Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Dear Sir, Can I ask a doubt?What can be the combination for a total premature baldness (say by 30)but plenty of hair all over the body in a male? With respectful regards Kaimal - Sarajit Poddar <sarajit <vedic astrology> Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:59 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Parag, > > Saturn rules hair and nails. > > All the best > Sarajit > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Dear 'Indigenous', Interesting question- I was thinking about that too.. The most common opinion is that the hair is sexual symbol. One way or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache for man, as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively not 'asexual'/ Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no 'worldly desires, among which again, celibacy has the leading status. Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, above 'low sinful nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm in returning them their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- they must have some appeal for their followers /unconsciously?/ and since their rejection of worldly things, devotion to faith, spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are allowed to have that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike other mortals, lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that they are 'prone to sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on spiritual path.. This the base level understanding, because of numerous variations- monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to avoid sinful 'mediator'. In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as we've seen in myth. I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- strong Saturn, nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the less hair one will have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had less- and stronger Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless desirable, considered beautiful- I suspect that might be because Saturn and Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is exalted in Li- These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get this confirmed in everyday life- strong Sa-hair Hope to hear other's opinion, Annaindigenius <indigenius (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: I am not sure if this is the right forum for asking this question, but here goes anyway: I want to learn the symbolism behind hair. In almost all the cultures of the world, hair has deep symbolisms. Warriers always have sported long hair, and consider it utmost humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests usually have their heads shaved. On the other hand, there are those, that have head half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, this is visible among the shaolin monks, and even in India we have the concept of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, have long hair. Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used to think, that hair is like a connection with the physical world. The roots of the hair go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones head indicates our devotion to God and that we have given up the material world. But that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are depicted with thick long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? And since we are on that topic, what exactly are the astrological indicators of hair?Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Dear Anna from biology i have read that hair and nails are basically dead cells, so ketu could be the significator of the same. Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is significator of hair. regards partha vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > Dear 'Indigenous', > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that too.. > The most common opinion is that the hair is sexual symbol. One way or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache for man, as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively not 'asexual'/ > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no 'worldly desires, among which again, celibacy has the leading status. > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, above 'low sinful nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm in returning them their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > they must have some appeal for their followers /unconsciously?/ and since their rejection of worldly things, devotion to faith, spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are allowed to have that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike other mortals, lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that they are 'prone to sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on spiritual path.. > > This the base level understanding, because of numerous variations- monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to avoid sinful 'mediator'. > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as we've seen in myth. > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- strong Saturn, nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the less hair one will have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had less- and stronger Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless desirable, considered beautiful- I suspect that might be because Saturn and Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is exalted in Li- > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get this confirmed in everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > Anna > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > I am not sure if this is the right forum for asking this question, > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the symbolism behind hair. In > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has deep symbolisms. > Warriers always have sported long hair, and consider it utmost > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests usually have their > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are those, that have head > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, this is visible > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we have the concept > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, have long hair. > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used to think, that hair > is like a connection with the physical world. The roots of the hair > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones head indicates our > devotion to God and that we have given up the material world. But > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are depicted with thick > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? And since we are on > that topic, what exactly are the astrological indicators of hair? > > > Sponsor > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after thinking awile, makes sense. Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. Best wishes, Anna"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > wrote: Dear Annafrom biology i have read that hair and nails are basically dead cells, so ketu could be the significator of the same.Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is significator of hair.regardspartha--- In vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote:> Dear 'Indigenous',> > Interesting question- I was thinking about that too..> The most common opinion is that the hair is sexual symbol. One way or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache for man, as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively not 'asexual'/> Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no 'worldly desires, among which again, celibacy has the leading status.> > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, above 'low sinful nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm in returning them their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > they must have some appeal for their followers /unconsciously?/ and since their rejection of worldly things, devotion to faith, spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are allowed to have that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike other mortals, lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that they are 'prone to sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on spiritual path.. > > This the base level understanding, because of numerous variations- monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to avoid sinful 'mediator'.> In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as we've seen in myth.> > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- strong Saturn, nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the less hair one will have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had less- and stronger Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless desirable, considered beautiful- I suspect that might be because Saturn and Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is exalted in Li- > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get this confirmed in everyday life- strong Sa-hair> > Hope to hear other's opinion,> Anna> > indigenius <indigenius> wrote:> I am not sure if this is the right forum for asking this question, > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the symbolism behind hair. In > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has deep symbolisms. > Warriers always have sported long hair, and consider it utmost > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests usually have their > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are those, that have head > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, this is visible > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we have the concept > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, have long hair. > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used to think, that hair > is like a connection with the physical world. The roots of the hair > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones head indicates our > devotion to God and that we have given up the material world. But > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are depicted with thick > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? And since we are on > that topic, what exactly are the astrological indicators of hair?> > > Sponsor> Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharingArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Partha, Saturn must be the significator of hair else why would Sun in 1st house generally make a person bald? Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it be associated Mercury? Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva represent the stored up energy gained from medidation. And the Ganga water issues from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat therein. The Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair on the head except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara chakra. The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were detached from all the five senses and therefore didnt care for their appearance. Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other wannabe Samsons, it may have been the opposite (vanity)! regards Hari vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after thinking awile, makes sense. > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. > Best wishes, > Anna > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Dear Anna > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are basically dead > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the same. > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is significator of hair. > regards > partha > > > vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote: > > Dear 'Indigenous', > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that too.. > > The most common opinion is that the hair is sexual symbol. One way > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache for man, > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively not 'asexual'/ > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no 'worldly desires, > among which again, celibacy has the leading status. > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, above 'low sinful > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm in returning them > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > they must have some appeal for their followers /unconsciously?/ and > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion to faith, > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are allowed to have > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike other mortals, > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that they are 'prone to > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on spiritual path.. > > > > This the base level understanding, because of numerous variations- > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to avoid > sinful 'mediator'. > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as we've seen in myth. > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- strong Saturn, > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the less hair one will > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had less- and stronger > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless desirable, > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be because Saturn and > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is exalted in Li- > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get this confirmed in > everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > > Anna > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for asking this question, > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the symbolism behind hair. In > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has deep symbolisms. > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and consider it utmost > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests usually have their > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are those, that have head > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, this is visible > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we have the concept > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, have long hair. > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used to think, that hair > > is like a connection with the physical world. The roots of the hair > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones head indicates our > > devotion to God and that we have given up the material world. But > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are depicted with > thick > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? And since we are on > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological indicators of hair? > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Dear OnlyHari, I guess partha is right here. To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair. He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to now and long hair. His mail can be searched in the archive. Gurus can clarify more on it. Regards Parag --- onlyhari <onlyhari wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Partha, > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why > would Sun in 1st > house generally make a person bald? > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it > be associated > Mercury? > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva > represent the > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the > Ganga water issues > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat > therein. The > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair > on the head > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara > chakra. > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were > detached from all > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their > appearance. > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other > wannabe Samsons, it > may have been the opposite (vanity)! > > regards > Hari > vedic astrology, Anna > <bona_mente> wrote: > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after > thinking awile, > makes sense. > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. > > Best wishes, > > Anna > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > Dear Anna > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are > basically dead > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the > same. > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is > significator of hair. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna > <bona_mente> > wrote: > > > Dear 'Indigenous', > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that > too.. > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is > sexual symbol. One > way > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache > for man, > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively > not 'asexual'/ > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no > 'worldly > desires, > > among which again, celibacy has the leading > status. > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, > above 'low sinful > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm > in returning > them > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > they must have some appeal for their followers > /unconsciously?/ > and > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion > to faith, > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are > allowed to have > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike > other mortals, > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that > they are 'prone > to > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on > spiritual path.. > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of > numerous > variations- > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to > avoid > > sinful 'mediator'. > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as > we've seen in > myth. > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- > strong Saturn, > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the > less hair one > will > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had > less- and > stronger > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless > desirable, > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be > because Saturn and > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is > exalted in Li- > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get > this confirmed in > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > > > Anna > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for > asking this > question, > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the > symbolism behind hair. > In > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has > deep symbolisms. > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and > consider it utmost > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests > usually have > their > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are > those, that have head > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, > this is visible > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we > have the concept > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, > have long hair. > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used > to think, that > hair > > > is like a connection with the physical world. > The roots of the > hair > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones > head indicates our > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the > material world. > But > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are > depicted with > > thick > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? > And since we are > on > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological > indicators of hair? > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 May I draw your attention to ,"The story of Samson and Dalaila"?. Regards, Jagannathan.Anna <bona_mente > wrote: Dear 'Indigenous', Interesting question- I was thinking about that too.. The most common opinion is that the hair is sexual symbol. One way or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache for man, as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively not 'asexual'/ Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no 'worldly desires, among which again, celibacy has the leading status. Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, above 'low sinful nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm in returning them their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- they must have some appeal for their followers /unconsciously?/ and since their rejection of worldly things, devotion to faith, spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are allowed to have that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike other mortals, lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that they are 'prone to sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on spiritual path.. This the base level understanding, because of numerous variations- monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to avoid sinful 'mediator'. In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as we've seen in myth. I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- strong Saturn, nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the less hair one will have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had less- and stronger Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless desirable, considered beautiful- I suspect that might be because Saturn and Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is exalted in Li- These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get this confirmed in everyday life- strong Sa-hair Hope to hear other's opinion, Annaindigenius <indigenius (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: I am not sure if this is the right forum for asking this question, but here goes anyway: I want to learn the symbolism behind hair. In almost all the cultures of the world, hair has deep symbolisms. Warriers always have sported long hair, and consider it utmost humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests usually have their heads shaved. On the other hand, there are those, that have head half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, this is visible among the shaolin monks, and even in India we have the concept of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, have long hair. Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used to think, that hair is like a connection with the physical world. The roots of the hair go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones head indicates our devotion to God and that we have given up the material world. But that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are depicted with thick long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? And since we are on that topic, what exactly are the astrological indicators of hair?Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Jagannathan . India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Hi, I wondered about this before too. You might want to ask a face reader too because what I read from some books was that baldness is associated with having strong sexual desires. It made me think because I wondered why monks shave their heads...?...and for them why is it a preference...?...and then why like the rest of people here mentioned, why is the sun indicating baldness...?...I just wondered how that all fits together well, if you go on google and type 'why do monks shave their heads' you'll get some answers about the monks, or if you can ask someone personally that would be even better. well, i'm a female, so it's more common to have long hair and I highly doubt I will going bald anytime soon, but I have a preference for keeping my hair long and my sun is debilitated and I guess the saturn is strong in my chart. it would probably be a better study though to hear from men about their hair, since men are the ones who mostly go bald...but you know, some women even grow mustaches, I wonder what that's all about? Hmmm....well, take care, I liked your discussion you started Angie vedic astrology, "indigenius" <indigenius> wrote: > I am not sure if this is the right forum for asking this question, > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the symbolism behind hair. In > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has deep symbolisms. > Warriers always have sported long hair, and consider it utmost > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests usually have their > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are those, that have head > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, this is visible > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we have the concept > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, have long hair. > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used to think, that hair > is like a connection with the physical world. The roots of the hair > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones head indicates our > devotion to God and that we have given up the material world. But > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are depicted with thick > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? And since we are on > that topic, what exactly are the astrological indicators of hair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Even i heard that for nails and hair karaka is sani. Regards Raji Anna <bona_mente > wrote: Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after thinking awile, makes sense. Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. Best wishes, Anna"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > wrote: Dear Annafrom biology i have read that hair and nails are basically dead cells, so ketu could be the significator of the same.Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is significator of hair.regardspartha--- In vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote:> Dear 'Indigenous',> > Interesting question- I was thinking about that too..> The most common opinion is that the hair is sexual symbol. One way or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache for man, as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively not 'asexual'/> Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no 'worldly desires, among which again, celibacy has the leading status.> > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, above 'low sinful nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm in returning them their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > they must have some appeal for their followers /unconsciously?/ and since their rejection of worldly things, devotion to faith, spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are allowed to have that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike other mortals, lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that they are 'prone to sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on spiritual path.. > > This the base level understanding, because of numerous variations- monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to avoid sinful 'mediator'.> In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as we've seen in myth.> > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- strong Saturn, nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the less hair one will have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had less- and stronger Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless desirable, considered beautiful- I suspect that might be because Saturn and Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is exalted in Li- > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get this confirmed in everyday life- strong Sa-hair> > Hope to hear other's opinion,> Anna> > indigenius <indigenius> wrote:> I am not sure if this is the right forum for asking this question, > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the symbolism behind hair. In > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has deep symbolisms. > Warriers always have sported long hair, and consider it utmost > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests usually have their > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are those, that have head > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, this is visible > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we have the concept > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, have long hair. > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used to think, that hair > is like a connection with the physical world. The roots of the hair > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones head indicates our > devotion to God and that we have given up the material world. But > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are depicted with thick > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? And since we are on > that topic, what exactly are the astrological indicators of hair?> > > Sponsor> Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharingArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the New Photos - easier uploading and sharing Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Parag, Saturn rules hair and nails. All the best Sarajit parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair Dear OnlyHari, I guess partha is right here. To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair. He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to now and long hair. His mail can be searched in the archive. Gurus can clarify more on it. Regards Parag --- onlyhari <onlyhari wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Partha, > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why > would Sun in 1st > house generally make a person bald? > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it > be associated > Mercury? > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva > represent the > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the > Ganga water issues > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat > therein. The > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair > on the head > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara > chakra. > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were > detached from all > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their > appearance. > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other > wannabe Samsons, it > may have been the opposite (vanity)! > > regards > Hari > vedic astrology, Anna > <bona_mente> wrote: > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after > thinking awile, > makes sense. > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. > > Best wishes, > > Anna > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > Dear Anna > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are > basically dead > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the > same. > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is > significator of hair. > > regards > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna > <bona_mente> > wrote: > > > Dear 'Indigenous', > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that > too.. > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is > sexual symbol. One > way > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache > for man, > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively > not 'asexual'/ > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no > 'worldly > desires, > > among which again, celibacy has the leading > status. > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, > above 'low sinful > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm > in returning > them > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > they must have some appeal for their followers > /unconsciously?/ > and > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion > to faith, > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are > allowed to have > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike > other mortals, > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that > they are 'prone > to > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on > spiritual path.. > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of > numerous > variations- > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to > avoid > > sinful 'mediator'. > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as > we've seen in > myth. > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- > strong Saturn, > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the > less hair one > will > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had > less- and > stronger > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless > desirable, > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be > because Saturn and > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is > exalted in Li- > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get > this confirmed in > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > > > Anna > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for > asking this > question, > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the > symbolism behind hair. > In > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has > deep symbolisms. > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and > consider it utmost > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests > usually have > their > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are > those, that have head > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, > this is visible > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we > have the concept > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, > have long hair. > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used > to think, that > hair > > > is like a connection with the physical world. > The roots of the > hair > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones > head indicates our > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the > material world. > But > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are > depicted with > > thick > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? > And since we are > on > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological > indicators of hair? > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Dear all You are not thinking aloud. If sun in lagna makes a person lose his hair, then why does Sun represent Shiva!! People might think that saturn rules hair and nails because when we meditate we grow nails and hair!!! i really cant understand this logic. I will not explain my view point, please think aloud regards partha vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Parag, > > Saturn rules hair and nails. > > All the best > Sarajit > > > > > parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] > Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > > Dear OnlyHari, > > I guess partha is right here. > To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once > Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair. > He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu > that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to > now and long hair. > > His mail can be searched in the archive. > > Gurus can clarify more on it. > > Regards > Parag > > --- onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why > > would Sun in 1st > > house generally make a person bald? > > > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it > > be associated > > Mercury? > > > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva > > represent the > > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the > > Ganga water issues > > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat > > therein. The > > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair > > on the head > > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara > > chakra. > > > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were > > detached from all > > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their > > appearance. > > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other > > wannabe Samsons, it > > may have been the opposite (vanity)! > > > > regards > > Hari > > vedic astrology, Anna > > <bona_mente> wrote: > > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! > > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after > > thinking awile, > > makes sense. > > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. > > > Best wishes, > > > Anna > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > Dear Anna > > > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are > > basically dead > > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the > > same. > > > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is > > significator of hair. > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna > > <bona_mente> > > wrote: > > > > Dear 'Indigenous', > > > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that > > too.. > > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is > > sexual symbol. One > > way > > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache > > for man, > > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively > > not 'asexual'/ > > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no > > 'worldly > > desires, > > > among which again, celibacy has the leading > > status. > > > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, > > above 'low sinful > > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm > > in returning > > them > > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > > they must have some appeal for their followers > > /unconsciously?/ > > and > > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion > > to faith, > > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are > > allowed to have > > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike > > other mortals, > > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that > > they are 'prone > > to > > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on > > spiritual path.. > > > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of > > numerous > > variations- > > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to > > avoid > > > sinful 'mediator'. > > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as > > we've seen in > > myth. > > > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- > > strong Saturn, > > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the > > less hair one > > will > > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had > > less- and > > stronger > > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless > > desirable, > > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be > > because Saturn and > > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is > > exalted in Li- > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get > > this confirmed in > > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for > > asking this > > question, > > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the > > symbolism behind hair. > > In > > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has > > deep symbolisms. > > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and > > consider it utmost > > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests > > usually have > > their > > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are > > those, that have head > > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, > > this is visible > > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we > > have the concept > > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, > > have long hair. > > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used > > to think, that > > hair > > > > is like a connection with the physical world. > > The roots of the > > hair > > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones > > head indicates our > > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the > > material world. > > But > > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are > > depicted with > > > thick > > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? > > And since we are > > on > > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological > > indicators of hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 OM NAMASIVAYA Namaste. Dear Partha, Position of Upakethu is related to hair loss. That was in one of the old Malayalam text book on Parasara hora. I hope pundits may be able recall it. -sreekumar - V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:30 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair Dear allYou are not thinking aloud. If sun in lagna makes a person lose his hair, then why does Sun represent Shiva!!People might think that saturn rules hair and nails because when we meditate we grow nails and hair!!!i really cant understand this logic. I will not explain my view point, please think aloudregardsparthavedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Parag,> > Saturn rules hair and nails.> > All the best> Sarajit> > > > > parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] > Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM> vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair> > Dear OnlyHari,> > I guess partha is right here.> To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once> Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair.> He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu> that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to> now and long hair.> > His mail can be searched in the archive.> > Gurus can clarify more on it.> > Regards> Parag> > --- onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why> > would Sun in 1st > > house generally make a person bald?> > > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it> > be associated > > Mercury?> > > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva> > represent the > > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the> > Ganga water issues > > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat> > therein. The > > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair> > on the head > > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara> > chakra.> > > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were> > detached from all > > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their> > appearance. > > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other> > wannabe Samsons, it > > may have been the opposite (vanity)!> > > > regards> > Hari> > vedic astrology, Anna> > <bona_mente> wrote:> > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it!> > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after> > thinking awile, > > makes sense.> > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon..> > > Best wishes,> > > Anna> > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > > Dear Anna> > > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are> > basically dead > > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the> > same.> > > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is> > significator of hair.> > > regards> > > partha> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Anna> > <bona_mente> > > wrote:> > > > Dear 'Indigenous',> > > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that> > too..> > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is> > sexual symbol. One > > way > > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache> > for man, > > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively> > not 'asexual'/> > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no> > 'worldly > > desires, > > > among which again, celibacy has the leading> > status.> > > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual,> > above 'low sinful > > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm> > in returning > > them > > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > > they must have some appeal for their followers> > /unconsciously?/ > > and > > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion> > to faith, > > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are> > allowed to have > > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike> > other mortals, > > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that> > they are 'prone > > to > > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on> > spiritual path.. > > > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of> > numerous > > variations- > > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to> > avoid > > > sinful 'mediator'.> > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as> > we've seen in > > myth.> > > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair-> > strong Saturn, > > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the> > less hair one > > will > > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had> > less- and > > stronger > > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless> > desirable, > > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be> > because Saturn and > > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is> > exalted in Li- > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get> > this confirmed in > > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair> > > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion,> > > > Anna> > > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote:> > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for> > asking this > > question, > > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the> > symbolism behind hair. > > In > > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has> > deep symbolisms. > > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and> > consider it utmost > > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests> > usually have > > their > > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are> > those, that have head > > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows,> > this is visible > > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we> > have the concept > > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand,> > have long hair. > > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used> > to think, that > > hair > > > > is like a connection with the physical world.> > The roots of the > > hair > > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones> > head indicates our > > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the> > material world. > > But > > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are> > depicted with > > > thick > > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair?> > And since we are > > on > > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological> > indicators of hair?> > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard> http://antispam./whatsnewfree> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Hello all, I guess Mars has something to say about hair among other planets. Shaving head surely relates to Saturn. Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir ChowdhuryMail tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comPersonal http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirAstrology http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastroAstro list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Dear Partha, Are we not splitting- the HAIR here Regards, A. - V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:30 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair Dear allYou are not thinking aloud. If sun in lagna makes a person lose his hair, then why does Sun represent Shiva!!People might think that saturn rules hair and nails because when we meditate we grow nails and hair!!!i really cant understand this logic. I will not explain my view point, please think aloudregardsparthavedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Parag,> > Saturn rules hair and nails.> > All the best> Sarajit> > > > > parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] > Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM> vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair> > Dear OnlyHari,> > I guess partha is right here.> To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once> Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair.> He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu> that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to> now and long hair.> > His mail can be searched in the archive.> > Gurus can clarify more on it.> > Regards> Parag> > --- onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why> > would Sun in 1st > > house generally make a person bald?> > > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it> > be associated > > Mercury?> > > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva> > represent the > > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the> > Ganga water issues > > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat> > therein. The > > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair> > on the head > > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara> > chakra.> > > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were> > detached from all > > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their> > appearance. > > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other> > wannabe Samsons, it > > may have been the opposite (vanity)!> > > > regards> > Hari> > vedic astrology, Anna> > <bona_mente> wrote:> > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it!> > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after> > thinking awile, > > makes sense.> > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon..> > > Best wishes,> > > Anna> > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > > Dear Anna> > > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are> > basically dead > > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the> > same.> > > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is> > significator of hair.> > > regards> > > partha> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna> > <bona_mente> > > wrote:> > > > Dear 'Indigenous',> > > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that> > too..> > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is> > sexual symbol. One > > way > > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache> > for man, > > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively> > not 'asexual'/> > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no> > 'worldly > > desires, > > > among which again, celibacy has the leading> > status.> > > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual,> > above 'low sinful > > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm> > in returning > > them > > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > > they must have some appeal for their followers> > /unconsciously?/ > > and > > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion> > to faith, > > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are> > allowed to have > > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike> > other mortals, > > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that> > they are 'prone > > to > > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on> > spiritual path.. > > > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of> > numerous > > variations- > > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to> > avoid > > > sinful 'mediator'.> > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as> > we've seen in > > myth.> > > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair-> > strong Saturn, > > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the> > less hair one > > will > > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had> > less- and > > stronger > > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless> > desirable, > > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be> > because Saturn and > > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is> > exalted in Li- > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get> > this confirmed in > > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair> > > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion,> > > > Anna> > > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote:> > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for> > asking this > > question, > > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the> > symbolism behind hair. > > In > > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has> > deep symbolisms. > > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and> > consider it utmost > > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests> > usually have > > their > > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are> > those, that have head > > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows,> > this is visible > > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we> > have the concept > > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand,> > have long hair. > > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used> > to think, that > > hair > > > > is like a connection with the physical world.> > The roots of the > > hair > > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones> > head indicates our > > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the> > material world. > > But > > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are> > depicted with > > > thick > > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair?> > And since we are > > on > > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological> > indicators of hair?> > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard> http://antispam./whatsnewfree> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Dear all ! The Sun is a hot planet and because of this reason, whosoever has Sun in Lagna has the tendency of having the concentration of heat in head which seriously affect the hairs. The hairs tend to be grey early and there are chances of partial baldness. I don't thing, we should involve Lord Shiva for explaining such a petty reason. However, Lord Shiva is very hot in temprament and that is why he is embodiment of destruction. The Sun, the universal Jagadatma, represents Lord Shiva astrologically. Thanks, Vijay Kumar - V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:30 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair Dear allYou are not thinking aloud. If sun in lagna makes a person lose his hair, then why does Sun represent Shiva!!People might think that saturn rules hair and nails because when we meditate we grow nails and hair!!!i really cant understand this logic. I will not explain my view point, please think aloudregardsparthavedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Parag,> > Saturn rules hair and nails.> > All the best> Sarajit> > > > > parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] > Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM> vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair> > Dear OnlyHari,> > I guess partha is right here.> To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once> Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair.> He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu> that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to> now and long hair.> > His mail can be searched in the archive.> > Gurus can clarify more on it.> > Regards> Parag> > --- onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > > > Dear Partha,> > > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why> > would Sun in 1st > > house generally make a person bald?> > > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it> > be associated > > Mercury?> > > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva> > represent the > > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the> > Ganga water issues > > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat> > therein. The > > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair> > on the head > > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara> > chakra.> > > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were> > detached from all > > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their> > appearance. > > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other> > wannabe Samsons, it > > may have been the opposite (vanity)!> > > > regards> > Hari> > vedic astrology, Anna> > <bona_mente> wrote:> > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it!> > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after> > thinking awile, > > makes sense.> > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon..> > > Best wishes,> > > Anna> > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> > > Dear Anna> > > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are> > basically dead > > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the> > same.> > > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is> > significator of hair.> > > regards> > > partha> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Anna> > <bona_mente> > > wrote:> > > > Dear 'Indigenous',> > > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that> > too..> > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is> > sexual symbol. One > > way > > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache> > for man, > > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively> > not 'asexual'/> > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no> > 'worldly > > desires, > > > among which again, celibacy has the leading> > status.> > > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual,> > above 'low sinful > > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm> > in returning > > them > > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > > they must have some appeal for their followers> > /unconsciously?/ > > and > > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion> > to faith, > > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are> > allowed to have > > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike> > other mortals, > > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that> > they are 'prone > > to > > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on> > spiritual path.. > > > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of> > numerous > > variations- > > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to> > avoid > > > sinful 'mediator'.> > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as> > we've seen in > > myth.> > > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair-> > strong Saturn, > > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the> > less hair one > > will > > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had> > less- and > > stronger > > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless> > desirable, > > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be> > because Saturn and > > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is> > exalted in Li- > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get> > this confirmed in > > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair> > > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion,> > > > Anna> > > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote:> > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for> > asking this > > question, > > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the> > symbolism behind hair. > > In > > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has> > deep symbolisms. > > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and> > consider it utmost > > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests> > usually have > > their > > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are> > those, that have head > > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows,> > this is visible > > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we> > have the concept > > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand,> > have long hair. > > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used> > to think, that > > hair > > > > is like a connection with the physical world.> > The roots of the > > hair > > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones> > head indicates our > > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the> > material world. > > But > > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are> > depicted with > > > thick > > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair?> > And since we are > > on > > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological> > indicators of hair?> > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-> > astrology/info.html> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the> > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard> http://antispam./whatsnewfree> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hi, something to add is that I remember reading somewhere that it's important to know that the sun really is not a hot planet, but is only just light....I know this seems to contradict some things...like what you have written here and even about combust planets 'burning up' because of the heat of the sun....but that point had stuck in my mind, so I'm mentioning it. Angie vedic astrology, "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote: > Dear all ! > > The Sun is a hot planet and because of this reason, whosoever has Sun in Lagna has the tendency of having the concentration of heat in head which seriously affect the hairs. The hairs tend to be grey early and there are chances of partial baldness. > > I don't thing, we should involve Lord Shiva for explaining such a petty reason. However, Lord Shiva is very hot in temprament and that is why he is embodiment of destruction. The Sun, the universal Jagadatma, represents Lord Shiva astrologically. > > Thanks, > > Vijay Kumar > - > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:30 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > > > Dear all > > You are not thinking aloud. If sun in lagna makes a person lose his > hair, then why does Sun represent Shiva!! > People might think that saturn rules hair and nails because when we > meditate we grow nails and hair!!! > i really cant understand this logic. I will not explain my view > point, please think aloud > regards > partha > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" > <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Parag, > > > > Saturn rules hair and nails. > > > > All the best > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] > > Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > > > > Dear OnlyHari, > > > > I guess partha is right here. > > To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once > > Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair. > > He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu > > that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to > > now and long hair. > > > > His mail can be searched in the archive. > > > > Gurus can clarify more on it. > > > > Regards > > Parag > > > > --- onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why > > > would Sun in 1st > > > house generally make a person bald? > > > > > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it > > > be associated > > > Mercury? > > > > > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva > > > represent the > > > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the > > > Ganga water issues > > > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat > > > therein. The > > > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair > > > on the head > > > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara > > > chakra. > > > > > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were > > > detached from all > > > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their > > > appearance. > > > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other > > > wannabe Samsons, it > > > may have been the opposite (vanity)! > > > > > > regards > > > Hari > > > vedic astrology, Anna > > > <bona_mente> wrote: > > > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! > > > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after > > > thinking awile, > > > makes sense. > > > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > Dear Anna > > > > > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are > > > basically dead > > > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the > > > same. > > > > > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is > > > significator of hair. > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna > > > <bona_mente> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear 'Indigenous', > > > > > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that > > > too.. > > > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is > > > sexual symbol. One > > > way > > > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache > > > for man, > > > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively > > > not 'asexual'/ > > > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no > > > 'worldly > > > desires, > > > > among which again, celibacy has the leading > > > status. > > > > > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, > > > above 'low sinful > > > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm > > > in returning > > > them > > > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > > > they must have some appeal for their followers > > > /unconsciously?/ > > > and > > > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion > > > to faith, > > > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are > > > allowed to have > > > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike > > > other mortals, > > > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that > > > they are 'prone > > > to > > > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on > > > spiritual path.. > > > > > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of > > > numerous > > > variations- > > > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to > > > avoid > > > > sinful 'mediator'. > > > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as > > > we've seen in > > > myth. > > > > > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- > > > strong Saturn, > > > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the > > > less hair one > > > will > > > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had > > > less- and > > > stronger > > > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless > > > desirable, > > > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be > > > because Saturn and > > > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is > > > exalted in Li- > > > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get > > > this confirmed in > > > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > > > > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > > > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for > > > asking this > > > question, > > > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the > > > symbolism behind hair. > > > In > > > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has > > > deep symbolisms. > > > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and > > > consider it utmost > > > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests > > > usually have > > > their > > > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are > > > those, that have head > > > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, > > > this is visible > > > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we > > > have the concept > > > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, > > > have long hair. > > > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used > > > to think, that > > > hair > > > > > is like a connection with the physical world. > > > The roots of the > > > hair > > > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones > > > head indicates our > > > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the > > > material world. > > > But > > > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are > > > depicted with > > > > thick > > > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? > > > And since we are > > > on > > > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological > > > indicators of hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Terms of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Dear friends, My take on it: Hair is considered attractive. That is why when people are trying to concentrate their minds on higher objectives, they shave their hair off. The obvious example in present day India is with the priests, who shave their heads except for the tuft of hair that represents the energy of the divine. (the "aura" or the energy of the sahasrara chakra). (To go off on a tangent about the "tuft" .... The same theory is followed with coconuts used in puja, on the kalasham to represent the Devi, at least in Andhra Pradesh, I can't speak for the other places, since I don't know.... the fiber is removed from the coconut except for one tuft right on top.) Another example from ancient India was the shavign of the heads of the students prior to going to Gurukul. Even today, this is practiced partially, in the ceremony of Upanayanam, which traditionally began the student life of a boy in days of old. Shaving your head and gifting the hair to Lord Venkateswara in Tirupathi is a well know form of worship / penanace. Again, the theory is that hair is something highly desirable, so gifting it to God shows that you would give up even something so desirable for God. Rishis are a different story altogether. Sanyasins have always been above and beyond all rules. We, normal people, feel desires, and hence should stive to get beyond our desires. Sanyasins have no desires left, so it is all the same for them. We are like little kids, still learning to figure out 2+2=4, while the Sanyasins are in the Advanced Calculus stage, so they don't need any reminders that 2+2=4! If that is true for mortal sanyasins, what can we say about Lord Shiva who is the Adi Tapaswin? How can He have any desires, whether or not he has Jatas. Or, for that matter, Lord Vishnu with his beutiful long curly hair (indeed one of his names is Keshava!) has no desires either, except to help each and every one of us. As to which planet for hair - according to Western Astrology, it is Venus, the giver of all beauty. I know very very little of astrology, whether western or vedic, and am just a student, so wiser people in this group are free to correct me! Venkatarama vedic astrology, "Angela" <angelai73@s...> wrote: > Hi, something to add is that I remember reading somewhere that it's > important to know that the sun really is not a hot planet, but is > only just light....I know this seems to contradict some > things...like what you have written here and even about combust > planets 'burning up' because of the heat of the sun....but that > point had stuck in my mind, so I'm mentioning it. Angie > > vedic astrology, "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> > wrote: > > Dear all ! > > > > The Sun is a hot planet and because of this reason, whosoever has > Sun in Lagna has the tendency of having the concentration of heat in > head which seriously affect the hairs. The hairs tend to be grey > early and there are chances of partial baldness. > > > > I don't thing, we should involve Lord Shiva for explaining such a > petty reason. However, Lord Shiva is very hot in temprament and that > is why he is embodiment of destruction. The Sun, the universal > Jagadatma, represents Lord Shiva astrologically. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vijay Kumar > > - > > V.Partha sarathy > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:30 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > > > > > > Dear all > > > > You are not thinking aloud. If sun in lagna makes a person lose > his > > hair, then why does Sun represent Shiva!! > > People might think that saturn rules hair and nails because when > we > > meditate we grow nails and hair!!! > > i really cant understand this logic. I will not explain my view > > point, please think aloud > > regards > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" > > <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > > Dear Parag, > > > > > > Saturn rules hair and nails. > > > > > > All the best > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] > > > Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > > > > > > Dear OnlyHari, > > > > > > I guess partha is right here. > > > To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once > > > Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair. > > > He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu > > > that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to > > > now and long hair. > > > > > > His mail can be searched in the archive. > > > > > > Gurus can clarify more on it. > > > > > > Regards > > > Parag > > > > > > --- onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why > > > > would Sun in 1st > > > > house generally make a person bald? > > > > > > > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it > > > > be associated > > > > Mercury? > > > > > > > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva > > > > represent the > > > > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the > > > > Ganga water issues > > > > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat > > > > therein. The > > > > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair > > > > on the head > > > > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were > > > > detached from all > > > > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their > > > > appearance. > > > > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other > > > > wannabe Samsons, it > > > > may have been the opposite (vanity)! > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Hari > > > > vedic astrology, Anna > > > > <bona_mente> wrote: > > > > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! > > > > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after > > > > thinking awile, > > > > makes sense. > > > > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > > Dear Anna > > > > > > > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are > > > > basically dead > > > > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is > > > > significator of hair. > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna > > > > <bona_mente> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear 'Indigenous', > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that > > > > too.. > > > > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is > > > > sexual symbol. One > > > > way > > > > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache > > > > for man, > > > > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively > > > > not 'asexual'/ > > > > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no > > > > 'worldly > > > > desires, > > > > > among which again, celibacy has the leading > > > > status. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, > > > > above 'low sinful > > > > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm > > > > in returning > > > > them > > > > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > > > > they must have some appeal for their followers > > > > /unconsciously?/ > > > > and > > > > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion > > > > to faith, > > > > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are > > > > allowed to have > > > > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike > > > > other mortals, > > > > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that > > > > they are 'prone > > > > to > > > > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on > > > > spiritual path.. > > > > > > > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of > > > > numerous > > > > variations- > > > > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to > > > > avoid > > > > > sinful 'mediator'. > > > > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as > > > > we've seen in > > > > myth. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- > > > > strong Saturn, > > > > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the > > > > less hair one > > > > will > > > > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had > > > > less- and > > > > stronger > > > > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless > > > > desirable, > > > > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be > > > > because Saturn and > > > > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is > > > > exalted in Li- > > > > > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get > > > > this confirmed in > > > > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > > > > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for > > > > asking this > > > > question, > > > > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the > > > > symbolism behind hair. > > > > In > > > > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has > > > > deep symbolisms. > > > > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and > > > > consider it utmost > > > > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests > > > > usually have > > > > their > > > > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are > > > > those, that have head > > > > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, > > > > this is visible > > > > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we > > > > have the concept > > > > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, > > > > have long hair. > > > > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used > > > > to think, that > > > > hair > > > > > > is like a connection with the physical world. > > > > The roots of the > > > > hair > > > > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones > > > > head indicates our > > > > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the > > > > material world. > > > > But > > > > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are > > > > depicted with > > > > > thick > > > > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? > > > > And since we are > > > > on > > > > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological > > > > indicators of hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > > > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. 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Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hello Parag: Your note relating to Sanjay's views that Ketu represents hair and due to strong Ketu, the old Maharishis had long hair may be INCORRECT. I have a strong Ketu and I began loosing hair at very young age and I'm partially bald at 35. Ya, I do have Sun in the 7th house aspecting the 1st house and it many have caused my male-pattern-baldness. Mukund vedic astrology, "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote: > Dear all ! > > The Sun is a hot planet and because of this reason, whosoever has Sun in Lagna has the tendency of having the concentration of heat in head which seriously affect the hairs. The hairs tend to be grey early and there are chances of partial baldness. > > I don't thing, we should involve Lord Shiva for explaining such a petty reason. However, Lord Shiva is very hot in temprament and that is why he is embodiment of destruction. The Sun, the universal Jagadatma, represents Lord Shiva astrologically. > > Thanks, > > Vijay Kumar > - > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:30 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > > > Dear all > > You are not thinking aloud. If sun in lagna makes a person lose his > hair, then why does Sun represent Shiva!! > People might think that saturn rules hair and nails because when we > meditate we grow nails and hair!!! > i really cant understand this logic. I will not explain my view > point, please think aloud > regards > partha > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" > <sarajit@s...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Parag, > > > > Saturn rules hair and nails. > > > > All the best > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > parag dharmadhikari [dparagin] > > Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:26 PM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about Hair > > > > Dear OnlyHari, > > > > I guess partha is right here. > > To the best of my memory , as I can remember it, once > > Pt.Rath himself wrote on Ketu and Hair. > > He also suggested that since rishis had strong ketu > > that indicating as spirituality,long life compare to > > now and long hair. > > > > His mail can be searched in the archive. > > > > Gurus can clarify more on it. > > > > Regards > > Parag > > > > --- onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > > > Dear Partha, > > > > > > Saturn must be the significator of hair else why > > > would Sun in 1st > > > house generally make a person bald? > > > > > > Nails are an outgrowth of the skin and shouldnt it > > > be associated > > > Mercury? > > > > > > Sanjay mentioned that the matted locks of Lord Shiva > > > represent the > > > stored up energy gained from medidation. And the > > > Ganga water issues > > > from his head so as to dissipate the intense heat > > > therein. The > > > Brahmins of yesteryears used to shave all the hair > > > on the head > > > except for a singular tuft near the Sahasrara > > > chakra. > > > > > > The Rishis had long hair/beards because they were > > > detached from all > > > the five senses and therefore didnt care for their > > > appearance. > > > Nothing fancy about it. As for Samson and other > > > wannabe Samsons, it > > > may have been the opposite (vanity)! > > > > > > regards > > > Hari > > > vedic astrology, Anna > > > <bona_mente> wrote: > > > > Dear Partha, No Ketu! To extensive use of it! > > > > In some of Sanjay's books I found Saturn- after > > > thinking awile, > > > makes sense. > > > > Nails and hair.. Unexpensive fur and weapon.. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > Dear Anna > > > > > > > > from biology i have read that hair and nails are > > > basically dead > > > > cells, so ketu could be the significator of the > > > same. > > > > > > > > Some nadi granthas also say that Ketu is > > > significator of hair. > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Anna > > > <bona_mente> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear 'Indigenous', > > > > > > > > > > Interesting question- I was thinking about that > > > too.. > > > > > The most common opinion is that the hair is > > > sexual symbol. One > > > way > > > > or another most people see 'long hair' or mustache > > > for man, > > > > as 'attractive'/and attractiveness is definitively > > > not 'asexual'/ > > > > > Monks in monasteries have their heads shaved- no > > > 'worldly > > > desires, > > > > among which again, celibacy has the leading > > > status. > > > > > > > > > > Gods, rishis' etc. are proven to be spiritual, > > > above 'low sinful > > > > nature of mortals, andd therefore there is no harm > > > in returning > > > them > > > > their 'attractiveness, on the contrary- > > > > > they must have some appeal for their followers > > > /unconsciously?/ > > > and > > > > since their rejection of worldly things, devotion > > > to faith, > > > > spirituality, is beyond any doubt, they are > > > allowed to have > > > > that 'appeal' without prefix of sexuality /unlike > > > other mortals, > > > > lower grade monks, who must have a reminder that > > > they are 'prone > > > to > > > > sin of touch and sex, until they 'mature' on > > > spiritual path.. > > > > > > > > > > This the base level understanding, because of > > > numerous > > > variations- > > > > monotheism says Jesus was born from Virgin- to > > > avoid > > > > sinful 'mediator'. > > > > > In polytheism, gods can be lustful, sinful, as > > > we've seen in > > > myth. > > > > > > > > > > I've learnt from Jyotish that Saturn rules hair- > > > strong Saturn, > > > > nice thick lots of hair..The stronger the Sun the > > > less hair one > > > will > > > > have- being owner of long thick hair, I wish I had > > > less- and > > > stronger > > > > Sun in my horoscope. Having hair is nevertheless > > > desirable, > > > > considered beautiful- I suspect that might be > > > because Saturn and > > > > Venus are really very good friends, and Sa is > > > exalted in Li- > > > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts..And I seem to get > > > this confirmed in > > > > everyday life- strong Sa-hair > > > > > > > > > > Hope to hear other's opinion, > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > indigenius <indigenius> wrote: > > > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum for > > > asking this > > > question, > > > > > but here goes anyway: I want to learn the > > > symbolism behind hair. > > > In > > > > > almost all the cultures of the world, hair has > > > deep symbolisms. > > > > > Warriers always have sported long hair, and > > > consider it utmost > > > > > humiliation to cut off someone's locks. Priests > > > usually have > > > their > > > > > heads shaved. On the other hand, there are > > > those, that have head > > > > > half shaved off, and the rest of the hair grows, > > > this is visible > > > > > among the shaolin monks, and even in India we > > > have the concept > > > > > of "Shikha". All the gods, on the on other hand, > > > have long hair. > > > > > Shiva is even symbolized by his "Jatas". I used > > > to think, that > > > hair > > > > > is like a connection with the physical world. > > > The roots of the > > > hair > > > > > go into the spiritual realm, and shaving ones > > > head indicates our > > > > > devotion to God and that we have given up the > > > material world. > > > But > > > > > that is obviously wrong since all the Rishis are > > > depicted with > > > > thick > > > > > long hair. So what is the deal with the hair? > > > And since we are > > > on > > > > > that topic, what exactly are the astrological > > > indicators of hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > > > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Terms of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > > http://antispam./whatsnewfree > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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