Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Greetings Deviating from the main topic of "Astrology is it vedic or not" - this para in Mr Ananthji's email has progressed me in asking this query. "This Veda (Atharva Veda) also talks about right hand and left hand practices. Because of such left hand practices (Evil practices), this veda has been set aside by satwik people." Query: I presume left hand practices are what is called tamasic in general parlance. Pls understand I am not trying to questions anyones authority or any ancient text but just an inquisitive mind here. If Vedas were written by God, as a gentleman said or to properly put it given by God, then how come God prescribed left hand practices" I hope this email doesn't create a controversy, as this is not the intention. Just being curious here and loving responses would be most welcome. Pls correct and guide if needed. Joy and Light Sunil John Mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Dear Sunil, Perhaps it is how one interpretes Vedas that matters.You are right in saying that God could not create Left hand and right hand practices.It would have been better if Anantaji had given examples of what he means by left hand practices.One has to understand that what might appear to be left hand to day might not have been viewed as such in distant past. Again hindu scriptures do not have a habit of sweeping unpleasant things, should they exist, under the carpet and pretending that they do not exist. I would like to give you a link to understand part of the atharvaveda better. Go to http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/miscarticles/eitav.html You might get a diferent perspective of Atharva Veda. Chandrashekhar. sunil john [jjnet2000_in ]Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:44 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Left hand practices (Deviating from Astrology is it vedic) Dear Ramadasji, Ananthji,Chandrashekharji and Learned members, Greetings Deviating from the main topic of "Astrology is it vedic or not" - this para in Mr Ananthji's email has progressed me in asking this query. "This Veda (Atharva Veda) also talks about right hand and left hand practices. Because of such left hand practices (Evil practices), this veda has been set aside by satwik people." Query: I presume left hand practices are what is called tamasic in general parlance. Pls understand I am not trying to questions anyones authority or any ancient text but just an inquisitive mind here. If Vedas were written by God, as a gentleman said or to properly put it given by God, then how come God prescribed left hand practices" I hope this email doesn't create a controversy, as this is not the intention. Just being curious here and loving responses would be most welcome. Pls correct and guide if needed. Joy and Light Sunil John Mumbai Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaaya Sri Raghavendraaya Namaha Sri Guruve Namaha Sri Guru Naama Smarana Pranams The question posed is absolutely right. Exposition on this aspect is lengthy not only for the list but also for individuals. Yes there are left hand practices, and Dr. Apte of Pune University in his research compendium called MantarAvarnavaha compiles the elucidations. I referred the compendium in my earlier mail. What little I know about Vedas, I shall put forth with the blessings from my Guru and I dedicate to him. Veda is the sacred knowledge, holy learning, the scriptures. Originally, there were only three Vedas-Rig, Yajur and Sama Veda, which are collectively called "TAYIE"-the sacred triad. But the fourth Veda called Atharva Veda was subsequently added to them. Each of the Vedas (at least the TRAYIE") has two distinct parts- the MANTRA OR SAMHITA and BRAHMANA.According to the philosophy and strict faith; the Vedas are " a -paurusheya ". This means that these are not human compositions, being supposed to be directly revealed by the SUPREME (HIM) as SHRUTI (that is what is heard or revealed). SMRITI is what remembered and is the work of human origin.. VEDANGA are certain classes of Vedas regarded as auxiliary to the Vedas and designed to aid in the correct pronunciation and interpretation of the text and right employment of Mantras in ceremonials. VEDANGA are six: SHIKSHA: Science of proper articulation and pronunciation CHANDSA: Science of prosody VYAKARNA: Grammar NIRUKTA: Etymological explanation of difficult Vedic works Jyothisha Kalpa:Ritual/Ceremonials THE END OF VEDAS 1. UPANISHADS: Comes at the end of Vedas 2. The last of the SIX principal DARSANAS or systems of this philosophy because it teaches the ultimate aim and scope of Veda or because it is based on UPANISHADS which comes at the end of Vedas. This system of philosophy is sometimes called UTTARAMIMAMSA and this being regarded as sequel to Jaimini's POORVAMIMAMSA. This POORVAMIMAMSA is quite a distinct system. These MIMAMSA are the popular pantheistic creed of HINDU philosophy, regarding as it does, the world as synthetically derived as ONE ETERNAL PRINCIPLE, the BRAHMAN or SUPREME SPIRIT. Now I leave this to you to understand why Atharva Veda is separated with the TRAYIE.ATHARVA VEDA also deals with TANTRAS and MANTRAS fro Spiritual emancipation, including liberation during ones own life time in VEDANTA as JEEVAN MUKTI.I do not want to give examples of certain VIBHATSYA (hateful for normal SATWICKS) Rituals as espoused in this VEDA for attaining SIDDHIS.Let us not emphasise on this. What VEDAS (TRAYIE) speaks of good of way of living to attain HIM. There are processes and to me this ATHARVA VEDA is process book, if we take the SATWICK VRITTIS. What is VEDA? I have already stated. And to the extension to the above BIBLE is the VEDA for Christians and KORAN for Muslims, if you really see the spirit in the interpretation of VEDAS, in general. Hindu DHARMA rests on VEDIC philosophy and it is the way of living. The same way of living has been propagated by prophet Mohammed (Peace be on him) and Christ, as one school of thought and thus transformed into respective religion. We can quote other religions and prophets also. One thing "AAKASHAT PATHITHAM THOYAM, SAAGRAM PRATI GATCHATI""(All water falling from sky, joins the Ocean). So what ever and the way we practice, ultimately is to reach HIM.SAT KARMA is what the ultimate requirement is. Please read this last para in the context of your Query. The last para will seem to be deviating but a careful attention will make this falling in place. I do not know any other exposition beyond this. This is only the TRUTH I know about VEDAS with the blessings from GURU. Regards Ananthakrishnan Parthasarathy Short Name: AnanthChandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sunil, Perhaps it is how one interpretes Vedas that matters.You are right in saying that God could not create Left hand and right hand practices.It would have been better if Anantaji had given examples of what he means by left hand practices.One has to understand that what might appear to be left hand to day might not have been viewed as such in distant past. Again hindu scriptures do not have a habit of sweeping unpleasant things, should they exist, under the carpet and pretending that they do not exist. I would like to give you a link to understand part of the atharvaveda better. Go to http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/miscarticles/eitav.html You might get a diferent perspective of Atharva Veda. Chandrashekhar. sunil john [jjnet2000_in ]Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:44 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Left hand practices (Deviating from Astrology is it vedic) Dear Ramadasji, Ananthji,Chandrashekharji and Learned members, Greetings Deviating from the main topic of "Astrology is it vedic or not" - this para in Mr Ananthji's email has progressed me in asking this query. "This Veda (Atharva Veda) also talks about right hand and left hand practices. Because of such left hand practices (Evil practices), this veda has been set aside by satwik people." Query: I presume left hand practices are what is called tamasic in general parlance. Pls understand I am not trying to questions anyones authority or any ancient text but just an inquisitive mind here. If Vedas were written by God, as a gentleman said or to properly put it given by God, then how come God prescribed left hand practices" I hope this email doesn't create a controversy, as this is not the intention. Just being curious here and loving responses would be most welcome. Pls correct and guide if needed. Joy and Light Sunil John Mumbai Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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