Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 FOR RAKESH KAPOOR I think you are a mental case and you should be thrown out of this list. I do not know what your motive is but you are a sick man and your mails are pure evil, may be this is what you have learned from your Guru, you so much boast about. If you have any decency in you, leave the group. Atma - rakesh kapoor vedic astrology Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:16 AM [vedic astrology] Mukund is RIGHT GOING THROUGH MUKUNDS EMAIL I FEEL HE IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS SANJAY RATH"s RATE of 183 $/Per HR is too high for India. But Sanjay Rath left central services to join astrology precisely for making money. His rate shows that he wants to tap the N american or European markets to make money.I have lived in N America and I know the desi mentality of earning Dollars. Holding conferences giving consultation to GORAS earning in DOLLARS is a DESI dream. I had a friend who left his JOB in India and started IMMIGRATION BUSINESS TO CANADA. Immigration is a big business and RAcket in Canada and now he is selling False dreams and earning dollars. In Raths Book Crux of Vedic astrology many horoscopes are INCorrect( SUNJAY DUTT). In India Sachin Tendulkar is a legend I have seen in astrology journals and astrology discussions at least three different Lagnas for Tendulkar. KN RAO uses Kanya Lagna some astrologers use LEO lagna some use Taurus Lagna.It is ridiculous.Those who know astrology and want to use it for the service of people do it silently without monetary benefits. KN RAO "s greed Manifested when he started making trips to USA. Naturally a GOVT servant like him was not getting paid well enough to make his retirement smooth. So he used astrology to make money in USA, covering his greed with POMPOUS LECTURES ON MORALITY and RESEARCH.Infact so many of his previous colleagus have left him in disgust.RATH also is using astrology to make money writing books holding conferences in USA , CHarging 180 $$/HR is all a pointer to that.But astrologers will not admit their real Motives. They cover it up with all NON SENSE ABOUT RESEARCH and SPREADING ASTROLOGY. RAO insipite of so much research CAN hardly predict.AMIT ROY TOLD ME THAT GREAT RISHIS like PARASHER experienced JYOTISH as GODS LAW in THEIR OWN STATE of SELF REALISATION.Todays JYOTISHs are MONEY GREEDY businessman instead of trading in GOLD or OIL they trade in PLANETS and IGORANCE.Do they spread wisdom . Answer is NO becaz they are themselves consumed by greed and LUST. God Bless these GREEDY astrologers.On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 pvr108 wrote :>Om Gurave Namah>Dear Rakesh,>> > Since I exsist Then GOD exsists becaz he is my real SELF.> > If I enquire WHO AM I I FIND THE ANSWER WHETHER GOD> > EXSISTS OR NOT. What RAMDAS is Saying is pure superstion> > based on ignorance of REAL SELF. I have not met a single> > astrologer who can predict(EXCEPT AMIT ROY). Even in> > METUCHEN and Edison I know people who have attended> > PVR"S seminar and have told me that it is just a money> > generating GIMMICK.>>Which "PVR's seminar" are you talking about? The only event>I have privately organized so far is "Achyuta Jyotish>Workshop" in January 2003. Are you talking about it?>>Well, that "money generating GIMMICK" was a free event BTW!>I made it free to attend and took only voluntary donations>(and there were no strings attached like "minimum>suggested donation" etc. It was completely voluntary). By>God's grace, people's voluntary contributions covered our>rental expenses etc, but I was originally prepared for a>loss too!>>If you criticize my teachings, I can understand it. After>all, I never claimed my knowledge is perfect. But, if you>say it was a money motivated event, facts don't support it.>> > Look at the VIMSHOTRI DASA Seminar.> > In order to predict from Vimsohhtari dasa only> > Pratyantar with Transists is needed. Rest is all> > meaningless.> >> > OM>>In my Vimsottari dasa class at SJC's workshop this weekend,>I *will* be focussing on identifying the antardasa and>pratyantardasa of an event. That will be given a lot of>importance. As you rightly say, PD is very important.>>I will also be covering upto deha-antardasas, which you>seem to think is "meaningless". However, those "meaningless">concepts were covered by Parasara too! Parasara covered upto>deha-antardasas (six levels) in BPHS and we have some nice>principles coming from the tradition. I will be sharing them>along with a case study that was painstakingly rectified to>explain tens of events upto deha-antardasa. The idea is to>show the power of the techniques. But, undoubtedly, the>focus will be on antardasa and pratyantardasa.>>Rakesh, Why don't you personally check out the Vimsottari>dasa workshop, instead of speculating based on hearsay? If>you cannot afford $50, I'll sponsor you and pay $50 to SJC>on your behalf, from my pocket. May be you'll learn>something from me and I will learn something from you.>>Hope this helps.>>At your service,>Narasimha>>>>------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->>Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark>Printer at MyInks.com. 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Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Dear Shri Nasrasimha ji I request you to take this evil man off this list. Obviously he seems to be a very frustated sick man and I think everyone is tired of him. Atma - rakesh kapoor vedic astrology Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:16 AM [vedic astrology] Mukund is RIGHT GOING THROUGH MUKUNDS EMAIL I FEEL HE IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS SANJAY RATH"s RATE of 183 $/Per HR is too high for India. But Sanjay Rath left central services to join astrology precisely for making money. His rate shows that he wants to tap the N american or European markets to make money.I have lived in N America and I know the desi mentality of earning Dollars. Holding conferences giving consultation to GORAS earning in DOLLARS is a DESI dream. I had a friend who left his JOB in India and started IMMIGRATION BUSINESS TO CANADA. Immigration is a big business and RAcket in Canada and now he is selling False dreams and earning dollars. In Raths Book Crux of Vedic astrology many horoscopes are INCorrect( SUNJAY DUTT). In India Sachin Tendulkar is a legend I have seen in astrology journals and astrology discussions at least three different Lagnas for Tendulkar. KN RAO uses Kanya Lagna some astrologers use LEO lagna some use Taurus Lagna.It is ridiculous.Those who know astrology and want to use it for the service of people do it silently without monetary benefits. KN RAO "s greed Manifested when he started making trips to USA. Naturally a GOVT servant like him was not getting paid well enough to make his retirement smooth. So he used astrology to make money in USA, covering his greed with POMPOUS LECTURES ON MORALITY and RESEARCH.Infact so many of his previous colleagus have left him in disgust.RATH also is using astrology to make money writing books holding conferences in USA , CHarging 180 $$/HR is all a pointer to that.But astrologers will not admit their real Motives. They cover it up with all NON SENSE ABOUT RESEARCH and SPREADING ASTROLOGY. RAO insipite of so much research CAN hardly predict.AMIT ROY TOLD ME THAT GREAT RISHIS like PARASHER experienced JYOTISH as GODS LAW in THEIR OWN STATE of SELF REALISATION.Todays JYOTISHs are MONEY GREEDY businessman instead of trading in GOLD or OIL they trade in PLANETS and IGORANCE.Do they spread wisdom . Answer is NO becaz they are themselves consumed by greed and LUST. God Bless these GREEDY astrologers.On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 pvr108 wrote :>Om Gurave Namah>Dear Rakesh,>> > Since I exsist Then GOD exsists becaz he is my real SELF.> > If I enquire WHO AM I I FIND THE ANSWER WHETHER GOD> > EXSISTS OR NOT. What RAMDAS is Saying is pure superstion> > based on ignorance of REAL SELF. I have not met a single> > astrologer who can predict(EXCEPT AMIT ROY). Even in> > METUCHEN and Edison I know people who have attended> > PVR"S seminar and have told me that it is just a money> > generating GIMMICK.>>Which "PVR's seminar" are you talking about? The only event>I have privately organized so far is "Achyuta Jyotish>Workshop" in January 2003. Are you talking about it?>>Well, that "money generating GIMMICK" was a free event BTW!>I made it free to attend and took only voluntary donations>(and there were no strings attached like "minimum>suggested donation" etc. It was completely voluntary). By>God's grace, people's voluntary contributions covered our>rental expenses etc, but I was originally prepared for a>loss too!>>If you criticize my teachings, I can understand it. After>all, I never claimed my knowledge is perfect. But, if you>say it was a money motivated event, facts don't support it.>> > Look at the VIMSHOTRI DASA Seminar.> > In order to predict from Vimsohhtari dasa only> > Pratyantar with Transists is needed. Rest is all> > meaningless.> >> > OM>>In my Vimsottari dasa class at SJC's workshop this weekend,>I *will* be focussing on identifying the antardasa and>pratyantardasa of an event. That will be given a lot of>importance. As you rightly say, PD is very important.>>I will also be covering upto deha-antardasas, which you>seem to think is "meaningless". However, those "meaningless">concepts were covered by Parasara too! Parasara covered upto>deha-antardasas (six levels) in BPHS and we have some nice>principles coming from the tradition. I will be sharing them>along with a case study that was painstakingly rectified to>explain tens of events upto deha-antardasa. The idea is to>show the power of the techniques. But, undoubtedly, the>focus will be on antardasa and pratyantardasa.>>Rakesh, Why don't you personally check out the Vimsottari>dasa workshop, instead of speculating based on hearsay? If>you cannot afford $50, I'll sponsor you and pay $50 to SJC>on your behalf, from my pocket. May be you'll learn>something from me and I will learn something from you.>>Hope this helps.>>At your service,>Narasimha>>>>------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->>Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark>Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada.>http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511>http://us.click./mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/.8XolB/TM>---~->>>Archives: vedic astrology>>Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>>To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->>....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>>|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>>Your use of is subject to >> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 SIR What is EVIL IN What I have said. Truth is hard to Digest. On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 Atma Prakash wrote : >Dear Shri Nasrasimha ji >I request you to take this evil man off this list. Obviously he seems to be a very frustated sick man and I think everyone is tired of him. >Atma > - > rakesh kapoor > vedic astrology > Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:16 AM > [vedic astrology] Mukund is RIGHT > > > GOING THROUGH MUKUNDS EMAIL I FEEL HE IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS SANJAY RATH"s RATE of 183 $/Per HR is too high for India. But Sanjay Rath left central services to join astrology precisely for making money. His rate shows that he wants to tap the N american or European markets to make money.I have lived in N America and I know the desi mentality of earning Dollars. Holding conferences giving consultation to GORAS earning in DOLLARS is a DESI dream. I had a friend who left his JOB in India and started IMMIGRATION BUSINESS TO CANADA. Immigration is a big business and RAcket in Canada and now he is selling False dreams and earning dollars. In Raths Book Crux of Vedic astrology many horoscopes are INCorrect( SUNJAY DUTT). In India Sachin Tendulkar is a legend I have seen in astrology journals and astrology discussions at least three different Lagnas for Tendulkar. KN RAO uses Kanya Lagna some astrologers use LEO lagna some use Taurus Lagna.It is ridiculous.Those who know astrology and want to use it for the service of people do it silently without monetary benefits. KN RAO "s greed Manifested when he started making trips to USA. Naturally a GOVT servant like him was not getting paid well enough to make his retirement smooth. So he used astrology to make money in USA, covering his greed with POMPOUS LECTURES ON MORALITY and RESEARCH.Infact so many of his previous colleagus have left him in disgust.RATH also is using astrology to make money writing books holding conferences in USA , CHarging 180 $$/HR is all a pointer to that.But astrologers will not admit their real Motives. They cover it up with all NON SENSE ABOUT RESEARCH and SPREADING ASTROLOGY. RAO insipite of so much research CAN hardly predict.AMIT ROY TOLD ME THAT GREAT RISHIS like PARASHER experienced JYOTISH as GODS LAW in THEIR OWN STATE of SELF REALISATION.Todays JYOTISHs are MONEY GREEDY businessman instead of trading in GOLD or OIL they trade in PLANETS and IGORANCE.Do they spread wisdom . Answer is NO becaz they are themselves consumed by greed and LUST. God Bless these GREEDY astrologers. > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 pvr108 wrote : > >Om Gurave Namah > >Dear Rakesh, > > > > > Since I exsist Then GOD exsists becaz he is my real SELF. > > > If I enquire WHO AM I I FIND THE ANSWER WHETHER GOD > > > EXSISTS OR NOT. What RAMDAS is Saying is pure superstion > > > based on ignorance of REAL SELF. I have not met a single > > > astrologer who can predict(EXCEPT AMIT ROY). Even in > > > METUCHEN and Edison I know people who have attended > > > PVR"S seminar and have told me that it is just a money > > > generating GIMMICK. > > > >Which "PVR's seminar" are you talking about? The only event > >I have privately organized so far is "Achyuta Jyotish > >Workshop" in January 2003. Are you talking about it? > > > >Well, that "money generating GIMMICK" was a free event BTW! > >I made it free to attend and took only voluntary donations > >(and there were no strings attached like "minimum > >suggested donation" etc. It was completely voluntary). By > >God's grace, people's voluntary contributions covered our > >rental expenses etc, but I was originally prepared for a > >loss too! > > > >If you criticize my teachings, I can understand it. After > >all, I never claimed my knowledge is perfect. But, if you > >say it was a money motivated event, facts don't support it. > > > > > Look at the VIMSHOTRI DASA Seminar. > > > In order to predict from Vimsohhtari dasa only > > > Pratyantar with Transists is needed. Rest is all > > > meaningless. > > > > > > OM > > > >In my Vimsottari dasa class at SJC's workshop this weekend, > >I *will* be focussing on identifying the antardasa and > >pratyantardasa of an event. That will be given a lot of > >importance. As you rightly say, PD is very important. > > > >I will also be covering upto deha-antardasas, which you > >seem to think is "meaningless". However, those "meaningless" > >concepts were covered by Parasara too! Parasara covered upto > >deha-antardasas (six levels) in BPHS and we have some nice > >principles coming from the tradition. I will be sharing them > >along with a case study that was painstakingly rectified to > >explain tens of events upto deha-antardasa. The idea is to > >show the power of the techniques. But, undoubtedly, the > >focus will be on antardasa and pratyantardasa. > > > >Rakesh, Why don't you personally check out the Vimsottari > >dasa workshop, instead of speculating based on hearsay? If > >you cannot afford $50, I'll sponsor you and pay $50 to SJC > >on your behalf, from my pocket. May be you'll learn > >something from me and I will learn something from you. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > >At your service, > >Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 Om Namshchandikayai Dear Rakesh Kapoor/Amit Roy, For quite some time you have been issuing derogatory and false statements about SJC and other jyotishis. It is not anybody's business as to what an astrologer's consultation fees are. As per policy, no SJC guru charges for teaching, and someone like Sanjayji spends hours teaching his students for free. I wonder whether you are aware of these facts. He also did consultations free for many people and their retinue of family members and students. In fact, he gave up a secure job and a secure source of income to devote time to SJC, despite the grave concern of his family members. We are only too glad that we have managed to persuade him to charge for his consultations this time. His reading are usually for an hour and a half. For many it goes beyond that. In fact, our opinion is, compared to other leading astrologers in the west, his rate is too low. We hope he would rectify that. He is a mechanical engineer hailing from a good family in Orissa. If he really wanted to 'earn in dollars', he could mint money in the US professional market, rather than spending all his time and energy in jyotish. He does not hold conferences here; Sri Jagannath Centre does, and SJC does not make any money from this. In fact, we barely break even. We strongly protest the acrimonious and uninformed statements that you have been making about SJC and Sanjay Rath. Please refrain from making false statements about things and people you do not know about. Perhaps you should examine yourself and your chart to find what is the source of such bitterness and anger within you. Or come and attend our workshops and participate in them, as offered to you by Narasimha Rao. Please do not bother to reply to this message, as I feel you have disturbed SJC students enough, and you should let them continue their jyotish unhampered. Sarbani Sarkar President, SJC-ASia rakesh kapoor [ricksk99 (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com]Saturday, October 04, 2003 12:16 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Mukund is RIGHT GOING THROUGH MUKUNDS EMAIL I FEEL HE IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS SANJAY RATH"s RATE of 183 $/Per HR is too high for India. But Sanjay Rath left central services to join astrology precisely for making money. His rate shows that he wants to tap the N american or European markets to make money.I have lived in N America and I know the desi mentality of earning Dollars. Holding conferences giving consultation to GORAS earning in DOLLARS is a DESI dream. I had a friend who left his JOB in India and started IMMIGRATION BUSINESS TO CANADA. Immigration is a big business and RAcket in Canada and now he is selling False dreams and earning dollars. In Raths Book Crux of Vedic astrology many horoscopes are INCorrect( SUNJAY DUTT). In India Sachin Tendulkar is a legend I have seen in astrology journals and astrology discussions at least three different Lagnas for Tendulkar. KN RAO uses Kanya Lagna some astrologers use LEO lagna some use Taurus Lagna.It is ridiculous.Those who know astrology and want to use it for the service of people do it silently without monetary benefits. KN RAO "s greed Manifested when he started making trips to USA. Naturally a GOVT servant like him was not getting paid well enough to make his retirement smooth. So he used astrology to make money in USA, covering his greed with POMPOUS LECTURES ON MORALITY and RESEARCH.Infact so many of his previous colleagus have left him in disgust.RATH also is using astrology to make money writing books holding conferences in USA , CHarging 180 $$/HR is all a pointer to that.But astrologers will not admit their real Motives. They cover it up with all NON SENSE ABOUT RESEARCH and SPREADING ASTROLOGY. RAO insipite of so much research CAN hardly predict.AMIT ROY TOLD ME THAT GREAT RISHIS like PARASHER experienced JYOTISH as GODS LAW in THEIR OWN STATE of SELF REALISATION.Todays JYOTISHs are MONEY GREEDY businessman instead of trading in GOLD or OIL they trade in PLANETS and IGORANCE.Do they spread wisdom . Answer is NO becaz they are themselves consumed by greed and LUST. God Bless these GREEDY astrologers.On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 pvr108 wrote :>Om Gurave Namah>Dear Rakesh,>> > Since I exsist Then GOD exsists becaz he is my real SELF.> > If I enquire WHO AM I I FIND THE ANSWER WHETHER GOD> > EXSISTS OR NOT. What RAMDAS is Saying is pure superstion> > based on ignorance of REAL SELF. I have not met a single> > astrologer who can predict(EXCEPT AMIT ROY). Even in> > METUCHEN and Edison I know people who have attended> > PVR"S seminar and have told me that it is just a money> > generating GIMMICK.>>Which "PVR's seminar" are you talking about? The only event>I have privately organized so far is "Achyuta Jyotish>Workshop" in January 2003. Are you talking about it?>>Well, that "money generating GIMMICK" was a free event BTW!>I made it free to attend and took only voluntary donations>(and there were no strings attached like "minimum>suggested donation" etc. It was completely voluntary). By>God's grace, people's voluntary contributions covered our>rental expenses etc, but I was originally prepared for a>loss too!>>If you criticize my teachings, I can understand it. After>all, I never claimed my knowledge is perfect. But, if you>say it was a money motivated event, facts don't support it.>> > Look at the VIMSHOTRI DASA Seminar.> > In order to predict from Vimsohhtari dasa only> > Pratyantar with Transists is needed. Rest is all> > meaningless.> >> > OM>>In my Vimsottari dasa class at SJC's workshop this weekend,>I *will* be focussing on identifying the antardasa and>pratyantardasa of an event. That will be given a lot of>importance. As you rightly say, PD is very important.>>I will also be covering upto deha-antardasas, which you>seem to think is "meaningless". However, those "meaningless">concepts were covered by Parasara too! Parasara covered upto>deha-antardasas (six levels) in BPHS and we have some nice>principles coming from the tradition. I will be sharing them>along with a case study that was painstakingly rectified to>explain tens of events upto deha-antardasa. The idea is to>show the power of the techniques. But, undoubtedly, the>focus will be on antardasa and pratyantardasa.>>Rakesh, Why don't you personally check out the Vimsottari>dasa workshop, instead of speculating based on hearsay? If>you cannot afford $50, I'll sponsor you and pay $50 to SJC>on your behalf, from my pocket. May be you'll learn>something from me and I will learn something from you.>>Hope this helps.>>At your service,>Narasimha>>>>------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->>Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark>Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada.>http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511>http://us.click./mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/.8XolB/TM>---~->>>Archives: vedic astrology>>Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>>To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->>....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>>|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>>Your use of is subject to >> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 May be whatever you say is true. May be K.N.Rao made trips to USA for the sake of money. May be Sanjay Rath is taking lectures for money. May be there are more people like that who are doing this, while you were writting this mail & while I am writing this mail. NOW TELL ME SOMETHING. SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL IN THAT? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO EARN MONEY? Are you not greedy for money? Dont you earn money because of your own knowledge? Dont doctors treat patients and earn money from it? If yes then what is the harm in astrologers earning money out of astrology?. Tell me, have your read in any of the scriptures not to earn money using your knowlege?. Is it written in any Vedas or anywhere else? If yes i would like to know where is it written. You have written that K.N.Rao may be doing this because he needs enough money during his retirement. Is that thought wrong? Tommorrow everybody will be retired & old & wont have enough energy in them to earn any living. Even you. R u not thinking of saving enough money for your retirement? Dont you think thats natural for a person to think this way? Mr. K.N.Rao found it in the way of astrology. So whats the problem. FORGET ALL THAT RAKESH. WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS WHETHER K.N. RAO OR SANJAY RATH EARN/MAKE ANY MONEY OR NOT. WE ARE ALL HERE (atleast i am, i dont know about others) TO LEARN ABOUT ASTROLOGY & NOT HERE TO PRICK IN OTHER PEOPLES PERSONAL LIFE OF HOW THEY MAKE OR SPEND THEIR MONEY. I AM SORRY IF I HAVE SOUNDED RUDE. BUT YOUR MAIL JUST POINTS OUT ONE THING RAKESH. THAT YOU ARE JEALOUS ABOUT SOMETHING OR YOU WOULDNOT HAVE BOTHERED TO WRITE SUCH STATEMENTS. rakesh kapoor <ricksk99 (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: GOING THROUGH MUKUNDS EMAIL I FEEL HE IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS SANJAY RATH"s RATE of 183 $/Per HR is too high for India. But Sanjay Rath left central services to join astrology precisely for making money. His rate shows that he wants to tap the N american or European markets to make money.I have lived in N America and I know the desi mentality of earning Dollars. Holding conferences giving consultation to GORAS earning in DOLLARS is a DESI dream. I had a friend who left his JOB in India and started IMMIGRATION BUSINESS TO CANADA. Immigration is a big business and RAcket in Canada and now he is selling False dreams and earning dollars. In Raths Book Crux of Vedic astrology many horoscopes are INCorrect( SUNJAY DUTT). In India Sachin Tendulkar is a legend I have seen in astrology journals and astrology discussions at least three different Lagnas for Tendulkar. KN RAO uses Kanya Lagna some astrologers use LEO lagna some use Taurus Lagna.It is ridiculous.Those who know astrology and want to use it for the service of people do it silently without monetary benefits. KN RAO "s greed Manifested when he started making trips to USA. Naturally a GOVT servant like him was not getting paid well enough to make his retirement smooth. So he used astrology to make money in USA, covering his greed with POMPOUS LECTURES ON MORALITY and RESEARCH.Infact so many of his previous colleagus have left him in disgust.RATH also is using astrology to make money writing books holding conferences in USA , CHarging 180 $$/HR is all a pointer to that.But astrologers will not admit their real Motives. They cover it up with all NON SENSE ABOUT RESEARCH and SPREADING ASTROLOGY. RAO insipite of so much research CAN hardly predict.AMIT ROY TOLD ME THAT GREAT RISHIS like PARASHER experienced JYOTISH as GODS LAW in THEIR OWN STATE of SELF REALISATION.Todays JYOTISHs are MONEY GREEDY businessman instead of trading in GOLD or OIL they trade in PLANETS and IGORANCE.Do they spread wisdom . Answer is NO becaz they are themselves consumed by greed and LUST. God Bless these GREEDY astrologers.On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 pvr108 wrote :>Om Gurave Namah>Dear Rakesh,>> > Since I exsist Then GOD exsists becaz he is my real SELF.> > If I enquire WHO AM I I FIND THE ANSWER WHETHER GOD> > EXSISTS OR NOT. What RAMDAS is Saying is pure superstion> > based on ignorance of REAL SELF. I have not met a single> > astrologer who can predict(EXCEPT AMIT ROY). Even in> > METUCHEN and Edison I know people who have attended> > PVR"S seminar and have told me that it is just a money> > generating GIMMICK.>>Which "PVR's seminar" are you talking about? The only event>I have privately organized so far is "Achyuta Jyotish>Workshop" in January 2003. Are you talking about it?>>Well, that "money generating GIMMICK" was a free event BTW!>I made it free to attend and took only voluntary donations>(and there were no strings attached like "minimum>suggested donation" etc. It was completely voluntary). By>God's grace, people's voluntary contributions covered our>rental expenses etc, but I was originally prepared for a>loss too!>>If you criticize my teachings, I can understand it. After>all, I never claimed my knowledge is perfect. But, if you>say it was a money motivated event, facts don't support it.>> > Look at the VIMSHOTRI DASA Seminar.> > In order to predict from Vimsohhtari dasa only> > Pratyantar with Transists is needed. Rest is all> > meaningless.> >> > OM>>In my Vimsottari dasa class at SJC's workshop this weekend,>I *will* be focussing on identifying the antardasa and>pratyantardasa of an event. That will be given a lot of>importance. As you rightly say, PD is very important.>>I will also be covering upto deha-antardasas, which you>seem to think is "meaningless". However, those "meaningless">concepts were covered by Parasara too! Parasara covered upto>deha-antardasas (six levels) in BPHS and we have some nice>principles coming from the tradition. I will be sharing them>along with a case study that was painstakingly rectified to>explain tens of events upto deha-antardasa. The idea is to>show the power of the techniques. But, undoubtedly, the>focus will be on antardasa and pratyantardasa.>>Rakesh, Why don't you personally check out the Vimsottari>dasa workshop, instead of speculating based on hearsay? If>you cannot afford $50, I'll sponsor you and pay $50 to SJC>on your behalf, from my pocket. May be you'll learn>something from me and I will learn something from you.>>Hope this helps.>>At your service,>Narasimha>>>>------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->>Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark>Printer at MyInks.com. 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 KUN JYO Astrology is supposed to be a divine science a Ved Anga whivh should lead to Vedanta and Atma Jnana. Astrology is not like medicine which deals with Tangible objects. Astrology deals with the OCCULT the un known and great sages in their spiritual instructiond clearly advise their students who are SADHAKS not to use astrology to make money. I am not jealous because I have already earned lot of money without Jyotish. On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 Kun Jyo wrote : >Rakesh, > >May be whatever you say is true. May be K.N.Rao made trips to USA for the sake of money. May be Sanjay Rath is taking lectures for money. May be there are more people like that who are doing this, while you were writting this mail & while I am writing this mail. > >NOW TELL ME SOMETHING. SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL IN THAT? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO EARN MONEY? >Are you not greedy for money? Dont you earn money because of your own knowledge? Dont doctors treat patients and earn money from it? If yes then what is the harm in astrologers earning money out of astrology?. Tell me, have your read in any of the scriptures not to earn money using your knowlege?. Is it written in any Vedas or anywhere else? If yes i would like to know where is it written. >You have written that K.N.Rao may be doing this because he needs enough money during his retirement. Is that thought wrong? Tommorrow everybody will be retired & old & wont have enough energy in them to earn any living. Even you. R u not thinking of saving enough money for your retirement? Dont you think thats natural for a person to think this way? Mr. K.N.Rao found it in the way of astrology. So whats the problem. > >FORGET ALL THAT RAKESH. WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS WHETHER K.N. RAO OR SANJAY RATH EARN/MAKE ANY MONEY OR NOT. >WE ARE ALL HERE (atleast i am, i dont know about others) TO LEARN ABOUT ASTROLOGY & NOT HERE TO PRICK IN OTHER PEOPLES PERSONAL LIFE OF HOW THEY MAKE OR SPEND THEIR MONEY. > >I AM SORRY IF I HAVE SOUNDED RUDE. BUT YOUR MAIL JUST POINTS OUT ONE THING RAKESH. THAT YOU ARE JEALOUS ABOUT SOMETHING OR YOU WOULDNOT HAVE BOTHERED TO WRITE SUCH STATEMENTS. > > > >rakesh kapoor <ricksk99 (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: > >GOING THROUGH MUKUNDS EMAIL I FEEL HE IS CORRECT WHEN HE SAYS SANJAY RATH"s RATE of 183 $/Per HR is too high for India. But Sanjay Rath left central services to join astrology precisely for making money. His rate shows that he wants to tap the N american or European markets to make money.I have lived in N America and I know the desi mentality of earning Dollars. Holding conferences giving consultation to GORAS earning in DOLLARS is a DESI dream. I had a friend who left his JOB in India and started IMMIGRATION BUSINESS TO CANADA. Immigration is a big business and RAcket in Canada and now he is selling False dreams and earning dollars. In Raths Book Crux of Vedic astrology many horoscopes are INCorrect( SUNJAY DUTT). In India Sachin Tendulkar is a legend I have seen in astrology journals and astrology discussions at least three different Lagnas for Tendulkar. KN RAO uses Kanya Lagna some astrologers use LEO lagna some use Taurus Lagna.It is ridiculous.Those who know astrology and want > to use it for the service of people do it silently without monetary benefits. KN RAO "s greed Manifested when he started making trips to USA. Naturally a GOVT servant like him was not getting paid well enough to make his retirement smooth. So he used astrology to make money in USA, covering his greed with POMPOUS LECTURES ON MORALITY and RESEARCH.Infact so many of his previous colleagus have left him in disgust.RATH also is using astrology to make money writing books holding conferences in USA , CHarging 180 $$/HR is all a pointer to that.But astrologers will not admit their real Motives. They cover it up with all NON SENSE ABOUT RESEARCH and SPREADING ASTROLOGY. RAO insipite of so much research CAN hardly predict.AMIT ROY TOLD ME THAT GREAT RISHIS like PARASHER experienced JYOTISH as GODS LAW in THEIR OWN STATE of SELF REALISATION.Todays JYOTISHs are MONEY GREEDY businessman instead of trading in GOLD or OIL they trade in PLANETS and IGORANCE.Do they spread wisdom . Answer is NO > becaz they are themselves consumed by greed and LUST. God Bless these GREEDY astrologers. > >On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 pvr108 wrote : > >Om Gurave Namah > >Dear Rakesh, > > > > > Since I exsist Then GOD exsists becaz he is my real SELF. > > > If I enquire WHO AM I I FIND THE ANSWER WHETHER GOD > > > EXSISTS OR NOT. What RAMDAS is Saying is pure superstion > > > based on ignorance of REAL SELF. I have not met a single > > > astrologer who can predict(EXCEPT AMIT ROY). Even in > > > METUCHEN and Edison I know people who have attended > > > PVR"S seminar and have told me that it is just a money > > > generating GIMMICK. > > > >Which "PVR's seminar" are you talking about? The only event > >I have privately organized so far is "Achyuta Jyotish > >Workshop" in January 2003. Are you talking about it? > > > >Well, that "money generating GIMMICK" was a free event BTW! > >I made it free to attend and took only voluntary donations > >(and there were no strings attached like "minimum > >suggested donation" etc. It was completely voluntary). By > >God's grace, people's voluntary contributions covered our > >rental expenses etc, but I was originally prepared for a > >loss too! > > > >If you criticize my teachings, I can understand it. After > >all, I never claimed my knowledge is perfect. But, if you > >say it was a money motivated event, facts don't support it. > > > > > Look at the VIMSHOTRI DASA Seminar. > > > In order to predict from Vimsohhtari dasa only > > > Pratyantar with Transists is needed. Rest is all > > > meaningless. > > > > > > OM > > > >In my Vimsottari dasa class at SJC's workshop this weekend, > >I *will* be focussing on identifying the antardasa and > >pratyantardasa of an event. That will be given a lot of > >importance. As you rightly say, PD is very important. > > > >I will also be covering upto deha-antardasas, which you > >seem to think is "meaningless". However, those "meaningless" > >concepts were covered by Parasara too! Parasara covered upto > >deha-antardasas (six levels) in BPHS and we have some nice > >principles coming from the tradition. I will be sharing them > >along with a case study that was painstakingly rectified to > >explain tens of events upto deha-antardasa. The idea is to > >show the power of the techniques. But, undoubtedly, the > >focus will be on antardasa and pratyantardasa. > > > >Rakesh, Why don't you personally check out the Vimsottari > >dasa workshop, instead of speculating based on hearsay? If > >you cannot afford $50, I'll sponsor you and pay $50 to SJC > >on your behalf, from my pocket. May be you'll learn > >something from me and I will learn something from you. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > >At your service, > >Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > >|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > >....... 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