Is wearing gemstones mandatory for weak planets?

September 20, 2003

Dear respected Gurujis,

I have a question, I faintly remember reading a post here sometime

back, as to when a gemstone is prescribed for a native and when

mantras, propitiations will be effective in which case, gemstones are

not recommended. I also remember reading somewhere that how effective

mantras/worship can be depends on a native's 5th house of Purva-punya

and that if the 5th house is strong, then mantras can be of immediate

effect and if not, then mantras usually don't give results for a

really long time, and sometimes not in this birth. Is this correct? I

really believe in the view that mantras, worship are done for

personal betterment, since our current birth is based on past deeds,

and worship, prayers make us better people in this birth thereby we

do good/better deeds which favors good future births and eventual

emancipation. However, like all (or most , I'm also interested in

worship for the sake of better results with certain areas when

needed, and hence really interested in knowing how to find out if

mantras are effective for a chart or gemstones are needed for a chart?

Could someone clarify please.

Warmly,

Jayashree

September 22, 2003

If a native's fifth house or its lord is stronger, mantras of all kind can be

helpful to the native there is really no need for the Gem stone as a remedy.

A. Ramani

Jayashree <jayashree_ravi (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear respected Gurujis,I have a question, I faintly remember reading a post here

sometime back, as to when a gemstone is prescribed for a native and when

mantras, propitiations will be effective in which case, gemstones are not

recommended. I also remember reading somewhere that how effective

mantras/worship can be depends on a native's 5th house of Purva-punya and that

if the 5th house is strong, then mantras can be of immediate effect and if not,

then mantras usually don't give results for a really long time, and sometimes

not in this birth. Is this correct? I really believe in the view that mantras,

worship are done for personal betterment, since our current birth is based on

past deeds, and worship, prayers make us better people in this birth thereby we

do good/better deeds which favors good future births and eventual

emancipation. However, like all (or most , I'm also interested in worship for

the sake of better results with certain areas when needed, and hence really

interested in knowing how to find out if mantras are effective for a chart or

gemstones are needed for a chart?Could someone clarify please.Warmly,Jayashree

September 22, 2003

Dear Ramaniji,

I think my question was not clear enough. I think I read a long time

ago, probably in an article by Mr. Rohini Ranjan at Boloji.com

regarding mantras being effective if the 5th house is strong. But my

question basically arose after seeing the posts on debilitated and

retrograde planets. My lagna lord Saturn ® placed in 4th kendra in

Rasi (Taurus) is debilitated in Navamsa, due to which many people

have told me to wear a big Blue Sapphire, however, that is something

I can't afford due to various reasons. Also, I think my 5th house

which carries only some 22 bindus in SAV is weak. I don't know about

my 5th lord. Initially I formatted the question differently,

addressing whether I need a Blue Sapphire or mantras might help me

well instead, but changed it since it sounded more to be a reading

request. I was/am basically trying to figure whether my chart has a

promise for strengthening weak planets by mantras alone. So I'm

trying to find out if i) 5th house's strength determines whether

mantras would be effective or ii) Any other factors besides 5th

house's strength make a native's mantras effective, without needing

gemstones.

I was/am not clear which are the factors that one needs to check in a

chart to find whether mantras will be effective so that gemstones are

not needed?

Best regards,

Jayashree

vedic astrology, Ramani Alwar

<aramani_1969> wrote:

> Well,

> If a native's fifth house or its lord is stronger, mantras of all

kind can be helpful to the native there is really no need for the Gem

stone as a remedy.

> A. Ramani

>

> Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> Dear respected Gurujis,

>

> I have a question, I faintly remember reading a post here sometime

> back, as to when a gemstone is prescribed for a native and when

> mantras, propitiations will be effective in which case, gemstones

are

> not recommended. I also remember reading somewhere that how

effective

> mantras/worship can be depends on a native's 5th house of Purva-

punya

> and that if the 5th house is strong, then mantras can be of

immediate

> effect and if not, then mantras usually don't give results for a

> really long time, and sometimes not in this birth. Is this correct?

I

> really believe in the view that mantras, worship are done for

> personal betterment, since our current birth is based on past

deeds,

> and worship, prayers make us better people in this birth thereby we

> do good/better deeds which favors good future births and eventual

> emancipation. However, like all (or most , I'm also interested in

> worship for the sake of better results with certain areas when

> needed, and hence really interested in knowing how to find out if

> mantras are effective for a chart or gemstones are needed for a

chart?

>

> Could someone clarify please.

>

> Warmly,

>

> Jayashree

>

September 22, 2003

Om Gurave NamahDear Jayashree

One does not need gemstones to strengthen the faith in mantra or make it more

effective. In fact it is vice versa. That gemstone is a piece of mud lying

around and of no value until it is infused with life with the mantras. The

stones idols are made of have no meaning until they are carved into idols of

gods and infused with the pranas of the mantra.

Forget all this and forge ahead with a sincere prayer to Jagannatha. He takes

care of all, and if you have faith in a simple mantra like Hare Rama Krishna,

then say this every morning and your life will change.Best Regards,Sanjay

Rathhttp://srath.com

-

Jayashree

vedic astrology

Monday, September 22, 2003 4:55 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Is wearing gemstones mandatory for weak planets?

Dear Ramaniji,I think my question was not clear enough. I think I read a long

time ago, probably in an article by Mr. Rohini Ranjan at Boloji.com regarding

mantras being effective if the 5th house is strong. But my question basically

arose after seeing the posts on debilitated and retrograde planets. My lagna

lord Saturn ® placed in 4th kendra in Rasi (Taurus) is debilitated in

Navamsa, due to which many people have told me to wear a big Blue Sapphire,

however, that is something I can't afford due to various reasons. Also, I think

my 5th house which carries only some 22 bindus in SAV is weak. I don't know

about my 5th lord. Initially I formatted the question differently, addressing

whether I need a Blue Sapphire or mantras might help me well instead, but

changed it since it sounded more to be a reading request. I was/am basically

trying to figure whether my chart has a promise for strengthening weak planets

by mantras alone. So I'm trying to find out if i) 5th house's strength

determines whether mantras would be effective or ii) Any other factors besides

5th house's strength make a native's mantras effective, without needing

gemstones.I was/am not clear which are the factors that one needs to check in a

chart to find whether mantras will be effective so that gemstones are not

needed?Best regards,Jayashreevedic astrology, Ramani

Alwar <aramani_1969> wrote:> Well, > If a native's fifth house or its lord

is stronger, mantras of all kind can be helpful to the native there is really no

need for the Gem stone as a remedy. > A. Ramani> > > > > Jayashree

<jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> Dear respected Gurujis,> > I have a question, I

faintly remember reading a post here sometime > back, as to when a gemstone is

prescribed for a native and when > mantras, propitiations will be effective in

which case, gemstones are > not recommended. I also remember reading somewhere

that how effective > mantras/worship can be depends on a native's 5th house of

Purva-punya > and that if the 5th house is strong, then mantras can be of

immediate > effect and if not, then mantras usually don't give results for a >

really long time, and sometimes not in this birth. Is this correct? I > really

believe in the view that mantras, worship are done for > personal betterment,

since our current birth is based on past deeds, > and worship, prayers make us

better people in this birth thereby we > do good/better deeds which favors good

future births and eventual > emancipation. However, like all (or most , I'm

also interested in > worship for the sake of better results with certain areas

when > needed, and hence really interested in knowing how to find out if >

mantras are effective for a chart or gemstones are needed for a chart?> > Could

someone clarify please.> > Warmly,> > Jayashree> >

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September 22, 2003

Dear Sanjay,

Good to see your post.

/however my worm-cruel comp. problem seems much worse now!/

I am so glad you expressed a firm standing on this so many times raised, used

and abused issue, in a clear and succinct manner as usual, thank you so much

for that!

I offer me as an example- only faith can help. Faith in God /and one lives in

our heart/ is a MAGIC, in literal non-metaphorical sense- faith energizes our

thought process to a such an unbelievable extent, miracles do happen all the

times.

Banal example I had today when thought came to mind- I felt an electrical

shock-like- speedy impulse throughout my body, was reminded how powerful the

thought is/and WORD, for that matter- 'married' in mantra prayer/ . I've always

believed faith is the greatest blessing in our life. Can we say that God loves

our infatuation-like devotion to such an extent that even 'destiny' can be

changed in some major areas of our lives, if truly "passionately" /sorry I

cannot find the right word to describe that feeling of exaltation faith takes

us to/ if strongly invested.

When tough times come, we all tend to seek help from outside, and I do that

myself- have pearls, y.sapphire, would have worn them if worked. My

understanding is that stone can help IF it helps us elevate our faith- it's

miserable to think 'put the stone' and

get rid of problem /that misery smart profit-driven vedic-gem jeweler avoid,

not failing to manipulate those in pain by rising their-seen that/.

Thanks so much Sanjay, you are the best!

/offering 'stones' would make you rich, I am so happy you don't,

I wish you richness in your own terms,

and success in your Mission.

Anna

Sanjay Rath <srath (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote: