Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Respected Gurus, I read an article on the internet saying that it is auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses like 9th, 10th etc.. Thanks in advance, Raj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Dear Raj, Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation you have described. Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , foreign trips. So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, I could see that the native who had the above planetary combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected to Jupiter. So it sounds like the article you have read may be mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th house. This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred Members to correct me if I am wrong. Regards Raghunadha Rao. vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > Respected Gurus, > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > Thanks in advance, > Raj > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Hello Ramani Ji I found it interesting topic. I also have sat my 5th lord fifth from fifth house. Virgo asc with Sat 5th lord in 9th in Tau. while my moon is in 5th itself. Does Sat is also planet which placed in 9th will cause spirituality , spiritual growth?I have Ketu in 10th? I will be having Sat mahadasha from 2012. Regards KPK vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> wrote: > Dear Raj, > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > you have described. > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > foreign trips. > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > to Jupiter. > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > 5th from the 5th house. > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao. > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > Respected Gurus, > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 One principle that my teacher shared with us is that any lord gone equal distance from the Bhava owned; ie 5th L 5 away in the 9th, 3rd Lord 3 away in the 5th, 6th Lord 6 away in the 11th...., this 'perpetuates' the evil or good of that Bhava owned. I personally have the 3rd Lord 3 away in the 5th, and the 5th Lord 5 away in the 9th...it seems to definately be a factor. Thanks, Peace- Ashwin Rao Nemani <raon1008 > wrote: Dear Raj,Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation you have described.Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in.Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , foreign trips.So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, I could see that the native who had the above planetary combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected to Jupiter.So it sounds like the article you have read may be mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th house.This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred Members to correct me if I am wrong.RegardsRaghunadha Rao.--- In vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote:> Respected Gurus,> I read an article on the internet saying that it is> auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th> house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in> Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid> statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses> like 9th, 10th etc..> > Thanks in advance,> Raj> > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Sorry I wanted to say this to Rao Nemani Ji And All KPK vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > Hello Ramani Ji > > I found it interesting topic. I also have sat my 5th lord fifth from > fifth house. Virgo asc with Sat 5th lord in 9th in Tau. while my moon > is in 5th itself. > Does Sat is also planet which placed in 9th will cause spirituality , > spiritual growth?I have Ketu in 10th? > > > I will be having Sat mahadasha from 2012. > > Regards > KPK > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> > wrote: > > Dear Raj, > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > you have described. > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > foreign trips. > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > to Jupiter. > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Regards > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > Respected Gurus, > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Dear Sir, May I add?. In Parasara horashastra it is said that if the 5th lord is in the 5th the native will have progeny if related to a benefic.There will be no issues,if malefic is related to the said 5th lord placed in the 5th. The 5th lord in the 5th however,makes one virtuous and dear to friends. With regards, Jagannathan. jagannathankr --- kpkanitkar <kpkanitkar wrote: Sorry I wanted to say this to Rao Nemani Ji And All KPK vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > Hello Ramani Ji > > I found it interesting topic. I also have sat my 5th lord fifth from > fifth house. Virgo asc with Sat 5th lord in 9th in Tau. while my moon > is in 5th itself. > Does Sat is also planet which placed in 9th will cause spirituality , > spiritual growth?I have Ketu in 10th? > > > I will be having Sat mahadasha from 2012. > > Regards > KPK > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> > wrote: > > Dear Raj, > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > you have described. > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > foreign trips. > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > to Jupiter. > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Regards > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > Respected Gurus, > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > Sponsor Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service. ===== Jagannathan . ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://.shaadi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Dear Rao, Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see BPHS, Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th house, the native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He will be the husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth". How Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for Simha Lagna, jupiter in 8th will promote religion. But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house, which is the house of death and transformations. I think the final judgment may depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's placement and strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In case Mars is in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga yoga, then such a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people. In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a dusth-sthana gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part of antardasa will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part will be extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the dustha- sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic of research) i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses. Since Lords of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own 6th/8th/12th houses, so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and extremely tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people. So whether 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon the 9th Lord's position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives, things get ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th Lord is also 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively good/bad halves of antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. I think you have reached an important mystery here and I will be anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic. Thanks and Regards. RMK vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> wrote: > Dear Raj, > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > you have described. > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > foreign trips. > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > to Jupiter. > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > 5th from the 5th house. > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao. > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > Respected Gurus, > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Raj, Look at it at this way.Lord of the 5th in 9th so Lord of one trine in another. This is a good yoga. Chandrashekhar. Jyotish Vidyarthi [jyotish_vidyarthi ]Tuesday, September 23, 2003 4:36 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] 5th lord 5th from the 5th house.Respected Gurus,I read an article on the internet saying that it isauspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5thhouse (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) inAries). Please advise whether this is a validstatement? If so is it true with Lords of other houseslike 9th, 10th etc..Thanks in advance,RajDo you ? SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design softwareArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hello Rajesh Ji Your answer is very interesting and it is really a good explaination. Virgo Lagna also have Sat as 5th lord and 6th lord. If a chart has Virgo lagna with Sat in 9th , again as you said mixed results can be observed. Since Sat having mooltrikona in Aqua, The results will be again mixed as mooltrikon a falls in 6th house. I have a small question here. After considering lordship, if still 5th lord 5th from 5th house, does each planet indicate spiritual growth in atleast half of thier dasha. Like Aqu asc, mer in 9th, Leo asc Jup in 9th, Sco ace Jup in 9th , Virgo asc Jup in 9th, there must be different results for each. am I correct? Regards KPK vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear Rao, > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see BPHS, > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th house, the > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He will be the > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth". How > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for Simha Lagna, > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house, which is the > house of death and transformations. I think the final judgment may > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's placement and > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In case Mars is > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga yoga, then such > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people. > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a dusth- sthana > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part of antardasa > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part will be > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the dustha- > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic of research) > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses. Since Lords > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own 6th/8th/12th houses, > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and extremely > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people. So whether > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon the 9th Lord's > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives, things get > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th Lord is also > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively good/bad halves of > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and I will be > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic. > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> > wrote: > > Dear Raj, > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > you have described. > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > foreign trips. > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > to Jupiter. > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Regards > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > Respected Gurus, > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, I would like to contribute in this thread too, since I have the stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for Aquarius lagna in 9th house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon Vimsottari, I also crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally Atmakarak in my chart placed in 9th house. The predominant issues/happenings that I faced while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house - father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign education (higher studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative of connection with Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated by Mr. Kumaria, the results were mixed - I have not been blessed with a loving father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did some major good things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and had troubles of the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first half of Mercury's dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite religious/philosophical a lot during this period - this configuration has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person. Then Mercury saw me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also blessing with happy marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed by a period of sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and then gave a first job. It is very interesting to note that I also have earned very well always, there has been no period of apprenticeship or mentoring I've had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good pay right from the start, though despite this professionally I was not too satisfied (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had very conjugal relationship, but that too became surprisingly strained at one time, towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect my employment though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled abroad for higher studies and get started with excellent grades. So from this, it is really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been outwardly extremely good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house) so that I was always having an unexplainable emptiness that I filled with spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th house placement with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general state due to Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that Venus is weak, I have recently heard from more knowledgeable astrologers that Venus's degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is indeed very good and strong in my chart, being placed with strong Jupiter in a kendra and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa lagnesh Jupiter. I have also always had significations of strong Venus in Kendra, since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several other factors related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to state the role of Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with respect to the placement and strength of dispositor Venus. Regards, Jayashree vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear Rao, > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see BPHS, > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th house, the > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He will be the > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth". How > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for Simha Lagna, > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house, which is the > house of death and transformations. I think the final judgment may > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's placement and > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In case Mars is > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga yoga, then such > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people. > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a dusth- sthana > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part of antardasa > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part will be > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the dustha- > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic of research) > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses. Since Lords > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own 6th/8th/12th houses, > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and extremely > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people. So whether > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon the 9th Lord's > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives, things get > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th Lord is also > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively good/bad halves of > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and I will be > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic. > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> > wrote: > > Dear Raj, > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > you have described. > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > foreign trips. > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > to Jupiter. > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Regards > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > Respected Gurus, > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Jayashree, I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the first half of the antardasha will be good and the second half will be troublesome.Is it something I should be worried about? I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi wrote: > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since > I have the > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > Aquarius lagna in 9th > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon > Vimsottari, I also > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > Atmakarak in my chart > placed in 9th house. The predominant > issues/happenings that I faced > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house > - > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign > education (higher > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative > of connection with > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated > by Mr. Kumaria, > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > with a loving > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did > some major good > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and > had troubles of > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first > half of Mercury's > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite > religious/philosophical a lot during this period - > this configuration > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person. > Then Mercury saw > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > blessing with happy > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed > by a period of > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and > then gave a first > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have > earned very well > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship > or mentoring I've > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good > pay right from > the start, though despite this professionally I was > not too satisfied > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had > very conjugal > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > strained at one time, > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect > my employment > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > abroad for higher > studies and get started with excellent grades. So > from this, it is > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > outwardly extremely > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house) > so that I was > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > filled with > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th > house placement > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general > state due to > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > Venus is weak, I > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > astrologers that Venus's > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is > indeed very good > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > Jupiter in a kendra > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa > lagnesh Jupiter. > I have also always had significations of strong > Venus in Kendra, > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > other factors > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > state the role of > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with > respect to the > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > Regards, > > Jayashree > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > Mohan Kumaria" > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear Rao, > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when > you see BPHS, > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the > 9th house, the > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > heterodox. He will be > the > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's > wealth". How > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > that for Simha > Lagna, > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th > house, which is the > > house of death and transformations. I think the > final judgment may > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's > placement and > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha > Lagna. In case Mars is > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have > NeechBhanga yoga, then > such > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna > people. > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona > and a dusth- > sthana > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first > part of > antardasa > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second > part will be > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending > upon the dustha- > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another > topic of > research) > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th > houses. Since > Lords > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own > 6th/8th/12th houses, > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half > and extremely > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna > people. So whether > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend > upon the 9th > Lord's > > position and strength. From the 9th house > perspectives, things get > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then > again 8th Lord is > also > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively > good/bad halves > of > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here > and I will be > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such > topic. > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao > Nemani" > <raon1008> > > wrote: > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the > situation > > > you have described. > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is > Jupiter. So 5th > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord > is placed in. > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns > PoorvaPunya, > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion > and Mantras > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, > spirituality, > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign > land , > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together > with Jupiter, > > > I could see that the native who had the above > planetary > > > combination may be blessed towards > religious/spiritual > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is > connected > > > to Jupiter. > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hello Vani it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own house which is also 5th lord and Main dasha is of Moon. Regards KPK vedic astrology, Vani Suresh <vani_sureshus> wrote: > Dear Jayashree, > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the > first half of the antardasha will be good and the > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I > should be worried about? > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since > > I have the > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon > > Vimsottari, I also > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > > Atmakarak in my chart > > placed in 9th house. The predominant > > issues/happenings that I faced > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house > > - > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign > > education (higher > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative > > of connection with > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > > with a loving > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did > > some major good > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and > > had troubles of > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first > > half of Mercury's > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period - > > this configuration > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person. > > Then Mercury saw > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > > blessing with happy > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed > > by a period of > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and > > then gave a first > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have > > earned very well > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship > > or mentoring I've > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good > > pay right from > > the start, though despite this professionally I was > > not too satisfied > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had > > very conjugal > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > > strained at one time, > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect > > my employment > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > > abroad for higher > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So > > from this, it is > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > > outwardly extremely > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house) > > so that I was > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > > filled with > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th > > house placement > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general > > state due to > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > > Venus is weak, I > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > > astrologers that Venus's > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is > > indeed very good > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > > Jupiter in a kendra > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > I have also always had significations of strong > > Venus in Kendra, > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > > other factors > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > > state the role of > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with > > respect to the > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > > Mohan Kumaria" > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > Dear Rao, > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when > > you see BPHS, > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the > > 9th house, the > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > > heterodox. He will be > > the > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's > > wealth". How > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > > that for Simha > > Lagna, > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th > > house, which is the > > > house of death and transformations. I think the > > final judgment may > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's > > placement and > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha > > Lagna. In case Mars is > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have > > NeechBhanga yoga, then > > such > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna > > people. > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona > > and a dusth- > > sthana > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first > > part of > > antardasa > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second > > part will be > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending > > upon the dustha- > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another > > topic of > > research) > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th > > houses. Since > > Lords > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own > > 6th/8th/12th houses, > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half > > and extremely > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna > > people. So whether > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend > > upon the 9th > > Lord's > > > position and strength. From the 9th house > > perspectives, things get > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then > > again 8th Lord is > > also > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively > > good/bad halves > > of > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here > > and I will be > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such > > topic. > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao > > Nemani" > > <raon1008> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the > > situation > > > > you have described. > > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is > > Jupiter. So 5th > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord > > is placed in. > > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns > > PoorvaPunya, > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion > > and Mantras > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, > > spirituality, > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign > > land , > > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together > > with Jupiter, > > > > I could see that the native who had the above > > planetary > > > > combination may be blessed towards > > religious/spiritual > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is > > connected > > > > to Jupiter. > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear KPK, Moon rashi is Dhanus and also I have Sun and Mercury in the 8th? Does that constitute Budh Aditya Yoga? vani --- kpkanitkar <kpkanitkar wrote: > Hello Vani > it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is > in own house > which is also 5th lord > and Main dasha is of Moon. > > Regards > KPK > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh > <vani_sureshus> wrote: > > Dear Jayashree, > > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th > itself > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna > lord > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that > the > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I > > should be worried about? > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, > since > > > I have the > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From > Moon > > > Vimsottari, I also > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > > > Atmakarak in my chart > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant > > > issues/happenings that I faced > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th > house > > > - > > > father/religion/residence in foreign > land/foreign > > > education (higher > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage > (indicative > > > of connection with > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As > stated > > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > > > with a loving > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed > did > > > some major good > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) > and > > > had troubles of > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the > first > > > half of Mercury's > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting > quite > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period > - > > > this configuration > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual > person. > > > Then Mercury saw > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > > > blessing with happy > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was > followed > > > by a period of > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, > and > > > then gave a first > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also > have > > > earned very well > > > always, there has been no period of > apprenticeship > > > or mentoring I've > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and > good > > > pay right from > > > the start, though despite this professionally I > was > > > not too satisfied > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I > had > > > very conjugal > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > > > strained at one time, > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't > affect > > > my employment > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > > > abroad for higher > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. > So > > > from this, it is > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > > > outwardly extremely > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th > house) > > > so that I was > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > > > filled with > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies > (9th > > > house placement > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in > general > > > state due to > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > > > Venus is weak, I > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > > > astrologers that Venus's > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it > is > > > indeed very good > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > > > Jupiter in a kendra > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by > Navamsa > > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > > I have also always had significations of strong > > > Venus in Kendra, > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > > > other factors > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > > > state the role of > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results > with > > > respect to the > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > > > Mohan Kumaria" > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but > when > > > you see BPHS, > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in > the > > > 9th house, the > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > > > heterodox. He will be > > > the > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal > other's > > > wealth". How > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > > > that for Simha > > > Lagna, > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the > 8th > > > house, which is the > > > > house of death and transformations. I think > the > > > final judgment may > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, > Mars's > > > placement and > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha > > > Lagna. In case Mars is > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have > > > NeechBhanga yoga, then > > > such > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna > > > people. > > > > > > > > In general the planets which own a > kendra/trikona > > > and a dusth- > > > sthana > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas > i.e,,first > > > part of > > > antardasa > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and > second > > > part will be > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type > depending > > > upon the dustha- > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is > another > > > topic of > > > research) > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hi, I'm new to this group and trying to learn, I have a question what happens for one that has simha lagan and the 5th and 8th lord Jupiter is placed in the 9th with Mars and Saturn. Please provide help. Thanks vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" <kpkanitkar> wrote: > Hello Vani > it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own house > which is also 5th lord > and Main dasha is of Moon. > > Regards > KPK > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh > <vani_sureshus> wrote: > > Dear Jayashree, > > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I > > should be worried about? > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since > > > I have the > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon > > > Vimsottari, I also > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > > > Atmakarak in my chart > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant > > > issues/happenings that I faced > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house > > > - > > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign > > > education (higher > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative > > > of connection with > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated > > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > > > with a loving > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did > > > some major good > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and > > > had troubles of > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first > > > half of Mercury's > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period - > > > this configuration > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person. > > > Then Mercury saw > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > > > blessing with happy > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed > > > by a period of > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and > > > then gave a first > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have > > > earned very well > > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship > > > or mentoring I've > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good > > > pay right from > > > the start, though despite this professionally I was > > > not too satisfied > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had > > > very conjugal > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > > > strained at one time, > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect > > > my employment > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > > > abroad for higher > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So > > > from this, it is > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > > > outwardly extremely > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house) > > > so that I was > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > > > filled with > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th > > > house placement > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general > > > state due to > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > > > Venus is weak, I > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > > > astrologers that Venus's > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is > > > indeed very good > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > > > Jupiter in a kendra > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa > > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > > I have also always had significations of strong > > > Venus in Kendra, > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > > > other factors > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > > > state the role of > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with > > > respect to the > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > > > Mohan Kumaria" > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when > > > you see BPHS, > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the > > > 9th house, the > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > > > heterodox. He will be > > > the > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's > > > wealth". How > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > > > that for Simha > > > Lagna, > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th > > > house, which is the > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the > > > final judgment may > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's > > > placement and > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha > > > Lagna. In case Mars is > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have > > > NeechBhanga yoga, then > > > such > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna > > > people. > > > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona > > > and a dusth- > > > sthana > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first > > > part of > > > antardasa > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second > > > part will be > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending > > > upon the dustha- > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another > > > topic of > > > research) > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th > > > houses. Since > > > Lords > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own > > > 6th/8th/12th houses, > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half > > > and extremely > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna > > > people. So whether > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend > > > upon the 9th > > > Lord's > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house > > > perspectives, things get > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then > > > again 8th Lord is > > > also > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively > > > good/bad halves > > > of > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here > > > and I will be > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such > > > topic. > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao > > > Nemani" > > > <raon1008> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the > > > situation > > > > > you have described. > > > > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is > > > Jupiter. So 5th > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord > > > is placed in. > > > > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns > > > PoorvaPunya, > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion > > > and Mantras > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, > > > spirituality, > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign > > > land , > > > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together > > > with Jupiter, > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above > > > planetary > > > > > combination may be blessed towards > > > religious/spiritual > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is > > > connected > > > > > to Jupiter. > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 I read something similar on this as well, it said that the results (evil or good) will be boosted having "the lord gone equal distance from the Bhava owned". More thoughts and interpretations are very welcome. Thanks a lot! RajAshwin Sun <ashwinjlsun > wrote: Hello All, One principle that my teacher shared with us is that any lord gone equal distance from the Bhava owned; ie 5th L 5 away in the 9th, 3rd Lord 3 away in the 5th, 6th Lord 6 away in the 11th...., this 'perpetuates' the evil or good of that Bhava owned. I personally have the 3rd Lord 3 away in the 5th, and the 5th Lord 5 away in the 9th...it seems to definately be a factor. Thanks, Peace- Ashwin Rao Nemani <raon1008 > wrote: Dear Raj,Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation you have described.Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in.Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , foreign trips.So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, I could see that the native who had the above planetary combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected to Jupiter.So it sounds like the article you have read may be mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th house.This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred Members to correct me if I am wrong.RegardsRaghunadha Rao.--- In vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote:> Respected Gurus,> I read an article on the internet saying that it is> auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th> house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in> Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid> statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses> like 9th, 10th etc..> > Thanks in advance,> Raj> > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear KPK ji Well the degree of malificience of such planets when they own a kendra/trikona and also when they own 6th/8th/12th houses(especially they are ver malefic, when the mooltrikona rashis of such planets also fall in 6th/8th/12th houses and such planets are the Lords of their mooltrikona rashis) has to be determined. So the strength and placement of such planets and the strength, placement of their dispositors, as well as the planets in conjunction and other yogas involved have to be considered. The detailed explanation will require chart by chart analysis(the lord of mahadasas are also critical for such analysis, but all such planets create havoc financially and ofcourse there is no harm beocming spriritual during such periods to maintain confidence in the Divine Providence) and I have already generalized the known results. In your case, Venus beng the dispoistor of Saturn and other planets affecting Saturn will provide the key to the degree of maleficience...anyway you already know some results now and can become cautious when Saturn periods come. All the best and regards. RMK vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > Hello Rajesh Ji > Your answer is very interesting and it is really a good explaination. > > Virgo Lagna also have Sat as 5th lord and 6th lord. > If a chart has Virgo lagna with Sat in 9th , again as you said mixed > results can be observed. > Since Sat having mooltrikona in Aqua, The results will be again mixed > as mooltrikon a falls in 6th house. > > I have a small question here. After considering lordship, if still > 5th lord 5th from 5th house, does each planet indicate spiritual > growth in atleast half of thier dasha. Like Aqu asc, mer in 9th, Leo > asc Jup in 9th, Sco ace Jup in 9th , Virgo asc Jup in 9th, there must > be different results for each. am I correct? > > Regards > KPK > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear Rao, > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see BPHS, > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th house, the > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He will be > the > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth". How > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for Simha > Lagna, > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house, which is the > > house of death and transformations. I think the final judgment may > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's placement and > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In case Mars is > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga yoga, then > such > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people. > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a dusth- > sthana > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part of > antardasa > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part will be > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the dustha- > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic of > research) > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses. Since > Lords > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own 6th/8th/12th houses, > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and extremely > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people. So whether > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon the 9th > Lord's > > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives, things get > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th Lord is > also > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively good/bad halves > of > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and I will be > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic. > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" > <raon1008> > > wrote: > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > > you have described. > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > > to Jupiter. > > > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > Regards > > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hello Rajesh Ji Here are my details.. 14 Nov 1972 4.22 am Pune India If you can see min my chart, Venus in Lagna debilited while Moon in 5th in Capri and Sat in 9th Tau. My Lagna Virgo at 25.28 Degrees. While Venus is 23.32 degrees in Virgo only. Moon in Capri at 25.10 Degrees while Sat in Tau at 25.34 degrees. Interesting thing is that All Ascndant Moon, Venus and Sat are in Nakshtra of Mars and Mars is in libra in 2nd house in Nakshtra of Mars itself and Mars with Sun in Libra. Mars is malefic planet for Virgo ascendant.. So Will Sat dasha will make me more spiritual and cautious? Regards KPK vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear KPK ji > Well the degree of malificience of such planets when they own a > kendra/trikona and also when they own 6th/8th/12th houses (especially > they are ver malefic, when the mooltrikona rashis of such planets > also fall in 6th/8th/12th houses and such planets are the Lords of > their mooltrikona rashis) has to be determined. So the strength and > placement of such planets and the strength, placement of their > dispositors, as well as the planets in conjunction and other yogas > involved have to be considered. The detailed explanation will require > chart by chart analysis(the lord of mahadasas are also critical for > such analysis, but all such planets create havoc financially and > ofcourse there is no harm beocming spriritual during such periods to > maintain confidence in the Divine Providence) and I have already > generalized the known results. > > In your case, Venus beng the dispoistor of Saturn and other planets > affecting Saturn will provide the key to the degree of > maleficience...anyway you already know some results now and can > become cautious when Saturn periods come. > All the best and regards. > RMK > > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" > <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > > > Hello Rajesh Ji > > Your answer is very interesting and it is really a good > explaination. > > > > Virgo Lagna also have Sat as 5th lord and 6th lord. > > If a chart has Virgo lagna with Sat in 9th , again as you said > mixed > > results can be observed. > > Since Sat having mooltrikona in Aqua, The results will be again > mixed > > as mooltrikon a falls in 6th house. > > > > I have a small question here. After considering lordship, if still > > 5th lord 5th from 5th house, does each planet indicate spiritual > > growth in atleast half of thier dasha. Like Aqu asc, mer in 9th, > Leo > > asc Jup in 9th, Sco ace Jup in 9th , Virgo asc Jup in 9th, there > must > > be different results for each. am I correct? > > > > Regards > > KPK > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > Dear Rao, > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see BPHS, > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th house, the > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He will be > > the > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth". How > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for Simha > > Lagna, > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house, which is > the > > > house of death and transformations. I think the final judgment > may > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's placement and > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In case Mars > is > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga yoga, then > > such > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people. > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a dusth- > > sthana > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part of > > antardasa > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part will be > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the dustha- > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic of > > research) > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses. Since > > Lords > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own 6th/8th/12th > houses, > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and extremely > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people. So > whether > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon the 9th > > Lord's > > > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives, things > get > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th Lord is > > also > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively good/bad halves > > of > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and I will be > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic. > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" > > <raon1008> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > > > you have described. > > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > > > to Jupiter. > > > > > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > > > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > software > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Vani, I have heard about co-rulers of 5/9 with 6/8/12 giving mixed results, such as kona lordship, then dusthana lordship, but I did not state it here. But I've also heard that Mercury's placement in 8 is very good, that is, Mercury actually does good as 8th lord in 8. This might be connected with a notion that I too feel as well as heard that 8th house is quite intellectual by nature and Mercury being the natural significator of intellect is placed well in 8? I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this notion, but I have heard in general that a well- placed 10th lord in 8 these days, according to the 'desh/kal/patra' principle gives way to intellectual professions. Also, isn't 8th lord in 8 a kind of VRY? I did notice several charts where for Aquarius lagna, if Mercury is somewhat connected with the 10th house (owned by Mars), then it most certainly gives rise to Engineers.. I'm stating these as a reasoning of why 8th lord in 8 being Mercury might be good. But also I have heard that the bhukti is conditioned by the dasha lord, that bhukti lord is somewhat limited in capacity to do strong good/bad results, ie completely overriding the indications of a strongly malefic/benefic dasha. So you should really evaluate based on where Moon gets placed, aspects on Moon, and aspects/conjunctions with Mercury to evaluate results. Kind regards, Jayashree vedic astrology, Vani Suresh <vani_sureshus> wrote: > Dear Jayashree, > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the > first half of the antardasha will be good and the > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I > should be worried about? > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since > > I have the > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon > > Vimsottari, I also > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > > Atmakarak in my chart > > placed in 9th house. The predominant > > issues/happenings that I faced > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house > > - > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign > > education (higher > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative > > of connection with > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > > with a loving > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did > > some major good > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and > > had troubles of > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first > > half of Mercury's > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period - > > this configuration > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person. > > Then Mercury saw > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > > blessing with happy > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed > > by a period of > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and > > then gave a first > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have > > earned very well > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship > > or mentoring I've > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good > > pay right from > > the start, though despite this professionally I was > > not too satisfied > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had > > very conjugal > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > > strained at one time, > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect > > my employment > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > > abroad for higher > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So > > from this, it is > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > > outwardly extremely > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house) > > so that I was > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > > filled with > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th > > house placement > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general > > state due to > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > > Venus is weak, I > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > > astrologers that Venus's > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is > > indeed very good > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > > Jupiter in a kendra > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > I have also always had significations of strong > > Venus in Kendra, > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > > other factors > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > > state the role of > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with > > respect to the > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > > Mohan Kumaria" > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > Dear Rao, > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when > > you see BPHS, > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the > > 9th house, the > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > > heterodox. He will be > > the > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's > > wealth". How > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > > that for Simha > > Lagna, > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th > > house, which is the > > > house of death and transformations. I think the > > final judgment may > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's > > placement and > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha > > Lagna. In case Mars is > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have > > NeechBhanga yoga, then > > such > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna > > people. > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona > > and a dusth- > > sthana > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first > > part of > > antardasa > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second > > part will be > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending > > upon the dustha- > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another > > topic of > > research) > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th > > houses. Since > > Lords > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own > > 6th/8th/12th houses, > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half > > and extremely > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna > > people. So whether > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend > > upon the 9th > > Lord's > > > position and strength. From the 9th house > > perspectives, things get > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then > > again 8th Lord is > > also > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively > > good/bad halves > > of > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here > > and I will be > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such > > topic. > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao > > Nemani" > > <raon1008> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the > > situation > > > > you have described. > > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is > > Jupiter. So 5th > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord > > is placed in. > > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns > > PoorvaPunya, > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion > > and Mantras > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, > > spirituality, > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign > > land , > > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together > > with Jupiter, > > > > I could see that the native who had the above > > planetary > > > > combination may be blessed towards > > religious/spiritual > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is > > connected > > > > to Jupiter. > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear KPK Ji, Well just had a quick look.... you have a tapaswi yoga in D-60(your last life), where Saturn and Venus are in cojunction ln Leo in 10th house (along with Mars) and Ketu has Rashi Dristi on Saturn-Venus conjuncion. In this life's rashi chart, dispositor of Saturn is Venus and Ketu has rashi dristi on Venus. Also in D-60, Sun is the dispositor of Saturn and Venus combination and being Atamakarka carried over the tapaswi yoga from last life to this life. ALso Mars, the Lagna Lord of D-60 is linked to this tapawsi yga and Mars and Saturn are in conjunction again in Libra in Rashi chart. So both Sun(AK) and Mars carry over this yoga, which theoretically gets activated in saturn dasa, especially Saturn/Saturn to Saturn/Venus period(better use Drig dasa here). So you will have a great tendency to become very spiritual in Shani Dasha and may even renounce this world. All the best. Regards. RMK. vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > > Hello Rajesh Ji > > Here are my details.. > > 14 Nov 1972 > 4.22 am > Pune India > > > If you can see min my chart, Venus in Lagna debilited while Moon in > 5th in Capri and Sat in 9th Tau. > > My Lagna Virgo at 25.28 Degrees. While Venus is 23.32 degrees in > Virgo only. Moon in Capri at 25.10 Degrees while Sat in Tau at 25.34 > degrees. Interesting thing is that All Ascndant Moon, Venus and Sat > are in Nakshtra of Mars and Mars is in libra in 2nd house in Nakshtra > of Mars itself and Mars with Sun in Libra. Mars is malefic planet > for Virgo ascendant.. So Will Sat dasha will make me more spiritual > and cautious? > > Regards > KPK > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear KPK ji > > Well the degree of malificience of such planets when they own a > > kendra/trikona and also when they own 6th/8th/12th houses > (especially > > they are ver malefic, when the mooltrikona rashis of such planets > > also fall in 6th/8th/12th houses and such planets are the Lords of > > their mooltrikona rashis) has to be determined. So the strength and > > placement of such planets and the strength, placement of their > > dispositors, as well as the planets in conjunction and other yogas > > involved have to be considered. The detailed explanation will > require > > chart by chart analysis(the lord of mahadasas are also critical for > > such analysis, but all such planets create havoc financially and > > ofcourse there is no harm beocming spriritual during such periods > to > > maintain confidence in the Divine Providence) and I have already > > generalized the known results. > > > > In your case, Venus beng the dispoistor of Saturn and other planets > > affecting Saturn will provide the key to the degree of > > maleficience...anyway you already know some results now and can > > become cautious when Saturn periods come. > > All the best and regards. > > RMK > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" > > <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Rajesh Ji > > > Your answer is very interesting and it is really a good > > explaination. > > > > > > Virgo Lagna also have Sat as 5th lord and 6th lord. > > > If a chart has Virgo lagna with Sat in 9th , again as you said > > mixed > > > results can be observed. > > > Since Sat having mooltrikona in Aqua, The results will be again > > mixed > > > as mooltrikon a falls in 6th house. > > > > > > I have a small question here. After considering lordship, if > still > > > 5th lord 5th from 5th house, does each planet indicate spiritual > > > growth in atleast half of thier dasha. Like Aqu asc, mer in 9th, > > Leo > > > asc Jup in 9th, Sco ace Jup in 9th , Virgo asc Jup in 9th, there > > must > > > be different results for each. am I correct? > > > > > > Regards > > > KPK > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see BPHS, > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th house, > the > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He will > be > > > the > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth". How > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for Simha > > > Lagna, > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house, which is > > the > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the final judgment > > may > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's placement > and > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In case > Mars > > is > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga yoga, > then > > > such > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people. > > > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a dusth- > > > sthana > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part of > > > antardasa > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part will be > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the dustha- > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic of > > > research) > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses. Since > > > Lords > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own 6th/8th/12th > > houses, > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and extremely > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people. So > > whether > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon the 9th > > > Lord's > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives, things > > get > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th Lord > is > > > also > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively good/bad > halves > > > of > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and I will > be > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic. > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" > > > <raon1008> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > > > > you have described. > > > > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in. > > > > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > > > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > > > > to Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > > > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > > > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred > > > > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > > > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > > software > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear?? All three become yogakaraka as this is a conjoining of lords of Trines with quadrant lords in a trine. Chandrashekhar. isha_782002 [isha_782002 ]Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:40 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: 5th lord 5th from the 5th house.Hi, I'm new to this group and trying to learn, I have a question what happens for one that has simha lagan and the 5th and 8th lord Jupiter is placed in the 9th with Mars and Saturn.Please provide help.Thanksvedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" <kpkanitkar> wrote:> Hello Vani> it depends on what is moon rashi is? As 8th lord is in own house > which is also 5th lord> and Main dasha is of Moon.> > Regards> KPK> vedic astrology, Vani Suresh > <vani_sureshus> wrote:> > Dear Jayashree,> > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the> > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th itself> > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna lord> > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that the> > first half of the antardasha will be good and the> > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I> > should be worried about?> > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury> > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now.> > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao,> > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, since> > > I have the > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for> > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From Moon> > > Vimsottari, I also > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally> > > Atmakarak in my chart > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant> > > issues/happenings that I faced > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th house> > > - > > > father/religion/residence in foreign land/foreign> > > education (higher > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage (indicative> > > of connection with > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As stated> > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed> > > with a loving > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed did> > > some major good > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) and> > > had troubles of > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the first> > > half of Mercury's > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting quite > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period -> > > this configuration > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual person.> > > Then Mercury saw > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also> > > blessing with happy > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was followed> > > by a period of > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, and> > > then gave a first > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also have> > > earned very well > > > always, there has been no period of apprenticeship> > > or mentoring I've > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and good> > > pay right from > > > the start, though despite this professionally I was> > > not too satisfied > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I had> > > very conjugal > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly> > > strained at one time, > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't affect> > > my employment > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled> > > abroad for higher > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. So> > > from this, it is > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been> > > outwardly extremely > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th house)> > > so that I was > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I> > > filled with > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies (9th> > > house placement > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in general> > > state due to > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that> > > Venus is weak, I > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable> > > astrologers that Venus's > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it is> > > indeed very good > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong> > > Jupiter in a kendra > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by Navamsa> > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > > I have also always had significations of strong> > > Venus in Kendra, > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several> > > other factors > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to> > > state the role of > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results with> > > respect to the > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Jayashree> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh> > > Mohan Kumaria" > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > > Dear Rao, > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when > > > you see BPHS, > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the> > > 9th house, the > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a> > > heterodox. He will be > > > the > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's> > > wealth". How > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say> > > that for Simha > > > Lagna, > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion.> > > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th> > > house, which is the > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the> > > final judgment may > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's> > > placement and > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha> > > Lagna. In case Mars is > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have> > > NeechBhanga yoga, then > > > such > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna> > > people. > > > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona> > > and a dusth-> > > sthana > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first> > > part of > > > antardasa > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second> > > part will be > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending> > > upon the dustha-> > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another> > > topic of > > > research) > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th> > > houses. Since > > > Lords > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own> > > 6th/8th/12th houses, > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half> > > and extremely > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna> > > people. So whether > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend> > > upon the 9th > > > Lord's > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house> > > perspectives, things get > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then> > > again 8th Lord is > > > also > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively> > > good/bad halves > > > of > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here> > > and I will be > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such> > > topic. > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao> > > Nemani" > > > <raon1008> > > > > wrote:> > > > > Dear Raj,> > > > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the> > > situation > > > > > you have described.> > > > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is> > > Jupiter. So 5th > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord> > > is placed in.> > > > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns> > > PoorvaPunya, > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion> > > and Mantras > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness,> > > spirituality, > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign> > > land , > > > > > foreign trips.> > > > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together> > > with Jupiter, > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above> > > planetary > > > > > combination may be blessed towards> > > religious/spiritual > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is> > > connected > > > > > to Jupiter.> > > > > === message truncated ===Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hi Jayashree, I my case, being aquarius lagna, I am running Moon Dasha and Mercury Bukti.Moon is placed in the 11th along with Ketu and aspected by rahu from the 5th. Moon being a functional malefic for Aquarius lagna along with the nodes. My concern is that the next bhukti will be that of Ketu and I will start my ashtama shani as well. I have a strong saturn(lagna lord in lagnesh) aspected by venus in the 7th. Any comments on this vani --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi wrote: > Dear Vani, > > I have heard about co-rulers of 5/9 with 6/8/12 > giving mixed results, > such as kona lordship, then dusthana lordship, but I > did not state it > here. But I've also heard that Mercury's placement > in 8 is very good, > that is, Mercury actually does good as 8th lord in > 8. This might be > connected with a notion that I too feel as well as > heard that 8th > house is quite intellectual by nature and Mercury > being the natural > significator of intellect is placed well in 8? I'm > not sure of the > reasoning behind this notion, but I have heard in > general that a well- > placed 10th lord in 8 these days, according to the > 'desh/kal/patra' > principle gives way to intellectual professions. > Also, isn't 8th lord > in 8 a kind of VRY? I did notice several charts > where for Aquarius > lagna, if Mercury is somewhat connected with the > 10th house (owned by > Mars), then it most certainly gives rise to > Engineers.. I'm stating > these as a reasoning of why 8th lord in 8 being > Mercury might be > good. But also I have heard that the bhukti is > conditioned by the > dasha lord, that bhukti lord is somewhat limited in > capacity to do > strong good/bad results, ie completely overriding > the indications of > a strongly malefic/benefic dasha. So you should > really evaluate based > on where Moon gets placed, aspects on Moon, and > aspects/conjunctions > with Mercury to evaluate results. > > Kind regards, > > Jayashree > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh > <vani_sureshus> wrote: > > Dear Jayashree, > > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th > itself > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna > lord > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that > the > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I > > should be worried about? > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, > since > > > I have the > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From > Moon > > > Vimsottari, I also > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > > > Atmakarak in my chart > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant > > > issues/happenings that I faced > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th > house > > > - > > > father/religion/residence in foreign > land/foreign > > > education (higher > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage > (indicative > > > of connection with > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As > stated > > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > > > with a loving > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed > did > > > some major good > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) > and > > > had troubles of > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the > first > > > half of Mercury's > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting > quite > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period > - > > > this configuration > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual > person. > > > Then Mercury saw > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > > > blessing with happy > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was > followed > > > by a period of > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, > and > > > then gave a first > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also > have > > > earned very well > > > always, there has been no period of > apprenticeship > > > or mentoring I've > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and > good > > > pay right from > > > the start, though despite this professionally I > was > > > not too satisfied > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I > had > > > very conjugal > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > > > strained at one time, > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't > affect > > > my employment > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > > > abroad for higher > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. > So > > > from this, it is > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > > > outwardly extremely > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th > house) > > > so that I was > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > > > filled with > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies > (9th > > > house placement > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in > general > > > state due to > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > > > Venus is weak, I > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > > > astrologers that Venus's > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it > is > > > indeed very good > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > > > Jupiter in a kendra > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by > Navamsa > > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > > I have also always had significations of strong > > > Venus in Kendra, > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > > > other factors > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > > > state the role of > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results > with > > > respect to the > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > > > Mohan Kumaria" > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but > when > > > you see BPHS, > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in > the > > > 9th house, the > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > > > heterodox. He will be > > > the > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal > other's > > > wealth". How > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > > > that for Simha > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hello Rajesh Ji Thank you for your observation. I have Mars and Sun in Libra in Rashi chart and not Mars and Sat in Libra as you mentioned. Also Can you explain how ketu have drushti on venus in rashi chart. Ketu has drushti on Rashi of venus and atmakaraka. But yes some astrologers have told me I have Tapaswi Yoga and It will get activated in Sat Mahadasha. I will either do research in spiritual subjects or astrology or I will help many needy people astrologically. I am not sure how fate is going to take me on that path. But yes I have strong passion for astrology and philosophy. And I Wish to do some research in these subjects and help the people and do good for people. I am extreamly hard working but since I am running Jup mahadasha I am not able to put all my efforts to my passion. May God help me so that I can go ahead and be useful to people and society. You can also observe my atmakaraka, moon, Venus and Sat, Ascendant and even rahu and ketu all planets are very close and almost very close to the ascendant degrees in each rashi. Is it really good? Also My D-9 has Ketu alone in 10th house and In RAhsi chart also Ketu alone in 10th house. How to analyse suche independent Ketu? Regards KPK vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear KPK Ji, Well just had a quick look.... you have a tapaswi yoga > in D-60(your last life), where Saturn and Venus are in cojunction ln > Leo in 10th house (along with Mars) and Ketu has Rashi Dristi on > Saturn-Venus conjuncion. In this life's rashi chart, dispositor of > Saturn is Venus and Ketu has rashi dristi on Venus. Also in D-60, Sun > is the dispositor of Saturn and Venus combination and being > Atamakarka carried over the tapaswi yoga from last life to this life. > ALso Mars, the Lagna Lord of D-60 is linked to this tapawsi yga and > Mars and Saturn > are in conjunction again in Libra in Rashi chart. > > So both Sun(AK) and Mars carry over this yoga, which theoretically > gets activated in saturn dasa, especially Saturn/Saturn to > Saturn/Venus period(better use Drig dasa here). So you will have a > great tendency to become very spiritual in Shani Dasha and may even > renounce this world. All the best. Regards. RMK. > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" > <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Rajesh Ji > > > > Here are my details.. > > > > 14 Nov 1972 > > 4.22 am > > Pune India > > > > > > If you can see min my chart, Venus in Lagna debilited while Moon in > > 5th in Capri and Sat in 9th Tau. > > > > My Lagna Virgo at 25.28 Degrees. While Venus is 23.32 degrees in > > Virgo only. Moon in Capri at 25.10 Degrees while Sat in Tau at > 25.34 > > degrees. Interesting thing is that All Ascndant Moon, Venus and > Sat > > are in Nakshtra of Mars and Mars is in libra in 2nd house in > Nakshtra > > of Mars itself and Mars with Sun in Libra. Mars is malefic planet > > for Virgo ascendant.. So Will Sat dasha will make me more spiritual > > and cautious? > > > > Regards > > KPK > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > Dear KPK ji > > > Well the degree of malificience of such planets when they own a > > > kendra/trikona and also when they own 6th/8th/12th houses > > (especially > > > they are ver malefic, when the mooltrikona rashis of such planets > > > also fall in 6th/8th/12th houses and such planets are the Lords > of > > > their mooltrikona rashis) has to be determined. So the strength > and > > > placement of such planets and the strength, placement of their > > > dispositors, as well as the planets in conjunction and other > yogas > > > involved have to be considered. The detailed explanation will > > require > > > chart by chart analysis(the lord of mahadasas are also critical > for > > > such analysis, but all such planets create havoc financially and > > > ofcourse there is no harm beocming spriritual during such periods > > to > > > maintain confidence in the Divine Providence) and I have already > > > generalized the known results. > > > > > > In your case, Venus beng the dispoistor of Saturn and other > planets > > > affecting Saturn will provide the key to the degree of > > > maleficience...anyway you already know some results now and can > > > become cautious when Saturn periods come. > > > All the best and regards. > > > RMK > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kpkanitkar" > > > <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Rajesh Ji > > > > Your answer is very interesting and it is really a good > > > explaination. > > > > > > > > Virgo Lagna also have Sat as 5th lord and 6th lord. > > > > If a chart has Virgo lagna with Sat in 9th , again as you said > > > mixed > > > > results can be observed. > > > > Since Sat having mooltrikona in Aqua, The results will be again > > > mixed > > > > as mooltrikon a falls in 6th house. > > > > > > > > I have a small question here. After considering lordship, if > > still > > > > 5th lord 5th from 5th house, does each planet indicate > spiritual > > > > growth in atleast half of thier dasha. Like Aqu asc, mer in > 9th, > > > Leo > > > > asc Jup in 9th, Sco ace Jup in 9th , Virgo asc Jup in 9th, > there > > > must > > > > be different results for each. am I correct? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > KPK > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but when you see > BPHS, > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in the 9th house, > > the > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a heterodox. He > will > > be > > > > the > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal other's wealth". How > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say that for Simha > > > > Lagna, > > > > > jupiter in 8th will promote religion. > > > > > > > > > > But for Simha lagna, jupiter also owns the 8th house, which > is > > > the > > > > > house of death and transformations. I think the final > judgment > > > may > > > > > depend upon the dispositor of Jupiter i.e, Mars's placement > > and > > > > > strength, since Mars is yogakaraka for Simha Lagna. In case > > Mars > > > is > > > > > in Cancer in 12th house and does not have NeechBhanga yoga, > > then > > > > such > > > > > a Mars is considered the worst for Simha Lagna people. > > > > > > > > > > In general the planets which own a kendra/trikona and a dusth- > > > > sthana > > > > > gives mixed results in their antardasas i.e,,first part of > > > > antardasa > > > > > will give the results of kendra/trikona and second part will > be > > > > > extremely malefic and dangerous type depending upon the > dustha- > > > > > sthana owned by them or vice-versa(this is another topic of > > > > research) > > > > > i.e, For Aquarius Lagna, Mercury owns 5th and 8th houses. > Since > > > > Lords > > > > > of Mooltrikonas are most malefic when they own 6th/8th/12th > > > houses, > > > > > so Mercury anatardasas will be good in first half and > extremely > > > > > tough/malefic in second half for Aquarius lagna people. So > > > whether > > > > > 8th Lord is really good in 9th house, will depend upon the > 9th > > > > Lord's > > > > > position and strength. From the 9th house perspectives, > things > > > get > > > > > ruined when 8th Lord is placed there, but then again 8th Lord > > is > > > > also > > > > > 5th Lord in various cases, so mixed/alternatively good/bad > > halves > > > > of > > > > > antardasas will proceed in mind boggling manner. > > > > > > > > > > I think you have reached an important mystery here and I will > > be > > > > > anxious to learn more as things proceed on such topic. > > > > > Thanks and Regards. RMK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" > > > > <raon1008> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj, > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation > > > > > > you have described. > > > > > > > > > > > > Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th > > > > > > from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed > in. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns > PoorvaPunya, > > > > > > intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras > > > > > > etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, > > > > > > dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , > > > > > > foreign trips. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, > > > > > > I could see that the native who had the above planetary > > > > > > combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual > > > > > > pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected > > > > > > to Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it sounds like the article you have read may be > > > > > > mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the > > > > > > 5th from the 5th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and > Leanred > > > > > > Members to correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Raghunadha Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi > > > > > > <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Gurus, > > > > > > > I read an article on the internet saying that it is > > > > > > > auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th > > > > > > > house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in > > > > > > > Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid > > > > > > > statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses > > > > > > > like 9th, 10th etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > Raj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > > > software > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Perhaps this is similar to the Ayurvedic principle that "like increases like." When we eat hot food, we become 'hotter/more angry/pitta increases", etc. So it seems possible that a Lord gone the same distance away would compound that very energy of the bhava it owns, thru "like increasing like," of 3 from 3, 5 from 5,etc. Very fun Stuff, Thanks Raj- AshwinJyotish Vidyarthi <jyotish_vidyarthi > wrote: Dear Ashwin, I read something similar on this as well, it said that the results (evil or good) will be boosted having "the lord gone equal distance from the Bhava owned". More thoughts and interpretations are very welcome. Thanks a lot! RajAshwin Sun <ashwinjlsun > wrote: Hello All, One principle that my teacher shared with us is that any lord gone equal distance from the Bhava owned; ie 5th L 5 away in the 9th, 3rd Lord 3 away in the 5th, 6th Lord 6 away in the 11th...., this 'perpetuates' the evil or good of that Bhava owned. I personally have the 3rd Lord 3 away in the 5th, and the 5th Lord 5 away in the 9th...it seems to definately be a factor. Thanks, Peace- Ashwin Rao Nemani <raon1008 > wrote: Dear Raj,Let me attempt to give my understanding on the situation you have described.Simha Lagna, 5th and 8th house's lord is Jupiter. So 5th from 5th house which is 9th house where 5th lord is placed in.Let us see the basics here: 5th house represetns PoorvaPunya, intelligence, knowledge & Scorlarship, devotion and Mantras etc., 9th house represents religiousness, spirituality, dharma, intuition, teacher, fortune in foreign land , foreign trips.So if I connect the above two pieces together with Jupiter, I could see that the native who had the above planetary combination may be blessed towards religious/spiritual pursuits in a foreign land, provided Ketu is connected to Jupiter.So it sounds like the article you have read may be mentioning the above as auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th house.This is a beginner's thought, and request Guru's and Leanred Members to correct me if I am wrong.RegardsRaghunadha Rao.--- In vedic astrology, Jyotish Vidyarthi <jyotish_vidyarthi> wrote:> Respected Gurus,> I read an article on the internet saying that it is> auspicious to have 5th lord in the 5th from the 5th> house (e.g. Simha Lagna: Jupiter (Lord of 5th) in> Aries). Please advise whether this is a valid> statement? If so is it true with Lords of other houses> like 9th, 10th etc..> > Thanks in advance,> Raj> > > > > Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear Vani, Can u please post your dob? I'll send you my analysis, but I'm only a novice so it would be a general assessment and likely error-prone. Nevertheless, u can trust it to some extent. Best regards, Jayashree vedic astrology, Vani Suresh <vani_sureshus> wrote: > Hi Jayashree, > > I my case, being aquarius lagna, I am running Moon > Dasha and Mercury Bukti.Moon is placed in the 11th > along with Ketu and aspected by rahu from the 5th. > Moon being a functional malefic for Aquarius lagna > along with the nodes. > My concern is that the next bhukti will be that of > Ketu and I will start my ashtama shani as well. > I have a strong saturn(lagna lord in lagnesh) aspected > by venus in the 7th. > > Any comments on this > vani > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > Dear Vani, > > > > I have heard about co-rulers of 5/9 with 6/8/12 > > giving mixed results, > > such as kona lordship, then dusthana lordship, but I > > did not state it > > here. But I've also heard that Mercury's placement > > in 8 is very good, > > that is, Mercury actually does good as 8th lord in > > 8. This might be > > connected with a notion that I too feel as well as > > heard that 8th > > house is quite intellectual by nature and Mercury > > being the natural > > significator of intellect is placed well in 8? I'm > > not sure of the > > reasoning behind this notion, but I have heard in > > general that a well- > > placed 10th lord in 8 these days, according to the > > 'desh/kal/patra' > > principle gives way to intellectual professions. > > Also, isn't 8th lord > > in 8 a kind of VRY? I did notice several charts > > where for Aquarius > > lagna, if Mercury is somewhat connected with the > > 10th house (owned by > > Mars), then it most certainly gives rise to > > Engineers.. I'm stating > > these as a reasoning of why 8th lord in 8 being > > Mercury might be > > good. But also I have heard that the bhukti is > > conditioned by the > > dasha lord, that bhukti lord is somewhat limited in > > capacity to do > > strong good/bad results, ie completely overriding > > the indications of > > a strongly malefic/benefic dasha. So you should > > really evaluate based > > on where Moon gets placed, aspects on Moon, and > > aspects/conjunctions > > with Mercury to evaluate results. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Jayashree > > > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh > > <vani_sureshus> wrote: > > > Dear Jayashree, > > > > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the > > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th > > itself > > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna > > lord > > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that > > the > > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the > > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I > > > should be worried about? > > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury > > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. > > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > > > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, > > since > > > > I have the > > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From > > Moon > > > > Vimsottari, I also > > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > > > > Atmakarak in my chart > > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant > > > > issues/happenings that I faced > > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th > > house > > > > - > > > > father/religion/residence in foreign > > land/foreign > > > > education (higher > > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage > > (indicative > > > > of connection with > > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As > > stated > > > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > > > > with a loving > > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed > > did > > > > some major good > > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) > > and > > > > had troubles of > > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the > > first > > > > half of Mercury's > > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting > > quite > > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period > > - > > > > this configuration > > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual > > person. > > > > Then Mercury saw > > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > > > > blessing with happy > > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was > > followed > > > > by a period of > > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, > > and > > > > then gave a first > > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also > > have > > > > earned very well > > > > always, there has been no period of > > apprenticeship > > > > or mentoring I've > > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and > > good > > > > pay right from > > > > the start, though despite this professionally I > > was > > > > not too satisfied > > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I > > had > > > > very conjugal > > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > > > > strained at one time, > > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't > > affect > > > > my employment > > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > > > > abroad for higher > > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. > > So > > > > from this, it is > > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > > > > outwardly extremely > > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th > > house) > > > > so that I was > > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > > > > filled with > > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies > > (9th > > > > house placement > > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in > > general > > > > state due to > > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > > > > Venus is weak, I > > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > > > > astrologers that Venus's > > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it > > is > > > > indeed very good > > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > > > > Jupiter in a kendra > > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by > > Navamsa > > > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > > > I have also always had significations of strong > > > > Venus in Kendra, > > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > > > > other factors > > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > > > > state the role of > > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results > > with > > > > respect to the > > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > > > > Mohan Kumaria" > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but > > when > > > > you see BPHS, > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in > > the > > > > 9th house, the > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > > > > heterodox. He will be > > > > the > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal > > other's > > > > wealth". How > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > > > > that for Simha > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Vani and Jayshree, My chart has a Aq lagna with the lagna lord in 12th. Ve/Ma/Me are in 10 th. Su/Mo are in 9th. Rahu/Ketu in 5/11 and Ju is in 2nd. I always had ups and downs in my life akin to the planets blowing hot and cold. First half of Sa/Me dasha was a complete disaster for health and career. Second half had a radical improvement in health and career but I was not very happy. With the advent of Sa/Ke things changed drastically again. Job prospects improved and I got relocated to a far of country in South America. I was already based away from home. I have noticed that Ju and Sa transits on 12 th house or transit aspects has brought about relocation/change in financial position and career. Ketu bhukti has already proved beneficial. I would presume you would have similar benefits with Ke being in 11 th house in both charts. Email me privately if you need to know more. Hope this helps. Mike vedic astrology, "Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > Dear Vani, > > Can u please post your dob? I'll send you my analysis, but I'm only a > novice so it would be a general assessment and likely error-prone. > Nevertheless, u can trust it to some extent. > > Best regards, > > Jayashree > > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh > <vani_sureshus> wrote: > > Hi Jayashree, > > > > I my case, being aquarius lagna, I am running Moon > > Dasha and Mercury Bukti.Moon is placed in the 11th > > along with Ketu and aspected by rahu from the 5th. > > Moon being a functional malefic for Aquarius lagna > > along with the nodes. > > My concern is that the next bhukti will be that of > > Ketu and I will start my ashtama shani as well. > > I have a strong saturn(lagna lord in lagnesh) aspected > > by venus in the 7th. > > > > Any comments on this > > vani > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Vani, > > > > > > I have heard about co-rulers of 5/9 with 6/8/12 > > > giving mixed results, > > > such as kona lordship, then dusthana lordship, but I > > > did not state it > > > here. But I've also heard that Mercury's placement > > > in 8 is very good, > > > that is, Mercury actually does good as 8th lord in > > > 8. This might be > > > connected with a notion that I too feel as well as > > > heard that 8th > > > house is quite intellectual by nature and Mercury > > > being the natural > > > significator of intellect is placed well in 8? I'm > > > not sure of the > > > reasoning behind this notion, but I have heard in > > > general that a well- > > > placed 10th lord in 8 these days, according to the > > > 'desh/kal/patra' > > > principle gives way to intellectual professions. > > > Also, isn't 8th lord > > > in 8 a kind of VRY? I did notice several charts > > > where for Aquarius > > > lagna, if Mercury is somewhat connected with the > > > 10th house (owned by > > > Mars), then it most certainly gives rise to > > > Engineers.. I'm stating > > > these as a reasoning of why 8th lord in 8 being > > > Mercury might be > > > good. But also I have heard that the bhukti is > > > conditioned by the > > > dasha lord, that bhukti lord is somewhat limited in > > > capacity to do > > > strong good/bad results, ie completely overriding > > > the indications of > > > a strongly malefic/benefic dasha. So you should > > > really evaluate based > > > on where Moon gets placed, aspects on Moon, and > > > aspects/conjunctions > > > with Mercury to evaluate results. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > vedic astrology, Vani Suresh > > > <vani_sureshus> wrote: > > > > Dear Jayashree, > > > > > > > > I am also an aquarius lagna with Mercury being the > > > > lord of 5th and 8th.I have Mercury in the 8th > > > itself > > > > and rahu in the 5th.Venus is in the 7th and lagna > > > lord > > > > shani is in the lagna itself. You have stated that > > > the > > > > first half of the antardasha will be good and the > > > > second half will be troublesome.Is it something I > > > > should be worried about? > > > > I am undergoing Moon Mahadasha and Mercury > > > > antardasha(6th lord/8th lord) right now. > > > > --- Jayashree <jayashree_ravi@m...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Members Rajesh and Rao, > > > > > > > > > > I would like to contribute in this thread too, > > > since > > > > > I have the > > > > > stated combination of 5th/8th lord Mercury for > > > > > Aquarius lagna in 9th > > > > > house with 9th lord Venus in 10th house. From > > > Moon > > > > > Vimsottari, I also > > > > > crossed Mercury dasha which is additionally > > > > > Atmakarak in my chart > > > > > placed in 9th house. The predominant > > > > > issues/happenings that I faced > > > > > while in Mercury dasha were related to the 9th > > > house > > > > > - > > > > > father/religion/residence in foreign > > > land/foreign > > > > > education (higher > > > > > studies), and ofcourse spouse/marriage > > > (indicative > > > > > of connection with > > > > > Navamsa or dharmaAmsa for the 9th house). As > > > stated > > > > > by Mr. Kumaria, > > > > > the results were mixed - I have not been blessed > > > > > with a loving > > > > > father/child relationship, (but my father indeed > > > did > > > > > some major good > > > > > things for me towards the end of Mercury dasha) > > > and > > > > > had troubles of > > > > > the same sort during Mercury's dasha and the > > > first > > > > > half of Mercury's > > > > > dasha dealth with this issue and me getting > > > quite > > > > > religious/philosophical a lot during this period > > > - > > > > > this configuration > > > > > has made me into a somewhat deeply spiritual > > > person. > > > > > Then Mercury saw > > > > > me getting married to a wealthier spouse, also > > > > > blessing with happy > > > > > marriage, and the birth of my son. This was > > > followed > > > > > by a period of > > > > > sickness, which was also the mid of Sade-sathi, > > > and > > > > > then gave a first > > > > > job. It is very interesting to note that I also > > > have > > > > > earned very well > > > > > always, there has been no period of > > > apprenticeship > > > > > or mentoring I've > > > > > had, Mercury only gave me good designation and > > > good > > > > > pay right from > > > > > the start, though despite this professionally I > > > was > > > > > not too satisfied > > > > > (though at the outright I was). With bosses, I > > > had > > > > > very conjugal > > > > > relationship, but that too became surprisingly > > > > > strained at one time, > > > > > towards the end of Mercury dasha, but didn't > > > affect > > > > > my employment > > > > > though. And eventually Mercury saw me enrolled > > > > > abroad for higher > > > > > studies and get started with excellent grades. > > > So > > > > > from this, it is > > > > > really clear Mercury's role in my chart has been > > > > > outwardly extremely > > > > > good (5th) but with some internal sorrow (8th > > > house) > > > > > so that I was > > > > > always having an unexplainable emptiness that I > > > > > filled with > > > > > spirituality and religion and higher studies > > > (9th > > > > > house placement > > > > > with 9th lord in 10). Although, people in > > > general > > > > > state due to > > > > > Venus's degree placement being 0 deg 45 min that > > > > > Venus is weak, I > > > > > have recently heard from more knowledgeable > > > > > astrologers that Venus's > > > > > degrees does not affect it any way, and that it > > > is > > > > > indeed very good > > > > > and strong in my chart, being placed with strong > > > > > Jupiter in a kendra > > > > > and trine in the navamsa, again aspected by > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagnesh Jupiter. > > > > > I have also always had significations of strong > > > > > Venus in Kendra, > > > > > since I'm quite excellent with arts, and several > > > > > other factors > > > > > related to good Venus in kendra - adding this to > > > > > state the role of > > > > > Mercury giving both 5th and 8th house results > > > with > > > > > respect to the > > > > > placement and strength of dispositor Venus. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jayashree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh > > > > > Mohan Kumaria" > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > > > Well it appears that your logic correct but > > > when > > > > > you see BPHS, > > > > > > Parasara states that " If the 8th Lord is in > > > the > > > > > 9th house, the > > > > > > native will be a betrayer of religion and a > > > > > heterodox. He will be > > > > > the > > > > > > husband of a wicked wife and will steal > > > other's > > > > > wealth". How > > > > > > Ironical. What a dilemma,, since most will say > > > > > that for Simha > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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