Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Dear Pradeep, There are many variations of Neechabhanga Rajayoga given in various texts, oncluding the ones given by you. The strongest one is formed when Lord of the houselord of the house in which the Neecha planet attains exaltation( taducchanath) , is placed in Kendra from the Ascendant or Moon. Even here the one formed by the said planet being square to Ascendant is more powerful than that by squaring the Moon is what I think. Of course the other combinations do reduce the effect of planet being Neecha to some extent. Cancellation of a planet being Necha, which is different from above is also caused when the same planet is in exaltation in navamsha. In the chart where Moon is in scorpio, it is Venus( lord of Tarus the exaltation sign of Moon) should be squaring Ascendant for a Rajayoga of NBR variety to occur. Others may hold different views. Hope this helps, Chandrashekhar. Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote: Message Dear Chandrashekar ji Among the definitions of Neecha Bhanga I have seen (only translated ones). The following two are in sync with the below chart. If the ruler of the sign occupied by the debilitated planet is in a kendra position from the Moon or the Logna. (In the chart ruler is Mars and it is in kendra from moon as moon conjuncts mars) If the ruler of the sign occupied by the debilitated planet aspects the planet. (here mars ia aspecting moon ,because of conjunction) Have i understood these definitions properly. Thanks Pradeep Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Montag, 7. Juli 2003 22:17 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA - Chart and details Dear Pradeep, Venus exated, specially as he is yoga karaka and Saturn in exchange of house with Jupiter would make a difference. Both 3rd lord and Ascendant lord get strength. Moon debilitated with Mars would not give rise to VRY. Chandrashekhar. Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote: Dear Chandrashekarji This individual did get help from siblings and they were never against.But no scarifice kind of.Moreover the siblings did not suffer from any serious troubles.All the siblings were able to get decent education.But no sibling could get status and fame as this individual. Moreover saturn in third house was along with exalted venus.any help because of this? In labhasthana conjunction of Moon,Mars and Rahu is in scorpio.Debiliated Moon with 8th lord Mars produce Neecha bhanga Raja yoga? KALASARPA YOGA ? - Rahu and Ketu are not alone. ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MON * * * 11* * 9 * MAR * * VEN 12 * Asc * 8 RAH * * SAT * * * * * * * * JUP * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10 * * * ** * * ** * SUN 1 * 7 * ** * 4 * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *MER 2 * * 6 * *KET * 3 * * 5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* if the learned members would like to know any further details or life incidents,this can be provided. birth details (29th april,1937 00.50 AM,TRIVANDRUM,INDIA) Thanks Pradeep Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Sonntag, 6. Juli 2003 21:24 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Pradeep, If you could , ask him whether any of the brothers helped him/sacrificed for him aiding his success? Of course we are talking about natal chart only and if the lord of 3rd is weak in Navamsha, help from brothers could be lacking. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekar ji The person has 6 brothers and 2 sisters and he is the eldest person.But success and fame was because of own effort.so thus can it inferred that happiness due to more brothers and sisters are the only benefit of this exchange.Or any other benefits due to this exchange. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Pradeep, > In that case, the prson comes up in life by dint of his own efforts. > Sometimes he gets help of his brothers in his elevation. > Chandrashekhar. > > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote: > > > Dear Zoran ji and chandrashekar ji > > > > How could be the results if there is an exchange between lagna lord > > and debiliated 3rd lord.eg. for Capri lagna jupiter the lord of third > > is in lagna and shani lord of lagna is in third.What general results > > can be expected because of third and lagna lords. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic [ahimsa@N...] > > Freitag, 4. Juli 2003 05:13 > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. > > > > Dear Chandrakeshar, > > Ernst has given a very valid thinking, 3rd, 6th and 8th lords in > > debilitation while Lagnesh is well placed, gives Raja Yoga > > see Parashara. Further, Tasmin Ucha Neecha Ve Shrimanath- Jaimini, > > so exalted and debilitated grahas are giver of wealth, > > If Guru is in Capricorn Lagna while, Shani is in own sign in > > kumbha, a great wealth may come > > Best wishes > > Zoran > > > > Chandrashekhar Sharma wrote: > > > >> Dear Mofie, > >> mahapurusha yoga is given rise to in any of the Quadrants, and > >> not just 7th. The reason for Jupiter's good result in > >> debilitation is that Jupiter is said to harm the house that he is > >> placed in (Sthana Bhrashta), in exaltation his strength > >> increases. Again he aspects his exaltation sign when placed in > >> debilitation, leading to beneficial effects. As a matter of fact > >> one learned Jyotishi, Shri Katwe, was of the firm opinion that it > >> is the debilitated planets that give rise to benefic yogas. Of > >> course this is not a generally held opinion. > >> Chandrashekhar. > >> > >> > >> Mofie Augustine wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Guru's > >>> > >>> Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri > >>> lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is more > >>> favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that > >>> though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha > >>> Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in > >>> lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> Mofie > >>> > >>> onlyhari wrote: > >>> > >>>> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > >>>> Dear Pradeep, > >>>> > >>>> Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual > >>>> shall > >>>> never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. > >>>> > >>>> The question is why? > >>>> > >>>> regards > >>>> Hari > >>>> > >>>> vedic astrology , "Vijayadas, Pradeep > >>>> Kumar" > >>>> <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > >>>> > Respected members > >>>> > > >>>> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is > >>>> present,can > >>>> > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this > >>>> from a > >>>> > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > >>>> > > >>>> > Thanks > >>>> > Pradeep > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ********************************************************************* > >>>> ******* > >>>> > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential > >>>> use of the > >>>> > person addressed. 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