Question about benefic/malefic planets - Chandrashekhar ji

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks again for making these fundamental points, though simple but

complex,very clear.

 

So if a natural malefic Saturn is a functional benefic and placed in

its own house,it should be very strong and hence should give good

reults to the house in which it is placed?

 

Similarly if a natural benefic say jupiter ,but functional malefic

exalted in cancer and hence strong - how will it behave? good

results while aspecting? Bad results(properties of owning houses) to

the house in which he is posited?.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

dic-astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Kanwarpreet,

> You will have to read more to understand this.However understand

that

>

> 1.Natural benefics have role in their aspects as do the Malefics

and precise

> results of their house placement. However Functional benefic /

malefics

> results are to be viewed from the point of view of their influence

on the

> house that they tenant. Jupiter being Vargottama and retrograde

will be

> powerful but the results will have to be seen as Lord of 11th and

8th.His

> inherent nature will also have to be taken into account Benefics

give

> beneficial results more when strong as do even the Malefics. Week

malefic

> has his malfeasance increased.

>

> 2 Ashtakavarga system is an attempt in the direction of giving

values to

> planet's strengths as also that of Bhava.

>

> 3. The balas indicate strengths of the planets. Malfeasance or

beneficence

> to be understood as at 1 above.

>

> 4. I am of the opinion that, Rahu should not be termed functional

malefic or

> benefic as it is a Chayagraha, though some take it to be such. He

would give

> results of the planets with whom he associates or whose house he

tenants.

> When alone he gives results of Saturn. In your case being,

presumably alone

> in Kendra he is capable of giving rise to Rajyoga during his

Dashas and

> appropriate transit position. Add to this the fact that for Taurus

Lagna

> Saturn is Yoga karaka and the results during his Dasha should be

clear.

> Hope this helps.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

> kanwarpreet_grewal [kanwarpreet_grewal]

> Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:05 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Question about benefic/malefic planets

>

>

>

> Hi,

> I have read some books on astrology but I am really confused

> about some points:

>

> 1) What are the factors that give the benefic and malefic

> roles to planets. Is it the ownership of houses/ or is it

> natural nature/ or is it placement in friend/own house etc.

> I have a Taurus lagana with Jupiter in 10th house. Moon

> is in the first house. Now Jupiter is vargottama and also

> retrograde. It receives no aspects. So will Jupiter be

> good for me?

>

> 2) is there a way to give a planet's nature a mathematical number

> something like: this planet will be X% good and Y% bad.

> Based on various factors.

>

> 3) I have installed the jagannatha hora lite software. And

> that shows me shadbala and ishtha phal/kashtha phal of

> various planets. Now how does that affect the benefic/malefic

> nature of planets?

>

> 4) Does a functunal malefic necessarily give bad effects.

>

> I am confused because there are several factors and I dont

> know how to weigh one against the other.

>

> My date of birth is 5 Oct 1974, 21:25 hours, jalandhar India,

> I am going throuh Rahu's mahadasha since 1992. And that has been

> really GREAT for me. Rahu is in scorpio and that is supposed to

> be debilitated. But I am haviing a good time,

>

> So this confuses me even more.

>

> I need help to understand these things

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks a lot for your mail.

One more question how will a weak natural benefic,especially a

Jupiter behave.For example a debilitated Jupiter.Say Jupiter in

ascendant in Capricorn.Will it be less strict than a strong jupiter?

(I mean the Bhrashta capacity).He will be then the lord of 3rd and

12th houses then.Generally not 'good'(though this is relative)

houses.

 

respect

Pradeep

 

astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Yes you got the essence of the matter. Jupiter will of course

damage the

> house in which he is posited. This is why Jupiter exalted in 5th

house

> denies progeny and in 7th gives dwibharya yoga unless other

mitigating

> circumstances obtain in the horoscope.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> Saturday, November 22, 2003 4:10 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Question about benefic/malefic

planets -

> Chandrashekhar ji

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Thanks again for making these fundamental points, though simple

but

> complex,very clear.

>

> So if a natural malefic Saturn is a functional benefic and

placed in

> its own house,it should be very strong and hence should give good

> reults to the house in which it is placed?

>

> Similarly if a natural benefic say jupiter ,but functional

malefic

> exalted in cancer and hence strong - how will it behave? good

> results while aspecting? Bad results(properties of owning

houses) to

> the house in which he is posited?.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

>

> dic-astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Kanwarpreet,

> > You will have to read more to understand this.However

understand

> that

> >

> > 1.Natural benefics have role in their aspects as do the

Malefics

> and precise

> > results of their house placement. However Functional benefic /

> malefics

> > results are to be viewed from the point of view of their

influence

> on the

> > house that they tenant. Jupiter being Vargottama and retrograde

> will be

> > powerful but the results will have to be seen as Lord of 11th

and

> 8th.His

> > inherent nature will also have to be taken into account

Benefics

> give

> > beneficial results more when strong as do even the Malefics.

Week

> malefic

> > has his malfeasance increased.

> >

> > 2 Ashtakavarga system is an attempt in the direction of giving

> values to

> > planet's strengths as also that of Bhava.

> >

> > 3. The balas indicate strengths of the planets. Malfeasance or

> beneficence

> > to be understood as at 1 above.

> >

> > 4. I am of the opinion that, Rahu should not be termed

functional

> malefic or

> > benefic as it is a Chayagraha, though some take it to be such.

He

> would give

> > results of the planets with whom he associates or whose house

he

> tenants.

> > When alone he gives results of Saturn. In your case being,

> presumably alone

> > in Kendra he is capable of giving rise to Rajyoga during his

> Dashas and

> > appropriate transit position. Add to this the fact that for

Taurus

> Lagna

> > Saturn is Yoga karaka and the results during his Dasha should

be

> clear.

> > Hope this helps.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> >

> > kanwarpreet_grewal [kanwarpreet_grewal]

> > Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:05 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Question about benefic/malefic

planets

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> > I have read some books on astrology but I am really

confused

> > about some points:

> >

> > 1) What are the factors that give the benefic and malefic

> > roles to planets. Is it the ownership of houses/ or is it

> > natural nature/ or is it placement in friend/own house

etc.

> > I have a Taurus lagana with Jupiter in 10th house. Moon

> > is in the first house. Now Jupiter is vargottama and also

> > retrograde. It receives no aspects. So will Jupiter be

> > good for me?

> >

> > 2) is there a way to give a planet's nature a mathematical

number

> > something like: this planet will be X% good and Y% bad.

> > Based on various factors.

> >

> > 3) I have installed the jagannatha hora lite software. And

> > that shows me shadbala and ishtha phal/kashtha phal of

> > various planets. Now how does that affect the

benefic/malefic

> > nature of planets?

> >

> > 4) Does a functunal malefic necessarily give bad effects.

> >

> > I am confused because there are several factors and I dont

> > know how to weigh one against the other.

> >

> > My date of birth is 5 Oct 1974, 21:25 hours, jalandhar

India,

> > I am going throuh Rahu's mahadasha since 1992. And that has

been

> > really GREAT for me. Rahu is in scorpio and that is supposed

to

> > be debilitated. But I am haviing a good time,

> >

> > So this confuses me even more.

> >

> > I need help to understand these things

> >

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Dear Pradeep,

Weak planet's malfeasance increases, whether benefic or malefic, so you can

understand what will happen. In addition the aspect would also provide lesser

protection, subject to no Neecha Bhanga occurring.

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep

[vijayadas_pradeep ]Sunday, November 23, 2003 5:00 PMTo:

vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Question about

benefic/malefic planets - Chandrashekhar jiDear Chandrashekhar jiThanks a lot

for your mail.One more question how will a weak natural benefic,especially a

Jupiter behave.For example a debilitated Jupiter.Say Jupiter in ascendant in

Capricorn.Will it be less strict than a strong jupiter?(I mean the Bhrashta

capacity).He will be then the lord of 3rd and 12th houses then.Generally not

'good'(though this is relative) houses.respectPradeepastrology,

"Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Pradeep,> Yes you got the

essence of the matter. Jupiter will of course damage the> house in which he is

posited. This is why Jupiter exalted in 5th house> denies progeny and in 7th

gives dwibharya yoga unless other mitigating> circumstances obtain in the

horoscope.> Chandrashekhar.> >

vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]> Saturday, November

22, 2003 4:10 PM> vedic astrology> Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: Question about benefic/malefic planets -> Chandrashekhar

ji> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > Thanks again for making these fundamental

points, though simple but> complex,very clear.> > So if a natural malefic

Saturn is a functional benefic and placed in> its own house,it should be very

strong and hence should give good> reults to the house in which it is placed?>

> Similarly if a natural benefic say jupiter ,but functional malefic>

exalted in cancer and hence strong - how will it behave? good> results while

aspecting? Bad results(properties of owning houses) to> the house in which he

is posited?.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > dic-astrology,

"Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>> wrote:> > Dear Kanwarpreet,> > You

will have to read more to understand this.However understand> that> >> >

1.Natural benefics have role in their aspects as do the Malefics> and

precise> > results of their house placement. However Functional benefic />

malefics> > results are to be viewed from the point of view of their

influence> on the> > house that they tenant. Jupiter being Vargottama and

retrograde> will be> > powerful but the results will have to be seen as

Lord of 11th and> 8th.His> > inherent nature will also have to be taken

into account Benefics> give> > beneficial results more when strong as do

even the Malefics. Week> malefic> > has his malfeasance increased.> >>

> 2 Ashtakavarga system is an attempt in the direction of giving> values to>

> planet's strengths as also that of Bhava.> >> > 3. The balas indicate

strengths of the planets. Malfeasance or> beneficence> > to be understood

as at 1 above.> >> > 4. I am of the opinion that, Rahu should not be termed

functional> malefic or> > benefic as it is a Chayagraha, though some take it

to be such. He> would give> > results of the planets with whom he associates

or whose house he> tenants.> > When alone he gives results of Saturn. In

your case being,> presumably alone> > in Kendra he is capable of giving

rise to Rajyoga during his> Dashas and> > appropriate transit position. Add

to this the fact that for Taurus> Lagna> > Saturn is Yoga karaka and the

results during his Dasha should be> clear.> > Hope this helps.> >

Chandrashekhar.> >> > > >

kanwarpreet_grewal [kanwarpreet_grewal]> > Thursday,

November 20, 2003 4:05 PM> > vedic astrology> >

[vedic astrology] Question about benefic/malefic planets> >> >>

>> > Hi,> > I have read some books on astrology but I am really

confused> > about some points:> >> > 1) What are the factors that

give the benefic and malefic> > roles to planets. Is it the ownership of

houses/ or is it> > natural nature/ or is it placement in friend/own

house etc.> > I have a Taurus lagana with Jupiter in 10th house. Moon>

> is in the first house. Now Jupiter is vargottama and also> >

retrograde. It receives no aspects. So will Jupiter be> > good for me?>

>> > 2) is there a way to give a planet's nature a mathematical number> >

something like: this planet will be X% good and Y% bad.> > Based on

various factors.> >> > 3) I have installed the jagannatha hora lite

software. And> > that shows me shadbala and ishtha phal/kashtha phal

of> > various planets. Now how does that affect the benefic/malefic> >

nature of planets?> >> > 4) Does a functunal malefic necessarily give

bad effects.> >> > I am confused because there are several factors and

I dont> > know how to weigh one against the other.> >> > My date

of birth is 5 Oct 1974, 21:25 hours, jalandhar India,> > I am going throuh

Rahu's mahadasha since 1992. And that has been> > really GREAT for me. Rahu

is in scorpio and that is supposed to> > be debilitated. But I am haviing a

good time,> >> > So this confuses me even more.> >> > I need

help to understand these things> >> >> >> >> >> >

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SIrs,

 

I have been following this interesting discussion.

Let me summarize what I have understood. Please correct me

whereever I am wrong. Also answer some questions that I have:

 

1) In yogas, aspects, what is seen is the natural benefic/malefic

nature of a planet.

 

2) A functional benefic will be bad for ths house it is in.

 

3) A strong planet will produce good effects if a befefic( any)

and its bad effects will decrease if it is a melefic.

 

4) In the dasha of a planet we should see its functional

nature. Is that true?

 

5) A strong functional malefic will protect the houses that it

owns but will destroy the house which it occupies.

 

6) In the dasha of a strong functional malefic it will give

good results related to the houses that it owns, bad effects

related to the houses that it resides in. And good/bad effects

related to the houses that it aspects depending on whether it

is a natural benefic/malefic.

 

7) If a strong functional malefic is a natural benefic and causes

a benefic yoga then it becomes a yogakaraka and will give good

results.

 

Please check if I have understood the above properly.

 

kanwar

 

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Weak planet's malfeasance increases, whether benefic or malefic, so

you can

> understand what will happen. In addition the aspect would also

provide

> lesser protection, subject to no Neecha Bhanga occurring.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> Sunday, November 23, 2003 5:00 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Question about benefic/malefic

planets -

> Chandrashekhar ji

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Thanks a lot for your mail.

> One more question how will a weak natural benefic,especially a

> Jupiter behave.For example a debilitated Jupiter.Say Jupiter in

> ascendant in Capricorn.Will it be less strict than a strong

jupiter?

> (I mean the Bhrashta capacity).He will be then the lord of 3rd and

> 12th houses then.Generally not 'good'(though this is relative)

> houses.

>

> respect

> Pradeep

>

> astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Yes you got the essence of the matter. Jupiter will of course

> damage the

> > house in which he is posited. This is why Jupiter exalted in 5th

> house

> > denies progeny and in 7th gives dwibharya yoga unless other

> mitigating

> > circumstances obtain in the horoscope.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> > Saturday, November 22, 2003 4:10 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about benefic/malefic

> planets -

> > Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks again for making these fundamental points, though

simple

> but

> > complex,very clear.

> >

> > So if a natural malefic Saturn is a functional benefic and

> placed in

> > its own house,it should be very strong and hence should give

good

> > reults to the house in which it is placed?

> >

> > Similarly if a natural benefic say jupiter ,but functional

> malefic

> > exalted in cancer and hence strong - how will it behave? good

> > results while aspecting? Bad results(properties of owning

> houses) to

> > the house in which he is posited?.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > dic-astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> <boxdel>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Kanwarpreet,

> > > You will have to read more to understand this.However

> understand

> > that

> > >

> > > 1.Natural benefics have role in their aspects as do the

> Malefics

> > and precise

> > > results of their house placement. However Functional

benefic /

> > malefics

> > > results are to be viewed from the point of view of their

> influence

> > on the

> > > house that they tenant. Jupiter being Vargottama and

retrograde

> > will be

> > > powerful but the results will have to be seen as Lord of

11th

> and

> > 8th.His

> > > inherent nature will also have to be taken into account

> Benefics

> > give

> > > beneficial results more when strong as do even the Malefics.

> Week

> > malefic

> > > has his malfeasance increased.

> > >

> > > 2 Ashtakavarga system is an attempt in the direction of

giving

> > values to

> > > planet's strengths as also that of Bhava.

> > >

> > > 3. The balas indicate strengths of the planets. Malfeasance

or

> > beneficence

> > > to be understood as at 1 above.

> > >

> > > 4. I am of the opinion that, Rahu should not be termed

> functional

> > malefic or

> > > benefic as it is a Chayagraha, though some take it to be

such.

> He

> > would give

> > > results of the planets with whom he associates or whose

house

> he

> > tenants.

> > > When alone he gives results of Saturn. In your case being,

> > presumably alone

> > > in Kendra he is capable of giving rise to Rajyoga during his

> > Dashas and

> > > appropriate transit position. Add to this the fact that for

> Taurus

> > Lagna

> > > Saturn is Yoga karaka and the results during his Dasha

should

> be

> > clear.

> > > Hope this helps.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > > kanwarpreet_grewal [kanwarpreet_grewal]

> > > Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:05 PM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] Question about benefic/malefic

> planets

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I have read some books on astrology but I am really

> confused

> > > about some points:

> > >

> > > 1) What are the factors that give the benefic and malefic

> > > roles to planets. Is it the ownership of houses/ or is

it

> > > natural nature/ or is it placement in friend/own house

> etc.

> > > I have a Taurus lagana with Jupiter in 10th house. Moon

> > > is in the first house. Now Jupiter is vargottama and

also

> > > retrograde. It receives no aspects. So will Jupiter be

> > > good for me?

> > >

> > > 2) is there a way to give a planet's nature a mathematical

> number

> > > something like: this planet will be X% good and Y% bad.

> > > Based on various factors.

> > >

> > > 3) I have installed the jagannatha hora lite software. And

> > > that shows me shadbala and ishtha phal/kashtha phal of

> > > various planets. Now how does that affect the

> benefic/malefic

> > > nature of planets?

> > >

> > > 4) Does a functunal malefic necessarily give bad effects.

> > >

> > > I am confused because there are several factors and I

dont

> > > know how to weigh one against the other.

> > >

> > > My date of birth is 5 Oct 1974, 21:25 hours, jalandhar

> India,

> > > I am going throuh Rahu's mahadasha since 1992. And that

has

> been

> > > really GREAT for me. Rahu is in scorpio and that is

supposed

> to

> > > be debilitated. But I am haviing a good time,

> > >

> > > So this confuses me even more.

> > >

> > > I need help to understand these things

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks again.This is new for me.I was thinking if a malefic planet

is weak it may be causing less harm.

 

Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> Weak planet's malfeasance increases, whether benefic or malefic,

so you can

> understand what will happen. In addition the aspect would also

provide

> lesser protection, subject to no Neecha Bhanga occurring.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> Sunday, November 23, 2003 5:00 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Question about benefic/malefic

planets -

> Chandrashekhar ji

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Thanks a lot for your mail.

> One more question how will a weak natural benefic,especially a

> Jupiter behave.For example a debilitated Jupiter.Say Jupiter in

> ascendant in Capricorn.Will it be less strict than a strong

jupiter?

> (I mean the Bhrashta capacity).He will be then the lord of 3rd

and

> 12th houses then.Generally not 'good'(though this is relative)

> houses.

>

> respect

> Pradeep

>

> astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Yes you got the essence of the matter. Jupiter will of course

> damage the

> > house in which he is posited. This is why Jupiter exalted in

5th

> house

> > denies progeny and in 7th gives dwibharya yoga unless other

> mitigating

> > circumstances obtain in the horoscope.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> > Saturday, November 22, 2003 4:10 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Question about benefic/malefic

> planets -

> > Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks again for making these fundamental points, though

simple

> but

> > complex,very clear.

> >

> > So if a natural malefic Saturn is a functional benefic and

> placed in

> > its own house,it should be very strong and hence should give

good

> > reults to the house in which it is placed?

> >

> > Similarly if a natural benefic say jupiter ,but functional

> malefic

> > exalted in cancer and hence strong - how will it behave?

good

> > results while aspecting? Bad results(properties of owning

> houses) to

> > the house in which he is posited?.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > dic-astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> <boxdel>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Kanwarpreet,

> > > You will have to read more to understand this.However

> understand

> > that

> > >

> > > 1.Natural benefics have role in their aspects as do the

> Malefics

> > and precise

> > > results of their house placement. However Functional

benefic /

> > malefics

> > > results are to be viewed from the point of view of their

> influence

> > on the

> > > house that they tenant. Jupiter being Vargottama and

retrograde

> > will be

> > > powerful but the results will have to be seen as Lord of

11th

> and

> > 8th.His

> > > inherent nature will also have to be taken into account

> Benefics

> > give

> > > beneficial results more when strong as do even the

Malefics.

> Week

> > malefic

> > > has his malfeasance increased.

> > >

> > > 2 Ashtakavarga system is an attempt in the direction of

giving

> > values to

> > > planet's strengths as also that of Bhava.

> > >

> > > 3. The balas indicate strengths of the planets.

Malfeasance or

> > beneficence

> > > to be understood as at 1 above.

> > >

> > > 4. I am of the opinion that, Rahu should not be termed

> functional

> > malefic or

> > > benefic as it is a Chayagraha, though some take it to be

such.

> He

> > would give

> > > results of the planets with whom he associates or whose

house

> he

> > tenants.

> > > When alone he gives results of Saturn. In your case being,

> > presumably alone

> > > in Kendra he is capable of giving rise to Rajyoga during

his

> > Dashas and

> > > appropriate transit position. Add to this the fact that for

> Taurus

> > Lagna

> > > Saturn is Yoga karaka and the results during his Dasha

should

> be

> > clear.

> > > Hope this helps.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > > kanwarpreet_grewal [kanwarpreet_grewal]

> > > Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:05 PM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] Question about benefic/malefic

> planets

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I have read some books on astrology but I am really

> confused

> > > about some points:

> > >

> > > 1) What are the factors that give the benefic and malefic

> > > roles to planets. Is it the ownership of houses/ or

is it

> > > natural nature/ or is it placement in friend/own house

> etc.

> > > I have a Taurus lagana with Jupiter in 10th house.

Moon

> > > is in the first house. Now Jupiter is vargottama and

also

> > > retrograde. It receives no aspects. So will Jupiter be

> > > good for me?

> > >

> > > 2) is there a way to give a planet's nature a

mathematical

> number

> > > something like: this planet will be X% good and Y%

bad.

> > > Based on various factors.

> > >

> > > 3) I have installed the jagannatha hora lite software.

And

> > > that shows me shadbala and ishtha phal/kashtha phal

of

> > > various planets. Now how does that affect the

> benefic/malefic

> > > nature of planets?

> > >

> > > 4) Does a functunal malefic necessarily give bad effects.

> > >

> > > I am confused because there are several factors and I

dont

> > > know how to weigh one against the other.

> > >

> > > My date of birth is 5 Oct 1974, 21:25 hours,

jalandhar

> India,

> > > I am going throuh Rahu's mahadasha since 1992. And that

has

> been

> > > really GREAT for me. Rahu is in scorpio and that is

supposed

> to

> > > be debilitated. But I am haviing a good time,

> > >

> > > So this confuses me even more.

> > >

> > > I need help to understand these things

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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