, from Mark, 8/26, re. email from Prakash

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Re: [vedic astrology], from Mark, 8/25, re. Jupiter & Saturn 'friend or foe'?

Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 10:37 AM

Dear Mark,

You have just given me a logical solution of something which was on

the back of my mind for quite sometime.

Thanks a ton dear!

Regards,

Prakash Kandpal

Cell: +91-98105-27196

Res.:+91-11-23367324

vedic astrology, "Mark Kincaid"

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> I have found one of the best ways to test and ultimately, Verify

> all the Jyotish rules and principles ...

> is check them out in the Transits....

>

> You can literally feel for example, when the Moon & Saturn are

colliding in

> the same House...

>

> In fact, it is...the Moon that acts as a good 'receiver', bringing

us

> the qualities of the Signs through which it move and also

> the qualities of the Planets as it collides very regularly each

month....

>

> Probably the most important qualities I've learned by watching all

these

> Transits, a chart for each day for over 16 years....

>

> Is that Every Planet is 'inherently'....good....

>

> And though this may be confusing, especially when we're not even

> considering...what 'Houses'...each Planet rules....

>

> but my Intuition told me that how can any of 'Life's Planets be

bad....

>

> Aren't they all just trying to express back to us, the consequences

of our

> actions?

> And isn't that an ultimately, good thing...?

> So we can grow....

>

> And then I came across Maharishi Parashar, thought to be

the 'father' of

> Jyotish,

> who says in his famous Volume on Hora Jyotish:

>

> "In the very beginning Lord Vishnu entered into all the grahas,

> to give back to his devotees, the consequences of their karmas...."

>

> When I read this I realized, none of the Planets can be 'really'

bad.

>

> Though they may be acting as Functional Malefics....

> and Jyotish explains fairly well, how the Rising Signs, express

> which Planets will have the 'tendency' to portray, 'malefic'

effects.

>

> But, you also have to look at what Signs the Planets are in.

>

> Because, sometimes, especially when a so-called malefic Planet like

> Mars or Saturn are in Signs of their Own, or Signs of Exaltation...

> they really express an extremely.... 'Benefic'...Status...

>

> Then, and here's the most important thing....

>

> Each Planet is not just indicative or our 'punishment' karmas..

> but also represents something we've come to work on!!!!

>

>

> This means, it may be true, that Mars is acting as a 'malefic'...

> IE..Mars in the first, giving us irritableness, too quick actions,

> often leading to accidents and little mishaps, and all the time,

> that 'extra' fieryness or 'pitta'..is effecting directly the 7th

house..

> and the list goes on and on....

>

> But, we need to ask ourselves.... Why is Mars there?

> Is there any goodness to it?

> Are we just supposed to experience the punishment quality,

> from it?

> Or is there any 'redemption' value, or transformative quality that

> really is the Lord's....ultimate purpose in reflecting back, for

us...

> our consequences of our actions?

>

> All we need to do is make an experiment...

>

> If we were talking about having High Blood Pressure, because Mars

> is acting 'maleficly', in the First House, of the Body....

>

> But, our Doctor only knows for, Healing...

>

> So, he says, do this and that..

> and lo and behold!

> the High Blood Pressure goes away!

>

> Why?

>

> Because we learned to 'balance' our pitta, our imbalanced fieryness

> or our Mars!

>

> Like that, we could think of every Malefic situation, not as a

punishment,

> alone, but as an opportunity for grownth!

> and change!

>

> Because if we make the changes......

> Learn to go more slowly....

> and Learn to not be so quick to judge, to fly off at the handle...

>

> Not only does our life smooth-out and improve,

> we're also... Changeing....and

> yes!, transforming our Charts!

>

> Our Charts are meant to be changed!

> To be improved....!

>

> As Life itself is!

>

>

> Our charts are not just symbolic of our 'fates'....

> but also of our Solutions!

> Our growth....

> And progress in Life!

>

>

>

> Jai Guru

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

>

> PS... oh, yes...don't forget....each Planet has the potential to

become

> balanced and therefore, 'Benefic'...in our Life!

>

>

> And I also wanted to tell you all, I have a daily, Transits

Newsletter,

> in which you can watch every day what the Sun, Planets and Stars are

> doing...

>

> You can learn a lot by watching Mother Nature...

>

> Feel free to email me at: m.kincaid@m...

>

> for a free Subscription ...

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ----------

> "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Why is // Jupiter capable of destroying

the

> house it and Saturn Protects//

> Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 9:42 AM

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekar ji and learned members.

>

> I have seen from the archives ,where you had participated in

> discussions,that Jupiter has the capacity to destroy the bhava in

> which

> it is placed and Saturn Protects.

>

> Here I have some queries.

>

> What is the reason for a benevolent planet like jupiter to try and

> harm

> or destroy.

>

> Also i have read that saturn can be good in bad houses (6,8,12

etc) -

> because ,saturn by nature is bad and hence bad and bad

> (negative,negative results in positive) should bring good. But if

> saturn

> can protect all the houses where it is placed ,then the above

> statement

> loses ist significance.Pls correct if my understanding of this

> 'negative-negative' is wrong.

>

> When i try to understand the nature of jupiter - I feel it can test

> the

> individual always on the path of life,which can be painfull and hard

> as

> well at times. Why is this? Is it because such an individual can

> combat

> the tests and hardships,as jupiter gives him lots of patience and

> other

> mental strengths or more concern for others? Am i right?

>

> But why is it trying to destroy?

>

> Also doesn't other considerations like strength,position etc come

> into

> play while deciding on this?

>

> If you can explain the inherent nature of Jupiter, by virtue of

> which

> it

> is trying to behave like this, it would be helpful.

>

> Moreover i can give input on my real experiences (good and bad)

about

> jupiter placed in ascendant.

>

> Thanks a lot

> Pradeep

>

>

>

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vedic astrology

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:59 PM

[vedic astrology], from Mark, 8/26, re. email from Prakash

Cool!Always like to help!heheDid you hear that I have a daily, Transletter,

Jyotish Newsletter that I send out to people?If you're interested I'll send you

one...Mark Kincaidps...what was that idea!heheContact me at:

m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) comfor a free Subscription!Jyotish becomes alive when you watch

the Tranits!

----------"Prakash Kandpal" <prakashkandpal >To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology], from Mark, 8/25,

re. Jupiter & Saturn 'friend or foe'?Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 10:37 AM

Dear Mark,You have just given me a logical solution of something which was on

the back of my mind for quite sometime.Thanks a ton dear!Regards,Prakash

KandpalCell: +91-98105-27196Res.:+91-11-23367324--- In

vedic astrology, "Mark Kincaid" <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> I have

found one of the best ways to test and ultimately, Verify> all the Jyotish rules

and principles ...> is check them out in the Transits....> > You can literally

feel for example, when the Moon & Saturn are colliding in> the same House...> >

In fact, it is...the Moon that acts as a good 'receiver', bringing us> the

qualities of the Signs through which it move and also> the qualities of the

Planets as it collides very regularly each month....> > Probably the most

important qualities I've learned by watching all these> Transits, a chart for

each day for over 16 years....> > Is that Every Planet is

'inherently'....good....> > And though this may be confusing, especially when

we're not even> considering...what 'Houses'...each Planet rules....> > but my

Intuition told me that how can any of 'Life's Planets be bad....> > Aren't they

all just trying to express back to us, the consequences of our> actions?> And

isn't that an ultimately, good thing...?> So we can grow....> > And then I came

across Maharishi Parashar, thought to be the 'father' of> Jyotish,> who says in

his famous Volume on Hora Jyotish:> > "In the very beginning Lord Vishnu

entered into all the grahas,> to give back to his devotees, the consequences of

their karmas...."> > When I read this I realized, none of the Planets can be

'really' bad.> > Though they may be acting as Functional Malefics....> and

Jyotish explains fairly well, how the Rising Signs, express> which Planets will

have the 'tendency' to portray, 'malefic' effects.> > But, you also have to look

at what Signs the Planets are in.> > Because, sometimes, especially when a

so-called malefic Planet like> Mars or Saturn are in Signs of their Own, or

Signs of Exaltation...> they really express an extremely....

'Benefic'...Status...> > Then, and here's the most important thing....> > Each

Planet is not just indicative or our 'punishment' karmas..> but also represents

something we've come to work on!!!!> > > This means, it may be true, that Mars

is acting as a 'malefic'...> IE..Mars in the first, giving us irritableness,

too quick actions,> often leading to accidents and little mishaps, and all the

time,> that 'extra' fieryness or 'pitta'..is effecting directly the 7th

house..> and the list goes on and on....> > But, we need to ask ourselves....

Why is Mars there?> Is there any goodness to it?> Are we just supposed to

experience the punishment quality,> from it?> Or is there any 'redemption'

value, or transformative quality that> really is the Lord's....ultimate purpose

in reflecting back, for us...> our consequences of our actions?> > All we need

to do is make an experiment...> > If we were talking about having High Blood

Pressure, because Mars> is acting 'maleficly', in the First House, of the

Body....> > But, our Doctor only knows for, Healing...> > So, he says, do this

and that..> and lo and behold!> the High Blood Pressure goes away!> > Why?> >

Because we learned to 'balance' our pitta, our imbalanced fieryness> or our

Mars!> > Like that, we could think of every Malefic situation, not as a

punishment,> alone, but as an opportunity for grownth!> and change!> > Because

if we make the changes......> Learn to go more slowly....> and Learn to not be

so quick to judge, to fly off at the handle...> > Not only does our life

smooth-out and improve,> we're also... Changeing....and> yes!, transforming our

Charts!> > Our Charts are meant to be changed!> To be improved....!> > As Life

itself is!> > > Our charts are not just symbolic of our 'fates'....> but also

of our Solutions!> Our growth....> And progress in Life!> > > > Jai Guru> > > >

> > > Mark Kincaid> > > > > PS... oh, yes...don't forget....each Planet has the

potential to become> balanced and therefore, 'Benefic'...in our Life!> > > And

I also wanted to tell you all, I have a daily, Transits Newsletter,> in which

you can watch every day what the Sun, Planets and Stars are> doing...> > You

can learn a lot by watching Mother Nature...> > Feel free to email me at:

m.kincaid@m...> > for a free Subscription ...> > > > > > > ---------->

"vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep>> To:

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Why is // Jupiter

capable of destroying the> house it and Saturn Protects//> Mon, Aug 25,

2003, 9:42 AM> > > Dear Chandrashekar ji and learned members.> > I have seen

from the archives ,where you had participated in> discussions,that Jupiter has

the capacity to destroy the bhava in> which> it is placed and Saturn Protects.>

> Here I have some queries.> > What is the reason for a benevolent planet like

jupiter to try and> harm> or destroy.> > Also i have read that saturn can be

good in bad houses (6,8,12 etc) -> because ,saturn by nature is bad and hence

bad and bad> (negative,negative results in positive) should bring good. But if>

saturn> can protect all the houses where it is placed ,then the above>

statement> loses ist significance.Pls correct if my understanding of this>

'negative-negative' is wrong.> > When i try to understand the nature of jupiter

- I feel it can test> the> individual always on the path of life,which can be

painfull and hard> as> well at times. Why is this? Is it because such an

individual can> combat> the tests and hardships,as jupiter gives him lots of

patience and> other> mental strengths or more concern for others? Am i right?>

> But why is it trying to destroy?> > Also doesn't other considerations like

strength,position etc come> into> play while deciding on this?> > If you can

explain the inherent nature of Jupiter, by virtue of> which> it> is trying to

behave like this, it would be helpful.> > Moreover i can give input on my real

experiences (good and bad) about> jupiter placed in ascendant.> > Thanks a lot>

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