Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Dear Rajeev Kumar Ji, Thank you for the quick reply. If you do not know and do not belive in Astrology, then why are you wasting your and our time here. Because, we believe in Astrology and discuss the related topics here. Hope you understand now, that you may have to find a discussion site for your non astrological discussions. Hope you do not mind me saying this, because, our resources are engaged in your discussion and learning is not happening, so please take your discusions privately. Regards Rao P.S: Rajeev, I have also removed all the ???????? from the subject, as I do not like more than one ? vedic astrology, Rajeev Kumar <satpath1> wrote: > Namaste Rao Ji, > > You are asking questions to wrong person. I don't believe in Astrology at all. > > Regards > > Rajeev > > Rao N <raon1008> wrote: > Dear Rajeev Kumar, > > Namaste, > > Thanks for all your contribution on the thread > " Re: Astrology is it Vedic ???????????? " > > Honestly, I am loosing my intrest in rading this thread, > so for a quick change, why do not you answer to my > following question:- > > I am struggling to understand why the Nakshastra Lordship > are as follows:- > > For example : - > Ashivini - Ketu, why not Sun > Bharani - Venu, why not Mars > ....... etc., > > I would like to understand, the reasons behind the above > assignment of the Nakshatra Lords. > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > Regards > Rao > > vedic astrology, Kun Jyo <jyothi_kunder> > wrote: > > Somebody should have put this long back, it would have saved me > from wasting so much of my precious time. > > Jyothi > > > > Saikumar <astrossk@c...> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajiv, > > > > Sorry for putting this bluntly. > > > > What are you trying to prove? > > > > What if Vedas do not support Astrology. We still want to learn it, > and as we know, we are all in the right forum to learn the divine > science. > > > > If your idea is to distract people by creating non-existent > controversies, you better find some other group. > > > > If you find some people on this list buying your arguement and want > to argue with you, I think you are better of arguing off the list, > instead of flooding the list with your junk mail. > > > > If the Gurus think it is pertinent material for learning Vedic > Astrology they would share with us anyway. > > > > Hope you understand my point. It is plain and simple --> If you are > not contributing to increase the knowledge of Astrology(Vedic or non- > Vedic -according to you), we are not happy reading your mails here. > > > > I request Guru Narasimha to moderate more closely and try to > restrict people who are trying to distract the attention of the > students. > > > > Sorry if I have hurt anyone's feelings with my mail. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Sai > > > > > > > > Rajeev Kumar <satpath1> > > 2003/09/04 22:36:00 > > vedic astrology > > Cc: > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Astrology is it > Vedic ???????????? > > > > > > Namaste Hari Ji, > > > > Let's first resolve the main issue that whether Astrology( As a > concept of fate ) has references in Vedas or not ? > > > > Other issues will be resolved later. > > > > Yes Karma /Dharma, atman, god are vedic concepts. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Rajeev > > > > > > > > > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > Dear Rajeev, > > > > Your position is that Jyotish refers to astronomy and not > astrology. > > That is a point to be considered. > > > > However I am interested in knowing how did you prove that Astrology > > fails the tests of truth given in your email. You have just stated > > the same without proof. > > > > Since you have read or trying to understand the Vedas, I request > you > > to state if atman, birth/rebirth, karma, dharma are vedic concepts > > or not. > > > > May I pose a practical question to you: Based on the vedas, what is > > the most appropriate time for performing a marriage? By time is > > meant which period of time shall you choose to perform the > ceremony? > > Please dont give the answer in terms of the age of the individuals > > who are to be married. Your answer should be in accordance with the > > principles stated in the Ve! das. Broadly speaking, is there any > vedic > > concept such as quality of time (ie., a good time or a bad time) and > > how is this quality determined? > > > > regards > > Hari > > > > PS: I think Chandrasekar made a typo and probably meant "...opinion > > ON vedas..." and not "...opinion AS vedas...". > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Kumar > <satpath1> > > wrote: > > > Namaste Chandrashekhar Ji, > > > > > > My prime question is whether there is refernece to Astrology(as > > concept of fate) in Vedas. If you say yes then please quote the > > references. > > > > > > You also said that you respect Swami Dayananda as Veda(Learned, > > Knowledge) then what's the problem in quoting his opinion ?. > > > > > > And who can deny the tests of truth I gave in my last mail. > > > > > > Jyotish means knowledge of light etymologically. It is used to > > > refer to the science of astronomy. It DOES NOT actuall! y mean > > astrology even though due to our ignorance we beleive Jyoti sh to > > mean astrology. > > > Infact there has been no word in Sanskrit for astrology as the > > concept of fate being decided by planets was non-existent till very > > recent times (a few thousand years ago). > > > > > > Those who claim to be masters of vedic astrology are just making > > false claims since there is not even a remote reference to > astrology > > in Vedas. > > > Thus, you will find that in none of these books on vedic > astrology > > or vedaang jyotish is any shloka or sukta given from vedas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rajeev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Dear Rajeev Kumar Ji,Thank you for the quick reply.If you do not know and do not belive in Astrology, thenwhy are you wasting your and our time here. Because, webelieve in Astrology and discuss the related topics here.Hope you understand now, that you may have to find a discussion site for your non astrological discussions.Hope you do not mind me saying this, because, our resourcesare engaged in your discussion and learning is not happening,so please take your discusions privately.RegardsRaoP.S: Rajeev, I have also removed all the ???????? from the subject,as I do not like more than one ?--- In vedic astrology, Rajeev Kumar <satpath1> wrote:> Namaste Rao Ji,> > You are asking questions to wrong person. I don't believe in Astrology at all.> > Regards> > Rajeev> > Rao N <raon1008> wrote:> Dear Rajeev Kumar,> > Namaste,> > Thanks for all your contribution on the thread > " Re: Astrology is it Vedic ???????????? "> > Honestly, I am loosing my intrest in rading this thread,> so for a quick change, why do not you answer to my > following question:-> > I am struggling to understand why the Nakshastra Lordship > are as follows:-> > For example : -> Ashivini - Ketu, why not Sun > Bharani - Venu, why not Mars> ....... etc.,> > I would like to understand, the reasons behind the above > assignment of the Nakshatra Lords.> > Thanks for your help in advance.> > Regards> Rao> > vedic astrology, Kun Jyo <jyothi_kunder> > wrote:> > Somebody should have put this long back, it would have saved me > from wasting so much of my precious time.> > Jyothi> > > > Saikumar <astrossk@c...> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajiv,> > > > Sorry for putting this bluntly.> > > > What are you trying to prove?> > > > What if Vedas do not support Astrology. We still want to learn it, > and as we know, we are all in the right forum to learn the divine > science.> > > > If your idea is to distract people by creating non-existent > controversies, you better find some other group.> > > > If you find some people on this list buying your arguement and want > to argue with you, I think you are better of arguing off the list, > instead of flooding the list with your junk mail.> > > > If the Gurus think it is pertinent material for learning Vedic > Astrology they would share with us anyway.> > > > Hope you understand my point. It is plain and simple --> If you are > not contributing to increase the knowledge of Astrology(Vedic or non-> Vedic -according to you), we are not happy reading your mails here.> > > > I request Guru Narasimha to moderate more closely and try to > restrict people who are trying to distract the attention of the > students.> > > > Sorry if I have hurt anyone's feelings with my mail.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Sai> > > > > > > > Rajeev Kumar <satpath1>> > 2003/09/04 22:36:00> > To: vedic astrology> > Cc: > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Astrology is it > Vedic ????????????> > > > > > Namaste Hari Ji,> > > > Let's first resolve the main issue that whether Astrology( As a > concept of fate ) has references in Vedas or not ?> > > > Other issues will be resolved later.> > > > Yes Karma /Dharma, atman, god are vedic concepts.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Rajeev> > > > > > > > > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > > > Dear Rajeev,> > > > Your position is that Jyotish refers to astronomy and not > astrology. > > That is a point to be considered.> > > > However I am interested in knowing how did you prove that Astrology > > fails the tests of truth given in your email. You have just stated > > the same without proof. > > > > Since you have read or trying to understand the Vedas, I request > you > > to state if atman, birth/rebirth, karma, dharma are vedic concepts > > or not.> > > > May I pose a practical question to you: Based on the vedas, what is > > the most appropriate time for performing a marriage? By time is > > meant which period of time shall you choose to perform the > ceremony? > > Please dont give the answer in terms of the age of the individuals > > who are to be married. Your answer should be in accordance with the > > principles stated in the Ve! das. Broadly speaking, is there any > vedic > > concept such as quality of time (ie., a good time or a bad time)and > > how is this quality determined?> > > > regards> > Hari> > > > PS: I think Chandrasekar made a typo and probably meant "...opinion > > ON vedas..." and not "...opinion AS vedas...". > > > > vedic astrology, Rajeev Kumar > <satpath1> > > wrote:> > > Namaste Chandrashekhar Ji,> > > > > > My prime question is whether there is refernece to Astrology(as > > concept of fate) in Vedas. If you say yes then please quote the > > references.> > > > > > You also said that you respect Swami Dayananda as Veda(Learned, > > Knowledge) then what's the problem in quoting his opinion ?.> > > > > > And who can deny the tests of truth I gave in my last mail.> > > > > > Jyotish means knowledge of light etymologically. It is used to> > > refer to the science of astronomy. It DOES NOT actuall! y mean > > astrology even though due to our ignorance we beleive Jyoti sh to > > mean astrology.> > > Infact there has been no word in Sanskrit for astrology as the > > concept of fate being decided by planets was non-existent till very > > recent times (a few thousand years ago).> > > > > > Those who claim to be masters of vedic astrology are just making > > false claims since there is not even a remote reference to > astrology > > in Vedas.> > > Thus, you will find that in none of these books on vedic > astrology > > or vedaang jyotish is any shloka or sukta given from vedas.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Rajeev> > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > Do you ?> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > Sponsor> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > Do you ?> > > > > Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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