#2 Marriage in Jyotish (For Mr. Imran, et all)

[Guest guest]

Dear Nitin,

 

You have added a very good and to the point illustration of what I

have written as a brief overview. I did not add them keeping in mind

the fear of length.

 

[Via Nitin]

> Here is a thought -- semen (Jala Tatwa) helps carry sperm (prithvi

> tatwa) to the sacred womb. They usually go together, but not many

> consider the subtleties of this combination.

>

> A woman goes from being the fertile Venus to a Mother (Moon), and

> eventually widowhood (I think Ketu representing this).

 

IMRAN:

What we take-in is Venus. As far as semen is conern it is relted

with Venus, I think, all are agreed. No doubt Mensus has direct

relation with Moon and Mars as well as. While mather status is seen

from Moon but in chart of child, not her own. Widowhood is ruled

Mars. Parasara says, Ketu is akin to Mars, therefore Ketu may be

taken as subsidiary indicator here. But Ketu is more intend to being

not married or avoid sentuality.

 

[Via Nitin]

> The natural significators of the 9th House are the Sun and

Jupiter.

> Marriage will be recogniazed either by the Government (Sun) or the

> Priest (Jupiter) accoringly, or both. Jupiter alone is not an

> absolute. People have court marriages, and do not go through a

> priest, or the equivalent in other faiths.

 

IMRAN:

Yes, Sun has some sort of connection (specially father's

affirmation). But marriage is not recognized by Govt(Sun), it is

recognized by Law(Jupiter). Govt and Law are apart away. People

having weak Jupiter or under affliction of nodes go for court

marriage (i.e. not according to tradition=Ju). Also Rahu loves to

perform any task against social norms.

 

[Via Nitin]

> The 2nd from a house is that of sustenance, as you stated before.

> Blessings or protection are the 9th from a House.

 

IMRAN:

The 2nd is house of "sustenance of marriage" (becaue it is 8th from

7th) hence show duration of marriage. In general 2nd reveals food

for being alive, it is storage of our power i.e. assests, savings

and family etc. Luck and blessing from 9th is not particularly of

marriage relted, it is for all righteous matters.

 

You have asked about 7th, 9th, 11th for frist, second, third

marriage. This rule I have taken from one of my friend, also read in

a book on Jyotish (in Urdu). Thus instantly can't refer any quot

from Classics in its favour, but I will try to search.

 

Third is 8th from 8th, and in general shows initiation of new

venture. End is also seen from 3rd. The above sequence is like, take

3rd house from 7th, i.e. 9th then 3rd from 9th i.e. 11th and so on.

 

 

Thanks for your positive comments.

Personal Regards

M.IMRAN

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Nitin" <astronitin>

wrote:

> ||Namah Shivaaya||

>

> Dear Imran Ji,

>

> Some of my thoughts below, as well as a question I asked of you

> before.

>

> While you have provided a lot of clues, I do not know the basis of

> all, and the principles of the dictums quoted. If we understand

the

> principles then the value of dictums, which also serve as a memory

> aid, will flow with us.

>

> vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran

>

> > Marriage is part of dharma and nature's requirement. It is an

> institution with multidimensional association. In Jyotish, nearly

> all the Classics heavily emphasized on it.

>

> [Via Nitin]

> The 11th (gains / "laabha") from the 9th House of Dharma is the

7th

> House. Hence, it can be inferred that the gains to one's dharma is

> the institute of marriage.

>

> Likewise, the gains to the 7th House is the 11th therefrom, which

> leads to the 5th House of children. Children are the wealth of

> parents, as the saying goes...

>

>

>

> > Ruling Planets

> >

> >

> >

> > Wife: Venus stands for Kalatra-Karak, i.e. wife, sexual relation

> with women, sperm and passion. Apart from it, the Moon is the

> secondary ruling planet for wife in male charts.

>

> [Via Nitin]

> Here is a thought -- semen (Jala Tatwa) helps carry sperm (prithvi

> tatwa) to the sacred womb. They usually go together, but not many

> consider the subtleties of this combination.

>

> A woman goes from being the fertile Venus to a Mother (Moon), and

> eventually widowhood (I think Ketu representing this).

>

> > Husband: Jupiter rules Husband in female charts. The Sun is also

> seen as secondary indicator of husband, and his status.

>

> [Via Nitin]

> A Male goes from being Mars the bachelor, to Jupiter the married

> man, a Father and then a widower (I think Rahu representing this).

>

>

> > Marriage: As a dharma, and social duty the "institution of

> marriage" and marriage ceremony is indicated by Jupiter. (It is

also

> indicator of childern).

>

> [Via Nitin]

> The natural significators of the 9th House are the Sun and

Jupiter.

> Marriage will be recogniazed either by the Government (Sun) or the

> Priest (Jupiter) accoringly, or both. Jupiter alone is not an

> absolute. People have court marriages, and do not go through a

> priest, or the equivalent in other faiths.

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Widowhood: The Saturn and Mars show widowhood, death and

> separation from spouse. 8th house is primarily rule over it

because

> 8th house is the second from 7th and seventh from 2nd house.

>

> [Via Nitin]

> I am hoping your revealing us how you picked the 9th for the 2nd

> spouse, the 11th for the 3rd etc, will help clarify what you wrote

> for this point above.

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Miscellaneous Points

> >

> >

> >

> > Amongst chara karaka scheme, the Dara Karaka (DK) rules partner.

> Udu Pada (UL) i.e. arudha of 12th house is particularly discussed

by

> Parashar and Jaimini in the context of marriage. The second from

UL

> indicates phalam or fruits of marital happiness, and must be

studied

> in D-1 and D-9. Vivah Saham is another significant cosmic point in

> chart that stands for marriage but at subsidiary level.

>

> [Via Nitin]

> The 2nd from a house is that of sustenance, as you stated before.

> Blessings or protection are the 9th from a House.

>

> Trines indicate direction to a house, and 11th is "laabha sthaan"

> roughly translated as gains in the modern day.

>

> The 4th from a house in question will reflect happiness. Generally

> for a native, 4th from the Moon is also examined. 4th from A4 is

> also examined in the Rashi for the native. Likewise, 4th frmo a

> reference point can be examined.

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> Thank you for sharing, reading and answering some of my questions.

>

> ||Namah Shivaaya||

[Guest guest]

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

 

Dear Vidyut,

 

The saptadhatus were clearly defined in BPHS wherein Parasara says

that Venus is the significator of semen. Now you seem to make a

distinction between semen and sperm. Similarly I think Mo is the

significator of egg as it rules fertility in women. The soul that is

about to take birth descends through the moon, comes down to earth

in the form of rain or air, enters into the rice which is eaten by

the deserving father and then enters the womb through the semen. The

sun is the significator of the soul and that is why the Jaimini

sutras advocate the use of Sun for examining progeny potential in

the saptamsa.

 

Lets heed what our forefathers have told and not break our heads

about defining new significators. Lets concentrate on perfecting the

knowledge that is available and then worry about other things.

 

regards

Hari

 

vedic astrology, vidyut bhatt

<vidyut_bhatt> wrote:

> Hello Imran,Nitin et al,

>

> IMHO, Rahu is the planet which rules over all CHIDRAS and all that

oozes out of them.

> Rahu is the beginning of A PROCESS in human body.

> Egg, Sperms are both Ruled by Rahu. Rahu rules over Animal

Magnetism, attractions etc.

> .

> Both EGG and SPERM contain Genetic code. Both are intelligent and

ETERNAL.

> Just like Rahu.

> Coming to KETHU,He signifies the end of a process.

> Ketu is Moksha Karaka.

> Mula Nakshatra born children signify END OF JOURNEY for Father's

OJAS's end.How?

> If you take Chandra Lagna with Ketu's Mula Nakshatra in it, it

signifies that fifth house from Nith is Mula Nakshatra.End of

Journey for OJAS or Pum Tatwa of Father.

> If you see Kethu,s Nakshatra in Lagna, it also signifies

Widowhood/seperation for Mother of the child from Her husband.

> In fact, I have been doing a lot of thinking about need to work

anew on KARAKAS.

> Iam thinking of writing more on karakas , especially RAHU, SANI

and GURU.

> I rest my case her.

> Rgds

> Vidyut

>

> I know that my views may raise a lot of heat and dust.

> But these are my Ideas.