Late Shri R.Santhanams view on aspects in Div Charts

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> Late Sri R. Santhanam states in his book Deva Keralam that " the

> aspect as a rule should be seen in rashi chart only, not in navamsha

> and other charts, for aspects emanate only by longitudinal

> distances".

 

To me that makes a lot of sense. At least in the rasi chart one can say:

"Jupiter aspects Moon, but not very tightly." In vargas such distinctions

are not possible, and thus for these charts only rasi dristhis are suitable

(and clearly seen to be working), or "aspects" (somewhat similar to Tajika

relationships) which are not dependent on a particular planet or sign (like

"If in the navamsa Moon is in the 5th from the atma-karaka...").

 

About the other statement I'm not so sure. Which is most important in, say,

the D10: the lagna lord of that D10, the lord of the 10th house of the D10,

or the 10th lord of the rasi chart in the D10? And what about arudhas in the

vargas? Are they not to be considered?

 

Ivar

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SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

 

Dear Pradeep,

 

i am able to understand your eagerness to steer clear through the vargas. i hope

you don't mind me writing a few lines in this regard.

 

Vargas are descriptions given by the "Pitamaha Brahma". We have taken the

meaning of this varga as division similar to the word division used in

arithmetics. Vargas also mean group/class/set. As per Monier-Williams the term

varga-varga means square of a square/a biquadratic number (in arithmetics).

 

How to draw a navamsa chart? The question is simple. i know that you already

know the answer(count for chara begins there only, for sthira from 9th for

dual signs from the 5th) to this question. Let me tell you the other way of

drawing this chart. Take the longitude of the planet. Multiply the same by 9.

Expuunge 360* if need be. The result is the planetary position in the navamsa.

For example let us consider a planet posited in Taurus say venus in 5th degree.

The longitude of this planet is 35 degrees. Multiply this by 9. The product is

315 degrees. This means the planet venus is to be placed in Aquarius/kumbha(10

signs and 15 degrees). Let us take another example. Say Sukra is in Taurus in

15th degree. The longitude of this planet is 45 degrees. Multiply this by 9.

The product is 405 degrees. Now expunge 360 degrees. We get 45 degrees as the

balance/difference. This means the planet venus is to

be placed in Taurus/Vrishabha(1 sign and 15 degrees).

 

Why i had to write this because a belief as to planets have no longitudes for

vargas had expressed itself/crept in. Once you are able to bring in the

longitude of planets into vargas we can easily understand that we are presented

with the same Aries/Taurus etc., in vargas/divisions also. i feel it is better

to use the word dimension instead of division as this word division leads one

into artithmetical alley.

 

Hora chart as presented by you is the grouping of planets into two signs. But

there are other ways of drawing it. You may be already aware of one of the

methods viz.,Kashinath Hora. There is another way of drawing it also (as

taught by traditions). Ofcourse i do not have a name for it.

 

>From traditions what i have understood is that vimsottari dasas were/are also drawn up for vargas.

 

Best wishes.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

p.s.ramanarayanan.vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep >

wrote:vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

Dear and respected membersI am happy that i found a view from late

Shri.R.Santhanam(translator of BPHS) about aspects in Varga charts.I dont have

the book Deva Keralam so please check this and confirm.Late Sri R. Santhanam

states in his book Deva Keralam that " the aspect as a rule should be seen in

rashi chart only, not in navamsha and other charts, for aspects emanate only by

longitudinal distances". In his book Jyotisha Siddhamthamu late Sri D. V.

Subbarao states that " the lordships of bhavas and their position in Varga

charts is not to be considered in Varga charts, the bhava lords & their

position is to be judicially taken only from Bhava chart, in Varga charts the

position of the Lagna lord of that Varga is important. Best

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Dear Ramanarayanan ji

 

As i have read your mails from archives i know and respect your

knowledge and experience.So kindly forgive me if i am insisting on my

views.

 

Thanks for mentioning the alternate calculation logic.I have

understood the general logic(degrees in vargas) earlier itself and

had mentioned this as one of the transforming logics in the mail sent

to Anna ji(but i came to know about the exact formula only through

your mail).Pls see that.But then we are extrapolating.And at a point

of time in space a planet can have only one position though

physically visible or non visible.

 

Now Rama Narayan ji isn't - Navamsha the rashi chart itself.You are

looking the rashi chart at the nakshathra pada level.Thats why

navamsha is the most important chart may be even important than

rashi.I can say if you count the navamshas in multiples of

longitudinal aspects(nakhsathra padas elapsed from the lagna or

aries) you could find aspects similar to rashi.

 

I know i have to learn sanskrit well to understand the theories.But

those who have read sanskrit like shri Santhanam also had similar

doubts.

 

Respect and thanks

Pradeep

 

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<sree88ganesha> wrote:

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> i am able to understand your eagerness to steer clear through the

vargas. i hope you don't mind me writing a few lines in this regard.

>

> Vargas are descriptions given by the "Pitamaha Brahma". We have

taken the meaning of this varga as division similar to the word

division used in arithmetics. Vargas also mean group/class/set. As

per Monier-Williams the term varga-varga means square of a square/a

biquadratic number (in arithmetics).

>

> How to draw a navamsa chart? The question is simple. i know that

you already know the answer(count for chara begins there only, for

sthira from 9th for dual signs from the 5th) to this question. Let me

tell you the other way of drawing this chart. Take the longitude of

the planet. Multiply the same by 9. Expuunge 360* if need be. The

result is the planetary position in the navamsa. For example let us

consider a planet posited in Taurus say venus in 5th degree. The

longitude of this planet is 35 degrees. Multiply this by 9. The

product is 315 degrees. This means the planet venus is to be placed

in Aquarius/kumbha(10 signs and 15 degrees). Let us take another

example. Say Sukra is in Taurus in 15th degree. The longitude of

this planet is 45 degrees. Multiply this by 9. The product is 405

degrees. Now expunge 360 degrees. We get 45 degrees as the

balance/difference. This means the planet venus is to be placed in

Taurus/Vrishabha(1 sign and 15 degrees).

>

> Why i had to write this because a belief as to planets have no

longitudes for vargas had expressed itself/crept in. Once you are

able to bring in the longitude of planets into vargas we can easily

understand that we are presented with the same Aries/Taurus etc., in

vargas/divisions also. i feel it is better to use the word dimension

instead of division as this word division leads one into

artithmetical alley.

>

> Hora chart as presented by you is the grouping of planets into two

signs. But there are other ways of drawing it. You may be already

aware of one of the methods viz.,Kashinath Hora. There is another

way of drawing it also (as taught by traditions). Ofcourse i do not

have a name for it.

>

> From traditions what i have understood is that vimsottari dasas

were/are also drawn up for vargas.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Astrologically yours,

>

> p.s.ramanarayanan.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

>

> vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:Dear and respected

members

>

> I am happy that i found a view from late Shri.R.Santhanam

(translator

> of BPHS) about aspects in Varga charts.

> I dont have the book Deva Keralam so please check this and confirm.

>

> Late Sri R. Santhanam states in his book Deva Keralam that " the

> aspect as a rule should be seen in rashi chart only, not in

navamsha

> and other charts, for aspects emanate only by longitudinal

> distances".

> In his book Jyotisha Siddhamthamu late Sri D. V. Subbarao states

> that " the lordships of bhavas and their position in Varga charts

is

> not to be considered in Varga charts, the bhava lords & their

> position is to be judicially taken only from Bhava chart, in Varga

> charts the position of the Lagna lord of that Varga is important.

>

> Best regds

> Pradeep

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