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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Amaan Sood,

Makara Rasi is not in Gandantha Rasi.The only Gandantha poistions are between

the end and beginning of Jala and Agni Tattwa Rashis ie.,Meena Rasi end and

Mesha Rasi beginning,Karka Rasi end and Simha Rasi beginning and Vrischika Rasi

end and Dhanu Rasi beginning.

I have written an article about gandantha about 2 years back.If you can browse

VA group the archives you can go through that article.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Aman sood <amansr99 (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote:

RamdasjiI have seen that Gandatha Postion if Vargottam Like SANI 0degrees to 6

degrees 40 Minutesin Makar especially if the Planet is Yogkaraka gives good

results.regardsAamanOn Sat, 08 Nov 2003 Ramadas Rao wrote :>>` nmae

naray[ay,>om namo näräyaëäya|>Dear Jai,>So that means Gandantha position of

planets are really troublesome and one has to experience his/her past Karma

sins.>With Best Regards,>Ramadas Rao.>jai balagopal <jbalagop >

wrote:>Dear Ramadas Raoji ->>How are you doing? Pushkara navamsa/bhagas are not

found in any of these gandantha positions. Also from what i have seen, gandantha

positions are an unfortunate position for a planet to be in. With my very

limited knowledge, i have see charts where a planet was exalted in devalokamsa

(like sun in aries- 0deg, etc) and still doesn't help the native all that

much, because it is in

gandantha.>>Regards,>>- Jai>-> Ramadas Rao>To:

vedic astrology>Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:09

AM>Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi>>>>` nmae

naray[ay,>om namo näräyaëäya|>Dear Jai Balagopal,>May be this will be an

exception for Rasi Sandhi but what about Gandantha position of planets ? Do you

have any practical cases ? I am interested to go through such charts.>With Sri

Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,>Ramadas Rao.>jai balagopal <jbalagop >

wrote:>Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members ->>Although the

planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens to be in>the Pushkara

navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not give bad>results. Does

what I am saying sound

right?>>Thanks,>>- Jai>>-> "Jayashree"

<jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com>><vedic astrology>>Tuesday,

November 04, 2003 12:10 PM>[vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi

Sandhi>>>Dear Ramadas ji,>>Actually it is me who is thanking you for the

explanations :) and I>was reiterating your points so as to remember better

later. Me too,>having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it

is>Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I>was

looking for supporting factors to a major loss in the>divisionals, besides the

planet being in rasi sandhi alone.>>Best regards,>>Jayashree>>--- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>>wrote:> >> > `

nmae

naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree,> > Thanks for the

explanations.> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> >

Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,> >> > Again

very sorry to have been discussing over this loss with you,> > even though

seeking astrological explanations. As you said, it>really> > does look clear

after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between Mars>and> > ketu, aspected by Retro

Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus the> > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in

parivarthan for Mercury all seem to> > be the reason, and that since Jupiter

was in Rasi Sandhi, he was>not> > able to protect or act against these malefic

happenings... Or is it> > that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3

and also a> > functional malefic for

Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in the> > loss rather than protect against

it? Anyways, due to parivarthana>as> > you had stated, Mars the natural

significator for younger co-borns>as> > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is

conjoining Venus, the Gnathi->Karaka> > as well that lord of 6th house and A8,

and Jupiter rules 8th house>in> > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus

explains very much for> > causing this great loss.> >> > Thanks for the

explanation and once again, very sorry for your loss.> >> > Wishing you my best

regards,> >> > Jayashree> > vedic astrology, Ramadas

Rao><ramadasrao>> > wrote:> > >> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > om namo

näräyaëäya|> > > Dear Jayashree,> > > I agree with your

explanation.But you see my explanation in my> > previous mail.Budha is not

natural BK and he is only Chara BK and I> > dont think being Chara BK,he will

not do such a big evil to lose my> > younger brother.But he may do harm about

the health of younger co-> > born and that he did also.This sad incident

happened in Guru Dasa>and> > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according

to me this is the> > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to

each> > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd>house> >

is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his> > own

house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja comes>to> > Vrischika

rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka

for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th lord>for> > D-3 chart is with Guru and

as a result of this Guru's aspect also>did> > not help my brother to survive.> >

> I hope this helps you.> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas

Rao.> > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas

Rao,> > >> > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question being>

> > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to>mention> > >

with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very> > sorry> > > to

hear about your loss.> > >> > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the

Bhrartu Karak BK> > being> > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako

bhava nashya,> > especially> > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic

lord of 3 and 12> > > Jupiter

and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though> > > lagnesh). Since he

(Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3,>he> > > should give good results

with respect to all other signification>of> > > 3rd house such as efforts,

communications, courage, especially> > since> > > he is conjoining Mercury the

9th lord?> > >> > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa

and saw> > that> > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in

Capricorn 7> > from> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed

in Aries>and> > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest

that> > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in>Rasi)> >

> gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for> > other> >

> significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good> > > results?>

> >> > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different> > >

ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-> > banga> > >

due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in> > Aquarius)...Doesn't> > >

this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashaya>due> > > to

cancellation of debility?> > >> > > Kindly consider these as those being

presented for your view as a> > > learner.> > >> > > With best regards,> > >> >

> Jayashree> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao> >

<ramadasrao>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo

näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,> > > > The planets which are in Rasi

Sandhi eventhough they are> > vargothama> > > fail to protect the house

characters owned by them.In my chart>Guru> > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in

his own house of Meena Rasi but in> > Rasi> > > Sandhi and he could not save my

younger brother.I lost him when>he> > > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont

have any brothers or>sisters.> > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > With Sri

Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > >> > > > H S Viswanadham

<vishwanatham@r...> wrote:> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > >> > > > Dear Gurus &

other learned members,> > > >> > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to

destroy

the houses owned> > by> > > them.> > > >> > > > Are there any exceptions to

this? Like, planets which are>placed> > in> > > Vargottama amsa?> > > >> > > >

Could any one please clarify.> > > >> > > > With much regards> > > >

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Dear Ramdasji,

You are absolutely right. As I understand Gandanta is colloquial form of

Khandaanta- end of a section(Khanda). Lot of posts are going on about

various(?) Gandantas and it was high time someone gave factual position. I

think Rasi sandhis etc. are being confused with Gandaanta.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent:

Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:02 PMvedic astrologySubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] GANDATHA

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Amaan Sood,

Makara Rasi is not in Gandantha Rasi.The only Gandantha poistions are between

the end and beginning of Jala and Agni Tattwa Rashis ie.,Meena Rasi end and

Mesha Rasi beginning,Karka Rasi end and Simha Rasi beginning and Vrischika Rasi

end and Dhanu Rasi beginning.

I have written an article about gandantha about 2 years back.If you can browse

VA group the archives you can go through that article.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Aman sood <amansr99 (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote:

RamdasjiI have seen that Gandatha Postion if Vargottam Like SANI 0degrees to 6

degrees 40 Minutesin Makar especially if the Planet is Yogkaraka gives good

results.regardsAamanOn Sat, 08 Nov 2003 Ramadas Rao wrote :>>` nmae

naray[ay,>om namo näräyaëäya|>Dear Jai,>So that means Gandantha position of

planets are really troublesome and one has to experience his/her past Karma

sins.>With Best Regards,>Ramadas Rao.>jai balagopal <jbalagop >

wrote:>Dear Ramadas Raoji ->>How are you doing? Pushkara navamsa/bhagas are not

found in any of these gandantha positions. Also from what i have seen, gandantha

positions are an unfortunate position for a planet to be in. With my very

limited knowledge, i have see charts where a planet was exalted in devalokamsa

(like sun in aries- 0deg, etc) and still doesn't help the native all that

much, because it is in gandantha.>>Regards,>>- Jai>----- Original Message

-----> Ramadas Rao>vedic astrology>Wednesday,

November 05, 2003 9:09 AM>Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi

Sandhi>>>>` nmae naray[ay,>om namo näräyaëäya|>Dear Jai Balagopal,>May be this

will be an exception for Rasi Sandhi but what about Gandantha position of

planets ? Do you have any practical cases ? I am interested to go through such

charts.>With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,>Ramadas Rao.>jai balagopal

<jbalagop > wrote:>Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned

members ->>Although the planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens

to be in>the Pushkara navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not

give bad>results. Does what I am saying sound right?>>Thanks,>>- Jai>>-----

Original Message -----> "Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com>>To:

<vedic astrology>>Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10

PM>[vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi>>>Dear Ramadas

ji,>>Actually it is me who is thanking you for the explanations :) and I>was

reiterating your points so as to remember better later. Me too,>having either

Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it is>Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if

it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I>was looking for supporting factors to a

major loss in the>divisionals, besides the planet being in rasi sandhi

alone.>>Best regards,>>Jayashree>>vedic astrology,

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>>wrote:> >> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo

näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree,> > Thanks for the explanations.> > With Sri Hari

Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:>

> Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,> >> > Again very sorry to have been discussing over

this loss with you,> > even though seeking astrological explanations. As you

said, it>really> > does look clear after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between

Mars>and> > ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus the> >

Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for Mercury all seem to> > be the

reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi Sandhi, he was>not> > able to

protect or act against these malefic happenings... Or is it> > that Jupiter

once again became the 8th lord in D-3 and also a> > functional malefic for

Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in the> > loss rather than protect

against it? Anyways, due to parivarthana>as> > you had stated, Mars the natural

significator for younger co-borns>as> > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is

conjoining Venus, the Gnathi->Karaka> > as well that lord of 6th house and A8,

and Jupiter rules 8th house>in> > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus

explains very much for> > causing this great loss.> >> > Thanks for the

explanation and once again, very sorry for your loss.> >> > Wishing you my best

regards,> >> > Jayashree> > vedic astrology, Ramadas

Rao><ramadasrao>> > wrote:> > >> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > om namo

näräyaëäya|> > > Dear Jayashree,> > > I agree with your explanation.But you see

my explanation in my> > previous mail.Budha is not natural BK and he is only

Chara BK and I> > dont think being Chara BK,he will not do such a big evil to

lose my> > younger brother.But he may do harm about the health of younger co->

> born and that he did also.This sad incident happened in Guru Dasa>and> >

Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is the> > reason

for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each> > other.Also in D-3

chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd>house> > is hemmed between Kuja

and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his> > own house.Also Budha and Kuja

does a parivartana and so Kuja comes>to> > Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru

is there aspecting my 3rd> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th

and 12th lord>for> > D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's

aspect also>did> > not help my brother to survive.> > > I hope this helps

you.> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas Rao.> > > Jayashree

<jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,> > >> > >

Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question being> > >

inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to>mention> > > with

regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very> > sorry> > > to hear

about your loss.> > >> > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the

Bhrartu Karak BK> > being> > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako

bhava nashya,> > especially> > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic

lord of 3 and 12> > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn

(though> > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in

3,>he> > > should give good results with respect to all other signification>of>

> > 3rd house such as efforts, communications, courage, especially> > since> > >

he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?> > >> > > Since I was very interested, I

took a look at Dwadasamsa and saw> > that> > > there Mercury the BK is again

the 3rd lord placed in Capricorn 7> > from> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is

lord of 7 and 8 placed in Aries>and> > > aspects Mercury with his 10th

aspect... Doesn't this suggest that> > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and

aspected by Saturn (in>Rasi)> > > gives this poor result with respect to

younger sibling but for> > other> > > significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter

indeed gives very good> > > results?> > >> > > Also, since I'm learning

Jyotish, I also try with different> > > ayanamshas and according to Raman,

Mercury also undergoes neech-> > banga> > > due Venus's placement in Kendra to

Moon? (Moon in> > Aquarius)...Doesn't> > > this strengthen Mercury's ability to

cause Karako bhava nashaya>due> > > to cancellation of debility?> > >> > >

Kindly consider these as those being presented for your view as a> > >

learner.> > >> > > With best regards,> > >> > > Jayashree> > > --- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao> > <ramadasrao>> > > wrote:>

> > >> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear

Vishwanadham Ji,> > > > The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they

are> > vargothama> > > fail to protect the house characters owned by them.In my

chart>Guru> > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi but

in> > Rasi> > > Sandhi and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him

when>he> > > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers

or>sisters.> > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama

Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > >> > > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...>

wrote:> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > >> > > > Dear Gurus & other learned

members,> > > >> > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the

houses owned> > by> > > them.> > > >> > > > Are there any exceptions to this?

Like, planets which are>placed> > in> > > Vargottama amsa?> > > >> > > > Could

any one please clarify.> > > >> > > > With much regards> > > > viswanadham> > >

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om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

Thanks for the mail.The main theory in Gandantha position is that Agni and Jala

are enemic to each other and it is simple to understand.3 Deg.20 Min.on either

side of these Rashis are Gandantha positions.

I hope now the readers will understand better the theory of Gandantha.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Ramdasji,

You are absolutely right. As I understand Gandanta is colloquial form of

Khandaanta- end of a section(Khanda). Lot of posts are going on about

various(?) Gandantas and it was high time someone gave factual position. I

think Rasi sandhis etc. are being confused with Gandaanta.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent:

Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:02 PMvedic astrologySubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] GANDATHA

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|Dear Amaan Sood,

Makara Rasi is not in Gandantha Rasi.The only Gandantha poistions are between

the end and beginning of Jala and Agni Tattwa Rashis ie.,Meena Rasi end and

Mesha Rasi beginning,Karka Rasi end and Simha Rasi beginning and Vrischika Rasi

end and Dhanu Rasi beginning.

I have written an article about gandantha about 2 years back.If you can browse

VA group the archives you can go through that article.

I hope this helps you.

With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Aman sood <amansr99 (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote:

RamdasjiI have seen that Gandatha Postion if Vargottam Like SANI 0degrees to 6

degrees 40 Minutesin Makar especially if the Planet is Yogkaraka gives good

results.regardsAamanOn Sat, 08 Nov 2003 Ramadas Rao wrote :>>` nmae

naray[ay,>om namo näräyaëäya|>Dear Jai,>So that means Gandantha position of

planets are really troublesome and one has to experience his/her past Karma

sins.>With Best Regards,>Ramadas Rao.>jai balagopal <jbalagop >

wrote:>Dear Ramadas Raoji ->>How are you doing? Pushkara navamsa/bhagas are not

found in any of these gandantha positions. Also from what i have seen, gandantha

positions are an unfortunate position for a planet to be in. With my very

limited knowledge, i have see charts where a planet was exalted in devalokamsa

(like sun in aries- 0deg, etc) and still doesn't help the native all that

much, because it is in

gandantha.>>Regards,>>- Jai>-> Ramadas Rao>To:

vedic astrology>Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:09

AM>Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi>>>>` nmae

naray[ay,>om namo näräyaëäya|>Dear Jai Balagopal,>May be this will be an

exception for Rasi Sandhi but what about Gandantha position of planets ? Do you

have any practical cases ? I am interested to go through such charts.>With Sri

Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,>Ramadas Rao.>jai balagopal <jbalagop >

wrote:>Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members ->>Although the

planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet happens to be in>the Pushkara

navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it usually does not give bad>results. Does

what I am saying sound

right?>>Thanks,>>- Jai>>-> "Jayashree"

<jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com>><vedic astrology>>Tuesday,

November 04, 2003 12:10 PM>[vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi

Sandhi>>>Dear Ramadas ji,>>Actually it is me who is thanking you for the

explanations :) and I>was reiterating your points so as to remember better

later. Me too,>having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it

is>Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way, I>was

looking for supporting factors to a major loss in the>divisionals, besides the

planet being in rasi sandhi alone.>>Best regards,>>Jayashree>>--- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>>wrote:> >> > `

nmae

naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree,> > Thanks for the

explanations.> > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> >

Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,> >> > Again

very sorry to have been discussing over this loss with you,> > even though

seeking astrological explanations. As you said, it>really> > does look clear

after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between Mars>and> > ketu, aspected by Retro

Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus the> > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in

parivarthan for Mercury all seem to> > be the reason, and that since Jupiter

was in Rasi Sandhi, he was>not> > able to protect or act against these malefic

happenings... Or is it> > that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3

and also a> > functional malefic for

Capricorn (rasi) that he participated in the> > loss rather than protect against

it? Anyways, due to parivarthana>as> > you had stated, Mars the natural

significator for younger co-borns>as> > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is

conjoining Venus, the Gnathi->Karaka> > as well that lord of 6th house and A8,

and Jupiter rules 8th house>in> > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus

explains very much for> > causing this great loss.> >> > Thanks for the

explanation and once again, very sorry for your loss.> >> > Wishing you my best

regards,> >> > Jayashree> > vedic astrology, Ramadas

Rao><ramadasrao>> > wrote:> > >> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > om namo

näräyaëäya|> > > Dear Jayashree,> > > I agree with your

explanation.But you see my explanation in my> > previous mail.Budha is not

natural BK and he is only Chara BK and I> > dont think being Chara BK,he will

not do such a big evil to lose my> > younger brother.But he may do harm about

the health of younger co-> > born and that he did also.This sad incident

happened in Guru Dasa>and> > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according

to me this is the> > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to

each> > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd>house> >

is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from his> > own

house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja comes>to> > Vrischika

rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd> > house,Kuja, the Badhaka

for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th lord>for> > D-3 chart is with Guru and

as a result of this Guru's aspect also>did> > not help my brother to survive.> >

> I hope this helps you.> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas

Rao.> > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas

Rao,> > >> > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question being>

> > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to>mention> > >

with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also very> > sorry> > > to

hear about your loss.> > >> > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the

Bhrartu Karak BK> > being> > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako

bhava nashya,> > especially> > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic

lord of 3 and 12> > > Jupiter

and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though> > > lagnesh). Since he

(Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord in 3,>he> > > should give good results

with respect to all other signification>of> > > 3rd house such as efforts,

communications, courage, especially> > since> > > he is conjoining Mercury the

9th lord?> > >> > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa

and saw> > that> > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in

Capricorn 7> > from> > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed

in Aries>and> > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest

that> > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in>Rasi)> >

> gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but for> > other> >

> significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very good> > > results?>

> >> > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different> > >

ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes neech-> > banga> > >

due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in> > Aquarius)...Doesn't> > >

this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava nashaya>due> > > to

cancellation of debility?> > >> > > Kindly consider these as those being

presented for your view as a> > > learner.> > >> > > With best regards,> > >> >

> Jayashree> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao> >

<ramadasrao>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo

näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,> > > > The planets which are in Rasi

Sandhi eventhough they are> > vargothama> > > fail to protect the house

characters owned by them.In my chart>Guru> > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in

his own house of Meena Rasi but in> > Rasi> > > Sandhi and he could not save my

younger brother.I lost him when>he> > > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont

have any brothers or>sisters.> > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > With Sri

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<vishwanatham@r...> wrote:> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > >> > > > Dear Gurus &

other learned members,> > > >> > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to

destroy

the houses owned> > by> > > them.> > > >> > > > Are there any exceptions to

this? Like, planets which are>placed> > in> > > Vargottama amsa?> > > >> > > >

Could any one please clarify.> > > >> > > > With much regards> > > >

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Dear Ramadas Ji,Visti Ji and Chandrashekar Ji

 

I couldnt find this article which you have mentioned.If it is

present in the same list i could search again.Kindly confirm.

Hope you have seen my mail exchange with Visti Ji regarding this

topic.

As per Visti ji's explanation i have calculated Lagna Gandanthas as

7.5 degress on each side of Fire and Water.

 

Also Visti ji has explained that (Rasi gandantha - I hope this is

what others call as Nakshathra Gandantha) is applicable only for

Moon and not other planets(though they may be in gandantha positions-

for eg Mars can be at the junction of fire and water).Also Visti Ji

has clarified that full padas(3.2deg) are approximations and Rasi

Gandanthas doesnt extend to full padas.

If all the Guru jis could confirm the facts it would be helpful in

building the basics.

 

Fire against Water was enough for understanding the concept.

 

Thanks &Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

> Thanks for the mail.The main theory in Gandantha position is that

Agni and Jala are enemic to each other and it is simple to

understand.3 Deg.20 Min.on either side of these Rashis are Gandantha

positions.

> I hope now the readers will understand better the theory of

Gandantha.

> With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

> Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Ramdasji,

> You are absolutely right. As I understand Gandanta is colloquial

form of Khandaanta- end of a section(Khanda). Lot of posts are going

on about various(?) Gandantas and it was high time someone gave

factual position. I think Rasi sandhis etc. are being confused with

Gandaanta.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]

> Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:02 PM

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] GANDATHA

>

>

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Amaan Sood,

> Makara Rasi is not in Gandantha Rasi.The only Gandantha poistions

are between the end and beginning of Jala and Agni Tattwa Rashis

ie.,Meena Rasi end and Mesha Rasi beginning,Karka Rasi end and Simha

Rasi beginning and Vrischika Rasi end and Dhanu Rasi beginning.

> I have written an article about gandantha about 2 years back.If

you can browse VA group the archives you can go through that article.

> I hope this helps you.

> With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

> Aman sood <amansr99@r...> wrote:

>

> Ramdasji

> I have seen that Gandatha Postion if Vargottam Like SANI 0degrees

to 6 degrees 40 Minutesin Makar especially if the Planet is

Yogkaraka gives good results.

> regards

> Aaman

>

> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 Ramadas Rao wrote :

> >

> >` nmae naray[ay,

> >om namo näräyaëäya|

> >Dear Jai,

> >So that means Gandantha position of planets are really

troublesome and one has to experience his/her past Karma sins.

> >With Best Regards,

> >Ramadas Rao.

> >jai balagopal <jbalagop> wrote:

> >Dear Ramadas Raoji -

> >

> >How are you doing? Pushkara navamsa/bhagas are not found in any

of these gandantha positions. Also from what i have seen, gandantha

positions are an unfortunate position for a planet to be in. With my

very limited knowledge, i have see charts where a planet was exalted

in devalokamsa (like sun in aries- 0deg, etc) and still doesn't

help the native all that much, because it is in gandantha.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >- Jai

> >-

> > Ramadas Rao

> >vedic astrology

> >Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:09 AM

> >Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi

> >

> >

> >

> >` nmae naray[ay,

> >om namo näräyaëäya|

> >Dear Jai Balagopal,

> >May be this will be an exception for Rasi Sandhi but what about

Gandantha position of planets ? Do you have any practical cases ? I

am interested to go through such charts.

> >With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> >Ramadas Rao.

> >jai balagopal <jbalagop> wrote:

> >Dear Ramadas Raoji, Jayashree and other learned members -

> >

> >Although the planet may be in rasi sandhi, if that planet

happens to be in

> >the Pushkara navamsa (or pushkara bhaga), then it usually does

not give bad

> >results. Does what I am saying sound right?

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >- Jai

> >

> >-

> > "Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi@m...>

> ><vedic astrology>

> >Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10 PM

> >[vedic astrology] Re: Planets in Rasi Sandhi

> >

> >

> >Dear Ramadas ji,

> >

> >Actually it is me who is thanking you for the explanations :) and

I

> >was reiterating your points so as to remember better later. Me

too,

> >having either Mercury (or) Venus in rasi sandhi (Mercury if it is

> >Raman Ayanamsha or Venus if it is Lahiri Ayanamsha), so in a way,

I

> >was looking for supporting factors to a major loss in the

> >divisionals, besides the planet being in rasi sandhi alone.

> >

> >Best regards,

> >

> >Jayashree

> >

> >vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao>

> >wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > Thanks for the explanations.

> > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Guruji Ramadas Rao,

> > >

> > > Again very sorry to have been discussing over this loss with

you,

> > > even though seeking astrological explanations. As you said, it

> >really

> > > does look clear after looking at D-3 that 3rd house between

Mars

> >and

> > > ketu, aspected by Retro Saturn, badhak for Taurus, and Venus

the

> > > Gnati Karaka conjoining Mars in parivarthan for Mercury all

seem to

> > > be the reason, and that since Jupiter was in Rasi Sandhi, he

was

> >not

> > > able to protect or act against these malefic happenings... Or

is it

> > > that Jupiter once again became the 8th lord in D-3 and also a

> > > functional malefic for Capricorn (rasi) that he participated

in the

> > > loss rather than protect against it? Anyways, due to

parivarthana

> >as

> > > you had stated, Mars the natural significator for younger co-

borns

> >as

> > > well as the lord of A-3 in D-3 is conjoining Venus, the Gnathi-

> >Karaka

> > > as well that lord of 6th house and A8, and Jupiter rules 8th

house

> >in

> > > D-3 aspecting 3rd house, so Jupiter/Venus explains very much

for

> > > causing this great loss.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the explanation and once again, very sorry for your

loss.

> > >

> > > Wishing you my best regards,

> > >

> > > Jayashree

> > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> ><ramadasrao>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > > I agree with your explanation.But you see my explanation in

my

> > > previous mail.Budha is not natural BK and he is only Chara BK

and I

> > > dont think being Chara BK,he will not do such a big evil to

lose my

> > > younger brother.But he may do harm about the health of younger

co-

> > > born and that he did also.This sad incident happened in Guru

Dasa

> >and

> > > Shukra's Antara.Shukra is Chara GK and according to me this is

the

> > > reason for my brother's death.Also both are in 2-12 to each

> > > other.Also in D-3 chart,3rd house is occupied by Mandi and 3rd

> >house

> > > is hemmed between Kuja and Ketu and aspected by Shani (V) from

his

> > > own house.Also Budha and Kuja does a parivartana and so Kuja

comes

> >to

> > > Vrischika rasi and eventhough Guru is there aspecting my 3rd

> > > house,Kuja, the Badhaka for my Rasi chart and 7th and 12th

lord

> >for

> > > D-3 chart is with Guru and as a result of this Guru's aspect

also

> >did

> > > not help my brother to survive.

> > > > I hope this helps you.

> > > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Guruji Shri Ramadas Rao,

> > > >

> > > > Please pardon my intrusion here, if u deem this question

being

> > > > inappropriate, but I have one thought that I would like to

> >mention

> > > > with regards to your loss of your younger brother... Also

very

> > > sorry

> > > > to hear about your loss.

> > > >

> > > > In your chart, since Mercury happens to be the Bhrartu Karak

BK

> > > being

> > > > placed in 3rd house, doesn't it cause Karako bhava nashya,

> > > especially

> > > > since the BK is conjoining functional malefic lord of 3 and

12

> > > > Jupiter and 8th lord Sun, also aspected by ® Saturn (though

> > > > lagnesh). Since he (Jupiter) is vargottama and as 3rd lord

in 3,

> >he

> > > > should give good results with respect to all other

signification

> >of

> > > > 3rd house such as efforts, communications, courage,

especially

> > > since

> > > > he is conjoining Mercury the 9th lord?

> > > >

> > > > Since I was very interested, I took a look at Dwadasamsa and

saw

> > > that

> > > > there Mercury the BK is again the 3rd lord placed in

Capricorn 7

> > > from

> > > > lagna, while Saturn ® who is lord of 7 and 8 placed in

Aries

> >and

> > > > aspects Mercury with his 10th aspect... Doesn't this suggest

that

> > > > Mercury along with conjoining Sun and aspected by Saturn (in

> >Rasi)

> > > > gives this poor result with respect to younger sibling but

for

> > > other

> > > > significations of the 3rd house, Jupiter indeed gives very

good

> > > > results?

> > > >

> > > > Also, since I'm learning Jyotish, I also try with different

> > > > ayanamshas and according to Raman, Mercury also undergoes

neech-

> > > banga

> > > > due Venus's placement in Kendra to Moon? (Moon in

> > > Aquarius)...Doesn't

> > > > this strengthen Mercury's ability to cause Karako bhava

nashaya

> >due

> > > > to cancellation of debility?

> > > >

> > > > Kindly consider these as those being presented for your view

as a

> > > > learner.

> > > >

> > > > With best regards,

> > > >

> > > > Jayashree

> > > > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

> > > <ramadasrao>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > > > Dear Vishwanadham Ji,

> > > > > The planets which are in Rasi Sandhi eventhough they are

> > > vargothama

> > > > fail to protect the house characters owned by them.In my

chart

> >Guru

> > > > is Vargothama in 3rd house in his own house of Meena Rasi

but in

> > > Rasi

> > > > Sandhi and he could not save my younger brother.I lost him

when

> >he

> > > > was 21years old.Other than him,I dont have any brothers or

> >sisters.

> > > > > I hope this helps you.

> > > > > With Sri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:

> > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gurus & other learned members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Planets placed in Rasi Sandhis tend to destroy the houses

owned

> > > by

> > > > them.

> > > > >

> > > > > Are there any exceptions to this? Like, planets which are

> >placed

> > > in

> > > > Vargottama amsa?

> > > > >

> > > > > Could any one please clarify.

> > > > >

> > > > > With much regards

> > > > > viswanadham

> > > > >

> > > > >

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