Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Dear Tanvir, You are well versed in astrology.It would be placement of the 7th lord retrograde and aspects as well as asociation which will decide whether marital problems would arise or otherwise. Chandrashekhar - Tanvir vedic astrology Sunday, May 18, 2003 12:53 AM [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Dear Guru Jees, I remember to read somewhere that a retrograded 7th lord causes more than one marriage. Is this true? Or will the retrograded 7th lord cause problems in married life? Please enlighten me in this regard. Regards,Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastroArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Hi Tanvir, I'd more say a delayed marriage more than much else. The presence of a retro planet in 7H should technically be bothersome to the marriage itself, depending on which one actually is. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Tanvir vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:23 PM [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Dear Guru Jees, I remember to read somewhere that a retrograded 7th lord causes more than one marriage. Is this true? Or will the retrograded 7th lord cause problems in married life? Please enlighten me in this regard. Regards,Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Dear Ramapriya Jee and Chandrashekhar Jee, Thanks for the answers. The native is Sagittarius, has retro Merc (7th L) in 9th with 9th lord Sun itself. His 7th house has 2 planets - Mars (5, 12 Lords) and Jupiter (1, 7 Lords). 8th house has Ve (6, 11 L) and Saturn (2, 3 L). I think Venus in 8th would cause Vipreet Raja Yoga but bad for martial life as it's the natural significator of marriage etc. being 8th. Also it joins Saturn a malefic for the ascendant. I have heard that the houses a retro planet lords suffer to some degree. here it is with own sign 9th lord that is why it will reduce the badness, but again, Mercury is combust by the Sun 9th lord. Ramapriya Jee, if it causes delayed marriage then can I take that the native will not be marrying within 3/4/5 years from now? His Venus is with Sani - a delay causing planet again. His UL is in cancer and there are Sat and Ve. So I think his wife will be going to be romantic and hard working, patience etc. Am I correct here? 2nd from UL has two malefics. (Sun natural malefic, joins Budha so he becomes malefic, too.) This should not be good for martial peace. So Dear Gurus, am I correct here about these? Can I predict a delayed marriage? Which period (Esp AD) can make the marriage? Two planets in 7th house, 7th lord retro joined 9th lord in own house, Ve with Saturn - I am confused here when he can get married. Any guidance from Gurus and other members is appreciated.Regards,Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Sunday, May 18, 2003 11:08 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Hi Tanvir, I'd more say a delayed marriage more than much else. The presence of a retro planet in 7H should technically be bothersome to the marriage itself, depending on which one actually is. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Tanvir vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:23 PM [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Dear Guru Jees, I remember to read somewhere that a retrograded 7th lord causes more than one marriage. Is this true? Or will the retrograded 7th lord cause problems in married life? Please enlighten me in this regard. Regards,TanvirArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Attachment: (application/octet-stream) 7th_house_confusion.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Shri Tanvir, Just my two cents here to your questions. AD or PD could belong to 9th lord. Lets recap what retrograde usually means in Jyotish: powerful, unfulfilled karmic debts manifesting themselves in a particular area of life. Learned members, please correct me if I am wrong here. I wonder if 7th lord retrograde in conjunction with 9th lord could mean that previous marriages for the native were not in accordance with the principle of Dharma. Recall that marriage is seen as one of the means for fulfilling one's Dharma. So I opine that the delay shall be there untill the native perceives marriage as doing service to others and not as a mere vehicle for love & pleasure. Secondly, do combust (ineffective) and retrograde (doubly effective) work to cancel each other? Your analysis of Ve and UL shows marriage to be more likely a bed of thorns for the native. Would you then recommend marriage (Ju in 7th guarantees marriage)? As per Sanjay Rath's recent mails, would you recommend fasting on days of UL to the native? regards Hari > Thanks for the answers. The native is Sagittarius, has retro Merc (7th L) in 9th with 9th lord Sun itself. His 7th house has 2 planets - Mars (5, 12 Lords) and Jupiter (1, 7 Lords). 8th house has Ve (6, 11 L) and Saturn (2, 3 L). I think Venus in 8th would cause Vipreet Raja Yoga but bad for martial life as it's the natural significator of marriage etc. being 8th. Also it joins Saturn a malefic for the ascendant. > > I have heard that the houses a retro planet lords suffer to some degree. here it is with own sign 9th lord that is why it will reduce the badness, but again, Mercury is combust by the Sun 9th lord. > > Ramapriya Jee, if it causes delayed marriage then can I take that the native will not be marrying within 3/4/5 years from now? His Venus is with Sani - a delay causing planet again. > > His UL is in cancer and there are Sat and Ve. So I think his wife will be going to be romantic and hard working, patience etc. Am I correct here? > > 2nd from UL has two malefics. (Sun natural malefic, joins Budha so he becomes malefic, too.) This should not be good for martial peace. > > So Dear Gurus, am I correct here about these? Can I predict a delayed marriage? Which period (Esp AD) can make the marriage? Two planets in 7th house, 7th lord retro joined 9th lord in own house, Ve with Saturn - I am confused here when he can get married. > > Any guidance from Gurus and other members is appreciated. > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir@s... > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 Dear Hari Jee, Yes I also think that the PD of marriage can belong to Sun the 9th lord. But AD? Not sure he will wait till 2007 for marriage, can it delay like that? Do not know :-( I am also not sure how retro and combustion becomes nullified by each other? Gurus would kindly clarify that I hope. I am not sure if the marriage will be a bed of thorns or not :-) But there must be troubles to some degree as Venus is in 8th joining Saturn and 7th lord combust and retro - do not you think so? Even though Sun combusts Mercury, he is a big help here I think. Or will not this combustion be harmful since Sun in 9th lord? What do you think? Gurus please comment. Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, May 19, 2003 3:37 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Retro 7th lord ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Shri Tanvir,Just my two cents here to your questions. AD or PD could belong to 9th lord.Lets recap what retrograde usually means in Jyotish: powerful, unfulfilled karmic debts manifesting themselves in a particular area of life. Learned members, please correct me if I am wrong here.I wonder if 7th lord retrograde in conjunction with 9th lord could mean that previous marriages for the native were not in accordance with the principle of Dharma. Recall that marriage is seen as one of the means for fulfilling one's Dharma. So I opine that the delay shall be there untill the native perceives marriage as doing service to others and not as a mere vehicle for love & pleasure.Secondly, do combust (ineffective) and retrograde (doubly effective) work to cancel each other?Your analysis of Ve and UL shows marriage to be more likely a bed of thorns for the native. Would you then recommend marriage (Ju in 7th guarantees marriage)? As per Sanjay Rath's recent mails, would you recommend fasting on days of UL to the native? regardsHari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Shri Tanvir, > Yes I also think that the PD of marriage can belong to Sun the 9th lord. But AD? Not sure he will wait till 2007 for marriage, can it delay like that? Do not know :-( Given that Ju has already transited through Ge and safely assuming that marriage did not occur then, Ju's transit of Li should be favorable for marriage and thats roughly 2 years from now. Check AD for that period then? regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 Dear Hari Jee, I am guessing that you taking Ju TR (transit) into Leo for it has NT Merc (Natal merc). One question, do you consider closeness degree for TR? Like NT Merc 23* Leo, then do you believe that it is more likely to happen when TR Ju gets close to NT 7th Lord? Just a thought. Can't it also be TR Ju in Virgo from where it aspects NT 7th house and NT Ju? Regards,Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, May 19, 2003 5:10 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Retro 7th lord ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Shri Tanvir,> Yes I also think that the PD of marriage can belong to Sun the 9th lord. But AD? Not sure he will wait till 2007 for marriage, can it delay like that? Do not know :-(Given that Ju has already transited through Ge and safely assuming that marriage did not occur then, Ju's transit of Li should be favorable for marriage and thats roughly 2 years from now. Check AD for that period then?regardsHari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Dear Tanveer, I think the native could marry in pratyantar of Jupiter when Jupiter shifts to Leo. I think he would be running Mars pratyantar by then. My experience is that Saturn delays marriage when he aspects/associates the 7th or Ascendant. Chandrashekhar. - Tanvir vedic astrology Monday, May 19, 2003 12:28 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Dear Ramapriya Jee and Chandrashekhar Jee, Thanks for the answers. The native is Sagittarius, has retro Merc (7th L) in 9th with 9th lord Sun itself. His 7th house has 2 planets - Mars (5, 12 Lords) and Jupiter (1, 7 Lords). 8th house has Ve (6, 11 L) and Saturn (2, 3 L). I think Venus in 8th would cause Vipreet Raja Yoga but bad for martial life as it's the natural significator of marriage etc. being 8th. Also it joins Saturn a malefic for the ascendant. I have heard that the houses a retro planet lords suffer to some degree. here it is with own sign 9th lord that is why it will reduce the badness, but again, Mercury is combust by the Sun 9th lord. Ramapriya Jee, if it causes delayed marriage then can I take that the native will not be marrying within 3/4/5 years from now? His Venus is with Sani - a delay causing planet again. His UL is in cancer and there are Sat and Ve. So I think his wife will be going to be romantic and hard working, patience etc. Am I correct here? 2nd from UL has two malefics. (Sun natural malefic, joins Budha so he becomes malefic, too.) This should not be good for martial peace. So Dear Gurus, am I correct here about these? Can I predict a delayed marriage? Which period (Esp AD) can make the marriage? Two planets in 7th house, 7th lord retro joined 9th lord in own house, Ve with Saturn - I am confused here when he can get married. Any guidance from Gurus and other members is appreciated.Regards,Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Sunday, May 18, 2003 11:08 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Hi Tanvir, I'd more say a delayed marriage more than much else. The presence of a retro planet in 7H should technically be bothersome to the marriage itself, depending on which one actually is. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Tanvir vedic astrology Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:23 PM [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Dear Guru Jees, I remember to read somewhere that a retrograded 7th lord causes more than one marriage. Is this true? Or will the retrograded 7th lord cause problems in married life? Please enlighten me in this regard. Regards,TanvirArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Dear Chandrashekhar Jee, Thank you very much :-)Regards,Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:29 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Retro 7th lord Dear Tanveer, I think the native could marry in pratyantar of Jupiter when Jupiter shifts to Leo. I think he would be running Mars pratyantar by then. My experience is that Saturn delays marriage when he aspects/associates the 7th or Ascendant. Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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