Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Dear Sir, May I add?.What Mr.Mukul has said is quite right.Here Jupiter is said to be the gajam and Moon the kesari.gajam and kesari are bitter enbemies bur their combination is said to lead to yogam?.My experience has revealed that Moon is the mano karaka and jupiter who is a benefic makes Moon to be auspicious.The native who has Gajakesari yoga sooner or later developes a propensity to be kind and sympathetic to all those who may be helpless and suffering.This may be of some useto you. With pranams to Gurus. Regards, Jagannathan. --- mag <mukul.agarwal wrote: > You cant reach a conclusion just depending on the > Gajakesari yoga. A > lot of other things have to be considered. > - Position of Jupiter in Navmansh > - Planets aspecting jupiter > - Nakshatra lord for Jupiter and its position in > your chart > Also according to some text/observations a retrogade > planet acts like > a debilitated planet and hence gives bad results. > > regards > -Mukul > > > vedic astrology, Arun > Kalyanaraman > <asgoodasitgets75> wrote: > > Dear sdj254, > > > > For Libra Lagna Jupiter is lord of 3rd and 6th, so > is malefic. > Although there is a GajaKesari yogam it is not > strong and the sub > dasha of Jupiter will not be so good. > > > > This is my humble opinion and I want to state that > i am just a > student. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Arun > > > > sdj25455 <sdj254@h...> wrote: > > Dear All: > > I am writing to clarify the effects of > Gaj-kesari Yoga. My Mo-Ju > > started in March of 2003. My natal moon and > Jupiter (retrograde) > are > > in Leo in the same house that Jupiter is currently > transiting. My > > lagna is Libra. Within two days of the Mo-Ju > period I lost my > father. > > Within the next two months my wife relocated to > another city for > job. > > Two months later I lost my job, house and > literally everything > else. > > I have yet to see any positive effect of the > Gaj-kesari yoga. Could > > someone clarify this for me? Is there a solution > or an end in sight? > > > > My details are > > DOB 12th March 1968, Bombay, India. Time is > 10.55pm. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > Your use of is subject to > > > ===== Jagannathan . ______________________ India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Gaja Kesari and any yoga giving planets at the first place should not be in retrograde in nature, except retro debilitated planets. Another thing is the Leo is the 11th house for the Libra ascendants!!! Can it be against the native? Not to this much as the native says in his mail. Is it transit that makes the trouble? Yes to certain extent and not to this extent as the native suffers or feels. Also we have to see few more things. by transit Jupiter is at the first house with respect to Moon and also the Jupiter moved to the 11th house (bhadaka Sthana) and finally the Jupiter returns (means Jupiter by transit conjuncts the natal Moon). Finally and very very importantly, Jupiter is placed in the star of Ketu and also the Moon is with the star of Ketu. Always we have to remeber any planet with the star of Ketu cannot yield good results. Since both the planets are in the stars of Ketu the native suffers. Remedy: The Native should pray and do puja to the Lord Ganesha and if possible meet a saintly person to get better results. Sri Ganapatheya namaha. Also the native can chant the Guru Mantras. Yours sincerely A. Ramani P.S: comments are very much welcome and we can discuss and find out more remedies. kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sir,May I add?.What Mr.Mukul has said is quite right.HereJupiter is said to be the gajam and Moon thekesari.gajam and kesari are bitter enbemies bur theircombination is said to lead to yogam?.My experience has revealed that Moon is the mano karaka and jupiterwho is a benefic makes Moon to be auspicious.Thenative who has Gajakesari yoga sooner or laterdevelopes a propensity to be kind and sympathetic toall those who may be helpless and suffering.This maybe of some useto you.With pranams to Gurus.Regards,Jagannathan. --- mag <mukul.agarwal (AT) efi (DOT) com> wrote: > You cantreach a conclusion just depending on the> Gajakesari yoga. A > lot of other things have to be considered.> - Position of Jupiter in Navmansh> - Planets aspecting jupiter> - Nakshatra lord for Jupiter and its position in> your chart> Also according to some text/observations a retrogade> planet acts like > a debilitated planet and hence gives bad results. > > regards> -Mukul > > > --- In vedic astrology, Arun> Kalyanaraman > <asgoodasitgets75> wrote:> > Dear sdj254,> > > > For Libra Lagna Jupiter is lord of 3rd and 6th, so> is malefic. > Although there is a GajaKesari yogam it is not> strong and the sub > dasha of Jupiter will not be so good.> > > > This is my humble opinion and I want to state that> i am just a > student. > > > > > > Best regards,> > Arun > > > > sdj25455 <sdj254@h...> wrote:> > Dear All:> > I am writing to clarify the effects of> Gaj-kesari Yoga. My Mo-Ju > > started in March of 2003. My natal moon and> Jupiter (retrograde) > are > > in Leo in the same house that Jupiter is currently> transiting. My > > lagna is Libra. Within two days of the Mo-Ju> period I lost my > father. > > Within the next two months my wife relocated to> another city for > job. > > Two months later I lost my job, house and> literally everything > else. > > I have yet to see any positive effect of the> Gaj-kesari yoga. Could > > someone clarify this for me? Is there a solution> or an end in sight?> > > > My details are> > DOB 12th March 1968, Bombay, India. Time is> 10.55pm.> > > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now> > > > ------------------------ Sponsor> > Archives:> vedic astrology> > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> || > > Your use of is subject to> > > =====Jagannathan ..______________________ India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones.Go to http://in.mobile.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 In general the planets in the stars of Ketu act unusual. Here in the given case study the native has very powerful Gaja Kesari yoga but it did not work for him that is the case. We know that the Ketu is the planet that has the energy which is different from the rest of the planets and towards not the materialistic life and hence we cannot expect the results according to the material life. In the given case both Moon and Jupiter are in the stars of Ketu. But if the Ketu is powerful then the results may be different. In the given case Ketu is aspected by Mars, Saturn and Rahu in the rasi and in the Navamsa it is again aspected by Mars and Rahu. I see the planets are in the stars of Ketu is the only factor that is acting much along with the Bhadakastana. Moreover both the planets are in the same nakshatra here. Any two planets in the same rasi with the same Nakshatra can give the negative results in their dasa and antar dasa as summarised by the native in the given case and that too be viewed in this case. I would like to say what we are dealing with is an analytical science. So we have to analyse and come to conclusion. I am wishing to say the native to pray and do puja for Lord Ganesha and see the changes as a request. I would like to thank the other person who discussed of course in a harsh fashion. Let us see how further the discussions go. More discussions are welcome!!!. Yours sincerely A. Ramani. vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear Ramani JiMoola trikona for Jupiter in Dhanus falls in Moola Nakshathra,ruled by Ketu.So do you think it is bad for jupiter to be there?Is this a standard rule or are there any exceptions.Because one tends to think that strength of a planet in the descending order is Deeptha,Mulatrikona,Swakshethra.Kindly elaborate.respectPradeep--- In vedic astrology, Ramani Alwar <aramani_1969> wrote:> Hello > Gaja Kesari and any yoga giving planets at the first place should not be in retrograde in nature, except retro debilitated planets.> Another thing is the Leo is the 11th house for the Libra ascendants!!! Can it be against the native? Not to this much as the native says in his mail. > Is it transit that makes the trouble? Yes to certain extent and not to this extent as the native suffers or feels.> Also we have to see few more things. by transit Jupiter is at the first house with respect to Moon and also the Jupiter moved to the 11th house (bhadaka Sthana) and finally the Jupiter returns (means Jupiter by transit conjuncts the natal Moon).> Finally and very very importantly, Jupiter is placed in the star of Ketu and also the Moon is with the star of Ketu. Always we have to remeber any planet with the star of Ketu cannot yield good results. Since both the planets are in the stars of Ketu the native suffers. > Remedy: The Native should pray and do puja to the Lord Ganesha and if possible meet a saintly person to get better results. Sri Ganapatheya namaha. > Also the native can chant the Guru Mantras. > Yours sincerely> A. Ramani> P.S: comments are very much welcome and we can discuss and find out more remedies. > > kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:> Dear Sir,> May I add?.What Mr.Mukul has said is quite right.Here> Jupiter is said to be the gajam and Moon the> kesari.gajam and kesari are bitter enbemies bur their> combination is said to lead to yogam?.My experience > has revealed that Moon is the mano karaka and jupiter> who is a benefic makes Moon to be auspicious.The> native who has Gajakesari yoga sooner or later> developes a propensity to be kind and sympathetic to> all those who may be helpless and suffering.This may> be of some useto you.> With pranams to Gurus.> Regards,> Jagannathan. > > > > > > --- mag <mukul.agarwal@e...> wrote: > You cant> reach a conclusion just depending on the> > Gajakesari yoga. A > > lot of other things have to be considered.> > - Position of Jupiter in Navmansh> > - Planets aspecting jupiter> > - Nakshatra lord for Jupiter and its position in> > your chart> > Also according to some text/observations a retrogade> > planet acts like > > a debilitated planet and hence gives bad results. > > > > regards> > -Mukul > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, Arun> > Kalyanaraman > > <asgoodasitgets75> wrote:> > > Dear sdj254,> > > > > > For Libra Lagna Jupiter is lord of 3rd and 6th, so> > is malefic. > > Although there is a GajaKesari yogam it is not> > strong and the sub > > dasha of Jupiter will not be so good.> > > > > > This is my humble opinion and I want to state that> > i am just a > > student. > > > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > Arun > > > > > > sdj25455 <sdj254@h...> wrote:> > > Dear All:> > > I am writing to clarify the effects of> > Gaj-kesari Yoga. My Mo-Ju > > > started in March of 2003. My natal moon and> > Jupiter (retrograde) > > are > > > in Leo in the same house that Jupiter is currently> > transiting. My > > > lagna is Libra. Within two days of the Mo-Ju> > period I lost my > > father. > > > Within the next two months my wife relocated to> > another city for > > job. > > > Two months later I lost my job, house and> > literally everything > > else. > > > I have yet to see any positive effect of the> > Gaj-kesari yoga. Could > > > someone clarify this for me? Is there a solution> > or an end in sight?> > > > > > My details are> > > DOB 12th March 1968, Bombay, India. Time is> > 10.55pm.> > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> >> vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now> > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor> > > > Archives:> > vedic astrology> > > > Group info:> >> vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> > || > > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > > =====> > > > Jagannathan .> > > ______________________> India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones.> Go to http://in.mobile.> > Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 May be u are a genius.Why r u showing so much anger in every reply??I dont understand!!!!. Raji quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote: > Finally and very very importantly, Jupiter is placed in the star of Ketu and also the Moon is with the star of Ketu. Always we have to remeber any planet with the star of Ketu cannot yield good results. Since both the planets are in the stars of Ketu the native suffers. This is nonsense; I have never heard of such a rule. Consider the following chart: Jupiter in Sagittarius 7 deg 58' and Venus in Leo 10 deg 31'. Both planets are in the star of Ketu and ascendant is Cancer. The Jupiter-Venus period was very lucky and productive for the native. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 First of all there is a request to you, please under sign the message while posting. You have mentioned there is case against the arguement and I cannot thrrough light on the case untill otherwise we see the whole chart. I reveal my identity and through light on the matter. Fine, thanks for your discussion jee, Here in the given case both the planets were in the same rasi and with the nakshatra of Ketu. Moreover the given case Moon has the stars of Ketu (both are inimical means Moon and Ketu are inimical). In general the planets in the stars of Ketu do not offer good results in favour of materialistic reuslts. Of course there is an exception I have found and I have read in the magazines of astrology and in practical astrology as written by astrologers but those cases are different. In the given both the planets are in the same rasi and in the same nakshatra also which too give the negative results. Of course I can atleast ten to twelve points in favour of the arguement I have given. 1. Moon is in the Bhadka sthana. 2. Jupiter has returned to the natal Jupiter by transit 3. Jupiter by transit has the aspect of Saturn 4. Natal Moon too has the aspect of Transiting Saturn 5. Jupiter is inimical to the Libra ascendant and has the adhipatya of the 3rd and 6th houses 6. Jupiter and Moon are in the Same Rasi 7. Jupiter and Moon are in the same Nakshatra 8. Hence those Jupiter and Moon are in the same rasi and in the nakshatra of Ketu the strength of Ketu is to be analysed 9. While analysing the strength of Ketu it is aspected by Mars like malefic planets both in the rasi and Navamsa. I will debate the other points if you wish. Thanks for your discussion. I request you also to through your arguement and give the meaning then please prove your points. Of course we should discuss and then only we can come to conclusions from various angles. Please under sign the mails with your name atleast in the proceeding mails. Yours sincerely A. Ramani.quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 > wrote: > Finally and very very importantly, Jupiter is placed in the star of Ketu and also the Moon is with the star of Ketu. Always we have to remeber any planet with the star of Ketu cannot yield good results. Since both the planets are in the stars of Ketu the native suffers. This is nonsense; I have never heard of such a rule. Consider the following chart: Jupiter in Sagittarius 7 deg 58' and Venus in Leo 10 deg 31'. Both planets are in the star of Ketu and ascendant is Cancer. The Jupiter-Venus period was very lucky and productive for the native. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 If something is a spade, I believe in calling it a spade. I dont see anything in my post which disparages the poster personally; if you cannot take criticism of your opinions you will not learn much.> Quietwolf, I think everyone has a right of opinion. We all are > students of astrology here. To say one way or the other should be > qualified by a reason. We cant just throw it out by calling it > nonsense. In this world for every case you will be able to provide > an example horoscope justifying any point.> This clearly explains the complex task of predictions. > In my humble opinion only certain yogas have the power to nullify all > other evils or good in a horoscope else we need to look at every > possible factor in judging a horoscope.And which yoga says placement in *any* star of Ketu is *very* bad? If the original poster was proficient enough to make up his own rules, he should also be willing to accept criticism.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 Dear Sir, The current periods are Moon dasa and Jupiter bhukthi.During Moons dasa planets yield their results according to their Adipathyas from the Moon sign.jupiter is then the 8th lord and Moon is the 12th lord.Both of them are situated in a malefic sign.Three malefics viz Saturn,Rahu and Mars are placed in the 8th house .Sun, a malefic aspects Jupiter and Moon.How then can Jupiter and Moon yield good results.?Moons pakshabalam would have expressed itself during Moons swabhukthi.Jupiter has undergone parivartanam with Sun and saturn?.So some amount of maleficence gets attached to Jupiter.Moons sub-sub period in the Jupiters bhukthi may yield some good result.I await your comments please. With pranams to Gurus. Regards, Jagannathan. --- R Shukla <info4shukla wrote: > Man you don't sound like a quietwolf ... laugh > > quietwolf1972 <quietwolf1972 wrote:If > something is a spade, I believe in calling it a > spade. I dont see > anything in my post which disparages the poster > personally; if you > cannot take criticism of your opinions you will not > learn much. > > > Quietwolf, I think everyone has a right of > opinion. We all are > > students of astrology here. To say one way or the > other should be > > qualified by a reason. We cant just throw it out > by calling it > > nonsense. In this world for every case you will > be able to provide > > an example horoscope justifying any point. > > This clearly explains the complex task of > predictions. > > > > > In my humble opinion only certain yogas have the > power to nullify > all > > other evils or good in a horoscope else we need to > look at every > > possible factor in judging a horoscope. > > And which yoga says placement in *any* star of Ketu > is *very* bad? If > the original poster was proficient enough to make up > his own rules, > he should also be willing to accept criticism. > > > Sponsor > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ===== Jagannathan . ______________________ India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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