Irradiated Stones & Uncut stones - Guru Swee Chan

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Dear Guru Swee,

 

1. I recently heard about stones being Irradiated, can you pls expand

on this since I know you might be having huge knowledge on this.

 

Does this process effect the qualities, I mean does it effect the

healing/fortune quality of the stone.

 

2. Are uncut stones better than cut stones for effect, I read some

article where it said in earlier times people were advised uncut

stones. My personal experience with uncut Neelam (Blue Sapphire ) has

been good and bad so unable to judge, maybe the 70 carat was too much

and also maybe since there was a slight chip off.

 

Still would like to know your experienced thoughts on this.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Best

 

Sunil

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sunil,

 

Irradiated stones: How would one react to irradiation?

Heat treatment: According to Garuda Purana, the person who asks his

worker or another to heat treat gets the sins. By heating, the gemstone

become dead and unable to give their effulgence.

Rough stones: Unless extracted from a pegmatite in its perfect crystal

shape, do not attempt to wear one that is found from gravel or alluvial

soil (most of them naturally etched with acids of sorts) . Their outer

appearance will not have the shining effect a faceted material would.

This is why it is only in the diamond section; extracts are mostly from

"pipe-like" pockets. I do have a collection of some in various natural

shapes. The cuboid is most favoured in its perfect shape and clarity

(described as Vajra-the thunderbolt).

However, in modern times just remember the 4 "C's". But I do suggest you

look up the archives for more details.

 

Best wishes,

 

Swee

 

 

suniljohn_2002 [suniljohn]

25 August 2003 11:38

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[vedic astrology] Irradiated Stones & Uncut stones - Guru Swee

Chan

 

Dear Guru Swee,

 

1. I recently heard about stones being Irradiated, can you pls expand

on this since I know you might be having huge knowledge on this.

 

Does this process effect the qualities, I mean does it effect the

healing/fortune quality of the stone.

 

2. Are uncut stones better than cut stones for effect, I read some

article where it said in earlier times people were advised uncut

stones. My personal experience with uncut Neelam (Blue Sapphire ) has

been good and bad so unable to judge, maybe the 70 carat was too much

and also maybe since there was a slight chip off.

 

Still would like to know your experienced thoughts on this.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Best

 

Sunil

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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in 2 separate lines. Irradiated mean to put a certain coloured

gemstone into a chamber for about 2 year or so and irradiate it with rays that

give RADIATION! This gemstone when it comes out will come out a different

colour. Take for example a Dravite

(Golden Brown colour Tourmaline) when you irradiate

it, it turns Red. Very red. This would be re-calassified as Rubellite.

"URW Palladio IT";color:black">In the industry, the seller is suppose to tell

you and indicate on the invoice that the

gemstone has been treated in whichever form. If not, then N is stated too. (N

for natural). As for buying gemstone in

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26 August 2003 10:26

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Irradiated Stones & Uncut stones - Guru Swee Chan

 

Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Guru

Swee,

 

Thanks

for your post, so irradiation means heat treatment, one more query how does a

common man know when he goes to buy any stone if it has been subjected to

Irradiation process. Is there any way to find this out by observation or

something?

 

Thanks in

advance

 

Best

regards,

 

Sunil

 

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Dear Sunil,

Irradiated stones: How would one react to irradiation?

Heat treatment: According to Garuda Purana, the person who asks his

worker or another to heat treat gets the sins. By heating, the gemstone

become dead and unable to give their effulgence.

Rough stones: Unless extracted from a pegmatite in its perfect crystal

shape, do not attempt to wear one that is found from gravel or alluvial

soil (most of them naturally etched with acids of sorts) . Their outer

appearance will not have the shining effect a faceted material would.

This is why it is only in the diamond section; extracts are mostly from

"pipe-like" pockets. I do have a collection of some in various

natural

shapes. The cuboid is most favoured in its perfect shape and clarity

(described as Vajra-the thunderbolt).

However, in modern times just remember the 4 "C's". But I do

suggest you

look up the archives for mor e details.

Best wishes,

Swee

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Dear Swee,

 

Sorry, I was confused with Irradiation and heat treatment, didnt get

the basics of it right at the first instance. thanks for your

explanation. Yes in India a common man who goes to buy such things

knows nothing about this and there are no rules or guidelines.

 

Best wishes

 

SJ

 

vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> If you read again my last answer. The heat treatment and irradiated

> treatment are in 2 separate lines. Irradiated mean to put a certain

> coloured gemstone into a chamber for about 2 year or so and

irradiate it

> with rays that give RADIATION! This gemstone when it comes out will

come

> out a different colour. Take for example a Dravite (Golden Brown

colour

> Tourmaline) when you irradiate it, it turns Red. Very red. This

would be

> re-calassified as Rubellite.

> In the industry, the seller is suppose to tell you and indicate on

the

> invoice that the gemstone has been treated in whichever form. If

not,

> then N is stated too. (N for natural). As for buying gemstone in

India,

> it is a different ball game altogether, as there are no stringent

rules

> set out by the Government, except for Gold.

>

> As for you, no Gomed.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Swee

>

>

> Sunil John [suniljohn@l...]

> 26 August 2003 10:26

> vedic astrology

> RE: [vedic astrology] Irradiated Stones & Uncut stones -

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> Swee Chan

>

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Guru Swee,

>

> Thanks for your post, so irradiation means heat treatment, one more

> query how does a common man know when he goes to buy any stone if

it has

> been subjected to Irradiation process. Is there any way to find

this out

> by observation or something?

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sunil

>

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> Irradiated stones: How would one react to irradiation?

> Heat treatment: According to Garuda Purana, the person who asks his

> worker or another to heat treat gets the sins. By heating, the

gemstone

> become dead and unable to give their effulgence.

> Rough stones: Unless extracted from a pegmatite in its perfect

crystal

> shape, do not attempt to wear one that is found from gravel or

alluvial

> soil (most of them naturally etched with acids of sorts) . Their

outer

> appearance will not have the shining effect a faceted material

would.

> This is why it is only in the diamond section; extracts are mostly

from

> "pipe-like" pockets. I do have a collection of some in various

natural

> shapes. The cuboid is most favoured in its perfect shape and clarity

> (described as Vajra-the thunderbolt).

> However, in modern times just remember the 4 "C's". But I do

suggest you

> look up the archives for mor e details.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Swee

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Dear Guru Swee,

 

Thanks for your post, so irradiation means heat treatment, one more query how

does a common man know when he goes to buy any stone if it has been subjected

to Irradiation process. Is there any way to find this out by observation or

something?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Best regards,

 

Sunil

 

Jaya JagannathaDear Sunil,Irradiated stones: How would one react to

irradiation?Heat treatment: According to Garuda Purana, the person who asks

hisworker or another to heat treat gets the sins. By heating, the

gemstonebecome dead and unable to give their effulgence.Rough stones: Unless

extracted from a pegmatite in its perfect crystalshape, do not attempt to wear

one that is found from gravel or alluvialsoil (most of them naturally etched

with acids of sorts) . Their outerappearance will not have the shining effect a

faceted material would.This is why it is only in the diamond section; extracts

are mostly from"pipe-like" pockets. I do have a collection of some in various

naturalshapes. The cuboid is most favoured in its perfect shape and

clarity(described as Vajra-the thunderbolt).However, in modern times just

remember the 4 "C's". But I do suggest youlook up the archives for mor

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> HANNA MAC [hm2002]

> 26 August 2003 05:00

> Swee Chan

> RE: [vedic astrology] Irradiated Stones & Uncut stones

- Guru

> Swee Chan

>

Hello Sunil,

just adding onto Swee's comments,irradiation is done to enhance the

color

of stones.It is commonly done these days especially with diamonds.

Blue sapphire and red ruby is heat treated usually on site at mines

to

give

a truer color.Green emeralds are oiled to disguise internal

inclusions.

These treatment can be detected under a microscope and also the color

> looks

> too true to a trained gemologist.

> Astrologically the gems should be untreated in any way to provide

any

> benefit.

> I believe uncut good quality stones are quite powerful.

> regards,

> Hanna

 

 

[Original Message]

> Swee Chan <swee

> <hm2002

> 8/26/03 2:53:06 AM

> RE: [vedic astrology] Irradiated Stones & Uncut stones

- Guru

Swee Chan

>

> Jaya Jagannatha,

>

> Dear Hanna,

>

> Zambian Emeralds cannot be oiled. It does not do anything. But

Columbian

> material can be oiled to fill the cracks.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Swee

>

>