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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Anna,

 

> I am wondering about the reason you placed so much importance on

analysis up to the sixth level Vimsottari.

> What is predictive value of such juggler's 'complication' with

overwhelming calculation, overload of concepts?

 

Even Parashara has spent 13 Chapters in BPHS for just Vimshottari

dasa upto 6 levels. What Narasimhaji has taught is very valuable and

this exercise will help us solve many problems in astrology. You can

either take this exercise as Virgoin primness or as an exercise which

could help solve many other astrological issues like Special lagna's

(Nisheka, Ghatika etc), Ayanamsa, Kaalachakra dasa etc.

 

Warm Regards

S. Prabhakaran

Om Tat Sat

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Dear Narasimha,

 

I am wondering about the reason you placed so much importance on analysis up to

the sixth level Vimsottari.

What is predictive value of such juggler's 'complication' with overwhelming

calculation, overload of concepts?

That we might be able to

"know" post-factum and explain past event? I feel most people get irritated by

'beautiful concepts sterile in terms of

prediction. You clearly listed obstacles /maybe we don't know enough about

Moon's long, maybe some other

forces intervene, even than we should deduct 1hour etc../, we all know that

birth times need rectification, most

people are not good in predictions, and instead of strengthening what we've

learned so far, and dwelling on better

interpretation of already discussed techniques, we are "showered" by new and new

and new prediction tools

promising us that if we escape all known and unknown obstacles /plus trust your

experience for correction!sic!/

we'll be able to say what will happen in the small segment covering couple of

hours of time! And we all have clearly

seen that prediction business for much longer duration and more important events

is not even close to

smooth successful, accurate. Nobody bothers to do research to prove anything-

besides as Jay says theory is

one thing, practice another.

 

But based on which assumption, you decided to go and teach sixth-level, up to

Deha. I like stories, I like myths-

but I wish to se Jyotish astrology fulfilling its major task- accurate

prediction. I am wondering why and who will buy this?

Narasimha, I hope you'll see this as a friendly, my personal view, only

Nothing personal and malicious intended- I hope it's clear enough to everybody

 

Best wishes,

Anna

 

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vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote:

Dear Narasimha,

 

I am wondering about the reason you placed so much importance on

analysis up to the sixth level Vimsottari.

What is predictive value of such juggler's 'complication' with

overwhelming calculation, overload of concepts?

That we might be able to

"know" post-factum and explain past event? I feel most people get

irritated by 'beautiful concepts sterile in terms of

prediction. You clearly listed obstacles /maybe we don't know enough

about Moon's long, maybe some other

forces intervene, even than we should deduct 1hour etc../, we all

know that birth times need rectification, most

people are not good in predictions, and instead of strengthening

what we've learned so far, and dwelling on better

interpretation of already discussed techniques, we are "showered" by

new and new and new prediction tools

promising us that if we escape all known and unknown obstacles /plus

trust your experience for correction!sic!/

we'll be able to say what will happen in the small segment covering

couple of hours of time! And we all have clearly

seen that prediction business for much longer duration and more

important events is not even close to

smooth successful, accurate. Nobody bothers to do research to prove

anything- besides as Jay says theory is

one thing, practice another.

 

But based on which assumption, you decided to go and teach sixth-

level, up to Deha. I like stories, I like myths-

but I wish to se Jyotish astrology fulfilling its major task-

accurate prediction. I am wondering why and who will buy this?

Narasimha, I hope you'll see this as a friendly, my personal view,

only

Nothing personal and malicious intended- I hope it's clear enough to

everybody

 

Best wishes,

Anna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Anna:

 

Nicely written, I agree that we are over-bombarded with NEW

techniques and "previously hidden, now disclosed to all" theories

about jyothish.

 

Anna, I grew up in India and I've heard over and over again crooked

astrologers talking about "famlily prediction secrets he learned from

grandpa or great-grandpa" that he is NOW opening up to the public,

etc. etc. I've even heard Sanjay talk about some "family jyotish

secrets he learned from grandpa kashinath" that he is NOW opening up

to the public.--what mumbo, jumbo.

 

I'm just getting over several months of attempting to learn

the "Systems Approach" which looked sexy at first, but which was a

big heap of crap that didn't work or didn't make sense and deviated

too much from the principles of the original masters Parashara and

Satyacharya.

 

The truth is one doesn't need to look at a million different lagnas

or a million different dashas to make predictions.

 

Planets is houses and planets in rashis is GOOD enough to make a GOOD

prediction. The reality is that even if one is predicting at the most

basic level, the planets in rashis and planets in houses is

DIFFICULT to master AS each planet gives MANY different types of

results for the same combination.

 

Just look at Bill Gates' chart--debilitated Sun, one would predict

him to be a faliure in managerial capacity, poor relationship with

father or poor health of the father. However, a debilitated Sun

casued Bill to control EVERYTHING and annihlate ALL competitors. This

debilitated Sun made him extremely possessive about his father and

his reputation--I see most of the charities here in Seattle area

named after Bill's father.

 

I have a friend who had debilitated Saturn, one would predict a poor,

wealth-less man. However, my friend is extremely wealthy; however,

day and night all he thinks about is money, despite having all this

wealth, he FEELS poor.

 

The point I'm making is that it takes a LIFETIME to learn what

planets in rashis and planets in houses REALLY mean and what sort of

results would they give SO why get involved with a MILLION lagnas and

a MILLION dashas??? Just keep it simple and stay at the most basic

level of Jyotish (planets in houses and planets in rashish) which in

itself is so unpredictable.

 

And, the reality is that NO ASTROLOGER including the great ones like

Sanjay, KN Rao, Braha, Huock (deceased), Rohini Ranjan can make an

accurate prediction. -- Ya, they are all VERY GOOD at post-

moterm,i.e. associating events (after they've happened) to planetary

combinations; howeve, none can make an accurate prediction or even

dare to make predictions as the probability of failing is extremely

high and they know it. -- Just take the case of Sachin Tendulkar, if

you ask one of these great astrologers, ALL will come up with some

planetary excuse for his recent faliures; however, no-one accurately

predicted his faliure (before the fact), in-fact, Narshimha predicted

a GOOD score for Sachin.

 

Mukund

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente> wrote:

>

>

> Anna <bona_mente> wrote:Dear Narasimha,

>

> I am wondering about the reason you placed so much importance on

analysis up to the sixth level Vimsottari.

> What is predictive value of such juggler's 'complication' with

overwhelming calculation, overload of concepts?

> That we might be able to

> "know" post-factum and explain past event? I feel most people get

irritated by 'beautiful concepts sterile in terms of

> prediction. You clearly listed obstacles /maybe we don't know

enough about Moon's long, maybe some other

> forces intervene, even than we should deduct 1hour etc../, we all

know that birth times need rectification, most

> people are not good in predictions, and instead of strengthening

what we've learned so far, and dwelling on better

> interpretation of already discussed techniques, we are "showered"

by new and new and new prediction tools

> promising us that if we escape all known and unknown

obstacles /plus trust your experience for correction!sic!/

> we'll be able to say what will happen in the small segment

covering couple of hours of time! And we all have clearly

> seen that prediction business for much longer duration and more

important events is not even close to

> smooth successful, accurate. Nobody bothers to do research to prove

anything- besides as Jay says theory is

> one thing, practice another.

>

> But based on which assumption, you decided to go and teach sixth-

level, up to Deha. I like stories, I like myths-

> but I wish to se Jyotish astrology fulfilling its major task-

accurate prediction. I am wondering why and who will buy this?

> Narasimha, I hope you'll see this as a friendly, my personal view,

only

> Nothing personal and malicious intended- I hope it's clear enough

to everybody

>

> Best wishes,

> Anna

>

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Dear Mukund,

I am sorry, it seems to me that you used my post to 'upgrade'it

toooo far from my initial intention- I am not happy with that! In

fact, most obvious thing that I picked up from your mail is that you

are- angry!

No, Mukund, NO!

That applies in general, I am unable to comment on what you wrote in

detail, and frankly don't feel it would make any difference for you.

And your statements are sooo generalized /some unfounded altogether/

that hardly fit in 'constructive criticism' category- which is the

only one worth commenting, IMHO.

 

Just one thing I want to mention- if it's not for that knowledge

from traditional sources, 'parampara', /which Sanjay generously

shared with us all!/, would we be able to get pieces together

from /partly lost, translated,interpreted, and changed, in the

course of time, etc/ classic texts, ONLY, available to us now?

 

You are certainly free to do that-

 

/I hear you that you are an Indian, that's fine, you may know more

than I do, but in absence of better arguments, the fact that I am

non-Indian doesn't deprive me of my right to have an opinion on an

Indian science, as Jyotish is- hope you'd agree/

 

Best regards,

Anna

 

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Hello Anna:

>

> Nicely written, I agree that we are over-bombarded with NEW

> techniques and "previously hidden, now disclosed to all" theories

> about jyothish.

>

> Anna, I grew up in India and I've heard over and over again

crooked

> astrologers talking about "famlily prediction secrets he learned

from

> grandpa or great-grandpa" that he is NOW opening up to the public,

> etc. etc. I've even heard Sanjay talk about some "family jyotish

> secrets he learned from grandpa kashinath" that he is NOW opening

up

> to the public.--what mumbo, jumbo.

>

> I'm just getting over several months of attempting to learn

> the "Systems Approach" which looked sexy at first, but which was a

> big heap of crap that didn't work or didn't make sense and

deviated

> too much from the principles of the original masters Parashara and

> Satyacharya.

>

> The truth is one doesn't need to look at a million different

lagnas

> or a million different dashas to make predictions.

>

> Planets is houses and planets in rashis is GOOD enough to make a

GOOD

> prediction. The reality is that even if one is predicting at the

most

> basic level, the planets in rashis and planets in houses is

> DIFFICULT to master AS each planet gives MANY different types of

> results for the same combination.

>

> Just look at Bill Gates' chart--debilitated Sun, one would predict

> him to be a faliure in managerial capacity, poor relationship with

> father or poor health of the father. However, a debilitated Sun

> casued Bill to control EVERYTHING and annihlate ALL competitors.

This

> debilitated Sun made him extremely possessive about his father and

> his reputation--I see most of the charities here in Seattle area

> named after Bill's father.

>

> I have a friend who had debilitated Saturn, one would predict a

poor,

> wealth-less man. However, my friend is extremely wealthy; however,

> day and night all he thinks about is money, despite having all

this

> wealth, he FEELS poor.

>

> The point I'm making is that it takes a LIFETIME to learn what

> planets in rashis and planets in houses REALLY mean and what sort

of

> results would they give SO why get involved with a MILLION lagnas

and

> a MILLION dashas??? Just keep it simple and stay at the most basic

> level of Jyotish (planets in houses and planets in rashish) which

in

> itself is so unpredictable.

>

> And, the reality is that NO ASTROLOGER including the great ones

like

> Sanjay, KN Rao, Braha, Huock (deceased), Rohini Ranjan can make an

> accurate prediction. -- Ya, they are all VERY GOOD at post-

> moterm,i.e. associating events (after they've happened) to

planetary

> combinations; howeve, none can make an accurate prediction or even

> dare to make predictions as the probability of failing is

extremely

> high and they know it. -- Just take the case of Sachin Tendulkar,

if

> you ask one of these great astrologers, ALL will come up with some

> planetary excuse for his recent faliures; however, no-one

accurately

> predicted his faliure (before the fact), in-fact, Narshimha

predicted

> a GOOD score for Sachin.

>

> Mukund

vedic astrology, Anna <bona_mente>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Anna <bona_mente> wrote:Dear Narasimha,

> >

> > I am wondering about the reason you placed so much importance on

> analysis up to the sixth level Vimsottari.

> > What is predictive value of such juggler's 'complication' with

> overwhelming calculation, overload of concepts?

> > That we might be able to

> > "know" post-factum and explain past event? I feel most people

get

> irritated by 'beautiful concepts sterile in terms of

> > prediction. You clearly listed obstacles /maybe we don't know

> enough about Moon's long, maybe some other

> > forces intervene, even than we should deduct 1hour etc../, we

all

> know that birth times need rectification, most

> > people are not good in predictions, and instead of strengthening

> what we've learned so far, and dwelling on better

> > interpretation of already discussed techniques, we

are "showered"

> by new and new and new prediction tools

> > promising us that if we escape all known and unknown

> obstacles /plus trust your experience for correction!sic!/

> > we'll be able to say what will happen in the small segment

> covering couple of hours of time! And we all have clearly

> > seen that prediction business for much longer duration and more

> important events is not even close to

> > smooth successful, accurate. Nobody bothers to do research to

prove

> anything- besides as Jay says theory is

> > one thing, practice another.

> >

> > But based on which assumption, you decided to go and teach sixth-

> level, up to Deha. I like stories, I like myths-

> > but I wish to se Jyotish astrology fulfilling its major task-

> accurate prediction. I am wondering why and who will buy this?

> > Narasimha, I hope you'll see this as a friendly, my personal

view,

> only

> > Nothing personal and malicious intended- I hope it's clear

enough

> to everybody

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Anna

> >

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