Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Dear Tanvir, > dear all, namaste.> > what is the literal and practical difference between the two mantras and what is the difference of their appliabilities?> > "om shrim maha lakshmyai namaha om"> > "om shrim maha lakshmyai svaha"> > and can anyone please suggest should it sound "svaha" or "swaha" or "shwaha" ?> > thanks in advance,> tanvir "Namah" is neuter in spirit. Swaha is feminine in spirit. Hum, Phat etc are masculine in spirit. The sex of the word used has nothing to do with the sex of the deity. It has to do with the spirit of the worship. When you are demanding something from a deity, use masculine words like Hum, Phat etc. However, be careful when you demand from a deity! :-) When you are completely sumbitting to a deity, use a feminine word like swaha. When you are neither demanding nor submitting, use a neuter word like namah. When you are not sure of your purpose and spirit, just use namah. This is what I was taught. Those who know more than me may kindly correct me. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Very interesting to know. Thanks for sharing this bit. Karen Skoler <nykaren (AT) optonline (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Tanvir, >From my understanding of the principles given by Pt. Sanjay Rath in his book, Vedic Remedies in Astrology, let me add the following: The first mantra has 6 words and (if I'm counting them correctly) 9 akshara (phonemes). This means that the mantra draws power from the 6th house and effects the 9th house ( dharma). The second mantra has 5 words and 8 akshara and thus draws energy from 5th house and moves it to effect the 8th house ( occult knowledge, forgiveness of sins). In this manner, one can select a particular mantra for different purposes, or strengthening a particular planet in a horoscope. Adventavit asinus, pulcher et fortissimus New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Namaste, though this info was known to me, I thank you for posting a reply. Best wishes, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir ChowdhuryMail tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comPersonal http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirAstrology http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastroAstro list - Karen Skoler vedic astrology Friday, December 19, 2003 11:27 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra Dear Tanvir, >From my understanding of the principles given by Pt. Sanjay Rath in his book, Vedic Remedies in Astrology, let me add the following: The first mantra has 6 words and (if I'm counting them correctly) 9 akshara (phonemes). This means that the mantra draws power from the 6th house and effects the 9th house ( dharma). The second mantra has 5 words and 8 akshara and thus draws energy from 5th house and moves it to effect the 8th house ( occult knowledge, forgiveness of sins). In this manner, one can select a particular mantra for different purposes, or strengthening a particular planet in a horoscope. Best Wishes, Karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 I agree, this was very well put, Narasimha. We appreciate your giving freely of your knowledge and wisdom. So can any of these words, swaha, namaha and hum, be attached to any mantra and for any deity? As you suggested, namaha is probably most appropriate for most situations, but I am tempted to use Swaha when in the right spirit for submission. Thanks, Venkat vedic astrology, "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote: > Very informative and well explained. Thanks Narasimha Jee. > > Pranams, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Mail tanvir@s... > Personal http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > Astrology http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > Astro list > > - > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > vedic astrology > Friday, December 19, 2003 10:22 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > > Dear Tanvir, > > > dear all, namaste. > > > > what is the literal and practical difference between the two mantras and what is the difference of their appliabilities? > > > > "om shrim maha lakshmyai namaha om" > > > > "om shrim maha lakshmyai svaha" > > > > and can anyone please suggest should it sound "svaha" or "swaha" or "shwaha" ? > > > > thanks in advance, > > tanvir > > "Namah" is neuter in spirit. Swaha is feminine in spirit. Hum, Phat etc are masculine in spirit. > > The sex of the word used has nothing to do with the sex of the deity. It has to do with the spirit of the worship. > > When you are demanding something from a deity, use masculine words like Hum, Phat etc. However, be careful when you demand from a deity! :-) > > When you are completely sumbitting to a deity, use a feminine word like swaha. > > When you are neither demanding nor submitting, use a neuter word like namah. When you are not sure of your purpose and spirit, just use namah. > > This is what I was taught. Those who know more than me may kindly correct me. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Dear Narasimha, If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when making an offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the Agnikunda. Chandrashekhar. Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net]Friday, December 19, 2003 9:53 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra Dear Tanvir, > dear all, namaste.> > what is the literal and practical difference between the two mantras and what is the difference of their appliabilities?> > "om shrim maha lakshmyai namaha om"> > "om shrim maha lakshmyai svaha"> > and can anyone please suggest should it sound "svaha" or "swaha" or "shwaha" ?> > thanks in advance,> tanvir "Namah" is neuter in spirit. Swaha is feminine in spirit. Hum, Phat etc are masculine in spirit. The sex of the word used has nothing to do with the sex of the deity. It has to do with the spirit of the worship. When you are demanding something from a deity, use masculine words like Hum, Phat etc. However, be careful when you demand from a deity! :-) When you are completely sumbitting to a deity, use a feminine word like swaha. When you are neither demanding nor submitting, use a neuter word like namah. When you are not sure of your purpose and spirit, just use namah. This is what I was taught. Those who know more than me may kindly correct me. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Dear Chandrasekhar ji, Yes, that is a standard convention. Offering something in fire basically symbolizes submission and offering. However, dravya yajna (material fire ritual) is only one kind of yajna. Sri Krishna teaches that there are other non-material yajnas. Material yajnas are only symbolic. A yajna need not be material. So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. Atleast, this is my understanding. I will be away during the weekend in New Jersey. Talk to you all on Monday. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Dear Narasimha, > If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when making an > offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the Agnikunda. > Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Dear Nasimhaji, Yes your interpretation could be right.My view is that swaha refers to offering of things other than one's ego as in surrender. Like Indraaya swaha, Taxakaaya swaha. Of course I could be wrong. Regards, Chandrashekhar. pvr108 [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net]Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:01 AMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantraDear Chandrasekhar ji,Yes, that is a standard convention. Offering something in fire basically symbolizes submission and offering.However, dravya yajna (material fire ritual) is only one kind of yajna. Sri Krishna teaches that there are other non-material yajnas. Material yajnas are only symbolic. A yajna need not be material.So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering.Atleast, this is my understanding.I will be away during the weekend in New Jersey. Talk to you all on Monday.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Dear Narasimha,> If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when making an> offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the Agnikunda.> Chandrashekhar.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Jaya Jagannatha font-family:Tahoma"> font-family:Tahoma">Dear Chandrashekarji, font-family:Tahoma"> font-family:Tahoma">So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. font-family:Tahoma"> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black">Agree, this is how I am taught. 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black"> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black">Best regards, Swee color:black"> Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] font-family:Tahoma">20 December 2003 font-family:Tahoma">22:04 To: vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra Dear color:blue">Nasimhaji, Yes your interpretation could be right.My view is that swaha refers to offering of things other than one's ego as in surrender. Like Indraaya swaha, Taxakaaya swaha. Of course I could be wrong. Regards, Chandrashekhar. 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"> font-family:Tahoma"> pvr108 [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net] Saturday, December 20, 2003 font-family:Tahoma">5:01 AM To: vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">Dear Chandrasekhar ji, Yes, that is a standard convention. Offering something in fire basically symbolizes submission and offering. However, dravya yajna (material fire ritual) is only one kind of yajna. Sri Krishna teaches that there are other non-material yajnas. Material yajnas are only symbolic. A yajna need not be material. So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. Atleast, this is my understanding. I will be away during the weekend in New Jersey. Talk to you all on Monday. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Dear Narasimha, > If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when making an > offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the Agnikunda. > Chandrashekhar. To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Groups Links margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 1.0in"> font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol">· To visit your group on the web, go to: vedic astrology/ margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 1.0in"> Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol">· To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 1.0in"> Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol">· Your use of is subject to the 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"> Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Groups Links margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:list 1.0in"> font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol">· To visit your group on the web, go to: vedic astrology/ margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:list 1.0in"> Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol">· To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;tab-stops:list 1.0in"> Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol">· Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Dear Swee, The dictionary meaning of "Swaahaa" is " ind. (prob. fr. 5. %{su} and %{ah} ; cf. %{dur-AhA}) hail! hail to! may a blessing rest on! (with dat. ; an exclamation used in making oblations to the gods ; with %{kR} [ind. p. %{-kA4ram} , or %{-kRtya}] and acc. `" to pronounce the exclamation Sva1ha1 over "') RV. &c. &c." and " f. an oblation (offered to Agni , Indra &c.) or Oblation personified (as a daughter of Daksha and wife of Agni ; she is thought to preside over burnt-offerings ; her body is said to consist of the four Vedas , and her limbs are the six An3gas or members of the Veda ; she is represented also as a wife of the Rudra Pas3u-pati) RV. &c. &c." You can draw your own conclusions. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > > > Agree, this is how I am taught. > > > > Best regards, > > Swee > > > > > > > ** Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel] > *Sent**:* 20 December 2003 22:04 > *To:* vedic astrology > *Subject:* RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > > > Dear Nasimhaji, > > Yes your interpretation could be right.My view is that swaha refers to > offering of things other than one's ego as in surrender. Like > Indraaya swaha, Taxakaaya swaha. Of course I could be wrong. > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > ** pvr108 [pvr] > *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:01 AM > *To:* vedic astrology > *Subject:* [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji, > > Yes, that is a standard convention. Offering something in fire > basically symbolizes submission and offering. > > However, dravya yajna (material fire ritual) is only one kind of > yajna. Sri Krishna teaches that there are other non-material yajnas. > Material yajnas are only symbolic. A yajna need not be material. > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > Atleast, this is my understanding. > > I will be away during the weekend in New Jersey. Talk to you all on > Monday. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > >> Dear Narasimha, >> If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when > making an >> offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the > Agnikunda. >> Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > ------ > > * Links* > > · > vedic astrology/ > > > · > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > > · Terms > of Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > ------ > > * Links* > > · > vedic astrology/ > > > · > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > > · Terms of > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > * Sponsor* > > <http://rd./SIG=12cpfnpqm/M=266841.4316200.5507732.1261774/D=egroupweb/\ S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1072044275/A=1911856/R=0/*http://www.lifescapeinc.com/picasa\ /landing.php?capid=222&caId=1985> > > > > ------ > * Links* > > * > vedic astrology/ > > * > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Dear Chandrashekarji, Svaha is not an exclamation! Svaha means the Lord's transcendental potency by which everything is manifested; through mantra japa, offering of viniyoga and in the closing rites through oblations in the fire. Mahalakshmi is also referred to as Svaha (Padma Purana Section VI Uttarakhanda 186.12-33.) Best wishes, Swee www.brihaspati.net Chandrashekhar [boxdel] 21 December 2003 22:12 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra Dear Swee, The dictionary meaning of "Swaahaa" is " ind. (prob. fr. 5. %{su} and %{ah} ; cf. %{dur-AhA}) hail! hail to! may a blessing rest on! (with dat. ; an exclamation used in making oblations to the gods ; with %{kR} [ind. p. %{-kA4ram} , or %{-kRtya}] and acc. `" to pronounce the exclamation Sva1ha1 over "') RV. &c. &c." and " f. an oblation (offered to Agni , Indra &c.) or Oblation personified (as a daughter of Daksha and wife of Agni ; she is thought to preside over burnt-offerings ; her body is said to consist of the four Vedas , and her limbs are the six An3gas or members of the Veda ; she is represented also as a wife of the Rudra Pas3u-pati) RV. &c. &c." You can draw your own conclusions. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > > > Agree, this is how I am taught. > > > > Best regards, > > Swee > > > > > > > ** Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel] > *Sent**:* 20 December 2003 22:04 > *To:* vedic astrology > *Subject:* RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > > > Dear Nasimhaji, > > Yes your interpretation could be right.My view is that swaha refers to > offering of things other than one's ego as in surrender. Like > Indraaya swaha, Taxakaaya swaha. Of course I could be wrong. > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > ** pvr108 [pvr] > *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:01 AM > *To:* vedic astrology > *Subject:* [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji, > > Yes, that is a standard convention. Offering something in fire > basically symbolizes submission and offering. > > However, dravya yajna (material fire ritual) is only one kind of > yajna. Sri Krishna teaches that there are other non-material yajnas. > Material yajnas are only symbolic. A yajna need not be material. > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > Atleast, this is my understanding. > > I will be away during the weekend in New Jersey. Talk to you all on > Monday. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > >> Dear Narasimha, >> If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when > making an >> offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the > Agnikunda. >> Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > ------ > > * Links* > > . > vedic astrology/ > > > . > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > > . Terms > of Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > ------ > > * Links* > > . > vedic astrology/ > > > . > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > > . Terms of > Service <>. > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > * Sponsor* > > <http://rd./SIG=12cpfnpqm/M=266841.4316200.5507732.1261774/D=eg roupweb/S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1072044275/A=1911856/R=0/*http://www.lifesca peinc.com/picasa/landing.php?capid=222&caId=1985> > > > > ------ > * Links* > > * > vedic astrology/ > > * > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > vedic astrology/ vedic astrology Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Dear Swee, I merely reproduced what the dictionary states. I know that it does not mean an exclamation. It is an offering to Agni made after invoking the name of the deity to whom the offering is made. An example is " Indraaya swaahaa taxakaaya swaahaa". Read the story of King Janmejaya where you will find the shloka, and you will definitely agree.Swaahaa does not definitely mean the Lord's transcendental potency. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > Svaha is not an exclamation! > > Svaha means the Lord's transcendental potency by which everything is > manifested; through mantra japa, offering of viniyoga and in the closing > rites through oblations in the fire. > > Mahalakshmi is also referred to as Svaha > (Padma Purana Section VI Uttarakhanda 186.12-33.) > > Best wishes, > Swee > www.brihaspati.net > > > > > Chandrashekhar [boxdel] > 21 December 2003 22:12 > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > Dear Swee, > The dictionary meaning of "Swaahaa" is " ind. (prob. fr. 5. %{su} and > %{ah} ; cf. %{dur-AhA}) hail! hail to! may a blessing rest on! (with > dat. ; an exclamation used in making oblations to the gods ; with %{kR} > [ind. p. %{-kA4ram} , or %{-kRtya}] and acc. `" to pronounce the > exclamation Sva1ha1 over "') RV. &c. &c." and " f. an oblation (offered > > to Agni , Indra &c.) or Oblation personified (as a daughter of Daksha > and wife of Agni ; she is thought to preside over burnt-offerings ; her > body is said to consist of the four Vedas , and her limbs are the six > An3gas or members of the Veda ; she is represented also as a wife of the > > Rudra Pas3u-pati) RV. &c. &c." > You can draw your own conclusions. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > Swee Chan wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > > > > > > > Agree, this is how I am taught. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel] > > *Sent**:* 20 December 2003 22:04 > > *To:* vedic astrology > > *Subject:* RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > > > > > > > Dear Nasimhaji, > > > > Yes your interpretation could be right.My view is that swaha refers to > > > offering of things other than one's ego as in surrender. Like > > Indraaya swaha, Taxakaaya swaha. Of course I could be wrong. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > ** pvr108 [pvr] > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:01 AM > > *To:* vedic astrology > > *Subject:* [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji, > > > > Yes, that is a standard convention. Offering something in fire > > basically symbolizes submission and offering. > > > > However, dravya yajna (material fire ritual) is only one kind of > > yajna. Sri Krishna teaches that there are other non-material > yajnas. > > Material yajnas are only symbolic. A yajna need not be material. > > > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > > > Atleast, this is my understanding. > > > > I will be away during the weekend in New Jersey. Talk to you all > on > > Monday. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > >> Dear Narasimha, > >> If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when > > making an > >> offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the > > Agnikunda. > >> Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Dear Tanvir, Narasimha, I would just like to add another dimension to this discussion. Mantras have various attributes like beejas, shaktis, kilakas and astras. Phat is an astra while Hum, though a beeja is for damana or suppression. Hence these are usually used in powerful mantras specially powerful shakti mantras. Narasimha has correctly pointed out that namah and svaha depict one's attitude to worship and is usually suffixed at the end of mantras to complete them. Svaha is the wife of Agni and signifies the complete offering of oneself to the deity. During homas, the offering is always suffixed with svaha. Namah signifies the bowing of oneself to the deity in humility and prostration. It is the ultimate salutation. If your spirit is more attuned to a total offering of the self, svaha is more suitable. While namah is the ultimate pranam suffix and can used be anyone and at any times. It is the most general suffix used for mantras. Personally I always prefer svaha. Probably because my 9th lord Mars is in Krittika nakshatra conjunct my 5th lord. Check up your charts to see what is the spirit of your worship. Best regards, Sarbani Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net]Friday, December 19, 2003 9:53 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra Dear Tanvir, > dear all, namaste.> > what is the literal and practical difference between the two mantras and what is the difference of their appliabilities?> > "om shrim maha lakshmyai namaha om"> > "om shrim maha lakshmyai svaha"> > and can anyone please suggest should it sound "svaha" or "swaha" or "shwaha" ?> > thanks in advance,> tanvir "Namah" is neuter in spirit. Swaha is feminine in spirit. Hum, Phat etc are masculine in spirit. The sex of the word used has nothing to do with the sex of the deity. It has to do with the spirit of the worship. When you are demanding something from a deity, use masculine words like Hum, Phat etc. However, be careful when you demand from a deity! :-) When you are completely sumbitting to a deity, use a feminine word like swaha. When you are neither demanding nor submitting, use a neuter word like namah. When you are not sure of your purpose and spirit, just use namah. This is what I was taught. Those who know more than me may kindly correct me. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Dear Sarbani Jee, Indeed helpful. Thanks a lot :-)Namaste, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir ChowdhuryMail tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comPersonal http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirAstrology http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastroAstro list - Sarbani Sarkar vedic astrology Wednesday, December 24, 2003 11:19 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra Dear Tanvir, Narasimha, I would just like to add another dimension to this discussion. Mantras have various attributes like beejas, shaktis, kilakas and astras. Phat is an astra while Hum, though a beeja is for damana or suppression. Hence these are usually used in powerful mantras specially powerful shakti mantras. Narasimha has correctly pointed out that namah and svaha depict one's attitude to worship and is usually suffixed at the end of mantras to complete them. Svaha is the wife of Agni and signifies the complete offering of oneself to the deity. During homas, the offering is always suffixed with svaha. Namah signifies the bowing of oneself to the deity in humility and prostration. It is the ultimate salutation. If your spirit is more attuned to a total offering of the self, svaha is more suitable. While namah is the ultimate pranam suffix and can used be anyone and at any times. It is the most general suffix used for mantras. Personally I always prefer svaha. Probably because my 9th lord Mars is in Krittika nakshatra conjunct my 5th lord. Check up your charts to see what is the spirit of your worship. Best regards, Sarbani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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