Guest guest Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 Dear Denis, I think that proper practice of astropalmistry is difficult without actual interaction with a Master. Only reading books would not give one deep knowledge as it is a two dimentional description/photographs of a three dimensional object( the Palm). Many factors such as texture, dryness shapes relative prominence of mounts etc. render themselves dificult to translate to words. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Labouré Denis [Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR]Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:23 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Astro-palmistryHello,Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get thebirthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are thebest books you suggest I read?Thanks a lotDenisArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear Denis, The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Labouré_Denis <Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR> wrote: Hello,Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get thebirthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are thebest books you suggest I read?Thanks a lotDenisArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto as well as Delhi. OM Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Denis, The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Labouré_Denis <Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR> wrote: Hello,Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get thebirthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are thebest books you suggest I read?Thanks a lotDenisArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Hello Sudeep: Ya, I agree with you. Most of the astrologers out there are just plain crooks selling something or the other. In most cases, when I began discussing the reason for their predictions with them, I realize that they hardly know anything. As to the accuracy of predictions, I've spent lots and lots of money getting predictions from various different reputed vedic astrologer and NO ONE, SAY NO ONE was able to do make an accurate prediction. Ya, they all were/are very good at post-moterm after I tell them about certain events that had already occured. The ONLY exception to my statement above is, Sanjay Rath, who made a semi-accurate prediction about my life. If you're interested in some genuine predictions along with feasible remedies (rather than CRAP like Kavachs and Yantras and expensive donations to the astrologer himself), try Sanjay out, I think his rate is also very cheap at US$180/hr. If you're interested in a very PRAGMATIC predicion, try out Rohini Ranjan. He doesn't accept any fees, but helps people out for free if they're experiencing serious problems in life. Hope this helps. Mukund vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> wrote: > Dear Mr Rao > I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto as well as Delhi. > OM > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > Dear Denis, > The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry. > With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Labouré_Denis <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Hello, > > Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get the > birthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L. > R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are the > best books you suggest I read? > > Thanks a lot > Denis > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Thanx for your reply.How and where can I contact S rath.I think Mr Rath uses Narayana Dasa to predict.But again my experience is that people with a ethically and spritually oriented life are able to understand the chain of forthcoming events.Ramana Maharishi has said that Fate is linked to Ego. He advises surrender to God and Self Enquiry as the way to destroy the effects of Prarbadh because the agent for Prarbdh is Ego, and by SELF ENQUIRY YOU COME TO THE SOURCE OF EGO WHICH IS THE ATMAN OR SELF.Great Yogic masters advise Japa and Love of God to reduce the intensity of Prarbadh ( Fate) not astrological remedies which I guess have been evolved to MINT MONEY and fool the ignorant.Best is put put yourself in the hands of the power which controls the Planets .Love of God and surrender to the Infinite which dwells in the lotus of your heart is the best remedy for overcoming Fate( PRARBADH KARMA), BUT I GUESS MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT DO THIS ,IF THEY COULD MISERY WOULD VANISH FROM EARTH AND GREEDY HUMAN BEINGS MASQUIRADING AS ASTROLOGERS WOULD NOT LIVE OR SURVIVE, OM TAT SAT Hello Sudeep:Ya, I agree with you. Most of the astrologers out there are just plain crooks selling something or the other. In most cases, when I began discussing the reason for their predictions with them, I realize that they hardly know anything.As to the accuracy of predictions, I've spent lots and lots of money getting predictions from various different reputed vedic astrologer and NO ONE, SAY NO ONE was able to do make an accurate prediction. Ya, they all were/are very good at post-moterm after I tell them about certain events that had already occured.The ONLY exception to my statement above is, Sanjay Rath, who made a semi-accurate prediction about my life. If you're interested in some genuine predictions along with feasible remedies (rather than CRAP like Kavachs and Yantras and expensive donations to the astrologer himself), try Sanjay out, I think his rate is also very cheap at US$180/hr.If you're interested in a very PRAGMATIC predicion, try out Rohini Ranjan. He doesn't accept any fees, but helps people out for free if they're experiencing serious problems in life.Hope this helps.Mukund--- In vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> wrote:> Dear Mr Rao> I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto as well as Delhi.> OM > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Denis,> The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry.> With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Labouré_Denis <Laboure@W...> wrote:> Hello,> > Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get the> birthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.> R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are the> best books you suggest I read?> > Thanks a lot> Denis> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos > Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE MessengerArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear Sudeep, There is much great part of truth in what you write about so called "astrologers racing for big money". There too many of those around - no doubt. However, I would not write this mail if I did not think that you may do some injustice to Mr. K.N.Rao who at the end of the day one of us - a human being. He was the only one out of 12(!) astrologers (some very well known!) who predicted 6 month ahead of time an upcoming situation in my life. This was at a time where I thought I reached the end of the rope. K.N.Rao was very clear in his statement and almost on target by dating the change. What is a ('ethically') qualified astrologer ? The perfect one does not exist (that is 100% correct predictions) The almost perfect one at 90% ? - still no way. 80% ..... Conclusion ? all make mistakes as we are not suppose to play God. If we did we should have a diploma signed by God himself. The astrology of today (as I practice it), if honestly pursued in the clients best interest, has much more weight on it's psychological aspects in order to help people to coupe with their life in (mostly) difficult periods/situations. I hope you'll agree with me on that issues. Kind regards /Jay Weiss - sudeep suri vedic astrology Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:40 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Astro-palmistry Dear Mr Rao I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto ! as well as Delhi. OM Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Denis, The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Labouré_Denis <Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR> wrote: Hello,Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get thebirthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are thebest books you suggest I read?Thanks a lotDenisArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Term! s of Service. Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear Mr Weiss I agree with your views and I am happy to know KNRAO gave you a correct prediction,at last I have heard somebody say good things about KN RAO.Even his students say RAO has good academic knowledge but no predictive ability.My personal experience is that he cannot predict.What is a ('ethically') qualified astrologer ? BY this I mean that an astrloger is following the basic principles of honesty,purity as defined in the YAMA and Niyama principles of Yoga Philosophy.People like LR CHAWDRI are downright greedy,have questionable employment record.Their personal conduct is deplorable.They would tell you your Sun is debilitated or some other non sense and then try to convince you that a SRI YANTRA can solve your problem.They will buy a an engraved Yantra for 25 Rs from some place in Delhi and sell you for 1500RS. "J. Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sudeep, There is much great part of truth in what you write about so called "astrologers racing for big money". There too many of those around - no doubt. However, I would not write this mail if I did not think that you may do some injustice to Mr. K.N.Rao who at the end of the day one of us - a human being. He was the only one out of 12(!) astrologers (some very well known!) who predicted 6 month ahead of time an upcoming situation in my life. This was at a time where I thought I reached the end of the rope. K.N.Rao was very clear in his statement and almost on target by dating the change. What is a ('ethically') qualified astrologer ? The perfect one does not exist (that is 100% correct predictions) The almost perfect one at 90% ? - still no way. 80% ..... Conclusion ? all make mistakes as we are not suppose to play God. If we did we should have a diploma signed by God himself. The astrology of today (as I practice it), if honestly pursued in the clients best interest, has much more weight on it's psychological aspects in order to help people to coupe with their life in (mostly) difficult periods/situations. I hope you'll agree with me on that issues. Kind regards /Jay Weiss - sudeep suri vedic astrology Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:40 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Astro-palmistry Dear Mr Rao I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto ! as well as Delhi. OM Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Denis, The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Labouré_Denis <Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR> wrote: Hello,Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get thebirthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are thebest books you suggest I read?Thanks a lotDenisArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Term! s of Service. Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear Sudeep Suri, I understand your problem.But did you confirm your birth time is accurate or rectified it ? I have no idea about Sri K.N.Rao but I read many of his books and I liked those books.But now you go back our SJC's old messages where many of the renowne Astrolgers of this Group have preicted many events and most of them became fruitful.Astrolgy or Jyotishya is a Divine Science and once if one starts making money through this Divine science,then his accuracy in predictions reduce and may become wrong also.I have a Astro Palmistry book written by Sri L.R.Chawdhri and I have cast many charts as given in his book.But onething I will tell you.To become a good Astro- Palmist or an Astrologer,Divine Blessing is necessary.Without that any Astrologer who studies this Divine science may not be perfect in predictions. I hope this helps you. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.sudeep suri <vaudeva99 > wrote: Dear Mr Rao I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto as well as Delhi. OM Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Denis, The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Labouré_Denis <Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR> wrote: Hello,Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get thebirthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are thebest books you suggest I read?Thanks a lotDenisArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Terms of Service. Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear List members, My experience with K N Rao was quite positive. He pinpointed a milestone in my life within 2-3 days accuracy and his prediction proved correct too. Nowadays he is not keeping good health. He has some problems relating to movement of his legs/limbs but he is recovering. That might have affected his psyche. At times he is easily irritated. His books on Chara dasa and Mandook dasa plus his astrological journey are landmarks and has improved my knowledge a lot. L R Chawdhary was money- minded and greedy and sitting in his Karol bagh office amassed huge wealth but died of cancer. So let us not discuss him. Best wishes Shiv Chadha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> wrote: > Even his students say RAO has good academic knowledge but no predictive ability.My personal experience is that he cannot predict. Dear Mr.Suri, Please dont make generalized statements based on isolated incidences. Just because Mr.K.N.Rao did not make accurate prediction in your case does not mean that he cannot predict. If his students say that he does not have predictive ability, why are they still his students? Mr. Rao has probably more than a 1000 students. Did you talk to all of them? I doubt. So don't make such general statements based on feedback from a couple of them. A doctor can also fail to make a correct diagnosis in rare cases. That does not mean he is a bad doctor. It just means that he is not God. Sincerely, Sagar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 I am not talking based on isolated incidents.I am talking of 4 individual cases spread over a span of 13 yrs. Even on his web site if you go through carefully there are num of incorrect predictions.I have heard and read KN RAO praising DR BV RAMAN to the sky(In the astrological magazine) and seminars in Delhi, calling him the greatest astrologer World has seen,this was in 1990 .But after that he had developed differences with Raman and he criticized Raman in a very debauch and disgusting way showing what a third rate man he is.As far as 1000 students are concerened they study astrology in Bhartiya Vidya Bhavan(NOT HIS PERSONAL STUDENTS) and most of them are interested in making money out of astrology by writing books or going away to places like Canada.Go to Canada and see how substandard astrologers are making money. Regards SUDEEPSagar Chitnis <sagar_chitnis > wrote: vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> wrote:> Even his students say RAO has good academic knowledge but no predictive ability.My personal experience is that he cannot predict.Dear Mr.Suri,Please dont make generalized statements based on isolated incidences.Just because Mr.K.N.Rao did not make accurate prediction in your casedoes not mean that he cannot predict.If his students say that he does not have predictive ability, why are they still his students? Mr. Rao has probably more than a 1000 students. Did you talk to all of them? I doubt. So don't make such general statements based on feedback from a couple of them. A doctor can also fail to make a correct diagnosis in rare cases. That does not mean he is a bad doctor. It just means that he is notGod. Sincerely,Sagar.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Respected mukund ji, jai jinendra kindly give the contact no.& address Rohini Ranjan ji & oblige with regards jawaher lal jain : 9811212503 - monmuk111 vedic astrology Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:37 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Astro-palmistry Hello Sudeep:Ya, I agree with you. Most of the astrologers out there are just plain crooks selling something or the other. In most cases, when I began discussing the reason for their predictions with them, I realize that they hardly know anything.As to the accuracy of predictions, I've spent lots and lots of money getting predictions from various different reputed vedic astrologer and NO ONE, SAY NO ONE was able to do make an accurate prediction. Ya, they all were/are very good at post-moterm after I tell them about certain events that had already occured.The ONLY exception to my statement above is, Sanjay Rath, who made a semi-accurate prediction about my life. If you're interested in some genuine predictions along with feasible remedies (rather than CRAP like Kavachs and Yantras and expensive donations to the astrologer himself), try Sanjay out, I think his rate is also very cheap at US$180/hr.If you're interested in a very PRAGMATIC predicion, try out Rohini Ranjan. He doesn't accept any fees, but helps people out for free if they're experiencing serious problems in life.Hope this helps.Mukund--- In vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> wrote:> Dear Mr Rao> I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto as well as Delhi.> OM > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Denis,> The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry.> With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > Labouré_Denis <Laboure@W...> wrote:> Hello,> > Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get the> birthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. Rao, L.> R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. What are the> best books you suggest I read?> > Thanks a lot> Denis> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos > Groups Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE MessengerArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Hello Mr. Jain: Rohini Ranjan Bose lives somewhere in Toronto area. I don't have his phone number. His e-mail is clarity2020. He also has a small Vedic astrology group called "jyotish-vani" on . Hope this helps. Mukund vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" <jawaherjain@s...> wrote: > Respected mukund ji, > > jai jinendra > > kindly give the contact no.& address Rohini Ranjan ji & oblige > > with regards > > jawaher lal jain : 9811212503 > - > monmuk111 > vedic astrology > Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:37 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Astro-palmistry > > > Hello Sudeep: > > Ya, I agree with you. Most of the astrologers out there are just > plain crooks selling something or the other. In most cases, when I > began discussing the reason for their predictions with them, I > realize that they hardly know anything. > > As to the accuracy of predictions, I've spent lots and lots of money > getting predictions from various different reputed vedic astrologer > and NO ONE, SAY NO ONE was able to do make an accurate prediction. > Ya, they all were/are very good at post-moterm after I tell them > about certain events that had already occured. > > The ONLY exception to my statement above is, Sanjay Rath, who made a > semi-accurate prediction about my life. > > If you're interested in some genuine predictions along with feasible > remedies (rather than CRAP like Kavachs and Yantras and expensive > donations to the astrologer himself), try Sanjay out, I think his > rate is also very cheap at US$180/hr. > > If you're interested in a very PRAGMATIC predicion, try out Rohini > Ranjan. He doesn't accept any fees, but helps people out for free if > they're experiencing serious problems in life. > > Hope this helps. > > Mukund > > vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> > wrote: > > Dear Mr Rao > > I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to > practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is > Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. > Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly > revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is > working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN > RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this > year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees > apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way > back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look > at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI > magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he > picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them > marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for > most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto as well as Delhi. > > OM > > > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > > Dear Denis, > > The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but > you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry. > > With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Labouré_Denis <Laboure@W...> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get the > > birthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. > Rao, L. > > R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. > What are the > > best books you suggest I read? > > > > Thanks a lot > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE > Messenger > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Respected mukund ji;, kindly send your birth detail immediately. with regards jawaher lal jain-9811212403 - monmuk111 vedic astrology Monday, August 18, 2003 11:11 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Astro-palmistry Hello Mr. Jain:Rohini Ranjan Bose lives somewhere in Toronto area. I don't have his phone number. His e-mail is clarity2020 . He also has a small Vedic astrology group called "jyotish-vani" on .Hope this helps.Mukund--- In vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:> Respected mukund ji,> > jai jinendra> > kindly give the contact no.& address Rohini Ranjan ji & oblige> > with regards> > jawaher lal jain : 9811212503> - > monmuk111 > To: vedic astrology > Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:37 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: Astro-palmistry> > > Hello Sudeep:> > Ya, I agree with you. Most of the astrologers out there are just > plain crooks selling something or the other. In most cases, when I > began discussing the reason for their predictions with them, I > realize that they hardly know anything.> > As to the accuracy of predictions, I've spent lots and lots of money > getting predictions from various different reputed vedic astrologer > and NO ONE, SAY NO ONE was able to do make an accurate prediction. > Ya, they all were/are very good at post-moterm after I tell them > about certain events that had already occured.> > The ONLY exception to my statement above is, Sanjay Rath, who made a > semi-accurate prediction about my life. > > If you're interested in some genuine predictions along with feasible > remedies (rather than CRAP like Kavachs and Yantras and expensive > donations to the astrologer himself), try Sanjay out, I think his > rate is also very cheap at US$180/hr.> > If you're interested in a very PRAGMATIC predicion, try out Rohini > Ranjan. He doesn't accept any fees, but helps people out for free if > they're experiencing serious problems in life.> > Hope this helps.> > Mukund> > vedic astrology, sudeep suri <vaudeva99> > wrote:> > Dear Mr Rao> > I have met LR CHAWDRI . The Guy is not ethically qualified to > practise astrology or palmistry. . His knowledge of Palmistry is > Zilch. He is more interested in Selling Yantras and making money. > Most astrologers I have met cannot predict including the higly > revered scholar KN RAO.My friend who is PHD from IIT delhi and is > working as Vice President in a major Org in Delhi had consulted KN > RAO three months ago for his son who passed class 12 in June this > year. What RAO predicted and what actually happened is 180 degrees > apart. RAO predicted very incorrectly in My fathers case also way > back in 1990, Even in my horoscope the Guy was 180 degrees apart.Look > at Lacchman Das Madan what predivtions is he giving in BABAJI > magazine? They are not predictions but general statements and then he > picks up events and fits into his general statemts and he calls them > marvels of Indian astrology. astrology is a money making racket for > most people. I have seen it very clearly in Toronto as well as Delhi.> > OM > > > > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> > Dear Denis,> > The books written by Sri Chawdhri and R.G.Rao are really good but > you should have a Guru first to learn this Astro Palmistry.> > With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Labouré_Denis <Laboure@W...> wrote:> > Hello,> > > > Does any member of the list really use astro-palmistry (to get the> > birthchart from palm)? I got several books about this matter (R.G. > Rao, L.> > R. Chawdhri, etc.). However, I was disappointed by the results. > What are the> > best books you suggest I read?> > > > Thanks a lot> > Denis> > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos > > Sponsor> > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE > Messenger> > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Ramadas, Thanki you very much for your answer. I have no guru in astro-palmistry. As I live in France, there is no chance I find one of them in my environment. However, I hope the grace of God will help me to improve the knowledge I grasp from study and experiences. In the L.R. Chawdhri book, could you tell me the chapters (or pages) you found the most useful in practice. Every info about the techniques which do not work will be welcome. So, I'll study this book with the best profit. Thanks a lot for helping Denis Sun, 17 Aug 2003 06:00:07 +0100 (BST) Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao Re: Astro-palmistry OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Sudeep Suri, I understand your problem.But did you confirm your birth time is accurate or rectified it ? I have no idea about Sri K.N.Rao but I read many of his books and I liked those books.But now you go back our SJC's old messages where many of the renowne Astrolgers of this Group have preicted many events and most of them became fruitful.Astrolgy or Jyotishya is a Divine Science and once if one starts making money through this Divine science,then his accuracy in predictions reduce and may become wrong also.I have a Astro Palmistry book written by Sri L.R.Chawdhri and I have cast many charts as given in his book.But onething I will tell you.To become a good Astro- Palmist or an Astrologer,Divine Blessing is necessary.Without that any Astrologer who studies this Divine science may not be perfect in predictions. I hope this helps you. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Dear Laboure Denis, Actually when we start learning Astro-Palmistry we have to start from the beginning only ie.,the type of hands,type of mounts,then go through the signs and symbols given there.Finally we have to start casting of Horoscope using different lines on the Phalanges of both hands.read the book many times each word by word and slowly you will understand the matters given there. I hope this helps you. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Labouré_Denis <Laboure (AT) WANADOO (DOT) FR> wrote: Dear Ramadas,Thanki you very much for your answer. I have no guru in astro-palmistry. AsI live in France, there is no chance I find one of them in my environment.However, I hope the grace of God will help me to improve the knowledge Igrasp from study and experiences.In the L.R. Chawdhri book, could you tell me the chapters (or pages) youfound the most useful in practice. Every info about the techniques which donot work will be welcome. So, I'll study this book with the best profit.Thanks a lot for helpingDenisSun, 17 Aug 2003 06:00:07 +0100 (BST) Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Astro-palmistryOM NAMO NARAYANAYADear Sudeep Suri,I understand your problem.But did you confirm your birth time is accurate orrectified it ? I have no idea about Sri K.N.Rao but I read many of his booksand I liked those books.But now you go back our SJC's old messages wheremany of the renowne Astrolgers of this Group have preicted many events andmost of them became fruitful.Astrolgy or Jyotishya is a Divine Science andonce if one starts making money through this Divine science,then hisaccuracy in predictions reduce and may become wrong also.I have a AstroPalmistry book written by Sri L.R.Chawdhri and I have cast many charts asgiven in his book.But onething I will tell you.To become a good Astro-Palmist or an Astrologer,Divine Blessing is necessary.Without that anyAstrologer who studies this Divine science may not be perfect inpredictions.I hope this helps you.With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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