Left hand

May 1, 2003

Ramapriya D <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi Raji,

Ra debs in Moola. Heard of kodanda Ra, right? Kodanda Ra is known to flood in

wealth for natives who have it in quadrants, esp 4H. It can be very

inauspicious for Ar natives, though, 'cause Ra will also be in mks.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

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Thursday, May 01, 2003 11:18 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

Hi Rk & Rama Priya,

How can rahu is in scorpio is beneficial.Is it debliated right??

Thanks

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I am 'sort of' getting what 'kodanda', or it's applicability is- but I don't

understand the right leg examle /perhaps I don't have background knowledge/- I

like the story very much, though

/but, don't we all go with right leg first? /I played- I do, ha, ha/

AnnaSanjay Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

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Dear KPK

What is the meaning of the word 'Kodanda'? For example, the most famous painting

of Bhagavan Sri Rama is known as 'Kodanda Rama' and forms the standard for every

picture of the lord. However, in that picture there is one very small error -

the right leg is slightly in front instead of the left leg. It should be

otherwise i.e. the left leg should be forward. The right leg is forward for Sri

Krishna and crosses over the left as a sign of complete destruction of all evil.

So, what is kodanda. Kodanda is the 'BOW of SAGITTARIUS'. In dual signs Rahu can

aspect the Kodanda of Rama which is in Sagittarius. However, Dhanuvad Ketu is

the best example of the Kodanda.

With best wishes & regards,

I remain

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handHello RampriyaKodand Rahu means Rahu in Dual signs right ..

Gemini,Virgo,Saggi and Pieces...Am I Correct.... I have Vir Ascendant, kodand

Rahu inSaggi with Jup in saggi. Jup in Own House.... Stillin Such cases like

where Another Planet occupy dualsign along with Rahu, Does Kondand Rahu is

consideredin such situation as it has been also said Rahuusually behaves like

the planet he is with?RegardsKPK--- Rajeswari Shankar

<rajeswarishankar >wrote:> Hi Ramapriya, Thanks.What about ketu & Rahu

in 3/9> from lagna and both are debliated??(Ketu is in> taurus & Rahu is in

scorpio).Is it makes any> difference?? ThanksRaji> > Ramapriya D

<hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:Hi Raji, Ra debs> in Moola. Heard of kodanda Ra, right?

Kodanda Ra is> known to flood in wealth for natives who have it in> quadrants,

esp 4H. It can be very inauspicious for> Ar natives, though, 'cause Ra will

also be in mks.> Warm regards, Ramapriyahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com ----- Original> Message

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Hello RK

I agree with u that it is not always true that

debilitated planets give bad results.

In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in Own

house saggi) in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars in

Scorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha was really

rewarding during my education. And Just before end of

Rahu Mahdasha, In Rahu Mangal I got employed and

started earning.

Regards

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--- Rup Krishen Baqaya <rkbaqaya wrote:

> Well it is not always that debilitated planets give

> bad results.In respect of a debilitated venus in the

> 2nd house for leo ascendant,Bhrigu says that the

> native lives his life like a lord.Even a debilitated

> saturn in the 5th house for saggitarius ascendant is

> not bad.For that matter Mars in cancer in the 7th

> house is not supposed to be mangli dosha.Please

> understand astrology is infinite.You cannot simplify

> astrology by merely saying that debilitated is bad

> and exalted is good.An exalted Sun in the lagna

> gives too much ego,which isolates the man and makes

> him many enemies.There was one astrologer in

> Maharashtra,very very famous late Mr.katway,he died

> in 1949.He was of the view that exalted planets give

> bad results and debilitated planets give good

> results.In order to balance your outlook,i suggest

> that you read his series of books on each planet.

> RK

>

> Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar

> wrote:Hi Rk & Rama Priya, How can rahu is in scorpio

> is beneficial.Is it debliated right?? ThanksRaji

>

> Ramapriya D <hubli wrote:Hi RK,

> Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8

> signs you've mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm

> surprised that Aq, which he co-lords, is missing.

> Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg or Pi

> is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju

> who's Ra's antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for

> why Ra in either 9H or 12H is considered so

> undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural

> zodiac). Just for interest, can you quote the

> specific sloka and chapter numbers of BPHS where

> Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs

> you've mentioned? Thanks again for making this an

> interesting thread. And if you've anything similar

> to say about Ke, please do; information about the

> nodes isn't copious. Warm regards,

> Ramapriyahubli -

> Rup Krishen Baqaya To:

> vedic astrology Thursday, May

> 01, 2003 8:45 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Re:

> Left hand

> Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance

> of giving sickness.That is why, you will notice that

> in all my posts i have mentioned that the totality

> of the circumstances is to be seen.Let us say that

> in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong

> and the native is also not running a period which

> can cause bad health,there would be no harm in

> wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if

> otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar

> i had explained this while mentioning about the gem

> of a planet placed in the 6th house.One more

> point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu in

> the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many

> many great men had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi

> had raahu in the 10th,so had Subhash Bose,as also

> Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It of

> course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For

> example, i myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign

> Taurus.Every time Raahu antara came in my life,it

> gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents happened

> which raised my career profile to great heights.You

> see raahu in the

>

signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius

> and pisces is always capable of conferring good

> effects,according to Parashara.And 10th house raahu

> is definitely not always bad.hope this clarifies.Bye

> RK

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Om Namah ShivayaDear RKi wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who

suffer in rahu dasa.regardsparthaOm Tat Sat--- In

vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> wrote:> Hi RK,> >

Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs you've mentioned for Ra

being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which he co-lords, is missing. Also, I

would've thought that Ra in either Sg or Pi is some kinda curse because they're

lorded by Ju who's Ra's antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in

either 9H or 12H is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the

natural zodiac).> > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and

chapter numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs

you've mentioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting thread. And if

you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do; information about the nodes

isn't copious.> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli@v...> > ----- Original

Message ----- > Rup Krishen Baqaya > To:

vedic astrology > Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet

in the 8th has a chance of giving sickness.That is why, you will notice that in

all my posts i have mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be

seen.Let us say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and the

native is also not running a period which can cause bad health,there would be

no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if otherwise indicated.In

fact in my letter to Shankar i had explained this while mentioning about the

gem of a planet placed in the 6th house.One more point.In your post you have

mentioned about Raahu in the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many

many great men had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so

had Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It of

course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example, i myself have

Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time Raahu antara came in my life,it

gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents happened which raised my career

profile to great heights.You see raahu in the

signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius and pisces is always

capable of conferring good effects,according to Parashara.And 10th house raahu

is definitely not always bad.hope this clarifies.Bye RKArchives:

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Dear Partha,

I think we may just have missed something that RK's trying to convey. I don't

think he's singing Ra's praises. If I've understood him correctly, I think he's

trying to say that Ra isn't always malefic for all, esp when alone in 6H, 8H,

10H or 11H and in one of the 8 rasis he mentions. What's really worth waiting

for is the reference of Parasara's quote in BPHS of Ra's beneficience.

Warm regards,

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Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:18 AM

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> Om Namah Shivaya> Dear RK> > > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there

are many who suffer in > rahu dasa.> > regards> partha Archives:

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Dear KPK :-)

1. In your D-1, Rahu is in Sagi, but whom is it with? Jupiter in own sign! That

is why that is a "neecha bhanga" (Cancelling of the debilitation.)2. In your

D-9, Rahu is in Scorpio, but whom is it with? Mars in own sign! That is why,

neecha bhanga again!So there is no doubt that your Rahu will not give result

like a debilitated planet. Did you see that?There are a lot other rules of

neecha bhanga. That is why it is always better to submit the birth data when

you are talking about a chart. I doubt who is the one who can tell a result of

a planet correctly only hearing which sign it is in :-)As I stated in earlier

post, there can be hardly any good effect from debilitated planet unless it is

neecha bhanga. And when there is neecha bhanga, you can not expect debilitated

results anymore! That is what the name of the yoga says! :-)

What you said, about good effects in Rahu periods. That can be a neecha bhanga

raja yoga also! It is not possible without seeing your chart that is why I was

telling about the chart data. The fact is that, you have already neecha bhanga

that is enough not to give you the maleficness as from a debilitated planet.

To me, the only benefit from a debilitated planet is that when the planet is

engaged in a very bad yoga. So being very weak in debilitation, it can not give

much effect of the yoga. It happens in the case when the yoga is very bad, even

worse than a debilitated planet's effect. That is why even having a debilitated

planet is better than having the effect of that yoga :-)I do not know any other

benefit from a debilitated planet (otherwise neecha bhanga). Well there might

be some yoga for debilitated planets, but I am talking about general rules.

So if any member can enlighten me, I would be very grateful :-)Regards,Tanvir

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Friday, May 02, 2003 10:25 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

Hello RKI agree with u that it is not always true thatdebilitated planets give

bad results.In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in Ownhouse saggi)

in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars inScorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha

was reallyrewarding during my education. And Just before end ofRahu Mahdasha, In

Rahu Mangal I got employed andstarted earning.RegardsKPK

May 2, 2003

Dear Sanjay Jee,

Thanks for the excellent post :-)Regards,Tanvir

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Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:43 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

||Om brihaspataye namah||

Dear Sri Baqaya ji,

Namaste.

In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives excellent results,

(b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results

and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa gives good results

A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first rate malefic and

evil planet and shall give all the evil results that one can possibly imagine in

a chart. Now, with this premise, when Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up

the sleeve' are the words of Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart

with Rahu in the fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without

fail, and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth

house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring death

like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by the Kumbha rasi.

B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view of Jyotish.

Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine

gives excellent results" which is Correct and I fully agree with this, but the

rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra

placed in a trine gives excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the

Kendra lord shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very

simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in Bhavartha

ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give its results whereas

the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results of Rahu during its dasa. So,

Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed

in a trine shall give results. this is very simple to understand. For example,

Vrisab Lagna with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said

all kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu has

conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e. Rahu dasa was

actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna. Then when Saturn dasa

came, the life has become like hell for the native. Even hell would seem a

better place. So you see during Saturn dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu

results. This happens with Rahu.

C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at the reverse

Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results invariably so terrible? In the

first case Rahu indicates the native and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So,

native is in a Bhoga mood with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver

mood in Jupiter antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for

Jupiter dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as

these are very general results.

Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell stones nor rituals.

However selling gemstones or performing rituals is not a bad thing. These would

not be classified as vices.

However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be Vedic

astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do rituals and take some

magic things. It is our best intention to do something seriously about this

misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly these people do not know anything and are

not serious about learning either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are

many who will share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something

soon.

With best wishes & regards,

I remain

Sanjay Rath

May 2, 2003

Anybody says if lagna is pieces & Rahu is in scorpio(9th place) & its lord mars

is in 10th place saggitarius??How the rahu dasa will be ??I would be

appreciate if somebody clarifies my doubt.Note that I am a learner in astrolgy.

Thanks

Raji

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