5th lord 5th from the 5th house.

September 23, 2003

hi mike,

i am also aquarius lagna and lagna lord i.e. Saturn® placed in 6th

house with Moon. Ve+Ra placed in 9th House, Jup placed in 2nd House,

Ketu placed in 3rd House , Mars® placed in 4th House, Su+Me placed

in 11th House..

5th Lord,7th Lord,8th Lord place in 11th House..

4th Lord + 9th Lord placed in 9th House

3rd Lord placed in 4th House

2nd Lord + 11th Lord placed in 2nd House..

DOB : 22nd December 1975

TOB : 10:25 AM

POB : Hyderabad,Andhra Pradesh,India

what do u infer from my chart ?

thanks

abhijeet

vedic astrology, "mikefranc01"

<mikefranc01> wrote:

> Vani and Jayshree,

>

> My chart has a Aq lagna with the lagna lord in 12th. Ve/Ma/Me are

in

> 10 th. Su/Mo are in 9th. Rahu/Ketu in 5/11 and Ju is in 2nd.

>

> I always had ups and downs in my life akin to the planets blowing

hot

> and cold. First half of Sa/Me dasha was a complete disaster for

> health and career. Second half had a radical improvement in health

> and career but I was not very happy. With the advent of Sa/Ke

things

> changed drastically again. Job prospects improved and I got

relocated

> to a far of country in South America. I was already based away from

> home.

>

> I have noticed that Ju and Sa transits on 12 th house or transit

> aspects has brought about relocation/change in financial position

and

> career. Ketu bhukti has already proved beneficial. I would presume

> you would have similar benefits with Ke being in 11 th house in

both

> charts.

>

> Email me privately if you need to know more.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Mike

>

> vedic astrology, "Jayashree"

> <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Vani,

> >

> > Can u please post your dob? I'll send you my analysis, but I'm

only

> a

> > novice so it would be a general assessment and likely error-

prone.

> > Nevertheless, u can trust it to some extent.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Jayashree

> >

> > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh

> > <vani_sureshus> wrote:

> > > Hi Jayashree,

> > >

> > > I my case, being aquarius lagna, I am running Moon

> > > Dasha and Mercury Bukti.Moon is placed in the 11th

> > > along with Ketu and aspected by rahu from the 5th.

> > > Moon being a functional malefic for Aquarius lagna

> > > along with the nodes.

> > > My concern is that the next bhukti will be that of

> > > Ketu and I will start my ashtama shani as well.

> > > I have a strong saturn(lagna lord in lagnesh) aspected

> > > by venus in the 7th.

> > >

> > > Any comments on this

> > > vani

> > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Vani,

> > > >

> > > > I have heard about co-rulers of 5/9 with 6/8/12

> > > > giving mixed results,

> > > > such as kona lordship, then dusthana lordship, but I

> > > > did not state it

> > > > here. But I've also heard that Mercury's placement

> > > > in 8 is very good,

> > > > that is, Mercury actually does good as 8th lord in

> > > > 8. This might be

> > > > connected with a notion that I too feel as well as

> > > > heard that 8th

> > > > house is quite intellectual by nature and Mercury

> > > > being the natural

> > > > significator of intellect is placed well in 8? I'm

> > > > not sure of the

> > > > reasoning behind this notion, but I have heard in

> > > > general that a well-

> > > > placed 10th lord in 8 these days, according to the

> > > > 'desh/kal/patra'

> > > > principle gives way to intellectual professions.

> > > > Also, isn't 8th lord

> > > > in 8 a kind of VRY? I did notice several charts

> > > > where for Aquarius

> > > > lagna, if Mercury is somewhat connected with the

> > > > 10th house (owned by

> > > > Mars), then it most certainly gives rise to

> > > > Engineers.. I'm stating

> > > > these as a reasoning of why 8th lord in 8 being

> > > > Mercury might be

> > > > good. But also I have heard that the bhukti is

> > > > conditioned by the

> > > > dasha lord, that bhukti lord is somewhat limited in

> > > > capacity to do

> > > > strong good/bad results, ie completely overriding

> > > > the indications of

> > > > a strongly malefic/benefic dasha. So you should

> > > > really evaluate based

> > > > on where Moon gets placed, aspects on Moon, and

> > > > aspects/conjunctions

> > > > with Mercury to evaluate results.

> > > >

> > > > Kind regards,

> > > >

> > > > Jayashree

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh

> > > > <vani_sureshus> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the

> > > > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th

> > > > itself

> > > > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna

> > > > lord

> > > > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that

> > > > the

> > > > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the

> > > > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I

> > > > > should be worried about?

> > > > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury

> > > > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now.

> > > > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too,

> > > > since

> > > > > > I have the

> > > > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for

> > > > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th

> > > > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > Vimsottari, I also

> > > > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally

> > > > > > Atmakarak in my chart

> > > > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant

> > > > > > issues/happenings that I faced

> > > > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > father/religion/residence in foreign

> > > > land/foreign

> > > > > > education (higher

> > > > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage

> > > > (indicative

> > > > > > of connection with

> > > > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As

> > > > stated

> > > > > > by Mr. Kumaria,

> > > > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed

> > > > > > with a loving

> > > > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed

> > > > did

> > > > > > some major good

> > > > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha)

> > > > and

> > > > > > had troubles of

> > > > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the

> > > > first

> > > > > > half of Mercury's

> > > > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting

> > > > quite

> > > > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period

> > > > -

> > > > > > this configuration

> > > > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual

> > > > person.

> > > > > > Then Mercury saw

> > > > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also

> > > > > > blessing with happy

> > > > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was

> > > > followed

> > > > > > by a period of

> > > > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi,

> > > > and

> > > > > > then gave a first

> > > > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also

> > > > have

> > > > > > earned very well

> > > > > > always, there has been no period of

> > > > apprenticeship

> > > > > > or mentoring I've

> > > > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and

> > > > good

> > > > > > pay right from

> > > > > > the start, though despite this professionally I

> > > > was

> > > > > > not too satisfied

> > > > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I

> > > > had

> > > > > > very conjugal

> > > > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly

> > > > > > strained at one time,

> > > > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't

> > > > affect

> > > > > > my employment

> > > > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled

> > > > > > abroad for higher

> > > > > > studies and get started with excellent grades.

> > > > So

> > > > > > from this, it is

> > > > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been

> > > > > > outwardly extremely

> > > > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th

> > > > house)

> > > > > > so that I was

> > > > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I

> > > > > > filled with

> > > > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies

> > > > (9th

> > > > > > house placement

> > > > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in

> > > > general

> > > > > > state due to

> > > > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that

> > > > > > Venus is weak, I

> > > > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable

> > > > > > astrologers that Venus's

> > > > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it

> > > > is

> > > > > > indeed very good

> > > > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong

> > > > > > Jupiter in a kendra

> > > > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by

> > > > Navamsa

> > > > > > lagnesh Jupiter.

> > > > > > I have also always had significations of strong

> > > > > > Venus in Kendra,

> > > > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several

> > > > > > other factors

> > > > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to

> > > > > > state the role of

> > > > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results

> > > > with

> > > > > > respect to the

> > > > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jayashree

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh

> > > > > > Mohan Kumaria"

> > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but

> > > > when

> > > > > > you see BPHS,

> > > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in

> > > > the

> > > > > > 9th house, the

> > > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a

> > > > > > heterodox. He will be

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal

> > > > other's

> > > > > > wealth". How

> > > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say

> > > > > > that for Simha

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

September 24, 2003

Dear KPK,

Please see my answers below. Regards. RMK

vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

<kpkanitkar> wrote:

> Hello Rajesh Ji

> Thank you for your observation. I have Mars and Sun in Libra in

Rashi

> chart and not Mars and Sat in Libra as you mentioned.

RMK: Yes this is a typing mistake.But it does not change anything

reagrding your chart... The principle is that Mars(lagna lord of D60)

and Sun(Atamkaraka) carry the tapaswi yoga(and other yogas, if any)

from last life to this life. This is an imp. key concept here.

Also Can you

> explain how ketu have drushti on venus in rashi chart. Ketu has

> drushti on Rashi of venus and atmakaraka.

RMK:we are talking about rashi dristis here since Ketu is in Gemini

and Venus is in virgo. Dual signs aspect each other by rashi drsitis

and the planets placed in such rashis also aspect each other.

But yes some astrologers

> have told me I have Tapaswi Yoga and It will get activated in Sat

> Mahadasha. I will either do research in spiritual subjects or

> astrology or I will help many needy people astrologically. I am not

> sure how fate is going to take me on that path. But yes I have

strong

> passion for astrology and philosophy. And I Wish to do some

research

> in these subjects and help the people and do good for people. I am

> extreamly hard working but since I am running Jup mahadasha I am

not

> able to put all my efforts to my passion. May God help me so that I

> can go ahead and be useful to people and society.

>

> You can also observe my atmakaraka, moon, Venus and

> Sat, Ascendant and even rahu and ketu all planets are very close

and

> almost very close to the ascendant degrees in each rashi. Is it

> really good? Also My D-9 has Ketu alone in 10th house and In RAhsi

> chart also Ketu alone in 10th house. How to analyse suche

independent

> Ketu?

RMK: this is a separate topic and not related to this discussion. i

have no idea, may be you need to do more deeper research on different

placements of Ketu.

>

> Regards

> KPK

>

> vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria"

> <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > Dear KPK Ji, Well just had a quick look.... you have a tapaswi

yoga

> > in D-60(your last life), where Saturn and Venus are in cojunction

> ln

> > Leo in 10th house (along with Mars) and Ketu has Rashi Dristi on

> > Saturn-Venus conjuncion. In this life's rashi chart, dispositor

of

> > Saturn is Venus and Ketu has rashi dristi on Venus. Also in D-60,

> Sun

> > is the dispositor of Saturn and Venus combination and being

> > Atamakarka carried over the tapaswi yoga from last life to this

> life.

> > ALso Mars, the Lagna Lord of D-60 is linked to this tapawsi yga

and

> > Mars and Saturn

>

> > are in conjunction again in Libra in Rashi chart.

> >

> > So both Sun(AK) and Mars carry over this yoga, which

theoretically

> > gets activated in saturn dasa, especially Saturn/Saturn to

> > Saturn/Venus period(better use Drig dasa here). So you will have

a

> > great tendency to become very spiritual in Shani Dasha and may

even

> > renounce this world. All the best. Regards. RMK.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> > <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Rajesh Ji

> > >

> > > Here are my details..

> > >

> > > 14 Nov 1972

> > > 4.22 am

> > > Pune India

> > >

> > > If you can see min my chart, Venus in Lagna debilited while

Moon

> in

> > > 5th in Capri and Sat in 9th Tau.

> > >

> > > My Lagna Virgo at 25.28 Degrees. While Venus is 23.32 degrees

in

> > > Virgo only. Moon in Capri at 25.10 Degrees while Sat in Tau at

> > 25.34

> > > degrees. Interesting thing is that All Ascndant Moon, Venus

and

> > Sat

> > > are in Nakshtra of Mars and Mars is in libra in 2nd house in

> > Nakshtra

> > > of Mars itself and Mars with Sun in Libra. Mars is malefic

> planet

> > > for Virgo ascendant.. So Will Sat dasha will make me more

> spiritual

> > > and cautious?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > KPK

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria"

> > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > Dear KPK ji

> > > > Well the degree of malificience of such planets when they own

a

> > > > kendra/trikona and also when they own 6th/8th/12th houses

> > > (especially

> > > > they are ver malefic, when the mooltrikona rashis of such

> planets

> > > > also fall in 6th/8th/12th houses and such planets are the

Lords

> > of

> > > > their mooltrikona rashis) has to be determined. So the

strength

> > and

> > > > placement of such planets and the strength, placement of

their

> > > > dispositors, as well as the planets in conjunction and other

> > yogas

> > > > involved have to be considered. The detailed explanation will

> > > require

> > > > chart by chart analysis(the lord of mahadasas are also

critical

> > for

> > > > such analysis, but all such planets create havoc financially

> and

> > > > ofcourse there is no harm beocming spriritual during such

> periods

> > > to

> > > > maintain confidence in the Divine Providence) and I have

> already

> > > > generalized the known results.

> > > >

> > > > In your case, Venus beng the dispoistor of Saturn and other

> > planets

> > > > affecting Saturn will provide the key to the degree of

> > > > maleficience...anyway you already know some results now and

can

> > > > become cautious when Saturn periods come.

> > > > All the best and regards.

> > > > RMK

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> > > > <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Rajesh Ji

> > > > > Your answer is very interesting and it is really a good

> > > > explaination.

> > > > >

> > > > > Virgo Lagna also have Sat as 5th lord and 6th lord.

> > > > > If a chart has Virgo lagna with Sat in 9th , again as you

> said

> > > > mixed

> > > > > results can be observed.

> > > > > Since Sat having mooltrikona in Aqua, The results will be

> again

> > > > mixed

> > > > > as mooltrikon a falls in 6th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a small question here. After considering lordship,

if

> > > still

> > > > > 5th lord 5th from 5th house, does each planet indicate

> > spiritual

> > > > > growth in atleast half of thier dasha. Like Aqu asc, mer in

> > 9th,

> > > > Leo

> > > > > asc Jup in 9th, Sco ace Jup in 9th , Virgo asc Jup in 9th,

> > there

> > > > must

> > > > > be different results for each. am I correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > KPK

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan

> Kumaria"

> > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see

> > BPHS,

> > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th

> house,

> > > the

> > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > the

> > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth".

> How

> > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for

> Simha

> > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house,

> which

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the final

> > judgment

> > > > may

> > > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's

> placement

> > > and

> > > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In

case

> > > Mars

> > > > is

> > > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga

yoga,

> > > then

> > > > > such

> > > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a

> dusth-

> > > > > sthana

> > > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part

of

> > > > > antardasa

> > > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part

> will

> > be

> > > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the

> > dustha-

> > > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic

of

> > > > > research)

> > > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses.

> > Since

> > > > > Lords

> > > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own

6th/8th/12th

> > > > houses,

> > > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and

> > extremely

> > > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people.

So

> > > > whether

> > > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon

the

> > 9th

> > > > > Lord's

> > > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives,

> > things

> > > > get

> > > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th

> Lord

> > > is

> > > > > also

> > > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively

good/bad

> > > halves

> > > > > of

> > > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and I

> will

> > > be

> > > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic.

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani"

> > > > > <raon1008>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Raj,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the

situation

> > > > > > > you have described.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So

5th

> > > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is

> placed

> > in.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns

> > PoorvaPunya,

> > > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and

> Mantras

> > > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,

spirituality,

> > > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land ,

> > > > > > > foreign trips.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with

> Jupiter,

> > > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary

> > > > > > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual

> > > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected

> > > > > > > to Jupiter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be

> > > > > > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in

> the

> > > > > > > 5th from the 5th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and

> > Leanred

> > > > > > > Members to correct me if I am wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Raghunadha Rao.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish

Vidyarthi

> > > > > > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Respected Gurus,

> > > > > > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is

> > > > > > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th

> > > > > > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in

> > > > > > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid

> > > > > > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses

> > > > > > > > like 9th, 10th etc..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > > > > > > Raj

> > > > > > > >

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September 24, 2003

Hello Rajesh ji

Thank for your reply.

I will study further about Tapswi yoga.

Also You are right about Rahsi dushti.

I will also do some more research on Ketu effects.

Thanks and regards

KPK

vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> Dear KPK,

> Please see my answers below. Regards. RMK

> vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > Hello Rajesh Ji

> > Thank you for your observation. I have Mars and Sun in Libra in

> Rashi

> > chart and not Mars and Sat in Libra as you mentioned.

>

> RMK: Yes this is a typing mistake.But it does not change anything

> reagrding your chart... The principle is that Mars(lagna lord of

D60)

> and Sun(Atamkaraka) carry the tapaswi yoga(and other yogas, if any)

> from last life to this life. This is an imp. key concept here.

>

> Also Can you

> > explain how ketu have drushti on venus in rashi chart. Ketu has

> > drushti on Rashi of venus and atmakaraka.

>

> RMK:we are talking about rashi dristis here since Ketu is in Gemini

> and Venus is in virgo. Dual signs aspect each other by rashi

drsitis

> and the planets placed in such rashis also aspect each other.

>

> But yes some astrologers

> > have told me I have Tapaswi Yoga and It will get activated in Sat

> > Mahadasha. I will either do research in spiritual subjects or

> > astrology or I will help many needy people astrologically. I am

not

> > sure how fate is going to take me on that path. But yes I have

> strong

> > passion for astrology and philosophy. And I Wish to do some

> research

> > in these subjects and help the people and do good for people. I

am

> > extreamly hard working but since I am running Jup mahadasha I am

> not

> > able to put all my efforts to my passion. May God help me so that

I

> > can go ahead and be useful to people and society.

> >

> > You can also observe my atmakaraka, moon, Venus and

> > Sat, Ascendant and even rahu and ketu all planets are very close

> and

> > almost very close to the ascendant degrees in each rashi. Is it

> > really good? Also My D-9 has Ketu alone in 10th house and In

RAhsi

> > chart also Ketu alone in 10th house. How to analyse suche

> independent

> > Ketu?

>

> RMK: this is a separate topic and not related to this discussion. i

> have no idea, may be you need to do more deeper research on

different

> placements of Ketu.

> >

> > Regards

> > KPK

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria"

> > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > Dear KPK Ji, Well just had a quick look.... you have a tapaswi

> yoga

> > > in D-60(your last life), where Saturn and Venus are in

cojunction

> > ln

> > > Leo in 10th house (along with Mars) and Ketu has Rashi Dristi

on

> > > Saturn-Venus conjuncion. In this life's rashi chart,

dispositor

> of

> > > Saturn is Venus and Ketu has rashi dristi on Venus. Also in D-

60,

> > Sun

> > > is the dispositor of Saturn and Venus combination and being

> > > Atamakarka carried over the tapaswi yoga from last life to this

> > life.

> > > ALso Mars, the Lagna Lord of D-60 is linked to this tapawsi yga

> and

> > > Mars and Saturn

> >

> > > are in conjunction again in Libra in Rashi chart.

> > >

> > > So both Sun(AK) and Mars carry over this yoga, which

> theoretically

> > > gets activated in saturn dasa, especially Saturn/Saturn to

> > > Saturn/Venus period(better use Drig dasa here). So you will

have

> a

> > > great tendency to become very spiritual in Shani Dasha and may

> even

> > > renounce this world. All the best. Regards. RMK.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> > > <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Rajesh Ji

> > > >

> > > > Here are my details..

> > > >

> > > > 14 Nov 1972

> > > > 4.22 am

> > > > Pune India

> > > >

> > > > If you can see min my chart, Venus in Lagna debilited while

> Moon

> > in

> > > > 5th in Capri and Sat in 9th Tau.

> > > >

> > > > My Lagna Virgo at 25.28 Degrees. While Venus is 23.32 degrees

> in

> > > > Virgo only. Moon in Capri at 25.10 Degrees while Sat in Tau

at

> > > 25.34

> > > > degrees. Interesting thing is that All Ascndant Moon, Venus

> and

> > > Sat

> > > > are in Nakshtra of Mars and Mars is in libra in 2nd house in

> > > Nakshtra

> > > > of Mars itself and Mars with Sun in Libra. Mars is malefic

> > planet

> > > > for Virgo ascendant.. So Will Sat dasha will make me more

> > spiritual

> > > > and cautious?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > KPK

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan

Kumaria"

> > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > Dear KPK ji

> > > > > Well the degree of malificience of such planets when they

own

> a

> > > > > kendra/trikona and also when they own 6th/8th/12th houses

> > > > (especially

> > > > > they are ver malefic, when the mooltrikona rashis of such

> > planets

> > > > > also fall in 6th/8th/12th houses and such planets are the

> Lords

> > > of

> > > > > their mooltrikona rashis) has to be determined. So the

> strength

> > > and

> > > > > placement of such planets and the strength, placement of

> their

> > > > > dispositors, as well as the planets in conjunction and

other

> > > yogas

> > > > > involved have to be considered. The detailed explanation

will

> > > > require

> > > > > chart by chart analysis(the lord of mahadasas are also

> critical

> > > for

> > > > > such analysis, but all such planets create havoc

financially

> > and

> > > > > ofcourse there is no harm beocming spriritual during such

> > periods

> > > > to

> > > > > maintain confidence in the Divine Providence) and I have

> > already

> > > > > generalized the known results.

> > > > >

> > > > > In your case, Venus beng the dispoistor of Saturn and other

> > > planets

> > > > > affecting Saturn will provide the key to the degree of

> > > > > maleficience...anyway you already know some results now and

> can

> > > > > become cautious when Saturn periods come.

> > > > > All the best and regards.

> > > > > RMK

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> > > > > <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Rajesh Ji

> > > > > > Your answer is very interesting and it is really a good

> > > > > explaination.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Virgo Lagna also have Sat as 5th lord and 6th lord.

> > > > > > If a chart has Virgo lagna with Sat in 9th , again as you

> > said

> > > > > mixed

> > > > > > results can be observed.

> > > > > > Since Sat having mooltrikona in Aqua, The results will be

> > again

> > > > > mixed

> > > > > > as mooltrikon a falls in 6th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a small question here. After considering lordship,

> if

> > > > still

> > > > > > 5th lord 5th from 5th house, does each planet indicate

> > > spiritual

> > > > > > growth in atleast half of thier dasha. Like Aqu asc, mer

in

> > > 9th,

> > > > > Leo

> > > > > > asc Jup in 9th, Sco ace Jup in 9th , Virgo asc Jup in

9th,

> > > there

> > > > > must

> > > > > > be different results for each. am I correct?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > KPK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan

> > Kumaria"

> > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you

see

> > > BPHS,

> > > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th

> > house,

> > > > the

> > > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox.

He

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's

wealth".

> > How

> > > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for

> > Simha

> > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house,

> > which

> > > is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the final

> > > judgment

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's

> > placement

> > > > and

> > > > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In

> case

> > > > Mars

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga

> yoga,

> > > > then

> > > > > > such

> > > > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a

> > dusth-

> > > > > > sthana

> > > > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part

> of

> > > > > > antardasa

> > > > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part

> > will

> > > be

> > > > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon

the

> > > dustha-

> > > > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another

topic

> of

> > > > > > research)

> > > > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th

houses.

> > > Since

> > > > > > Lords

> > > > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own

> 6th/8th/12th

> > > > > houses,

> > > > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and

> > > extremely

> > > > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people.

> So

> > > > > whether

> > > > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon

> the

> > > 9th

> > > > > > Lord's

> > > > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives,

> > > things

> > > > > get

> > > > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again

8th

> > Lord

> > > > is

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively

> good/bad

> > > > halves

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and

I

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic.

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani"

> > > > > > <raon1008>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Raj,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the

> situation

> > > > > > > > you have described.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So

> 5th

> > > > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is

> > placed

> > > in.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns

> > > PoorvaPunya,

> > > > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and

> > Mantras

> > > > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,

> spirituality,

> > > > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land ,

> > > > > > > > foreign trips.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with

> > Jupiter,

> > > > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above

planetary

> > > > > > > > combination may be blessed towards

religious/spiritual

> > > > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is

connected

> > > > > > > > to Jupiter.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be

> > > > > > > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord

in

> > the

> > > > > > > > 5th from the 5th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and

> > > Leanred

> > > > > > > > Members to correct me if I am wrong.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Raghunadha Rao.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish

> Vidyarthi

> > > > > > > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus,

> > > > > > > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is

> > > > > > > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th

> > > > > > > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in

> > > > > > > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid

> > > > > > > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other

houses

> > > > > > > > > like 9th, 10th etc..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > > > > > > > Raj

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site

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September 24, 2003

Thanks Sharmaji,

Where I can find more reading material about yogakaraka or if

you can please explain in detail what kind of results will be

expected.

Thanks once again

Isha

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear??

> All three become yogakaraka as this is a conjoining of lords of

Trines with

> quadrant lords in a trine.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> isha_782002 [isha_782002]

> Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:40 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th house.

>

> Hi, I'm new to this group and trying to learn, I have a question

what

> happens for one that has simha lagan and the 5th and 8th lord

Jupiter

> is placed in the 9th with Mars and Saturn.

>

> Please provide help.

>

> Thanks

>

> vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > Hello Vani

> > it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own

house

> > which is also 5th lord

> > and Main dasha is of Moon.

> >

> > Regards

> > KPK

> > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh

> > <vani_sureshus> wrote:

> > > Dear Jayashree,

> > >

> > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the

> > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself

> > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord

> > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the

> > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the

> > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I

> > > should be worried about?

> > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury

> > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now.

> > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao,

> > > >

> > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since

> > > > I have the

> > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for

> > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th

> > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon

> > > > Vimsottari, I also

> > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally

> > > > Atmakarak in my chart

> > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant

> > > > issues/happenings that I faced

> > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house

> > > > -

> > > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign

> > > > education (higher

> > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative

> > > > of connection with

> > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated

> > > > by Mr. Kumaria,

> > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed

> > > > with a loving

> > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did

> > > > some major good

> > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and

> > > > had troubles of

> > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first

> > > > half of Mercury's

> > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite

> > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period -

> > > > this configuration

> > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person.

> > > > Then Mercury saw

> > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also

> > > > blessing with happy

> > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed

> > > > by a period of

> > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and

> > > > then gave a first

> > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have

> > > > earned very well

> > > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship

> > > > or mentoring I've

> > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good

> > > > pay right from

> > > > the start, though despite this professionally I was

> > > > not too satisfied

> > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had

> > > > very conjugal

> > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly

> > > > strained at one time,

> > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect

> > > > my employment

> > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled

> > > > abroad for higher

> > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So

> > > > from this, it is

> > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been

> > > > outwardly extremely

> > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house)

> > > > so that I was

> > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I

> > > > filled with

> > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th

> > > > house placement

> > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general

> > > > state due to

> > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that

> > > > Venus is weak, I

> > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable

> > > > astrologers that Venus's

> > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is

> > > > indeed very good

> > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong

> > > > Jupiter in a kendra

> > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa

> > > > lagnesh Jupiter.

> > > > I have also always had significations of strong

> > > > Venus in Kendra,

> > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several

> > > > other factors

> > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to

> > > > state the role of

> > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with

> > > > respect to the

> > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Jayashree

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh

> > > > Mohan Kumaria"

> > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when

> > > > you see BPHS,

> > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the

> > > > 9th house, the

> > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a

> > > > heterodox. He will be

> > > > the

> > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's

> > > > wealth". How

> > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say

> > > > that for Simha

> > > > Lagna,

> > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.

> > > > >

> > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th

> > > > house, which is the

> > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the

> > > > final judgment may

> > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's

> > > > placement and

> > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha

> > > > Lagna. In case Mars is

> > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have

> > > > NeechBhanga yoga, then

> > > > such

> > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna

> > > > people.

> > > > >

> > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona

> > > > and a dusth-

> > > > sthana

> > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first

> > > > part of

> > > > antardasa

> > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second

> > > > part will be

> > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending

> > > > upon the dustha-

> > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another

> > > > topic of

> > > > research)

> > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th

> > > > houses. Since

> > > > Lords

> > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own

> > > > 6th/8th/12th houses,

> > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half

> > > > and extremely

> > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna

> > > > people. So whether

> > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend

> > > > upon the 9th

> > > > Lord's

> > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house

> > > > perspectives, things get

> > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then

> > > > again 8th Lord is

> > > > also

> > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively

> > > > good/bad halves

> > > > of

> > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here

> > > > and I will be

> > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such

> > > > topic.

> > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao

> > > > Nemani"

> > > > <raon1008>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Raj,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the

> > > > situation

> > > > > > you have described.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is

> > > > Jupiter. So 5th

> > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord

> > > > is placed in.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns

> > > > PoorvaPunya,

> > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion

> > > > and Mantras

> > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,

> > > > spirituality,

> > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign

> > > > land ,

> > > > > > foreign trips.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together

> > > > with Jupiter,

> > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above

> > > > planetary

> > > > > > combination may be blessed towards

> > > > religious/spiritual

> > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is

> > > > connected

> > > > > > to Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

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Dear Isha,

Let me attempt to answer to your question:

A planet that is lord of Kendra (1,4,7,10th houses)

as well as Kona(1, 5, 9th houses) becomes a Yogakarka planet.

E.g. Saturn for Taurus Lagna, lord of 9 and 10.

Saturn also for Libra lagna, lord of 4 and 5 and

Mars for Leo, lord of 4 and 9.

For a detailed discussion, you may refer to Brihat Parasara

Hora Sastram or any other standard Text book.

Hope this of a little help to you.

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

vedic astrology, "isha_782002"

<isha_782002> wrote:

> Thanks Sharmaji,

> Where I can find more reading material about yogakaraka or if

> you can please explain in detail what kind of results will be

> expected.

>

> Thanks once again

> Isha

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear??

> > All three become yogakaraka as this is a conjoining of lords of

> Trines with

> > quadrant lords in a trine.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > isha_782002 [isha_782002]

> > Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:40 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th house.

> >

> > Hi, I'm new to this group and trying to learn, I have a

question

> what

> > happens for one that has simha lagan and the 5th and 8th lord

> Jupiter

> > is placed in the 9th with Mars and Saturn.

> >

> > Please provide help.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> > <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > > Hello Vani

> > > it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own

> house

> > > which is also 5th lord

> > > and Main dasha is of Moon.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > KPK

> > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh

> > > <vani_sureshus> wrote:

> > > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > >

> > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the

> > > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself

> > > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord

> > > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the

> > > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the

> > > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I

> > > > should be worried about?

> > > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury

> > > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now.

> > > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao,

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since

> > > > > I have the

> > > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for

> > > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th

> > > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon

> > > > > Vimsottari, I also

> > > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally

> > > > > Atmakarak in my chart

> > > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant

> > > > > issues/happenings that I faced

> > > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house

> > > > > -

> > > > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign

> > > > > education (higher

> > > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative

> > > > > of connection with

> > > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated

> > > > > by Mr. Kumaria,

> > > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed

> > > > > with a loving

> > > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did

> > > > > some major good

> > > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and

> > > > > had troubles of

> > > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first

> > > > > half of Mercury's

> > > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite

> > > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period -

> > > > > this configuration

> > > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person.

> > > > > Then Mercury saw

> > > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also

> > > > > blessing with happy

> > > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed

> > > > > by a period of

> > > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and

> > > > > then gave a first

> > > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have

> > > > > earned very well

> > > > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship

> > > > > or mentoring I've

> > > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good

> > > > > pay right from

> > > > > the start, though despite this professionally I was

> > > > > not too satisfied

> > > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had

> > > > > very conjugal

> > > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly

> > > > > strained at one time,

> > > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect

> > > > > my employment

> > > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled

> > > > > abroad for higher

> > > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So

> > > > > from this, it is

> > > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been

> > > > > outwardly extremely

> > > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house)

> > > > > so that I was

> > > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I

> > > > > filled with

> > > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th

> > > > > house placement

> > > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general

> > > > > state due to

> > > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that

> > > > > Venus is weak, I

> > > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable

> > > > > astrologers that Venus's

> > > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is

> > > > > indeed very good

> > > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong

> > > > > Jupiter in a kendra

> > > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa

> > > > > lagnesh Jupiter.

> > > > > I have also always had significations of strong

> > > > > Venus in Kendra,

> > > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several

> > > > > other factors

> > > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to

> > > > > state the role of

> > > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with

> > > > > respect to the

> > > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Jayashree

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh

> > > > > Mohan Kumaria"

> > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when

> > > > > you see BPHS,

> > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the

> > > > > 9th house, the

> > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a

> > > > > heterodox. He will be

> > > > > the

> > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's

> > > > > wealth". How

> > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say

> > > > > that for Simha

> > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th

> > > > > house, which is the

> > > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the

> > > > > final judgment may

> > > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's

> > > > > placement and

> > > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha

> > > > > Lagna. In case Mars is

> > > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have

> > > > > NeechBhanga yoga, then

> > > > > such

> > > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna

> > > > > people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona

> > > > > and a dusth-

> > > > > sthana

> > > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first

> > > > > part of

> > > > > antardasa

> > > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second

> > > > > part will be

> > > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending

> > > > > upon the dustha-

> > > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another

> > > > > topic of

> > > > > research)

> > > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th

> > > > > houses. Since

> > > > > Lords

> > > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own

> > > > > 6th/8th/12th houses,

> > > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half

> > > > > and extremely

> > > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna

> > > > > people. So whether

> > > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend

> > > > > upon the 9th

> > > > > Lord's

> > > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house

> > > > > perspectives, things get

> > > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then

> > > > > again 8th Lord is

> > > > > also

> > > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively

> > > > > good/bad halves

> > > > > of

> > > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here

> > > > > and I will be

> > > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such

> > > > > topic.

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao

> > > > > Nemani"

> > > > > <raon1008>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Raj,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the

> > > > > situation

> > > > > > > you have described.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is

> > > > > Jupiter. So 5th

> > > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord

> > > > > is placed in.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns

> > > > > PoorvaPunya,

> > > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion

> > > > > and Mantras

> > > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,

> > > > > spirituality,

> > > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign

> > > > > land ,

> > > > > > > foreign trips.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together

> > > > > with Jupiter,

> > > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above

> > > > > planetary

> > > > > > > combination may be blessed towards

> > > > > religious/spiritual

> > > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is

> > > > > connected

> > > > > > > to Jupiter.

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September 25, 2003

Thanks for your reply.

vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008>

wrote:

> Dear Isha,

>

> Let me attempt to answer to your question:

>

> A planet that is lord of Kendra (1,4,7,10th houses)

> as well as Kona(1, 5, 9th houses) becomes a Yogakarka planet.

>

> E.g. Saturn for Taurus Lagna, lord of 9 and 10.

> Saturn also for Libra lagna, lord of 4 and 5 and

> Mars for Leo, lord of 4 and 9.

>

> For a detailed discussion, you may refer to Brihat Parasara

> Hora Sastram or any other standard Text book.

>

> Hope this of a little help to you.

>

> Regards

> Raghunadha Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "isha_782002"

> <isha_782002> wrote:

> > Thanks Sharmaji,

> > Where I can find more reading material about yogakaraka or if

> > you can please explain in detail what kind of results will be

> > expected.

> >

> > Thanks once again

> > Isha

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > Dear??

> > > All three become yogakaraka as this is a conjoining of lords of

> > Trines with

> > > quadrant lords in a trine.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > isha_782002 [isha_782002]

> > > Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:40 PM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th

house.

> > >

> > > Hi, I'm new to this group and trying to learn, I have a

> question

> > what

> > > happens for one that has simha lagan and the 5th and 8th lord

> > Jupiter

> > > is placed in the 9th with Mars and Saturn.

> > >

> > > Please provide help.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> > > <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > > > Hello Vani

> > > > it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own

> > house

> > > > which is also 5th lord

> > > > and Main dasha is of Moon.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > KPK

> > > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh

> > > > <vani_sureshus> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the

> > > > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself

> > > > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord

> > > > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the

> > > > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the

> > > > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I

> > > > > should be worried about?

> > > > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury

> > > > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now.

> > > > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since

> > > > > > I have the

> > > > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for

> > > > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th

> > > > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon

> > > > > > Vimsottari, I also

> > > > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally

> > > > > > Atmakarak in my chart

> > > > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant

> > > > > > issues/happenings that I faced

> > > > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign

> > > > > > education (higher

> > > > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative

> > > > > > of connection with

> > > > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated

> > > > > > by Mr. Kumaria,

> > > > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed

> > > > > > with a loving

> > > > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did

> > > > > > some major good

> > > > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and

> > > > > > had troubles of

> > > > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first

> > > > > > half of Mercury's

> > > > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite

> > > > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period -

> > > > > > this configuration

> > > > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person.

> > > > > > Then Mercury saw

> > > > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also

> > > > > > blessing with happy

> > > > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed

> > > > > > by a period of

> > > > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and

> > > > > > then gave a first

> > > > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have

> > > > > > earned very well

> > > > > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship

> > > > > > or mentoring I've

> > > > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good

> > > > > > pay right from

> > > > > > the start, though despite this professionally I was

> > > > > > not too satisfied

> > > > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had

> > > > > > very conjugal

> > > > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly

> > > > > > strained at one time,

> > > > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect

> > > > > > my employment

> > > > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled

> > > > > > abroad for higher

> > > > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So

> > > > > > from this, it is

> > > > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been

> > > > > > outwardly extremely

> > > > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house)

> > > > > > so that I was

> > > > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I

> > > > > > filled with

> > > > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th

> > > > > > house placement

> > > > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general

> > > > > > state due to

> > > > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that

> > > > > > Venus is weak, I

> > > > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable

> > > > > > astrologers that Venus's

> > > > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is

> > > > > > indeed very good

> > > > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong

> > > > > > Jupiter in a kendra

> > > > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa

> > > > > > lagnesh Jupiter.

> > > > > > I have also always had significations of strong

> > > > > > Venus in Kendra,

> > > > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several

> > > > > > other factors

> > > > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to

> > > > > > state the role of

> > > > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with

> > > > > > respect to the

> > > > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jayashree

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh

> > > > > > Mohan Kumaria"

> > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when

> > > > > > you see BPHS,

> > > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the

> > > > > > 9th house, the

> > > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a

> > > > > > heterodox. He will be

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's

> > > > > > wealth". How

> > > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say

> > > > > > that for Simha

> > > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th

> > > > > > house, which is the

> > > > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the

> > > > > > final judgment may

> > > > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's

> > > > > > placement and

> > > > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha

> > > > > > Lagna. In case Mars is

> > > > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have

> > > > > > NeechBhanga yoga, then

> > > > > > such

> > > > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna

> > > > > > people.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona

> > > > > > and a dusth-

> > > > > > sthana

> > > > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first

> > > > > > part of

> > > > > > antardasa

> > > > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second

> > > > > > part will be

> > > > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending

> > > > > > upon the dustha-

> > > > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another

> > > > > > topic of

> > > > > > research)

> > > > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th

> > > > > > houses. Since

> > > > > > Lords

> > > > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own

> > > > > > 6th/8th/12th houses,

> > > > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half

> > > > > > and extremely

> > > > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna

> > > > > > people. So whether

> > > > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend

> > > > > > upon the 9th

> > > > > > Lord's

> > > > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house

> > > > > > perspectives, things get

> > > > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then

> > > > > > again 8th Lord is

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively

> > > > > > good/bad halves

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here

> > > > > > and I will be

> > > > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such

> > > > > > topic.

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao

> > > > > > Nemani"

> > > > > > <raon1008>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Raj,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the

> > > > > > situation

> > > > > > > > you have described.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is

> > > > > > Jupiter. So 5th

> > > > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord

> > > > > > is placed in.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns

> > > > > > PoorvaPunya,

> > > > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion

> > > > > > and Mantras

> > > > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,

> > > > > > spirituality,

> > > > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign

> > > > > > land ,

> > > > > > > > foreign trips.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together

> > > > > > with Jupiter,

> > > > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above

> > > > > > planetary

> > > > > > > > combination may be blessed towards

> > > > > > religious/spiritual

> > > > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is

> > > > > > connected

> > > > > > > > to Jupiter.

> > > > > >

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September 25, 2003

Dear Isha,

Read BPHS and Laghuparashari to understand the concept.

Chandrashekhar.

isha_782002 [isha_782002 ]Sent:

Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:33 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th house.Thanks Sharmaji, Where

I can find more reading material about yogakaraka or if you can please explain

in detail what kind of results will be expected.Thanks once againIsha--- In

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:>

Dear??> All three become yogakaraka as this is a conjoining of lords of Trines

with> quadrant lords in a trine.> Chandrashekhar.> -----Original

Message-----> isha_782002 [isha_782002]> Tuesday,

September 23, 2003 10:40 PM> vedic astrology> Subject:

[vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th house.> > > Hi, I'm new to

this group and trying to learn, I have a question what> happens for one that

has simha lagan and the 5th and 8th lord Jupiter> is placed in the 9th with

Mars and Saturn.> > Please provide help.> > Thanks> > --- In

vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"> <kpkanitkar> wrote:> >

Hello Vani> > it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own

house> > which is also 5th lord> > and Main dasha is of Moon.> >> >

Regards> > KPK> > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh> >

<vani_sureshus> wrote:> > > Dear Jayashree,> > >> > > I am also an

aquarius lagna with Mercury being the> > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury

in the 8th itself> > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord>

> > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the> > > first half

of the antardasha will be good and the> > > second half will be

troublesome.Is it something I> > > should be worried about?> > > I am

undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury> > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord)

right now.> > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > > > Dear

Members Rajesh and Rao,> > > >> > > > I would like to contribute in this

thread too, since> > > > I have the> > > > stated combination of 5th/8th

lord Mercury for> > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th> > > > house with 9th lord

Venus in 10th house. From Moon> > > > Vimsottari, I also> > > > crossed

Mercury dasha which is additionally> > > > Atmakarak in my chart> > > >

placed in 9th house. The predominant> > > > issues/happenings that I faced>

> > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house> > > > -> > > >

father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign> > > > education (higher>

> > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative> > > > of connection

with> > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated> > > > by

Mr. Kumaria,> > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed> > > >

with a loving> > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did> >

> > some major good> > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha)

and> > > > had troubles of> > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and

the first> > > > half of Mercury's> > > > dasha dealth with this issue and

me getting quite> > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period ->

> > > this configuration> > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual

person.> > > > Then Mercury saw> > > > me getting married to a wealthier

spouse, also> > > > blessing with happy> > > > marriage, and the birth of

my son. This was followed> > > > by a period of> > > > sickness, which was

also the mid of Sade-sathi, and> > > > then gave a first> > > > job. It is

very interesting to note that I also have> > > > earned very well> > > >

always, there has been no period of apprenticeship> > > > or mentoring I've>

> > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good> > > > pay right

from> > > > the start, though despite this professionally I was> > > > not

too satisfied> > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had> >

> > very conjugal> > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly> >

> > strained at one time,> > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't

affect> > > > my employment> > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me

enrolled> > > > abroad for higher> > > > studies and get started with

excellent grades. So> > > > from this, it is> > > > really clear Mercury's

role in my chart has been> > > > outwardly extremely> > > > good (5th) but

with some internal sorrow (8th house)> > > > so that I was> > > > always

having an unexplainable emptiness that I> > > > filled with> > > >

spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th> > > > house placement> >

> > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general> > > > state due to> >

> > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that> > > > Venus is weak, I>

> > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable> > > > astrologers that

Venus's> > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is> > > >

indeed very good> > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong> >

> > Jupiter in a kendra> > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by

Navamsa> > > > lagnesh Jupiter.> > > > I have also always had

significations of strong> > > > Venus in Kendra,> > > > since I'm quite

excellent with arts, and several> > > > other factors> > > > related to

good Venus in kendra - adding this to> > > > state the role of> > > >

Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with> > > > respect to the> >

> > placement and strength of dispositor Venus.> > > >> > > > Regards,> >

> >> > > > Jayashree> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Rajesh> > > > Mohan Kumaria"> > > >

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > > > Dear Rao,> > > > > Well it appears

that your logic correct but when> > > > you see BPHS,> > > > > Parasara

states that " If the 8th Lord is in the> > > > 9th house, the> > > > >

native will be a betrayer of religion and a> > > > heterodox. He will be> >

> > the> > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's> > > >

wealth". How> > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say> > > >

that for Simha> > > > Lagna,> > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.>

> > > >> > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th> > > >

house, which is the> > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the>

> > > final judgment may> > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter

i.e, Mars's> > > > placement and> > > > > strength, since Mars is

yogakaraka for Simha> > > > Lagna. In case Mars is> > > > > in Cancer in

12th house and does not have> > > > NeechBhanga yoga, then> > > > such> >

> > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna> > > > people.> > > >

>> > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona> > > > and a

dusth-> > > > sthana> > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas

i.e,,first> > > > part of> > > > antardasa> > > > > will give the results

of kendra/trikona and second> > > > part will be> > > > > extremely malefic

and dangerous type depending> > > > upon the dustha-> > > > > sthana owned

by them or vice-versa(this is another> > > > topic of> > > > research)> >

> > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th> > > > houses. Since>

> > > Lords> > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own> > > >

6th/8th/12th houses,> > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first

half> > > > and extremely> > > > > tough/malefic in second half for

Aquarius lagna> > > > people. So whether> > > > > 8th Lord is really good

in 9th house, will depend> > > > upon the 9th> > > > Lord's> > > > >

position and strength. From the 9th house> > > > perspectives, things get>

> > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then> > > > again 8th Lord

is> > > > also> > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively>

> > > good/bad halves> > > > of> > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind

boggling manner.> > > > >> > > > > I think you have reached an important

mystery here> > > > and I will be> > > > > anxious to learn more as things

proceed on such> > > > topic.> > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK> > > > >>

> > > >> > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao> > > >

Nemani"> > > > <raon1008>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Raj,> >

> > > >> > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the> > > >

situation> > > > > > you have described.> > > > > >> > > > > > Simha

Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is> > > > Jupiter. So 5th> > > > > > from

5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord> > > > is placed in.> > > > >

>> > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns> > > >

PoorvaPunya,> > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion> >

> > and Mantras> > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,> > >

> spirituality,> > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign>

> > > land ,> > > > > > foreign trips.> > > > > >> > > > > > So if I

connect the above two pieces together> > > > with Jupiter,> > > > > > I

could see that the native who had the above> > > > planetary> > > > > >

combination may be blessed towards> > > > religious/spiritual> > > > > >

pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is> > > > connected> > > > > > to

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Hi Isha

U can get BHPS.ZIP in Files section of this group

or u can read it online at

http://www.jyotishvidya.com/ch1.htm

http://www.mailerindia.com/astrology/

Regards

KPK

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Isha,

> Read BPHS and Laghuparashari to understand the concept.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> isha_782002 [isha_782002]

> Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:33 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th house.

>

> Thanks Sharmaji,

> Where I can find more reading material about yogakaraka or if

> you can please explain in detail what kind of results will be

> expected.

>

> Thanks once again

> Isha

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear??

> > All three become yogakaraka as this is a conjoining of lords of

> Trines with

> > quadrant lords in a trine.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > isha_782002 [isha_782002]

> > Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:40 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th

house.

> >

> > Hi, I'm new to this group and trying to learn, I have a

question

> what

> > happens for one that has simha lagan and the 5th and 8th lord

> Jupiter

> > is placed in the 9th with Mars and Saturn.

> >

> > Please provide help.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar"

> > <kpkanitkar> wrote:

> > > Hello Vani

> > > it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own

> house

> > > which is also 5th lord

> > > and Main dasha is of Moon.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > KPK

> > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh

> > > <vani_sureshus> wrote:

> > > > Dear Jayashree,

> > > >

> > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the

> > > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself

> > > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord

> > > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the

> > > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the

> > > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I

> > > > should be worried about?

> > > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury

> > > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now.

> > > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao,

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since

> > > > > I have the

> > > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for

> > > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th

> > > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon

> > > > > Vimsottari, I also

> > > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally

> > > > > Atmakarak in my chart

> > > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant

> > > > > issues/happenings that I faced

> > > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house

> > > > > -

> > > > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign

> > > > > education (higher

> > > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative

> > > > > of connection with

> > > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated

> > > > > by Mr. Kumaria,

> > > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed

> > > > > with a loving

> > > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did

> > > > > some major good

> > > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and

> > > > > had troubles of

> > > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first

> > > > > half of Mercury's

> > > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite

> > > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period -

> > > > > this configuration

> > > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person.

> > > > > Then Mercury saw

> > > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also

> > > > > blessing with happy

> > > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed

> > > > > by a period of

> > > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and

> > > > > then gave a first

> > > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have

> > > > > earned very well

> > > > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship

> > > > > or mentoring I've

> > > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good

> > > > > pay right from

> > > > > the start, though despite this professionally I was

> > > > > not too satisfied

> > > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had

> > > > > very conjugal

> > > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly

> > > > > strained at one time,

> > > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect

> > > > > my employment

> > > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled

> > > > > abroad for higher

> > > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So

> > > > > from this, it is

> > > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been

> > > > > outwardly extremely

> > > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house)

> > > > > so that I was

> > > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I

> > > > > filled with

> > > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th

> > > > > house placement

> > > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general

> > > > > state due to

> > > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that

> > > > > Venus is weak, I

> > > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable

> > > > > astrologers that Venus's

> > > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is

> > > > > indeed very good

> > > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong

> > > > > Jupiter in a kendra

> > > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa

> > > > > lagnesh Jupiter.

> > > > > I have also always had significations of strong

> > > > > Venus in Kendra,

> > > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several

> > > > > other factors

> > > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to

> > > > > state the role of

> > > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with

> > > > > respect to the

> > > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Jayashree

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh

> > > > > Mohan Kumaria"

> > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when

> > > > > you see BPHS,

> > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the

> > > > > 9th house, the

> > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a

> > > > > heterodox. He will be

> > > > > the

> > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's

> > > > > wealth". How

> > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say

> > > > > that for Simha

> > > > > Lagna,

> > > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th

> > > > > house, which is the

> > > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the

> > > > > final judgment may

> > > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's

> > > > > placement and

> > > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha

> > > > > Lagna. In case Mars is

> > > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have

> > > > > NeechBhanga yoga, then

> > > > > such

> > > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna

> > > > > people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona

> > > > > and a dusth-

> > > > > sthana

> > > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first

> > > > > part of

> > > > > antardasa

> > > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second

> > > > > part will be

> > > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending

> > > > > upon the dustha-

> > > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another

> > > > > topic of

> > > > > research)

> > > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th

> > > > > houses. Since

> > > > > Lords

> > > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own

> > > > > 6th/8th/12th houses,

> > > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half

> > > > > and extremely

> > > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna

> > > > > people. So whether

> > > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend

> > > > > upon the 9th

> > > > > Lord's

> > > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house

> > > > > perspectives, things get

> > > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then

> > > > > again 8th Lord is

> > > > > also

> > > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively

> > > > > good/bad halves

> > > > > of

> > > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here

> > > > > and I will be

> > > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such

> > > > > topic.

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao

> > > > > Nemani"

> > > > > <raon1008>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Raj,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the

> > > > > situation

> > > > > > > you have described.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is

> > > > > Jupiter. So 5th

> > > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord

> > > > > is placed in.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns

> > > > > PoorvaPunya,

> > > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion

> > > > > and Mantras

> > > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,

> > > > > spirituality,

> > > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign

> > > > > land ,

> > > > > > > foreign trips.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together

> > > > > with Jupiter,

> > > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above

> > > > > planetary

> > > > > > > combination may be blessed towards

> > > > > religious/spiritual

> > > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is

> > > > > connected

> > > > > > > to Jupiter.

> > > > >

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