Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Dear all, Hindu astrology is very much Vedic. Jyotish is a Vedanga (one of the six Vedangas (literal translation of Vedanga is "Limbs of Veda")). Here is a nice succinct writeup on history of Vedic astrology - http://www.shyamasundaradasa.com/Shyama_site/what_is_jyotish/jyotish_h istory.htm For more resources go to Google. A humble request to people who still have doubts - Kindly get your basics right elsewhere and let the people in this forum concentrate on "Vedic" Jyotish. Namaste. Rageshwari. vedic astrology, Rajinder Nath <jinderman> wrote: > shree rajiv ji, > it will be hard to prove that astrology does not > have any ref in veda as astrology is branch of > astronomy .dayanad was a social reformer and he > try to put end to social evil of so called pundit > sucking blodd and money from poor at hardwar and > other hindu matth. > i am glad this topic is on as you know dayanad try to > stop the idol worship too by snathna dharma . > he has to criticise what was dominate aplace > for money making business and jesus get mad at > trader at jeruslem ttoo > basically astrology point out that there is unity > between us and the havenly bodies realising that > unity we will find out we shoul harmonise with > it. would you ignore the effect of moon on the tide of > sea so why not on our mind and thougt we are 75% water > too. > please read carl sagan book candle in darkness his > work is almost like dayanad swami but he refuse you > agrree astorlogy is fraud. > yes there are fraud astrologer. > so may be astrologgy higher purpose is tomake us > realise > the tez of light not just see the light. > also in book secret search of india paul burton > has a chapter on written in sta > --- Rajeev Kumar <satpath1> wrote: > > Namaste Rajesh Mohan Ji, > > > > > > Belief is based upon evidences, whereas faith is > > blind and require no evidence. > > > > If we go by what you say and start believing that > > sand is sweet and eat a spoonful of sand , then is > > it going to appear sweet in taste? if not then your > > statement is wrong, if yes then how long you can > > keep on eating sand as sugar. I know only one thing > > that whether you eat poison knowingly or > > unknowingly its going to have bad effect on your > > body. > > > > Now coming over to origin of Vedas. I said that > > Vedas are there from the very begining of mankind. I > > have following points to support this. > > > > Had God not given Vedas nobody could have become > > learned. You may say that humans have instinctive > > knowledge and could become knowledgable on their > > own.Now I say that had it been possible then why > > still in different parts of even India as well as > > world we see uncivilized people who remain nude, > > they live and act like animals only.Had god not > > given these people the instinctive knowledge? > > > > So what it proves , it proves that instinctive > > knowledge cannot be increased or decreased, instead > > the knowledge that is acquired from somebody more > > civilized makes the uncivilized civilized. > > > > God gave the Vedas in the begining based upon which > > you , me and the whole world become civilized. > > > > More on this issue can be read from. > > > > www.vjsingh.com/books.html > > > > Think over it twice before making any assumption. > > > > Regards > > > > Rajeev > > > > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000> > > wrote: > > Respected Members, > > > > After reading so many emails on this topic yesterday > > night, here are > > my humble ideas and thoughts (it took me a long time > > to reach these > > conclusions. In short there is nothing called > > perfect and logical…. > > its all a matter of your beliefs only) > > > > > > 1. Palentological evidence indicates that life > > started as bacteria > > type organisms, some 4.2 billion years ago and > > another billion years > > life existed in deep sea bottoms only in the form of > > ancient sea > > plants and ancient fish. It took another billion > > years before the > > fish evolved into amphibians and reptiles. > > Eventually after more than > > 3.5 billion years of evolution, Crocodiles and > > Dinosaurs came some > > 240 million years ago. The age of dinosaurs was from > > 225 million > > years ago to 65 million years ago. Crocodiles came > > before dinosaurs > > and they are still here. There is no sign of man > > until some 10 > > million years ago when the Cro-Magnon man came and > > the modern man > > (homo sapiens) has come just a million years ago > > only. So more than 4 > > billion years have passed, yet there was no sign of > > man on this > > earth. There is not a single species of man on earth > > when the huge > > gigantic dinosaurs ruled the continents, which were > > all fused > > together and ultimately drifted apart due to various > > forces working > > underneath the earth's surface. The history of > > written language in > > ancient civilization shows that they started around > > 6000 years ago or > > say 6000 BC. So it would appear very illogical that > > the God handed > > the Vedas to the First Man at the beginning of the > > Creation. Its all > > a matter of one's belief only. Palentological > > evidence has shown > > existence of huge dinosaur bones, skeletons and body > > structures, yet > > we are still struggling to find the lost palaces and > > temples of Great > > Lord Rama's era, which supposedly happened in > > tretayuga some 2 > > million years ago! So how come we can find dinosaur > > structures almost > > on daily basis around the world thesedays, yet not > > able to locate our > > great ancient civilizations which are of more recent > > history. Yet > > everyone has acknowledged the physical evidence of > > Mahabharata war > > and Lord Krishna's existence has been verified > > beyond doubt since it > > happened just 5000 years ago! > > > > > > > > 2. Linking Everything: So if you link the handing > > over of Vedas by > > God to the First Man at the beginning of > > civilization and yet history > > of written languages is just 6000 to 8000 years old, > > then it would > > appear that God handed over Vedas to Man(when the > > first man came) > > about one million years. At the same time the > > ancient man is just > > learning how to grow crops, develop animal farms, > > build houses etc., > > He has no idea about languages and here God gives > > him the great Vedas > > in a complicated language called Sanskrit: So what > > is the man > > supposed to do (All this appears so humorous and > > illogical).. Stop > > all his work and start learning Sanskrit grammar or > > start developing > > sanskrit grammar, when he has no idea what languages > > are . His > > primary concern is to get next meal for himself and > > his dependents. > > Heavy Rains, hot sun and other types of offensive > > climatic changes > > are affecting this man and yet he is supposed to > > study these > > documents from God. I doubt if such a thing happened > > and even if > > there was one in 40 million chance of such a thing > > happening, then > > that man would have thrown away those papers on one > > corner and > > continue with his usual work as if nothing had > > happened. In nutshell > > it's all a matter of belief only. > > > > > > > > 3. The Vedas are the Great Truth in their own > > regard and > > palentological evidence exists undeniably as another > > great truth. So > > these two great streams do not mix at all. > > Obviously the various > > developments of Satayuga and Tretayuga (Hinduism) > > either did not > > happen at all or they happened on another earth > > which might have been > > identical to this earth. Then all such developments > > were recorded in > > Sanskrit by great ancient rishis, including Vedas, > > and brought to > > this earth , when man (on this earth) was > > intelligent enough to > > understand and acknowledge them. So Devas and Asuras > > are/were another > > men from another earth/planet. So basically when we > > pray to > > God/Devatas/Devi we are praying to great powerful > > men and women who > > do not reside on this earth. Again this is one more > > logic, which you > > may like very much or may not agree at all.. when we > > chant the > > mantras for various Devatas/Devis, we have > > tremendous confidence and > > belief that our voices are reaching the heavenly > > abodes of those > > powerful forces, who exist billions of miles above > > earth, when in > > reality our voices cannot be heard by people who are > > just few feet > > away from us. Yet we belief that fire god and/or the > > mantras connect > > us to those great gods and goddesses somehow. So its > > all a matter of > > faith and we do not like to even have a single doubt > > about this > > phenomenon of chanting mantras and their effects. > > Also > === message truncated === > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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