Ayanamsa: Lahiri Vs. Raman

August 27, 2003

Dear all,

Allow me a short comment:

My personal experience will definitely point at Lahiri if not only for a simple

but very clear reason: myself.

I have Mercury at 29:37:56 Pisces with Lahiri.

Many different anyanamsas other than Lahiri will place Mercuri in Aries/9th house.

I currently run Saturn/Mercury in Vimshottari and the type of the negative

effects or even the positive ones during this period do not suggest in anyway

that Mercury should be in Aries nor in the 9th house.

Current circumstances are 100% a reflection of Mercury in the 8th.

Kind regards

Jay Weiss

"Laboure Denis" <Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR>Date:

2003/08/27 10:18:50<vedic astrology>Cc: Subject:

[vedic astrology] Ayanamsa: Lahiri Vs. Raman Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:50

+0200 "Dhira Krsna BCS" <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net>Re:

Ayanamsa: Lahiri Vs. RamanI have been doing quite some research in different

ayanamsas, and finallyconcluded Lahiri is the correct one. It would be

interesting to have achart that has some planet about 1 degree or even a few

seconds from theedge of a sign or D-chart. I'm sure there are many like that.

Then it canbe checked that another ayanamsa will be incorrect in explaining

events.Dear Dhira,These are my birthdatas: 24 october 1956 Paris 11h15 CET

(10h15 UT). In mychart, Jupiter is i! n Leo with Lahiri. It is in Virgo with

Raman (and Bhasin)ayanamsas.From 30 years, I tried several ayanamsas. I started

my studies in siderealastrology with the Fagan/Bradley ayanamsa. At this time,

in the west, clearindian books were difficult to get and the western school of

siderealastrology was florishing (I was also influenced by the Grace Inglis

bookabout planetary periods which used this ayanamsa). When I turned to

Indianastrology 20 years ago, I used the Lahiri ayanamsa. It was better for

theplanetary periods, but not totally satisfying. So, I am currently testing

anayanamsa close to the Bhasin one. It seems (to myself and my students) togive

excellent results with vimshottari dasas.It may possibe to answer I should have

get better results with Lahiri if myway to read the dasas ahd bhuktis should

have been different. However, Ihave tried everything to improve my efficiency

with vimshottari (fromstellar a! strology to ashtakavarga, etc.).Best

regardsDenis< /TT>

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dear rageshwari,

there are other ways to express yrself ,instead of stooping down to the imbeciles level.

God bless

-

rageshwari75

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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:20 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Ayanamsa: Lahiri Vs. Raman

Sudeep,You are an asshole! (Just so that you know that we can abuse and swear

too). India is not third-world and shit, but you are too screwed up to

understand its culture. You pompous bastard... Jyotishies are not

prostitutes...it is you who is a pimp and hence finds everything worthy of

prostitution.This post is not written in rage, but with cool mind. This mail

has been written to let psychos like you know that Jyotishes and Jyotish vidya

are not garbage in the street that anyone can take for granted.Now get the fuck

off and don't ever take Sri Ramdas Rao's name with your dirty mouth. He is a

saint and he has helped hundreds of people with his knowledge. Whereas you are

just a sucker...Dear Members:I BEG FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS. I HAVE USED THE LOWEST

LANGUAGE A HUMAN COULD POSSIBLY. BUT SOMEONE HAD TO TELL THIS IDIOT WHAT HE IS.

I CANNOT STAND INSULT OF SRI RAMDAS RAO, JYOTISH VIDYA, MY FELLOW JYOTISHIS,

GURUJIS AND INDIA.Namaste.Rageshwari.vedic astrology,

sudeep suri <vaudeva99> wrote:> DEar Ramdas> You are typical Indian with a

narrow conservative Mind.I am myself getting out of this BULL SHIT JYOTISH

LIST.I have seen astrologers with big Ego but no ability to predict.No wonder

India is a Bull Shit third world country<People Laugh at India as a bunch of

Bufoons Worshipping Snakes and animals all the Time.Hell With your Bloody

Jyotish Gurus.> Thanks> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> OM NAMO

NARAYANAYA> Dear Sudeep,> That means the Astrologers in this list are all idots

eating money of the public.Thanks for your suggestion and giving good reward to

the vedic Astrology.So Prashna Margam is wrong,Brihat Jataka is wrong or Brihat

Parashara Hora Shastra is wrong.> Now you listen to me.I am here not to make

money and by the Blessings of Lord Krishna and Mother Bhuvaneshwari,I dont have

to make money through Vedic Astrology but I am trying to help the people to come

out of their sins done in the previous life which nobody knows and the clues

given through principles of Astrology help us to guide the common man.> This

Astrology Forum is formed not to grab the money of the punlic to help them to

lead a happy life.You can ask most of the members who got thier problems solved

through the remedies which myself or Other Gurus gave to the consultant.> I dont

want anybody in this list talk against Jyotish Shastra and the remedies

mentioned in these.> BTW,How many years of service you have got in this Jyotish

?Dont behave in such manners as the senior Gurus in this list may ban you.>

Recently I have a case of Partial Paralysis,which has been cured within 2 and

half months of starting of the disease.I have instructed the parents of the

girl to go for some remedies and I myself arranged some other remedies which I

dont want to discuss with you and By the Grace of Lord Mrityunjaya ,the

problems are solved and the girl has agin started going to the college to

persue her studies.> Surrendered at the Holy Feet of Mother Bhuvaneshwari,>

Ramadas Rao.> sudeep suri <vaudeva99> wrote:> Dear Sir> Rogue Ratnakar

become a great sage by repeating MARA MARA instead of Rama Rama.It does not

matter how you repeat GODS name .It is your Love and Devotion to the Lord which

counts.Most astrologers are themselves not realised people,infact most of them

are spiritually not at all developed.They read from books and prescribe

remedial measures.And of course astrology + remedial measures is a very

lucarative business. By prayers and Sadhana you can develop your own intuition

which will guide yoou better than any IDIOTIC ASTROLOGER> regards> > monmuk111

<monmuk111> wrote:> > Hello Sudeep:> > Very well said. Your note related

to love and devotion to the supreme > being cooled down all the frustration and

agner I've been feeling > becasue I thought I was doing the wrong mantras, etc.

etc.> > My Atmakaraka changed as well--Sun is my Atmakaraka under Lahiri, but >

Mars became the Atmakara under Raman--this means I was worshipping > the wrong

Ista Devta as well.> > After reading your note, I realized that faith in God

and attempts to > live a righteous life is the ONLY answer for peace and

happiness.> > It really doesn't matter whether I chant the Mars (Narshimha)

mantras > or Rahu (Durga) matras. OR whether I worhip a specific Ista Devta. >

This seems to be the right answer, than why are atrologers > prescribing

SPECIFIC yagnas, worship of SPECIFIC gods, chanting of > SPECIFIC mantras? PVR

Narshima is even SPECIFIC about the sounds of > words of the mantra and the

mudra when the mantra should be chanted.> > People seek prediction so that they

can build a dam before the > flood,i.e. they can modify their behavior OR take

certain precautions > or avoid certain risks so that the predicted problems by

the > astrologer can be avoided or nullified. > > Now that we've established

that different astrologer have different > prediction for the same native, then

where is the NEED for a > prediction if it is not reliable?> > > Mukund> --- In

vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> > wrote:> > Dear

Mukund> > Develop love and devotion to the LORD who is the indweller.Do >

japaof Gods name .Do SELF enquiry into your real nature.Destiny is > for the

EGO not the ATMAN which is your real nature.As far as > astrology goes Lahiri

Ayanamsa gives better results.Raman Ayanamsa is > to be ignored.But again

Surrender to GOD who is your indweller and > meditation and understanding of

ones ATMIC nature is the only way to > reduce the impact of Prarbadha.Most of

Astrology and astrologers are > A BAG OF GARBAGE.Tell me how many astrologers

have you met who are > spiritually evolved people.Most astrologers are ignorant

idiots who > are just out to make money.In Toronto there is Vijay Shree >

Kaushik.She is the very EPITOME of debauchery which has come in > astrology.And

india is full of them (DE BAUCH ASTROLOGERS) many are > writing books without

even having the ability to see the horoscope.It > is KAL YUG and evil and

Dishonesty rules.Rishi Narad has said in KAL > YUG JAPA YOGA is the only way

to salvation.> > god bless > > om > > > > monmuk111 <monmuk111> wrote:> >

Dear Gentlepeople:> > > > I was used to looking at my chart prepared using the

Lahiri > Ayanamsa. > > Now, a reputed astrologer prepared my chart using the

Raman > Ayanamsa. > > > > In the Raman rashi chart, Sun moved from 7th house to

the 8th house > > and the Navamsha chart TOTALLY changed. > > > > Worst, the

calculation of mahadasa changed. I was under the > > impression that I'm going

through the Mars mahadass until 05/2005; > > however, per Raman, my Rahu

mahadasa began 02/2003 so I'm currently > > going through Rahu mahadasa.> > > >

What the heck is going on? Which one is correct???? This changes > >

everything--I am doing all these poojas and mantras thinking I'm > > going

throug Mars mahadasa. > > > > Now, if I going through Rahu dasa as per Raman,

which one should I > > follow? In fact, both Mars and Rahu are heavy-duty

natural > malefics > > so there is no way to differentiate between them using

my real-life > > experiences as both give negative results and I've been >

experiencing > > consistent negative results.> > > > Is there any

standardization in Jyothish or is it just big heap of > > crock cooked up by

some old sages and Brahmins trying to increase > > their clout and control over

the kings???? Was this Jyotish carried > > on generation after generation by the

Brahmin families and used as > a > > means of income generation? Nothing wrong

with income generation, > but > > everthing wrong with not being able to do

things right > > CONSISTENTLY !!!!> > > > I regret spending two years learning

Jyotish as it now seems like a > > big cross-word puzzle without a right

answer, I wish I had spent > > these two years learning a foriegn language or

getting a second > > masters degree. Everyone seems to be making up their own

asnwers > > which are radicaly different from each other. > > > > The worst of

all is the Systems Approach which says Saturn is the > > most funcational

benefic planet for Scorpio Lagna. Both Parashara > and > > Satyacharya have

clearly said that Saturn is funcional malefic for > > Scorpio Lagna so why

screw around with that the original teachers > > said?> > > > This experience

once more strengthens my statement that NO > > ASTROLOGER, VEDIC OR WESTERN,

CAN MAKE AN ACCURATE PREDICTION.> > > > P.S. I'm not picking on the Brahmins,

I'm a Brahmin myself.> > > > Mukund> > > > > >

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My chart has has atleast two planets which are within 1 to 1.5 degrees of the

sign and another two planets with 2 to 3 degrees of the sign.

If you are interested I can send you my .jhd file.

Let me know where to send it.

Regards,

Sai