Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 I was earlier not going to react to your mail since Mars is very close and now I do this with as much compassion as possible. 1. The intention of my SOS was to help this lady as much as possible. If she is unable to change her decision it is because she has her own reasons and no amount of "Professional Counselling" has helped so far. If we are unable to stop this abortion, then atleast we can try to avoid more complications , it is said in medical astrology timing for operation is imp. Also, I had heard that there is something like a passing time of the soul, if the child is aborted on a suitable time maybe there would be easy passage of the soul ( dont want to get into debate here if soul is there or not at this stage). If i am not wrong then Sanjayji might be taking case studies in the current conference on Timing of Death Occurence and passage of the soul to diff lokas - something like that. 2. I have received emails from senior astrologers who have created the time of abortion chart and given some analysis as to how this can effect the health of mother, and thereby the 4 yr old as no one is there to take care of her etc etc. and also the transits being very powerful, karmic issues surrounding children in this womans chart etc. 3. About me being judgemental, maybe i was, maybe it was only observation to state that things are tough on that woman and 4 r old child. My mastery of english language isn't good and hence can create controversy, I didnt mean to be judgemental about that lady only wanted to state facts for astrologers to verify birth time of the chart, my choice of words were inappropriate maybe since i was in big hurry to post. The lady is trying her level best to bring her life to normal, facing problems with spirits as she lives opposite a cemetry, and senior SJC Gurus are helping her personally and already some good effects are seen. As for me not liking her or disapproving of her sex it doesnt arise since I personally that we humans need to learn a lot about the divinity of sex and hope one day i learn it too. What i disapproved was she not taking care of her 4 yr old. 4. Religion says abortion is wrong, spiritualists speak that everything is perfect in this world as it is happening in Gods perfect design with every event in our lives as a test, lesson or a tool to learn from and experience our inner divinity more. 5. As for my mail being compared with Mr.Suri's I think there is a huge difference between belitting Jyotish and asking for advice from Jyotishas. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, some give short ones some give long ones, if "A" draws 6 on his hand, the person opposite "B" will see it as 9 and no one is wrong here, its just a matter of interepretation, positioning etc. My intention was never to belittle anyone or create havoc in the list just to see if something can be done to ease the pain. Best regards to you. Light and Joy Sunil John Mumbai. I'm sorry. I do not mean any direct offense but this kind of mail pains me as much as the recent ones by mr. suri about how awful jyotish and jyotishis are. this must be the mars thing. so many strange posts within a few weeks! I have to say that this is a terrible way to deal with this situation. I also have to say that the original mail was not that nonjudgmental either ("avoids sending her 4 yr old to day care, hides behind her and uses her as her sounding board, mother is easily depressed and too much of anger and involvement in sex" etc etc). that is loaded language, to say the least! but I am hoping that the pers on who asked the question did it with all sincerity. anyway, without knowing exactly what the circumstances are in this woman's life and what sort of a state her mind is in, we cannot say that she is a "murderer" and that this kind of "sin" is one which the sinner should be "hanged" for! that is terrible to hear and painful to read or imagine. please. there should be no religion that would cast somebody in the dung heap like this with no promise of salvation! I sincerely wish she finds some peace within herself whatever her decision at the end. regards,raniFilm &; TV Extras urgently required in your area - See Yourself in major Films &; TV? Call 0907 1512440 to Register. calls cost 150pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Dear Sunil, What is the timezone for this ladies' chart? The coordinates are for Australia, is there any daylight savings there? Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotisha http://www.radhadesh.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Dear Sunil, please call me rani. please see my reply to Sudharsan. and I apologize if I sounded unduly harsh toward you. that was not my intention. I understand you came from a genuine caring for what happens to the lady in question. take care. regards, rani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Dear Rani, Thats ok, no worries we are part of the same Jyotish family here. I also understood that your strong views reflected the sentiments of how much women folk have been suppressed here in india, I apologise for my wrong english in the first place - more connection needed for me in displaying whats on my mind and what i type. Thank you for your compassionate and pardoning nature. Best wishes Sunil John vedic astrology, "raindancer_1998" <raindancer_1998> wrote: > Dear Sunil, > > please call me rani. please see my reply to Sudharsan. and I > apologize if I sounded unduly harsh toward you. that was not my > intention. I understand you came from a genuine caring for what > happens to the lady in question. > > take care. > > regards, > rani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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