > > > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 5 E 25' 00", 50 N 21' 00"

> > > > Septon, Belgium

> > > > Altitude: 300.00 meters

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AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Hari/Dhira,

i am back from my temple visit. i think the quiz is very interesting.

Raghunadha had already sent in his views long time back. i did not make any

attempt then either to comment or to try attempting the quiz.

i have not had the opportunity to get such charts to try out the principles

given in the book. i would like to give a try so that i can learn the

principles in a better manner.

Given Chart:- Vrischika lagna rises with ketu in it. Hora lord is Buda. Buda

occupies the 6th house with Sun. Buda is the lord of UL. Sun is the lord of

Darapada. Graha arudha of Mars(Lagna lord) falls in the 11th house while that

of Venus(so far as the 7th house is concerned) falls in the 7th itself. Mars is

placed in 3rd. Based on the above placements it is clear that the kaala has

enough intentions of kaama.

Guru(husband) aspects adhana lagna which certifies the legitimacy of the unison.

Adhana lagna falls in vrischika. Lord of 3rd is placed in 8th(sani in dual

sign). As perUpadesa sutra 3.4.52 and 4.2.9 birth of twins is possible.

7th house is stronger than 11th and is afflicted by Rahu indicating a

possibility of nose deformation.(3.4.53)

The lord of 3rd house(sani) is in rasi sandhi indicating its inherent weakness

which gives a hint that the twins would be safely delivered.(sutra 4.2.11).

Moon(functional benefic) and Sani(functional malefic) influences the 8th house

which gives a hint that the delivery should take place in the normal

period.(sutra 4.2.14).(normal period is the 10 month - lunar - 273 approx).

Based on the above principle birth can take place between dec.17th to Jan 13th/14th.

Let us work out the natal Sun. Let us determine the stronger between the 6th

house and the 12th house from the ascendant. The 6th house is undoubtedly

strong. Let us add the longitude of Mars to the ascendant degrees. The

resultant called Sodhya rasi falls in Leo. Trines of Leo/Aquarius or the signs

of exaltation/debilitation of Sun can be the place of natal Sun.(sutra 4.2.20

to 4.2.22 - we can also deduct the longitude of 6th house from Hora lagna for

arriving at the sodhya rasi). Adhana lagna and the sign occupied by Atmakarak

cannot be the birth ascendant.(sutra 4.2.32). Based on the above i am ruling

out Aries(beyond the normal period),Gemini/Leo/Libra(less than the normal

period)Aquarius(AK placed there). Dhanus is the only sign left out and is the

9th house from Aries where Sun is placed in the Adhana chart.

Let us try to fix the natal Moon. As per slokha 43 Adhyaya III of Jataka

parijatha the dwadasamsa of Adhana Moon is to be found out and the number that

is obtained(say 5th/6th/7th dwadasamsa for example) is to be added to that rasi

in the dwadasmsa where the moon is posited to arrive at the natal moon. Here

the Moon is found placed in the 8th dwadasamsa in Aries. Counting 8 from Aries

we obtain Vrischika. Therefore broadly speaking the date should one among

20th/21st/22nd. 20th Dec is ruled out as Moon when it enters into vrishcika the

lagna is Leo a day strong sign which cannot be as the adhana lagna is in day

strong sign. Let us try out 21st. The birth should take place in day time but

in night strong signs. The nocturnal signs are

Aries/Vrishaba/Gemini/Cancer/Dhanur/Capricorn. Possibility of birth during 21st

cannot be ruled out. Let us take 22nd dec. From the time of sunrise to sunset

Moon is found beyond 20 degrees which is not the case in the adhana chart. Dec.

21st is therefore chosen.

Let us try to fix the lagna. Broadly speaking birth should take place betwen

sunrise and sunset as copulation had taken place after sunset. The time

span/limit is between8hours 41 minutes and 7 seconds and 16hours 31 minutes and

20 seconds. Moon is posited in the 11th from adhana lagna and aspects the 8th

from adhana lagna. The ascendant can either be Gemini or Virgo as per sutra

4.2.35. Virgo is ruled out because it is a day sign as the adhana ascendant

falls in a day strong sign(vrischika). Birth is therefore likely between 16

hours 7 minutes and 28 seconds and 16 hours 31 minutes and 20 seconds. The

twins might have been born between 16 hours 9 minutes 32 seconds and 16 hours 9

minutes and 18 seconds.

There might have been some obstruction during the pregnancy as ketu is found in

the navamsa lagna(sutra 4.3.111).

Rahu is placed in 7th house and Moon is placed in 11th house which gives a hint

that one might be male(rahu) while the other one might be female(moon) as per

sutra 3.4.35.

i have made an attempt. These are nothing but my reflections of what i have

understood. Even if there is an iota of truth in this finding the credit should

go to the sage only. On the other hand if my refelctions indicate that i have

not understood the principles in the correct manner then i will only be too

happy to be corrected. i pray for the Gurus to enlighten more on this topic.

Best wishes.

Astrologically yours,

psramanrayanan Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your

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Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Namaste RamaNarayanan Ji,

 

That was a wonderful analysis and while reading that, and

looking at the Adhana Chart with the predicted birth chart.

 

I was thinking, is there any link between the Nakshatra of

these two charts with respect to Sun, Moon and Lagna. I have

come up with some links, but would hold on till Dhira Ji gives

his final answer.

 

Meanwhile, if any one can educate me on the basic principles

behind the Adhana Lagna's Nakshatra placement with the actual

birth Nakhsatra and/or with Moon's Nakahstra, I will appreciate.

 

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "P.S. RAMANARAYANAN"

<p_s_ramanarayanan@h...> wrote:

>

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AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Raghunadha,Hari & Dhira,

i have made only an attempt. Let us wait for Dhira. Anyhow Raghunadha, thankyou

for your encouraging words.

As regards the timing please take the time gap as 16 hours 9 minutes 32 seconds

and 16 hours 10 minutes and 18 seconds( you can see my intention - 9 minutes 32

seconds to 9 minutes 18 seconds was a typo).

Hari i have mentioned the sloka references. Dwadasamsa principle is available

in JP. As regards the dirunal adhana lagna i opted for nocturnal Mithuna based

on Sutra.

i am eager to hear Dhira and other Gurus in this regard.

Best wishes.

Astrologically yours,

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