Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste Kasim Ji and Guru's, Very good analysis, but can you please clarify to me on the following:- You said : "Jupiter is a functional malefic with respect to natal lagna taurus indicating tough year of obstacles.". But I thought, one has to see the Hora Lord's position and plaement in the corresponding TP Rasi and and Divisional charts for the analysis. Please consider the Hora Lord Jup in his TP Rasi Chart and see how that effects him, I do not have his chart infront of him right now. Which is one more important, Hora Lord's placement in the Natal Chart or the TP Rasi and TP's D-Charts ? Thanks for clarification and educating me. Regards Raghunadha Rao vedic astrology, kasim_ch@h... wrote: > Dear List members. > > Today Michael Jackson (one of my pop hero's)was formally charged with > child molestation. > > Birth details are August 29th 1958 23:44. > > I just drew up Michael Jackson's TP chart for 2003 > > September 11th 2003 9:33am (Timezone 5hrs West of GMT) 87W20,41N36 > > > It shows me just how remarkable this TP system actually is. > > Just look at the chart: > > Libra rises in lagna with Ketu. Insecurity and isolation to self. > Libra owns 6th house from natal lagna Taurus. Indicating disputes, > enemies, litigation. > Weekday is Thursday ruled by jupiter. Jupiter is a functional malefic > with respect to natal lagna taurus indicating tough year of obstacles. > > (Mahakala) Hora lord at the time is Venus. Lagna lord is Venus. Venus > falls debilitated in 12th !! Severe loss to self status. Although > rasi aspects of yogakaraka Saturn and 10th lord Moon do help Venus to > some extent. > > > Compressed Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Maha Dasas: > > Sat: 2003-09-01 - 2003-11-08 > Mer: 2003-11-08 - 2004-01-09 > Ket: 2004-01-09 - 2004-02-03 > Ven: 2004-02-03 - 2004-04-15 > Sun: 2004-04-15 - 2004-05-06 > Moo: 2004-05-06 - 2004-06-11 > Mar: 2004-06-11 - 2004-07-07 > Rah: 2004-07-07 - 2004-09-09 > Jup: 2004-09-09 - 2004-11-06 > > Mercury as the 12th lord has brought about this scandalous period. > > He is set to appear in court in mid-january as the Ketu period comes > into play. > > He may pull through and salvage himself in Sun mahadasa (May 2004) as > Sun is 11th lord placed in 11th house. In D10 11th lord sun is > exalted in 7th house with mars in own house. > > Lets see how things unfold.... > > But I must say for the few charts I have used TP system on, it works > really well. We are indebted to the Jyotish gurus who have brought > this to light. May God bless them dearly. > > Best wishes > > Kasim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Namaste Kasim, Wonderful! > Dear List members.> > Today Michael Jackson (one of my pop hero's)was formally charged with > child molestation.> > Birth details are August 29th 1958 23:44.> > I just drew up Michael Jackson's TP chart for 2003> > September 11th 2003 9:33am (Timezone 5hrs West of GMT) 87W20,41N36> > It shows me just how remarkable this TP system actually is.> > Just look at the chart:> > Libra rises in lagna with Ketu. Insecurity and isolation to self.> Libra owns 6th house from natal lagna Taurus. Indicating disputes, > enemies, litigation.> Weekday is Thursday ruled by jupiter. Jupiter is a functional malefic > with respect to natal lagna taurus indicating tough year of obstacles.> > (Mahakala) Hora lord at the time is Venus. Lagna lord is Venus. Venus Actually, I get Venus hora using sunrise and Sun's Mahakala hora using using 6 am LMT. Use the hora lord based on sunrise as the ruler of the year/month/day in TP charts. > falls debilitated in 12th !! Severe loss to self status. Although > rasi aspects of yogakaraka Saturn and 10th lord Moon do help Venus to > some extent. Unfortunately, Venus has no neecha bhanga. If you have the ruler of the year in 12th in neecha with neecha bhanga, the year is invariable bad. The 10th lord Moon aspects the ruler of the year and that shows some PR (Moon) effort (10th). But Moon owns bandhana sahamam. Moreover, Moon has papa kartari from Mars and Rahu (two malefics in parivartana!). Thus, this PR effort happens amid bad news. > Compressed Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > Maha Dasas:> > Sat: 2003-09-01 - 2003-11-08> Mer: 2003-11-08 - 2004-01-09> Ket: 2004-01-09 - 2004-02-03> Ven: 2004-02-03 - 2004-04-15> Sun: 2004-04-15 - 2004-05-06> Moo: 2004-05-06 - 2004-06-11> Mar: 2004-06-11 - 2004-07-07> Rah: 2004-07-07 - 2004-09-09> Jup: 2004-09-09 - 2004-11-06> > Mercury as the 12th lord has brought about this scandalous period.> > He is set to appear in court in mid-january as the Ketu period comes > into play. Interestingly, Mercury dasa is running till Jan 22, 2004 as per Tithi Ashtottari dasa too! But, honestly, do you think Mercury would become so bad by just being the 12th lord and being the dispositor of fallen lagna lord (and ruler of the year)? Why wasn't it Venus dasa? Why was it Mercury dasa? For seeing litigation and problems from enemies, don't ignore D-6. Mercury is the 6th lord in D-6 and joins Sun (problems from govt and press). Rahu and Ketu afflict 6th. In rasi, Rahu and Ketu in 6th can give material success, but not in D-6 and D-30. In those charts, having nodes in 6th is terrible. Moreover, I always emphasize that D-60 is the key ("shashtyamsekhilameekshayet" as per Parasara - see everything in D-60). Though we are not sure of D-60 lagfna, we can use the benefic/malefic amsa. In D-60, Mercury is in Karaala Danshtraamsa. Karala danshtra means "dark fangs". It is a malefic amsa. Planets in malefic shashtyamsas are destructive according to Parasara. I keep talking about compressing Narayana dasa and its variants in TP charts. Look at Padanaathaamsa dasa. Pisces dasa runs from the last week of Nov till Dec 21. Padanaathaamsa dasa is strictly about image. Look at it from pada (AL). Pisces is the 8th house from AL and its lord is in AL. His image was ruined! > He may pull through and salvage himself in Sun mahadasa (May 2004)as > Sun is 11th lord placed in 11th house. In D10 11th lord sun is > exalted in 7th house with mars in own house. Redemption of image is possible in Feb 24-April 28, 2004. That is Jupiter's Tithi Ashtottari dasa. > Lets see how things unfold....> > But I must say for the few charts I have used TP system on, it works > really well. We are indebted to the Jyotish gurus who have brought > this to light. May God bless them dearly. Thank you for the blessings! > Best wishes> > Kasim May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Dear Raghunada Rao, I hope you are well. I have attached for you a word document on TP from our jyotish gurus. You will see it is clearly stated: Use of Weekday, Lagna and Hora The annual chart is interpreted just like the natal chart, but there are some special considerations: (1) Weekday: Take the ruler of the weekday running at the commencement of New Year. If he is a benefic with respect to natal Lagna, it will be a favorable year. If he is a malefic with respect to natal Lagna, it will be an unfavorable year. (2) Lagna: Take the sign occupied by Lagna in the annual chart. If it is a quadrant or a trine from natal Lagna, the year will bring the fruits of good actions of the past, i.e. it will be a favorable year. If it is a Dusthana from natal Lagna, the year will bring the results of evil actions of the past, i.e. it will be a year of obstacles. (3) Hora: Take the ruler of the Hora (hour) running at the commencement of New Year. This planet will be the most important planet during the year, even more important than Lagna lord. The houses owned and occupied by this planet will set the tone for the main events of the year. The strength, placement and yogas of this planet will have a tremendous impact on the main events of the year. In addition, all the principles applicable in natal horoscopy will apply in annual horoscopy. So if you cast the chart for MJ TP 2003 (i have attached for you) with the details I gave then you will see: 1) Ruler of weekday = Jupiter. Jupiter is a malefic with respect to natal lagna therefore unfavourable year. 2) Lagna occupied by anual chart = Libra. It is a dusthana (6th) from natal lagna bringing the result of evil actions in the past and obstacles. 3) Hora (mahakaala) running at time of TP = Venus. Venus is also lagna lord. It is said that if lagna lord and Hora lord are both unfavourable it will be a bad year. Venus is debilitated in 12th house. Also you can use classical principals with this chart. For example 10th lord moon falls in 6th house of litigation, enemies etc... TP works very well and I am certainly looking forward to Narashimas further elucidations in his book coming out in spring. Hope this was some help on your astrological journey Raghunada, Best wishes Kasim >"Rao Nemani" <raon1008 >vedic astrology >vedic astrology >[vedic astrology] Re: Michael Jackson TP 2003 >Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:45:09 -0000 > >Hare Rama Krishna, > >Namaste Kasim Ji and Guru's, > >Very good analysis, but can you please clarify to me on the >following:- > >You said : > >"Jupiter is a functional malefic with respect to >natal lagna taurus indicating tough year of obstacles.". > >But I thought, one has to see the Hora Lord's position and >plaement in the corresponding TP Rasi and and Divisional >charts for the analysis. > >Please consider the Hora Lord Jup in his TP Rasi Chart >and see how that effects him, I do not have his chart >infront of him right now. > >Which is one more important, Hora Lord's placement in the >Natal Chart or the TP Rasi and TP's D-Charts ? > >Thanks for clarification and educating me. > >Regards >Raghunadha Rao > > > >vedic astrology, kasim_ch@h... wrote: > > Dear List members. > > > > Today Michael Jackson (one of my pop hero's)was formally charged >with > > child molestation. > > > > Birth details are August 29th 1958 23:44. > > > > I just drew up Michael Jackson's TP chart for 2003 > > > > September 11th 2003 9:33am (Timezone 5hrs West of GMT) 87W20,41N36 > > > > > > It shows me just how remarkable this TP system actually is. > > > > Just look at the chart: > > > > Libra rises in lagna with Ketu. Insecurity and isolation to self. > > Libra owns 6th house from natal lagna Taurus. Indicating disputes, > > enemies, litigation. > > Weekday is Thursday ruled by jupiter. Jupiter is a functional >malefic > > with respect to natal lagna taurus indicating tough year of >obstacles. > > > > (Mahakala) Hora lord at the time is Venus. Lagna lord is Venus. >Venus > > falls debilitated in 12th !! Severe loss to self status. Although > > rasi aspects of yogakaraka Saturn and 10th lord Moon do help Venus >to > > some extent. > > > > > > Compressed Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > Sat: 2003-09-01 - 2003-11-08 > > Mer: 2003-11-08 - 2004-01-09 > > Ket: 2004-01-09 - 2004-02-03 > > Ven: 2004-02-03 - 2004-04-15 > > Sun: 2004-04-15 - 2004-05-06 > > Moo: 2004-05-06 - 2004-06-11 > > Mar: 2004-06-11 - 2004-07-07 > > Rah: 2004-07-07 - 2004-09-09 > > Jup: 2004-09-09 - 2004-11-06 > > > > Mercury as the 12th lord has brought about this scandalous period. > > > > He is set to appear in court in mid-january as the Ketu period >comes > > into play. > > > > He may pull through and salvage himself in Sun mahadasa (May 2004) >as > > Sun is 11th lord placed in 11th house. In D10 11th lord sun is > > exalted in 7th house with mars in own house. > > > > Lets see how things unfold.... > > > > But I must say for the few charts I have used TP system on, it >works > > really well. We are indebted to the Jyotish gurus who have brought > > this to light. May God bless them dearly. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Kasim > _______________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile Attachment: (application/msword) Tithi Ashtottari Dasa Tutorial.doc [not stored] Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Jackson, Michael.jhd [not stored] Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Jackson, Michael TP 2003.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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