Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 ....looks like this message was not properly addressed..so sending it again..sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks and Regards. RMK vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear Narasimha > > You have mentioned, "Look at Saturn dasa. I used solar years and used > a backward correction of 1 day 4 hr 17 min, to compensate for > miscellaneous micro-errors in Moon's longitude"... > > ...Can you please explain how to adjust the dasa commencement time > manually to compensate for Moon's factor( I am using excel > spreadsheets for Vimshottari dasa commencement/DPC times), whenever > convenient to you. > > Thanks and Regards > RMK > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Dear Sunit, > > > > There is no difference between Rahu and other planets. > > > > In my humble opinion, this rule about seershodaya rasis does not > work consistently enough to be used in predictions. The three parts > rule given by Sanjay ji in his book "Vimsottari & Udu Dasa" works far > more consistently. > > > > In my experience, however, I found the two parts rule based on > rising to work quite consistently in DPC (Dasa Pravesha Chakra), the > chart cast at the commencement of a dasa. The catch, however, is that > you need an accurate birthtime to use DPC. This is a drawback in the > sense that you often don't have the correct birthtime. But this is > also a blessing in the sense that this gives an opportunity to > rectify the time accurately. > > > > Let us take my chart as an example. Birthdata: 4th April 1970, > 5:47:13 pm (IST), Machilipatnam, India (81e08, 16n10). > > > > Look at Saturn dasa. I used solar years and used a backward > correction of 1 day 4 hr 17 min, to compensate for miscellaneous > micro-errors in Moon's longitude. The Saturn dasa commenced at > 8:04:29 am (IST) on 29th Dec 1975. Make a chart for this time (at > birthplace). Capricorn rises in DPC. The 9th lord Mercury is in 12th, > showing foreign residence during the dasa. He is in Sg. Being in a > prishthodaya (back-rising) sign, he shows going abroad in the 2nd > half of Saturn dasa (true - in 1991). Saturn is lagna lord in 7th > with digbala (in DPC) and shows getting married in the dasa. Again, > he is in a back-rising sign (Cn) and I got married in the 2nd half of > Saturn dasa. The 5th lord is in 11th in Sc, in a trine from Jupiter > and Saturn. He shows scholarship in Sanskrit, traditional subjects > and occult subjects. Being in a seershodaya (head-rising) sign, he > gives those results in the 1st half of Saturn dasa. > > > > Let us now go to Mercury dasa. It started at 4:55:53 am (IST) on > 29th December 1994. Scorpio rises in DPC. The 5th lord Jupiter is in > lagna and shows birth of children and happiness from them during the > dasa. As Jupiter is in Scorpio, a head-rising sign, the results come > in the first half of Mercury dasa (I had two children in 1996 and > 1998). The 9th lord Moon is in 12th with 12th lord and Rahu. It shows > settling down and flourishing abroad. As they are in Libra, a front- > rising sign, it happens in the first half. Though I had gone back to > India in 1993 with the intention of settling fdown there, I left > India again towards the fag end of Saturn dasa and came back to USA > in 1995. I got my permanent residency later. All that happened in the > first half of Mercury dasa. > > > > This principle of applying the two parts rule based on the rising > of a sign can be applied to the commencement charts of antardasas etc > too. > > > > For example, take the commencement chart of my Saturn-Rahu > antardasa. Pisces rises in the chart. Saturn is the 12th lord and he > is at 14 deg in Sg. Paradesa sahamam (the significant point of the > zodiac corresponding to foreign countries) is in the 12th degree of > Sg and jalapatana sahamam (jalapatana=crossing the ocean) is in the > 10th degree of Virgo. Saturn is in paradesa sahamam and closely > aspects jalapatana sahamam by 10th aspect. Moreover, he's the 12th > lord. He aspects lagna lord Jupiter. He strongly shows going abroad. > He is in a back-rising sign (Sg). So, the result is given in the 2nd > half of the dasa (true). > > > > Similarly, in the Saturn-Jupiter antardasa's commencement chart, > Aries rises and Saturn is in own sign in 10th. My career started in > the 2nd half of that dasa. Note that Saturn is in a back-rising sign > (Cp). > > > > In fact, I find that these principles work even for pratyantardasa. > If an important event happens in a dasa or antardasda or > pratyantardasa, not only do the involved planets have appropriate > roles in natal chart, but the commencement chart also has strong > indications. For example, I was running Saturn-Jupiter-Venus PD when > my career started. Of course, Venus is the 9th lord in 10th in my > natal D-10, with a parivartana with 10th lord Mercury (who is in > 9th). So Venus PD gave the result. But we can also look at DPC or > period commencement chart. In the commencement chart of this PD, > Scorpio rises and Sun is strong in own sign in 10th (just like Saturn > in AD commencement chart!). Sun is in a head-rising sign. So I joined > job in the first half of the PD! > > > > * * * > > > > Bottomline: I found the rule of two parts using the rising of signs > to work consistently in the commencement charts of dasas, antardasas > etc. If you apply to natal chart, I haven't seen it work > consistently. Moreover, look at it logically. Suppose Saturn is in a > back-rising sign in natal chart. You may say that it means that > Saturn's results will be given in the 2nd half of Saturn dasa. Then, > whose results is Saturn giving in the first half of his dasa? Or does > he give "no results" then? It is a bit silly. The paradigm I have > presented is more logical. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > PS: I mentioned all this and more at SJC "Vimsottari Dasa" workshop > this autumn. > > > > > Dear Gurus and Learned friends, > > > Can anyone shed some light on sheersha udaya Rasis, I know that > the > > > planets in sheersha udaya rasis give result in the first half of > the > > > dasa/bhukti. Also does Rahu give different results in the first 9 > > > years if in such a rasi, such as virgo. > > > Love and Happiness, > > > Sunit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Sorry everyone..posting it again... Dear Narasimha I know you are a busy man...but please throw some light on moon's backward correction for DPC times(how to do it manually), as I am having a bunch of personal charts waiting for that. Thanks for your time and regards RMK vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > ...looks like this message was not properly addressed..so sending it > again..sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks and Regards. RMK > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear Narasimha > > > > You have mentioned, "Look at Saturn dasa. I used solar years and > used > > a backward correction of 1 day 4 hr 17 min, to compensate for > > miscellaneous micro-errors in Moon's longitude"... > > > > ...Can you please explain how to adjust the dasa commencement time > > manually to compensate for Moon's factor( I am using excel > > spreadsheets for Vimshottari dasa commencement/DPC times), whenever > > convenient to you. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > RMK > > > > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > Dear Sunit, > > > > > > There is no difference between Rahu and other planets. > > > > > > In my humble opinion, this rule about seershodaya rasis does not > > work consistently enough to be used in predictions. The three parts > > rule given by Sanjay ji in his book "Vimsottari & Udu Dasa" works > far > > more consistently. > > > > > > In my experience, however, I found the two parts rule based on > > rising to work quite consistently in DPC (Dasa Pravesha Chakra), > the > > chart cast at the commencement of a dasa. The catch, however, is > that > > you need an accurate birthtime to use DPC. This is a drawback in > the > > sense that you often don't have the correct birthtime. But this is > > also a blessing in the sense that this gives an opportunity to > > rectify the time accurately. > > > > > > Let us take my chart as an example. Birthdata: 4th April 1970, > > 5:47:13 pm (IST), Machilipatnam, India (81e08, 16n10). > > > > > > Look at Saturn dasa. I used solar years and used a backward > > correction of 1 day 4 hr 17 min, to compensate for miscellaneous > > micro-errors in Moon's longitude. The Saturn dasa commenced at > > 8:04:29 am (IST) on 29th Dec 1975. Make a chart for this time (at > > birthplace). Capricorn rises in DPC. The 9th lord Mercury is in > 12th, > > showing foreign residence during the dasa. He is in Sg. Being in a > > prishthodaya (back-rising) sign, he shows going abroad in the 2nd > > half of Saturn dasa (true - in 1991). Saturn is lagna lord in 7th > > with digbala (in DPC) and shows getting married in the dasa. Again, > > he is in a back-rising sign (Cn) and I got married in the 2nd half > of > > Saturn dasa. The 5th lord is in 11th in Sc, in a trine from Jupiter > > and Saturn. He shows scholarship in Sanskrit, traditional subjects > > and occult subjects. Being in a seershodaya (head-rising) sign, he > > gives those results in the 1st half of Saturn dasa. > > > > > > Let us now go to Mercury dasa. It started at 4:55:53 am (IST) on > > 29th December 1994. Scorpio rises in DPC. The 5th lord Jupiter is > in > > lagna and shows birth of children and happiness from them during > the > > dasa. As Jupiter is in Scorpio, a head-rising sign, the results > come > > in the first half of Mercury dasa (I had two children in 1996 and > > 1998). The 9th lord Moon is in 12th with 12th lord and Rahu. It > shows > > settling down and flourishing abroad. As they are in Libra, a front- > > rising sign, it happens in the first half. Though I had gone back > to > > India in 1993 with the intention of settling fdown there, I left > > India again towards the fag end of Saturn dasa and came back to USA > > in 1995. I got my permanent residency later. All that happened in > the > > first half of Mercury dasa. > > > > > > This principle of applying the two parts rule based on the rising > > of a sign can be applied to the commencement charts of antardasas > etc > > too. > > > > > > For example, take the commencement chart of my Saturn-Rahu > > antardasa. Pisces rises in the chart. Saturn is the 12th lord and > he > > is at 14 deg in Sg. Paradesa sahamam (the significant point of the > > zodiac corresponding to foreign countries) is in the 12th degree of > > Sg and jalapatana sahamam (jalapatana=crossing the ocean) is in the > > 10th degree of Virgo. Saturn is in paradesa sahamam and closely > > aspects jalapatana sahamam by 10th aspect. Moreover, he's the 12th > > lord. He aspects lagna lord Jupiter. He strongly shows going > abroad. > > He is in a back-rising sign (Sg). So, the result is given in the > 2nd > > half of the dasa (true). > > > > > > Similarly, in the Saturn-Jupiter antardasa's commencement chart, > > Aries rises and Saturn is in own sign in 10th. My career started in > > the 2nd half of that dasa. Note that Saturn is in a back-rising > sign > > (Cp). > > > > > > In fact, I find that these principles work even for > pratyantardasa. > > If an important event happens in a dasa or antardasda or > > pratyantardasa, not only do the involved planets have appropriate > > roles in natal chart, but the commencement chart also has strong > > indications. For example, I was running Saturn-Jupiter-Venus PD > when > > my career started. Of course, Venus is the 9th lord in 10th in my > > natal D-10, with a parivartana with 10th lord Mercury (who is in > > 9th). So Venus PD gave the result. But we can also look at DPC or > > period commencement chart. In the commencement chart of this PD, > > Scorpio rises and Sun is strong in own sign in 10th (just like > Saturn > > in AD commencement chart!). Sun is in a head-rising sign. So I > joined > > job in the first half of the PD! > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Bottomline: I found the rule of two parts using the rising of > signs > > to work consistently in the commencement charts of dasas, > antardasas > > etc. If you apply to natal chart, I haven't seen it work > > consistently. Moreover, look at it logically. Suppose Saturn is in > a > > back-rising sign in natal chart. You may say that it means that > > Saturn's results will be given in the 2nd half of Saturn dasa. > Then, > > whose results is Saturn giving in the first half of his dasa? Or > does > > he give "no results" then? It is a bit silly. The paradigm I have > > presented is more logical. > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > PS: I mentioned all this and more at SJC "Vimsottari Dasa" > workshop > > this autumn. > > > > > > > Dear Gurus and Learned friends, > > > > Can anyone shed some light on sheersha udaya Rasis, I know that > > the > > > > planets in sheersha udaya rasis give result in the first half > of > > the > > > > dasa/bhukti. Also does Rahu give different results in the first > 9 > > > > years if in such a rasi, such as virgo. > > > > Love and Happiness, > > > > Sunit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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