Mutual Placement of Mercury and Jupiter! (Power of Discrimination)

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I agree with Ashwin. According to Dr. B.V. Raman this is the case.

So Jupiter and Mercury are not bitter enemies towards each other.

 

Best regards,

Harsha

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Ashwin Sun

<ashwinjlsun> wrote:

> Dear members,

>

> I just checked my resources to be absolutely sure, and it is true

that JU sees ME as an enemy, but ME traditionally sees JU as a

neutral. Thus the Guru has to deal with the difficulties of the

student, whereas the student must Choose to follow the Guru, and

spiritual life...the long and winding road.

>

> Just a Note,

> Namaste-

> Ashwin

>

>

> kpkanitkar <kpkanitkar> wrote:

>

> Respected Narsimhaji

>

> This post is really very good and informative and refines ones

views

> to look at Mercury and Jupitor astrologically. As they are

considered

> as bitter enemies towards each other still the concept behind

Student

> Teacher relations really helps to learn astrology in a different

way.

>

> Thank you very much for such a informative post.

>

> Regards

> KPK

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste Samarth,

> >

> > > From Jupiter .. Mercury in 1,4,7,10 = Poor

> > > From Jupiter .. Mercury in 3,5,8,11 = Medium

> > > From Jupiter .. Mercury in 2,6,9,12 = Excellent

> >

> > I want to add another perspective to this.

> >

> > Let us go back to Parasara's teachings and see which houses were

> defined as good houses for Mercury from Jupiter and which houses

were

> defined as good houses for Jupiter from Mercury.

> >

> > Good houses for Mercury with respect to Jupiter are 6th, 8th,

11th

> and 12th houses.

> > Good houses for Jupiter with respect to Mercury are 1st, 2nd,

4th,

> 5th, 6th, 9th, 10th and 11th.

> >

> > One may be surprised to find that 3 out of 4 benefic places for

> Mercury with respect to Jupiter are dusthanas. After all, a good

> student invariably causes a lot of trouble to his guru!

> >

> > Jupiter represents intellect (dhee) and Mercury represents

> scholarship and learning ability as per Parasara. Intellect and

the

> spirit of learning are like guru and sishya.

> >

> > The 6th house is the middle house of artha trikona. It shows the

> activity of overcoming obstacles in the process of serving purpose

> (serving purpose is 10th). The purpose (artha) served by the

> intellect (Jupiter) is to finally guide the mind (Moon) and self

> (lagna). Mercury has no place in the final artha (10th house), but

he

> figures in the intermediate stage of overcoming obstacles. One's

> spirit of learning and knowledge (Mercury) challenges (6th) one's

> intellect (Jupiter) and that helps intellect (Jupiter) serve its

> purpose!

> >

> > Just as a good sishya probes a guru and argues with him, one's

> learning ability probes and challenges one's intellect (and that

is

> beneficial to the intellect).

> >

> > Learning ability (Mercury or student) is benefic when probing

and

> serving (6th) or forcing contemplation/tapasya (8th) or giving

gains

> to (11th - what are the desires of intellect? What are its gains?

> Think!) or receiving from (12th) intellect (Jupiter or teacher)!

That

> is why they are the benefic places for Mercury with respect to

> Jupiter!

> >

> > OTOH, Jupiter (intellect or teacher) is best placed in 1st, 2nd,

> 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th, 10th and 11th from Mercury. Why?

> >

> > Teacher benefits a student when with him (1st). Note that a

teacher

> benefits a student merely by being with him, but a student does

not

> benefit a teacher when he is merely with him. He benefits teacher

> only when engaged in 6th, 8th, 11th and 12th house activities of

guru!

> >

> > Student (learning ability or Mercury) also benefits when teacher

> (intellect or Jupiter) is placed in 2nd (resources), 4th

> (learning/direction), 5th (abilities), 6th (probing/challenging),

9th

> (sense of dharma), 10th (karma) and 11th (gains). A teacher should

> stay with a student, be his resource, make him learn, impact his

> abilities, probe him, define his dharma and karma and result in

the

> gain of knowledge.

> >

> > There is a lot of meaning hidden in ashtakavarga definition.

Those

> numbers are not arbitrary. Numbers used in each ashtakavarga and

for

> each planet have a clear meaning (that is intuitive!). The correct

> understanding will require

> >

> > (1) understanding what each house stands for - not in terms of a

> huge list of things, but in terms of a basic axiom of one thing

per

> house

> > (2) understanding what each reference (lagna, Sun, Moon, Mars

etc)

> stands for (perhaps using real life analogies like teacher and

> student)

> > (3) being able to derive the meaning of each house with respect

to

> each reference

> > (4) understanding the interaction between various planets and

> things denoted by them (e.g. intellect and spirit of learning,

> intellect and mind, soul and mind, initiative and mind etc)

> >

> > I'll be covering all the above in detail and then covering Moon

> lagna and Sun lagna in greater detail, at this weekend's workshop

at

> Edison, NJ.

> >

> > If you are interested and need more details, please contact

Narayan

> Iyer at narayan@s... or naaraayana_iyer

> >

> > For info on all workshops, please go to

> >

> > vedic astrology

> >

> > and look for the file SJC_WW_2003_Schedule.doc.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

>

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[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Jupiter and Mercury are inimical as much that of Sun and Saturn. As far as

the education of the native is concerned Mars is inimical to education. If mars

aspects Mercury I observed the native could not usually afford the education

other than Mars related field if the native attempts other he totally fails in

education.

Bye now

A. Ramani