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Dear Mr. Jain:

 

You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already performed

your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are you

seeking from astrology??

 

Major disease:

 

Have you been diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems you just

want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If you're

destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll definitely get a

major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just continue

to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time that you

actually get it.

 

Financial position:

 

You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to figure out your

financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be able to

help you now.

 

Nature of livelihood:

 

With a wife and three kids to care for, you must be in some kind of a

profession or business so you already know the nature of livelihood.

Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

 

Stability in career:

 

You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how you're faring

compared to your peers so you already know how stable is your career.

Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

 

Future in politics:

 

You just asked a question about stability in career, this means that

you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had noted in

your mail that you are a politician, this question would be a valid

question and could be answered using astrology.

 

People who come here seeking answers have extremely serious problems

in certain arenas of life that they have not been able to overcome by

doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an astrology

discussion group seeking answers from the divine.

 

Everything else has failed for these people; therefore, they attempt

a different variety of karma in form of astrological advice. This

board is NOT for seeking life-predictions. There are many websites

and many professional astrologers whom you can pay and get a reading.

 

You claim to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about predictive

astrology; however, you've just asked for an outright reading.

 

If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about predictive

astrology, you should read the following books in this order:

 

1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer

2) Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm

3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV Narshimarao

4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath

 

Once you're done reading these books, you would have procured

substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology. While

reading these books, you'll have doubts and questions so come to this

board with your doubts and questions and some learned, benevolent

person on this board will attempt to address your questions and

doubts.

 

Hope this answers your question.

 

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

<jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

>

> RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,

>

> KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE GROUP

AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO URGE TO

PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY.

>

> I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS BELOW

FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-

>

> MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER:

> DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.: PLACE

OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA

> EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984

> 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985

> 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI

> 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI

> 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI

> MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986

>

> QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF

LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY IN

CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?

>

>

> I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY CHART AND

GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING

DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND AND

OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.

>

> AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,

>

> WITH REGARDS

>

> JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503

> 4688 UMRAO SINGH STREET PAHARI DHIRAJ

> DELHI-110 006 (INDIA)

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RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,

 

JAI JINENDER,

 

 

RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION GIVEN BY HIM

UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE IRRITATE THE

GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE FELLOW MEMBRS AND GURUS TO

SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE

PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY

FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE

LAST TWO YEARS WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I

HAVE TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI ADMINISTRATION AS UDC.

I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY

PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT ADVICE OF MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE

GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY OF MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE

CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED

SANJAY JI AND SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE

DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED JYOTISH PRAVEEN

FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN.

 

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK ABOUT MY CHART ONLY

TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY PROBLEM IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND

MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY

NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME.

 

ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENT EITHER BAD OR

GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH CAUTIOUS AND HAVE REMEDIAL

MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT VERY WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY

MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU LIKE RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI.

 

IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.

 

 

WITH REGARDS

 

JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)

-

monmuk111

vedic astrology

Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS

Dear Mr. Jain:You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already

performed your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are you

seeking from astrology?? Major disease:Have you been diagnosed with a major

disease??? It seems you just want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major

disease. If you're destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll

definitely get a major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just

continue to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time that you

actually get it.Financial position:You're 48 years old, if you haven't been

able to figure out your financial position by now on your own, astrology won't

be able to help you now.Nature of livelihood:With a wife and three kids to care

for, you must be in some kind of a profession or business so you already know

the nature of livelihood. Why seek answer from astrology about what you already

know?Stability in career:You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how

you're faring compared to your peers so you already know how stable is your

career. Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?Future in

politics:You just asked a question about stability in career, this means that

you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had noted in your mail

that you are a politician, this question would be a valid question and could be

answered using astrology. People who come here seeking answers have extremely

serious problems in certain arenas of life that they have not been able to

overcome by doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an astrology

discussion group seeking answers from the divine. Everything else has failed

for these people; therefore, they attempt a different variety of karma in form

of astrological advice. This board is NOT for seeking life-predictions. There

are many websites and many professional astrologers whom you can pay and get a

reading.You claim to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about predictive

astrology; however, you've just asked for an outright reading. If you're

seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about predictive astrology, you should read

the following books in this order:1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer2)

Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach,

by PV Narshimarao4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay RathOnce you're done

reading these books, you would have procured substantial knowledge and ideas

about predictive astrology. While reading these books, you'll have doubts and

questions so come to this board with your doubts and questions and some

learned, benevolent person on this board will attempt to address your questions

and doubts.Hope this answers your question.Mukund --- In

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:> >

RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,> > KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES

BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE GROUP AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF

ASTROLGY AND ALSO URGE TO PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF

PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY.> > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH

DETAILS BELOW FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-> > MY BIRTH

DETAIL IS AS UNDER: > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH:

11.32.AM.: PLACE OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA> EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984> 1ST

BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985> 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT

10.48 PM DELHI> 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI> 4TH BOY

CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI> MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986> >

QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN

JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY IN CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?> > > I

KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY CHART AND GUIDE ME

ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY

FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND AND OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.> > AWAITING FOR YOUR

REPLY ANXIOUSLY,> > WITH REGARDS> > JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503> 4688 UMRAO

SINGH STREET PAHARI DHIRAJ > DELHI-110 006 (INDIA)Archives:

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I completely understand your situation and wish you all the best. Please have

faith in the almighty GOD. They say Goddess Durga Mata ji controls even the

planets. I am not an astrologer so cannot do any predicitions.

However, I want to give one piece of advice that please do not write emails in

all CAPS. Many readers consider this to be a violent and rude way of

addressing. Also, it is more pleasing to the eye of a reader if they see email

in lower case. I hope you take this advice in a positive way

 

best wishes

chakroojawaherjain <jawaherjain (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:

RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,

 

JAI JINENDER,

 

 

RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION GIVEN BY HIM

UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE IRRITATE THE

GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE FELLOW MEMBRS AND GURUS TO

SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE

PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY

FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE

LAST TWO YEARS WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I

HAVE TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI ADMINISTRATION AS UDC.

I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY

PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT ADVICE OF MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE

GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY OF MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE

CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED

SANJAY JI AND SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN

,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF

ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA

BHAWAN.

 

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK ABOUT MY CHART ONLY

TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY PROBLEM IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND

MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY

NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME.

 

ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENT EITHER BAD OR

GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH CAUTIOUS AND HAVE REMEDIAL

MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT VERY WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY

MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU LIKE RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI.

 

IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.

 

 

WITH REGARDS

 

JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)

-

monmuk111

vedic astrology

Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS

Dear Mr. Jain:You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already

performed your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are you

seeking from astrology?? Major disease:Have you been diagnosed with a major

disease??? It seems you just want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major

disease. If you're destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll

definitely get a major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just

continue to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time that you

actually get it.Financial position:You're 48 years old, if you haven't been

able to figure out your financial position by now on your own, astrology won't

be able to help you now.Nature of livelihood:With a wife and three kids to care

for, you must be in some kind of a profession or business so you

already know the nature of livelihood. Why seek answer from astrology about what

you already know?Stability in career:You're the one with a career, I'm sure you

know how you're faring compared to your peers so you already know how stable is

your career. Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?Future

in politics:You just asked a question about stability in career, this means

that you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had noted in your

mail that you are a politician, this question would be a valid question and

could be answered using astrology. People who come here seeking answers have

extremely serious problems in certain arenas of life that they have not been

able to overcome by doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an

astrology discussion group seeking answers from the divine. Everything else has

failed for these people; therefore, they

attempt a different variety of karma in form of astrological advice. This board

is NOT for seeking life-predictions. There are many websites and many

professional astrologers whom you can pay and get a reading.You claim to seek

guidance, knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology; however, you've just

asked for an outright reading. If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas

about predictive astrology, you should read the following books in this

order:1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer2) Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst

Wilhelm3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV Narshimarao4) Crux of

Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay RathOnce you're done reading these books, you would

have procured substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology. While

reading these books, you'll have doubts and questions so come to this board with

your doubts and questions and some learned, benevolent person on

this board will attempt to address your questions and doubts.Hope this answers

your question.Mukund vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

<jawaherjain@s...> wrote:> > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,> >

KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE GROUP AND SOUGHT

YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO URGE TO PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND

KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY.> > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND

ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS BELOW FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE

ACCORDINGLY:-> > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER: > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY

1955. TIME OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.: PLACE OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA> EVENTS: MARRIAGE:

FEBRUARY 23,1984> 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985> 2ND GIRL CHILD

BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI> 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988

AT 03.43 AM DELHI> 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI> MOTHER

EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986> > QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL

POSITION?NATURE OF LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY

IN CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?> > > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE

ANALYSE MY CHART AND GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING

DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND AND OUTCOME OF

REST OF LIFE.> > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,> > WITH REGARDS> >

JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503> 4688 UMRAO SINGH STREET PAHARI DHIRAJ > DELHI-110

006 (INDIA)Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info:

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Dear Mr. Jawahar Jain:

 

In your original mail, you're asking for an outright life-prediction.

You mention having wife and three children in your original mail

which means you have a happy family life which is most people on this

Earth seek. What irritated me and most likely some other members is

that despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-prediction.

 

You make NO mention of your financial problems. If you're seeking a

remedy to a problem you're facing in life that you can't solve even

after performing the requesite Karma, then post on this board YOUR

SPECIFIC problem and some learned member MAY find the time to address

your problem.

 

What still irritates me is what does your question relating to "Do I

have a future in Politics" have to do with your financial problems.

 

In your second mail you make your issues and problems much clearer

than your original mail so let's hope someone reponds to your query.

 

I have no AXE to grind against you. I'm used to seeing people with

serious and sometimes fatal problems like Cancer and other terminal

diseases, lack of children, repeated untimely deaths in the family,

serious problems in married life, etc. etc. seeking help on this

board and then I see you, who appears to have a happy life, seek a

life-prediction so it irritated me.

 

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

<jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,

>

> JAI JINENDER,

>

>

> RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION GIVEN

BY HIM UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE

IRRITATE THE GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE FELLOW

MEMBRS AND GURUS TO SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF

EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR

MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM

PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS

WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I HAVE

TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI ADMINISTRATION AS

UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT

PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT ADVICE OF

MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY OF

MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH

THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED SANJAY JI AND

SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE

DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED

JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN.

>

> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK ABOUT

MY CHART ONLY TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY

PROBLEM IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE

MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY

TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME.

>

> ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENT

EITHER BAD OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH CAUTIOUS

AND HAVE REMEDIAL MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT VERY

WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU LIKE

RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI.

>

> IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.

>

>

> WITH REGARDS

>

> JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)

> -

> monmuk111

> vedic astrology

> Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS

OF THE GROUPS

>

>

> Dear Mr. Jain:

>

> You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already

performed

> your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are you

> seeking from astrology??

>

> Major disease:

>

> Have you been diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems you just

> want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If

you're

> destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll definitely

get a

> major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just

continue

> to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time that you

> actually get it.

>

> Financial position:

>

> You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to figure out your

> financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be able to

> help you now.

>

> Nature of livelihood:

>

> With a wife and three kids to care for, you must be in some kind

of a

> profession or business so you already know the nature of

livelihood.

> Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

>

> Stability in career:

>

> You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how you're faring

> compared to your peers so you already know how stable is your

career.

> Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

>

> Future in politics:

>

> You just asked a question about stability in career, this means

that

> you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had noted in

> your mail that you are a politician, this question would be a

valid

> question and could be answered using astrology.

>

> People who come here seeking answers have extremely serious

problems

> in certain arenas of life that they have not been able to

overcome by

> doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an astrology

> discussion group seeking answers from the divine.

>

> Everything else has failed for these people; therefore, they

attempt

> a different variety of karma in form of astrological advice. This

> board is NOT for seeking life-predictions. There are many

websites

> and many professional astrologers whom you can pay and get a

reading.

>

> You claim to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about predictive

> astrology; however, you've just asked for an outright reading.

>

> If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about predictive

> astrology, you should read the following books in this order:

>

> 1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer

> 2) Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm

> 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV Narshimarao

> 4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath

>

> Once you're done reading these books, you would have procured

> substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology. While

> reading these books, you'll have doubts and questions so come to

this

> board with your doubts and questions and some learned, benevolent

> person on this board will attempt to address your questions and

> doubts.

>

> Hope this answers your question.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> >

> > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,

> >

> > KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE

GROUP

> AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO URGE

TO

> PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE

ASTROLOGY.

> >

> > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS

BELOW

> FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-

> >

> > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER:

> > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.:

PLACE

> OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA

> > EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984

> > 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985

> > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI

> > 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI

> > 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI

> > MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986

> >

> > QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF

> LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY IN

> CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?

> >

> >

> > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY CHART

AND

> GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING

> DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND AND

> OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.

> >

> > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,

> >

> > WITH REGARDS

> >

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Dear Mukund,

 

I think you are seriously over-reacting. If you didn't like his

original post (which was not directed directly to you), just ignore

it. He's just like everyone else, curious to know his future.

 

Best regards,

Harsha

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Dear Mr. Jawahar Jain:

>

> In your original mail, you're asking for an outright life-

prediction.

> You mention having wife and three children in your original mail

> which means you have a happy family life which is most people on

this

> Earth seek. What irritated me and most likely some other members

is

> that despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-

prediction.

>

> You make NO mention of your financial problems. If you're seeking

a

> remedy to a problem you're facing in life that you can't solve

even

> after performing the requesite Karma, then post on this board YOUR

> SPECIFIC problem and some learned member MAY find the time to

address

> your problem.

>

> What still irritates me is what does your question relating to "Do

I

> have a future in Politics" have to do with your financial problems.

>

> In your second mail you make your issues and problems much clearer

> than your original mail so let's hope someone reponds to your

query.

>

> I have no AXE to grind against you. I'm used to seeing people with

> serious and sometimes fatal problems like Cancer and other

terminal

> diseases, lack of children, repeated untimely deaths in the

family,

> serious problems in married life, etc. etc. seeking help on this

> board and then I see you, who appears to have a happy life, seek a

> life-prediction so it irritated me.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> > RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,

> >

> > JAI JINENDER,

> >

> >

> > RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION

GIVEN

> BY HIM UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE

> IRRITATE THE GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE

FELLOW

> MEMBRS AND GURUS TO SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF

> EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR

> MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM

> PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE LAST TWO

YEARS

> WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I

HAVE

> TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI ADMINISTRATION

AS

> UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT

> PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT ADVICE

OF

> MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY

OF

> MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH

> THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED SANJAY JI AND

> SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE

> DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED

> JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN.

> >

> > I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK

ABOUT

> MY CHART ONLY TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY

> PROBLEM IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE

> MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY

> TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME.

> >

> > ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE

EVENT

> EITHER BAD OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH

CAUTIOUS

> AND HAVE REMEDIAL MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT

VERY

> WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU

LIKE

> RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI.

> >

> > IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.

> >

> >

> > WITH REGARDS

> >

> > JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)

> > -

> > monmuk111

> > vedic astrology

> > Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND

MEMBERS

> OF THE GROUPS

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Jain:

> >

> > You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already

> performed

> > your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are

you

> > seeking from astrology??

> >

> > Major disease:

> >

> > Have you been diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems you

just

> > want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If

> you're

> > destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll

definitely

> get a

> > major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just

> continue

> > to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time that

you

> > actually get it.

> >

> > Financial position:

> >

> > You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to figure out

your

> > financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be able

to

> > help you now.

> >

> > Nature of livelihood:

> >

> > With a wife and three kids to care for, you must be in some

kind

> of a

> > profession or business so you already know the nature of

> livelihood.

> > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

> >

> > Stability in career:

> >

> > You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how you're

faring

> > compared to your peers so you already know how stable is your

> career.

> > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

> >

> > Future in politics:

> >

> > You just asked a question about stability in career, this

means

> that

> > you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had noted

in

> > your mail that you are a politician, this question would be a

> valid

> > question and could be answered using astrology.

> >

> > People who come here seeking answers have extremely serious

> problems

> > in certain arenas of life that they have not been able to

> overcome by

> > doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an

astrology

> > discussion group seeking answers from the divine.

> >

> > Everything else has failed for these people; therefore, they

> attempt

> > a different variety of karma in form of astrological advice.

This

> > board is NOT for seeking life-predictions. There are many

> websites

> > and many professional astrologers whom you can pay and get a

> reading.

> >

> > You claim to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about

predictive

> > astrology; however, you've just asked for an outright reading.

> >

> > If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about predictive

> > astrology, you should read the following books in this order:

> >

> > 1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer

> > 2) Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm

> > 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV Narshimarao

> > 4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath

> >

> > Once you're done reading these books, you would have procured

> > substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology.

While

> > reading these books, you'll have doubts and questions so come

to

> this

> > board with your doubts and questions and some learned,

benevolent

> > person on this board will attempt to address your questions

and

> > doubts.

> >

> > Hope this answers your question.

> >

> > Mukund

> >

> > vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,

> > >

> > > KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE

> GROUP

> > AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO

URGE

> TO

> > PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE

> ASTROLOGY.

> > >

> > > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS

> BELOW

> > FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-

> > >

> > > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER:

> > > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.:

> PLACE

> > OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA

> > > EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984

> > > 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985

> > > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI

> > > 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI

> > > 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI

> > > MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986

> > >

> > > QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF

> > LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY

IN

> > CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?

> > >

> > >

> > > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY

CHART

> AND

> > GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING

> > DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND

AND

> > OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.

> > >

> > > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,

> > >

> > > WITH REGARDS

> > >

> > > JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503

> > > 4688 UMRAO SINGH STREET PAHARI DHIRAJ

> > > DELHI-110 006 (INDIA)

> >

> >

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Respected Sh.Mukund ji,

 

Jai Jinendra,

 

I did not ask for life prediction.Without going through one chart how could you

predict that with wife and three children one is having happy child.Are you

Tantrik? I think you have lack of knowledge of Astrology.When one is in

misreable situation than one is going to seek advice from the people who has

divine wisdom like Respected Sanjay Rath ji & Sh.J.N.Sharma ji.It seems you

have business to sell the art of astrology and your aim is to mint money by

befooling the people on this earth. My original mail not only for you but for

the learned astrologers courteous gurus and fellow members of the board and

groups.I ask for the prospects of the politics only to ascertain if promise is

in my horoscope. What status have u in the board?If something good or bad is

promised in my horoscope I willl get in due course.In the year 1971 to 1980 I

had good say in the politics and social service.

 

I need the horoscopic advice because of what promises indicates in my rest of

life.One who distribute the knowledge of education among the required

persons,one get more and more.But it seems you are the professinal astrologer

only.Before saying any other person crook,please see your self first.

 

Are you God? You boasted in your mail that you take the matter of cancer,fatal

disease,lack of children and marriage problem. Can you change the destiny of

the people on the earth? can you stop the frequent death of one's fmily? Are

you Yamraj?If some thing promised in the horoscope,can you change the life of

the poor or vice verse?You hurt my sentiments,Mr.Mukund but I FORGIVE YOU FOR

YOUR SIN AND PREY TO ALMIGHTY TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF HUMOUR AND WISDOM.

 

Mr.Mukund, first be courteus to the mankind.I seek HOROSCOPIC ADVICE and if you

have little sense of knowledge of Great Science of Astrology,u first go through

my chart and than react. Mr.IRRITATE,be calm and worship the God .Send me your

horoscope which will be area of my interest and collection,I will let you know

about your future astrologically. I am a student of Astrology,this is not my

profession.My present is in dark not the future.If I have major disease,i will

take that I will take is boldly and gift from the God which in inreceprocate of

my old sin. I belong to JAIN HERITAGE an know that one will sow so shall one

reap.I have interest in Astrology like other area of one's interest and wish to

serve the people without any reward.

 

Mr.Mukund, if you have divine power than go to hospitals and cure the disease of

the patients who have no money to operate and having medicine.

 

I apologise to all the group members and RESPECTED GURUS for my blunders and sin

if I ever committed while remaining in Group and Private Property of MR MUKUND.

 

 

WITH REGARDS TO ALL

 

 

JAWAHER LAL JAIN: 9811212503 INDIA

-

monmuk111

vedic astrology

Sunday, August 17, 2003 12:10 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS

Dear Mr. Jawahar Jain:In your original mail, you're asking for an outright

life-prediction. You mention having wife and three children in your original

mail which means you have a happy family life which is most people on this

Earth seek. What irritated me and most likely some other members is that

despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-prediction.You make NO

mention of your financial problems. If you're seeking a remedy to a problem

you're facing in life that you can't solve even after performing the requesite

Karma, then post on this board YOUR SPECIFIC problem and some learned member

MAY find the time to address your problem.What still irritates me is what does

your question relating to "Do I have a future in Politics" have to do with your

financial problems.In your second mail you make your issues and problems much

clearer than your original mail so let's hope someone reponds to your query.I

have no AXE to grind against you. I'm used to seeing people with serious and

sometimes fatal problems like Cancer and other terminal diseases, lack of

children, repeated untimely deaths in the family, serious problems in married

life, etc. etc. seeking help on this board and then I see you, who appears to

have a happy life, seek a life-prediction so it irritated me.Mukund--- In

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:>

RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,> > JAI JINENDER,> > > RECD ONE MAIL OF

MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION GIVEN BY HIM UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO

NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE IRRITATE THE GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO

SEEK HELP FROM THE FELLOW MEMBRS AND GURUS TO SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY

FAMILY. IF EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR

MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM PASSING THROUGH

ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I

TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I HAVE TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS

WORKING IN DELHI ADMINISTRATION AS UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW

ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED

NOT ADVICE OF MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY

OF MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH THE

BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED SANJAY JI AND SH.J.N.SHARMA JI

CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT

OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA

VIDYA BHAWAN. > > I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK

ABOUT MY CHART ONLY TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY PROBLEM

IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE

HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME.

> > ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENT EITHER

BAD OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH CAUTIOUS AND HAVE REMEDIAL

MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT VERY WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY

MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU LIKE RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI. >

> IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.> > > WITH REGARDS> >

JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)> - >

monmuk111 > vedic astrology > Saturday, August

16, 2003 12:17 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND

MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS> > > Dear Mr. Jain:> > You seem to have a rich and

fulfilling life. You've already performed > your Dharma of caring for your

wife and children so what are you > seeking from astrology?? > > Major

disease:> > Have you been diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems you just

> want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If you're >

destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll definitely get a > major

disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just continue > to worry about

this "predicted" disease until such time that you > actually get it.> >

Financial position:> > You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to

figure out your > financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be

able to > help you now.> > Nature of livelihood:> > With a wife and three

kids to care for, you must be in some kind of a > profession or business so

you already know the nature of livelihood. > Why seek answer from astrology

about what you already know?> > Stability in career:> > You're the one with

a career, I'm sure you know how you're faring > compared to your peers so you

already know how stable is your career. > Why seek answer from astrology

about what you already know?> > Future in politics:> > You just asked a

question about stability in career, this means that > you're a professionaly

employed person. Well, if you had noted in > your mail that you are a

politician, this question would be a valid > question and could be answered

using astrology. > > People who come here seeking answers have extremely

serious problems > in certain arenas of life that they have not been able to

overcome by > doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an astrology

> discussion group seeking answers from the divine. > > Everything else has

failed for these people; therefore, they attempt > a different variety of

karma in form of astrological advice. This > board is NOT for seeking

life-predictions. There are many websites > and many professional astrologers

whom you can pay and get a reading.> > You claim to seek guidance, knowledge

and ideas about predictive > astrology; however, you've just asked for an

outright reading. > > If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about

predictive > astrology, you should read the following books in this order:> >

1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer> 2) Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst

Wilhelm> 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV Narshimarao> 4)

Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath> > Once you're done reading these

books, you would have procured > substantial knowledge and ideas about

predictive astrology. While > reading these books, you'll have doubts and

questions so come to this > board with your doubts and questions and some

learned, benevolent > person on this board will attempt to address your

questions and > doubts.> > Hope this answers your question.> > Mukund > >

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" > <jawaherjain@s...>

wrote:> > > > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,> > > > KINDLY

ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE GROUP > AND SOUGHT YOUR

GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO URGE TO > PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND

KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY.> > > > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND

ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS BELOW > FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE

ACCORDINGLY:-> > > > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER: > > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH

FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.: PLACE > OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA> >

EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984> > 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY

4,1985> > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI> > 3RD GIRL

CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI> > 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT

1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI> > MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986> > > >

QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF > LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE

IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY IN > CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?>

> > > > > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY CHART AND

> GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING > DISEASE,DEVOTION

TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND AND > OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.>

> > > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,> > > > WITH REGARDS> > > >

JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503> > 4688 UMRAO SINGH STREET PAHARI DHIRAJ > >

DELHI-110 006 (INDIA)> > > Sponsor >

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RESPECTED SH.HARSHA JI,

 

JAI JINENDRA

 

Thanks to understand me, I shall always at your service.Regards for the

gesture.Kindly save the Group from irritate persons.

 

With regards,

 

 

jawaher lal jain: 9811212503 INDIA

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hjay

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Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:45 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS

Dear Mukund,I think you are seriously over-reacting. If you didn't like his

original post (which was not directed directly to you), just ignore it. He's

just like everyone else, curious to know his future.Best regards,Harsha--- In

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote:> Dear Mr.

Jawahar Jain:> > In your original mail, you're asking for an outright

life-prediction. > You mention having wife and three children in your original

mail > which means you have a happy family life which is most people on this >

Earth seek. What irritated me and most likely some other members is > that

despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-prediction.> > You make

NO mention of your financial problems. If you're seeking a > remedy to a

problem you're facing in life that you can't solve even > after performing the

requesite Karma, then post on this board YOUR > SPECIFIC problem and some

learned member MAY find the time to address > your problem.> > What still

irritates me is what does your question relating to "Do I > have a future in

Politics" have to do with your financial problems.> > In your second mail you

make your issues and problems much clearer > than your original mail so let's

hope someone reponds to your query.> > I have no AXE to grind against you. I'm

used to seeing people with > serious and sometimes fatal problems like Cancer

and other terminal > diseases, lack of children, repeated untimely deaths in

the family, > serious problems in married life, etc. etc. seeking help on this

> board and then I see you, who appears to have a happy life, seek a >

life-prediction so it irritated me.> > Mukund> > --- In

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:> >

RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,> > > > JAI JINENDER,> > > > > > RECD ONE

MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION GIVEN > BY HIM

UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE > IRRITATE THE

GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE FELLOW > MEMBRS AND GURUS TO

SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF > EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE

PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR > MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY

FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM > PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR

THE LAST TWO YEARS > WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY

AND I HAVE > TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI ADMINISTRATION

AS > UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT > PREDICT

SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT ADVICE OF > MR MUKUND. IT

SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY OF > MR MUKUND. ONLY

READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH > THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT

GURU LIKE RESPECTED SANJAY JI AND > SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL

OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE > DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993

.. I PASSED > JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN. > > > > I DO

NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK ABOUT > MY CHART ONLY TO

GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY > PROBLEM IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND

MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE > MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND

KINDLY NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY > TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME. > > > >

ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENT > EITHER BAD

OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH CAUTIOUS > AND HAVE REMEDIAL

MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT VERY > WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY

MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU LIKE > RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI.

> > > > IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.> > > > > > WITH

REGARDS> > > > JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)> > ----- Original Message

----- > > monmuk111 > > vedic astrology > >

Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM> > [vedic astrology] Re:

REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS > OF THE GROUPS> > > > > > Dear Mr. Jain:> >

> > You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already > performed >

> your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are you > >

seeking from astrology?? > > > > Major disease:> > > > Have you been

diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems you just > > want to know if

you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If > you're > > destined to suffer

from a major disease, then you'll definitely > get a > > major disease. If

you know about it right now, you'll just > continue > > to worry about this

"predicted" disease until such time that you > > actually get it.> > > >

Financial position:> > > > You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to

figure out your > > financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be

able to > > help you now.> > > > Nature of livelihood:> > > > With a wife

and three kids to care for, you must be in some kind > of a > > profession or

business so you already know the nature of > livelihood. > > Why seek answer

from astrology about what you already know?> > > > Stability in career:> > >

> You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how you're faring > >

compared to your peers so you already know how stable is your > career. > >

Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?> > > > Future in

politics:> > > > You just asked a question about stability in career, this

means > that > > you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had

noted in > > your mail that you are a politician, this question would be a >

valid > > question and could be answered using astrology. > > > > People

who come here seeking answers have extremely serious > problems > > in

certain arenas of life that they have not been able to > overcome by > >

doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an astrology > >

discussion group seeking answers from the divine. > > > > Everything else has

failed for these people; therefore, they > attempt > > a different variety of

karma in form of astrological advice. This > > board is NOT for seeking

life-predictions. There are many > websites > > and many professional

astrologers whom you can pay and get a > reading.> > > > You claim to seek

guidance, knowledge and ideas about predictive > > astrology; however, you've

just asked for an outright reading. > > > > If you're seeking to gain knowlege

and ideas about predictive > > astrology, you should read the following books

in this order:> > > > 1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer> > 2)

Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm> > 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated

approach, by PV Narshimarao> > 4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath> >

> > Once you're done reading these books, you would have procured > >

substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology. While > > reading

these books, you'll have doubts and questions so come to > this > > board with

your doubts and questions and some learned, benevolent > > person on this

board will attempt to address your questions and > > doubts.> > > > Hope

this answers your question.> > > > Mukund > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" > > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:>

> > > > > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,> > > > > > KINDLY

ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE > GROUP > > AND SOUGHT

YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO URGE > TO > > PROVIDE ME

GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE > ASTROLOGY.> > > > > > I

KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS > BELOW > > FOR YOUR

KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-> > > > > > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS

UNDER: > > > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.: >

PLACE > > OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA> > > EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984> >

> 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985> > > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26

SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI> > > 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43

AM DELHI> > > 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI> > >

MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986> > > > > > QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE?

FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF > > LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI

FINANCIALLY?STABILITY IN > > CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?> > > > > > > >

> I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY CHART > AND > >

GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING > > DISEASE,DEVOTION

TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND AND > > OUTCOME OF REST OF

LIFE.> > > > > > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,> > > > > > WITH

REGARDS> > > > > > JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503> > > 4688 UMRAO SINGH

STREET PAHARI DHIRAJ > > > DELHI-110 006 (INDIA)> > > > > >

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Hello Mr. Jain:

 

I was irritated by your original mail and posted a practicle and

somewhat sarcastic reponse to you.

 

I told you directly not to request life-readings on this board.

 

It appears that my note offened you and caused you pain above and

beyond your financial crisis (about which you're silent in the

original mail). For this, please accept my apologies.

 

Regards,

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

<jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> RESPECTED SH.HARSHA JI,

>

> JAI JINENDRA

>

> Thanks to understand me, I shall always at your service.Regards for

the gesture.Kindly save the Group from irritate persons.

>

> With regards,

>

>

> jawaher lal jain: 9811212503 INDIA

> -

> hjay

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:45 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS

OF THE GROUPS

>

>

> Dear Mukund,

>

> I think you are seriously over-reacting. If you didn't like his

> original post (which was not directed directly to you), just

ignore

> it. He's just like everyone else, curious to know his future.

>

> Best regards,

> Harsha

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "monmuk111"

<monmuk111>

> wrote:

> > Dear Mr. Jawahar Jain:

> >

> > In your original mail, you're asking for an outright life-

> prediction.

> > You mention having wife and three children in your original

mail

> > which means you have a happy family life which is most people

on

> this

> > Earth seek. What irritated me and most likely some other

members

> is

> > that despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-

> prediction.

> >

> > You make NO mention of your financial problems. If you're

seeking

> a

> > remedy to a problem you're facing in life that you can't solve

> even

> > after performing the requesite Karma, then post on this board

YOUR

> > SPECIFIC problem and some learned member MAY find the time to

> address

> > your problem.

> >

> > What still irritates me is what does your question relating

to "Do

> I

> > have a future in Politics" have to do with your financial

problems.

> >

> > In your second mail you make your issues and problems much

clearer

> > than your original mail so let's hope someone reponds to your

> query.

> >

> > I have no AXE to grind against you. I'm used to seeing people

with

> > serious and sometimes fatal problems like Cancer and other

> terminal

> > diseases, lack of children, repeated untimely deaths in the

> family,

> > serious problems in married life, etc. etc. seeking help on

this

> > board and then I see you, who appears to have a happy life,

seek a

> > life-prediction so it irritated me.

> >

> > Mukund

> >

> > vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> > > RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,

> > >

> > > JAI JINENDER,

> > >

> > >

> > > RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION

> GIVEN

> > BY HIM UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE

> > IRRITATE THE GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE

> FELLOW

> > MEMBRS AND GURUS TO SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY.

IF

> > EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY

MR

> > MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM

> > PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE LAST TWO

> YEARS

> > WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I

> HAVE

> > TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI

ADMINISTRATION

> AS

> > UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT

> > PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT

ADVICE

> OF

> > MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED

COMPANY

> OF

> > MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY

WITH

> > THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED SANJAY JI AND

> > SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL

SCIENCE

> > DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I

PASSED

> > JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN.

> > >

> > > I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK

> ABOUT

> > MY CHART ONLY TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE.

MY

> > PROBLEM IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE

> > MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY NOT TO SHOW

ENEMITY

> > TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME.

> > >

> > > ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE

> EVENT

> > EITHER BAD OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH

> CAUTIOUS

> > AND HAVE REMEDIAL MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT

> VERY

> > WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE

GURU

> LIKE

> > RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI.

> > >

> > > IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.

> > >

> > >

> > > WITH REGARDS

> > >

> > > JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)

> > > -

> > > monmuk111

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND

> MEMBERS

> > OF THE GROUPS

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Jain:

> > >

> > > You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already

> > performed

> > > your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what

are

> you

> > > seeking from astrology??

> > >

> > > Major disease:

> > >

> > > Have you been diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems

you

> just

> > > want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If

> > you're

> > > destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll

> definitely

> > get a

> > > major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just

> > continue

> > > to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time

that

> you

> > > actually get it.

> > >

> > > Financial position:

> > >

> > > You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to figure out

> your

> > > financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be

able

> to

> > > help you now.

> > >

> > > Nature of livelihood:

> > >

> > > With a wife and three kids to care for, you must be in some

> kind

> > of a

> > > profession or business so you already know the nature of

> > livelihood.

> > > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

> > >

> > > Stability in career:

> > >

> > > You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how you're

> faring

> > > compared to your peers so you already know how stable is

your

> > career.

> > > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

> > >

> > > Future in politics:

> > >

> > > You just asked a question about stability in career, this

> means

> > that

> > > you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had

noted

> in

> > > your mail that you are a politician, this question would be

a

> > valid

> > > question and could be answered using astrology.

> > >

> > > People who come here seeking answers have extremely serious

> > problems

> > > in certain arenas of life that they have not been able to

> > overcome by

> > > doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an

> astrology

> > > discussion group seeking answers from the divine.

> > >

> > > Everything else has failed for these people; therefore,

they

> > attempt

> > > a different variety of karma in form of astrological

advice.

> This

> > > board is NOT for seeking life-predictions. There are many

> > websites

> > > and many professional astrologers whom you can pay and get

a

> > reading.

> > >

> > > You claim to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about

> predictive

> > > astrology; however, you've just asked for an outright

reading.

> > >

> > > If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about

predictive

> > > astrology, you should read the following books in this

order:

> > >

> > > 1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer

> > > 2) Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm

> > > 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV

Narshimarao

> > > 4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath

> > >

> > > Once you're done reading these books, you would have

procured

> > > substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology.

> While

> > > reading these books, you'll have doubts and questions so

come

> to

> > this

> > > board with your doubts and questions and some learned,

> benevolent

> > > person on this board will attempt to address your questions

> and

> > > doubts.

> > >

> > > Hope this answers your question.

> > >

> > > Mukund

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> > > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,

> > > >

> > > > KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF

THE

> > GROUP

> > > AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO

> URGE

> > TO

> > > PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE

> > ASTROLOGY.

> > > >

> > > > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH

DETAILS

> > BELOW

> > > FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-

> > > >

> > > > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER:

> > > > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH:

11.32.AM.:

> > PLACE

> > > OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA

> > > > EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984

> > > > 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985

> > > > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI

> > > > 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI

> > > > 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI

> > > > MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986

> > > >

> > > > QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF

> > > LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?

STABILITY

> IN

> > > CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY

> CHART

> > AND

> > > GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING

> > > DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF

MANKIND

> AND

> > > OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.

> > > >

> > > > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,

> > > >

> > > > WITH REGARDS

> > > >

> > > > JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503

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Hello Mr. Jain:

 

I was debating whether to answer this mail; however, you're spewing

so much Venom at me and my character and my motive, that I'm

compelled to respond.

 

Sir, I'm not a professional or an amature astrologer. I'm not selling

anything on this board and definitely NOTHING relating to Vedic

astrology. God has blessed me with substantial wealth and income;

however, it appears that God chose NOT to bless me with family

happiness. Therefore, I linger on this board reading and learning

from the Masters so that some day I may be able to decipher the

Karmic signatures in my own horoscopes that are denying me family

happiness.

 

Sir, you ask me about my status on this board. I have no status,

neither does any other member EXCEPT for Narsimha who founded this

board and owns this board. This is a PUBLIC forum and if you aren't

able and willing to accept responses from the PUBLIC, don't post on a

public board.

 

Sir, you call me a crook. In my reponse to you, I never called you

any names. I simply requested you NOT to seek life-readings on this

board as the goal/essence of this board is to propagate Vedic

astrology through dialouge and discussion on an open forum and not to

do life-readings for people.

 

Sir, you ask me to be courteous. I have acknowledged that I did post

a sarcastic answer to you and for that I've already posted an apology.

 

Sir, you claim to be of Jain heritage. I'm from Gujarat and grew up

amongst Jains. Jainism is about unconditional forgiveness. My Jain

friends don't go about directly calling people crooks or Yamraj. I

think you should re-visit your Jain heritage before you post a

reponse that exhudes hate, bitterness and vengeance.

 

Sir, most of your mail is pure gibberish. I advice you that you once

more read my original reponse with a cool mind. All I'm telling you

in that reponse is this board is not a place to seek personal life-

readings.

 

Well, this mail goes to over a thousand mail boxes and I feel we've

taken up a lot of time of the members with this useless debate. I

will not repond to you if you ONCE MORE post a note containing

personal attacks on me, my character, my motives and my presence on

this board.

 

One thing I tell you is that I'm a member of this board, I rejoice in

the knowlege I procure on this board and I'm here to stay despite

your attack on my and my character and my motives.

 

Regards.

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

<jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> Respected Sh.Mukund ji,

>

> Jai Jinendra,

>

> I did not ask for life prediction.Without going through one chart

how could you predict that with wife and three children one is having

happy child.Are you Tantrik? I think you have lack of knowledge of

Astrology.When one is in misreable situation than one is going to

seek advice from the people who has divine wisdom like Respected

Sanjay Rath ji & Sh.J.N.Sharma ji.It seems you have business to sell

the art of astrology and your aim is to mint money by befooling the

people on this earth. My original mail not only for you but for the

learned astrologers courteous gurus and fellow members of the board

and groups.I ask for the prospects of the politics only to ascertain

if promise is in my horoscope. What status have u in the board?If

something good or bad is promised in my horoscope I willl get in due

course.In the year 1971 to 1980 I had good say in the politics and

social service.

>

> I need the horoscopic advice because of what promises indicates in

my rest of life.One who distribute the knowledge of education among

the required persons,one get more and more.But it seems you are the

professinal astrologer only.Before saying any other person

crook,please see your self first.

>

> Are you God? You boasted in your mail that you take the matter of

cancer,fatal disease,lack of children and marriage problem. Can you

change the destiny of the people on the earth? can you stop the

frequent death of one's fmily? Are you Yamraj?If some thing promised

in the horoscope,can you change the life of the poor or vice verse?

You hurt my sentiments,Mr.Mukund but I FORGIVE YOU FOR YOUR SIN AND

PREY TO ALMIGHTY TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF HUMOUR AND WISDOM.

>

> Mr.Mukund, first be courteus to the mankind.I seek HOROSCOPIC

ADVICE and if you have little sense of knowledge of Great Science of

Astrology,u first go through my chart and than react. Mr.IRRITATE,be

calm and worship the God .Send me your horoscope which will be area

of my interest and collection,I will let you know about your future

astrologically. I am a student of Astrology,this is not my

profession.My present is in dark not the future.If I have major

disease,i will take that I will take is boldly and gift from the God

which in inreceprocate of my old sin. I belong to JAIN HERITAGE an

know that one will sow so shall one reap.I have interest in Astrology

like other area of one's interest and wish to serve the people

without any reward.

>

> Mr.Mukund, if you have divine power than go to hospitals and cure

the disease of the patients who have no money to operate and having

medicine.

>

> I apologise to all the group members and RESPECTED GURUS for my

blunders and sin if I ever committed while remaining in Group and

Private Property of MR MUKUND.

>

>

> WITH REGARDS TO ALL

>

>

> JAWAHER LAL JAIN: 9811212503 INDIA

> -

> monmuk111

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, August 17, 2003 12:10 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS

OF THE GROUPS

>

>

> Dear Mr. Jawahar Jain:

>

> In your original mail, you're asking for an outright life-

prediction.

> You mention having wife and three children in your original mail

> which means you have a happy family life which is most people on

this

> Earth seek. What irritated me and most likely some other members

is

> that despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-

prediction.

>

> You make NO mention of your financial problems. If you're seeking

a

> remedy to a problem you're facing in life that you can't solve

even

> after performing the requesite Karma, then post on this board

YOUR

> SPECIFIC problem and some learned member MAY find the time to

address

> your problem.

>

> What still irritates me is what does your question relating

to "Do I

> have a future in Politics" have to do with your financial

problems.

>

> In your second mail you make your issues and problems much

clearer

> than your original mail so let's hope someone reponds to your

query.

>

> I have no AXE to grind against you. I'm used to seeing people

with

> serious and sometimes fatal problems like Cancer and other

terminal

> diseases, lack of children, repeated untimely deaths in the

family,

> serious problems in married life, etc. etc. seeking help on this

> board and then I see you, who appears to have a happy life, seek

a

> life-prediction so it irritated me.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> > RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,

> >

> > JAI JINENDER,

> >

> >

> > RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION

GIVEN

> BY HIM UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE

> IRRITATE THE GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE

FELLOW

> MEMBRS AND GURUS TO SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF

> EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR

> MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM

> PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE LAST TWO

YEARS

> WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I

HAVE

> TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI

ADMINISTRATION AS

> UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT

> PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT

ADVICE OF

> MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY

OF

> MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY

WITH

> THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED SANJAY JI AND

> SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE

> DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED

> JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN.

> >

> > I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK

ABOUT

> MY CHART ONLY TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY

> PROBLEM IS SERIOUS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE

> MR.MUKUND.I NEED DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY

> TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN PEOPLE LIKE ME.

> >

> > ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE

EVENT

> EITHER BAD OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE MAY VERY MUCH

CAUTIOUS

> AND HAVE REMEDIAL MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT

VERY

> WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU

LIKE

> RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI.

> >

> > IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.

> >

> >

> > WITH REGARDS

> >

> > JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)

> > -

> > monmuk111

> > vedic astrology

> > Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND

MEMBERS

> OF THE GROUPS

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr. Jain:

> >

> > You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already

> performed

> > your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are

you

> > seeking from astrology??

> >

> > Major disease:

> >

> > Have you been diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems you

just

> > want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If

> you're

> > destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll

definitely

> get a

> > major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just

> continue

> > to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time that

you

> > actually get it.

> >

> > Financial position:

> >

> > You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to figure out

your

> > financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be

able to

> > help you now.

> >

> > Nature of livelihood:

> >

> > With a wife and three kids to care for, you must be in some

kind

> of a

> > profession or business so you already know the nature of

> livelihood.

> > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

> >

> > Stability in career:

> >

> > You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how you're

faring

> > compared to your peers so you already know how stable is your

> career.

> > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?

> >

> > Future in politics:

> >

> > You just asked a question about stability in career, this

means

> that

> > you're a professionaly employed person. Well, if you had

noted in

> > your mail that you are a politician, this question would be a

> valid

> > question and could be answered using astrology.

> >

> > People who come here seeking answers have extremely serious

> problems

> > in certain arenas of life that they have not been able to

> overcome by

> > doing the requisite karma; therefore, they come to an

astrology

> > discussion group seeking answers from the divine.

> >

> > Everything else has failed for these people; therefore, they

> attempt

> > a different variety of karma in form of astrological advice.

This

> > board is NOT for seeking life-predictions. There are many

> websites

> > and many professional astrologers whom you can pay and get a

> reading.

> >

> > You claim to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about

predictive

> > astrology; however, you've just asked for an outright

reading.

> >

> > If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about predictive

> > astrology, you should read the following books in this order:

> >

> > 1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer

> > 2) Vaults of Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm

> > 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV Narshimarao

> > 4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath

> >

> > Once you're done reading these books, you would have procured

> > substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology.

While

> > reading these books, you'll have doubts and questions so come

to

> this

> > board with your doubts and questions and some learned,

benevolent

> > person on this board will attempt to address your questions

and

> > doubts.

> >

> > Hope this answers your question.

> >

> > Mukund

> >

> > vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,

> > >

> > > KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE

> GROUP

> > AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO

URGE

> TO

> > PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE

> ASTROLOGY.

> > >

> > > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS

> BELOW

> > FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-

> > >

> > > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER:

> > > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH:

11.32.AM.:

> PLACE

> > OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA

> > > EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984

> > > 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985

> > > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI

> > > 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI

> > > 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI

> > > MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986

> > >

> > > QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF

> > LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY

IN

> > CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?

> > >

> > >

> > > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY

CHART

> AND

> > GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING

> > DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND

AND

> > OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.

> > >

> > > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,

> > >

> > > WITH REGARDS

> > >

> > > JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503

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I think that this group is for vedic astrology discussions.Not a place to expose

personal irritations or use abusing language to other group members

postings.everyone has the freedom to seek for guidance in astrology.The

moderator should take care of screening messages with strong content and

abuse.In future,lets hope decent posting and answers to astrological questions.

 

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Raji

monmuk111 <monmuk111 > wrote:

Hello Mr. Jain:I was irritated by your original mail and posted a practicle and

somewhat sarcastic reponse to you.I told you directly not to request

life-readings on this board.It appears that my note offened you and caused you

pain above and beyond your financial crisis (about which you're silent in the

original mail). For this, please accept my apologies.Regards,Mukund--- In

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:>

RESPECTED SH.HARSHA JI,> > JAI JINENDRA> > Thanks to understand me, I shall

always at your service.Regards for the gesture.Kindly save the Group from

irritate persons.> > With regards,> > > jawaher lal jain: 9811212503 INDIA>

- >

hjay > vedic astrology > Sunday, August 17,

2003 7:45 AM> [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS

OF THE GROUPS> > > Dear Mukund,> > I think you are seriously over-reacting.

If you didn't like his > original post (which was not directed directly to

you), just ignore > it. He's just like everyone else, curious to know his

future.> > Best regards,> Harsha> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> > wrote:> >

Dear Mr. Jawahar Jain:> > > > In your original mail, you're asking for an

outright life-> prediction.

> > You mention having wife and three children in your original mail > >

which means you have a happy family life which is most people on > this > >

Earth seek. What irritated me and most likely some other members > is > >

that despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-> prediction.> >

> > You make NO mention of your financial problems. If you're seeking > a >

> remedy to a problem you're facing in life that you can't solve > even > >

after performing the requesite Karma, then post on this board YOUR > >

SPECIFIC problem and some learned member MAY find the time to > address > >

your problem.> >

> > What still irritates me is what does your question relating to "Do > I >

> have a future in Politics" have to do with your financial problems.> > >

> In your second mail you make your issues and problems much clearer > > than

your original mail so let's hope someone reponds to your > query.> > > >

I have no AXE to grind against you. I'm used to seeing people with > >

serious and sometimes fatal problems like Cancer and other > terminal > >

diseases, lack of children, repeated untimely deaths in the > family, > >

serious problems in married life, etc. etc. seeking help on this > > board

and then I see you, who appears to have a happy life, seek

a > > life-prediction so it irritated me.> > > > Mukund> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" > > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:>

> > RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,> > > > > > JAI JINENDER,> > > >

> > > > > RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION >

GIVEN > > BY HIM UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE >

> IRRITATE THE GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO SEEK HELP FROM THE > FELLOW >

> MEMBRS AND GURUS TO SPEND MY REST OF THE LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF > >

EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE PHILOSPHORIC PREDICTION GIVEN BY

MR > > MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY FUTURE. NOW-A - DAYS I AM > >

PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE LAST TWO > YEARS > >

WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED FINANCIALLY AND I > HAVE > >

TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN DELHI ADMINISTRATION > AS > >

UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT > > PREDICT

SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I NEED NOT ADVICE > OF > > MR

MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY > OF > > MR

MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH > > THE

BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED SANJAY JI AND > >

SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL SCIENCE > > DELHI

CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED > > JYOTISH

PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN. > > > > > > I DO NOT

UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK > ABOUT > > MY CHART

ONLY TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY > > PROBLEM IS

SERIOUS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE > > MR.MUKUND.I NEED

DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY > > TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN

PEOPLE LIKE ME. > > > > > > ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE

KNOWLEDGE OF THE > EVENT > > EITHER BAD OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE

MAY VERY MUCH >

CAUTIOUS > > AND HAVE REMEDIAL MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE CHANGED I KNOW IT >

VERY > > WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY MINIMISE BY THE GRACE OF THE DIVINE GURU >

LIKE > > RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI. > > > > > > IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT

ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.> > > > > > > > > WITH REGARDS> > > >

> > JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)> > > - >

> > monmuk111 > > > vedic astrology > > >

Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17 AM> > > [vedic astrology]

Re: REQUEST

TO ALL GURUS AND > MEMBERS > > OF THE GROUPS> > > > > > > > > Dear

Mr. Jain:> > > > > > You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've

already > > performed > > > your Dharma of caring for your wife and

children so what are > you > > > seeking from astrology?? > > > > > >

Major disease:> > > > > > Have you been diagnosed with a major

disease??? It seems you > just > > > want to know if you'll EVER suffer

from a major disease. If > > you're > >

> destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll > definitely > >

get a > > > major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just >

> continue > > > to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time

that > you > > > actually get it.> > > > > > Financial position:>

> > > > > You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to figure out >

your > > > financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be able >

to > > > help you now.> > > > > > Nature of

livelihood:> > > > > > With a wife and three kids to care for, you must be

in some > kind > > of a > > > profession or business so you already know

the nature of > > livelihood. > > > Why seek answer from astrology about

what you already know?> > > > > > Stability in career:> > > > > >

You're the one with a career, I'm sure you know how you're > faring > > >

compared to your peers so you already know how stable is your > > career. >

> > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already know?> > > >

> > Future in politics:> > > > > > You just asked a question about

stability in career, this > means > > that > > > you're a professionaly

employed person. Well, if you had noted > in > > > your mail that you are

a politician, this question would be a > > valid > > > question and could

be answered using astrology. > > > > > > People who come here seeking

answers have extremely serious > > problems > > > in certain arenas of

life that they have not been able to > > overcome by > > > doing the

requisite karma; therefore,

they come to an > astrology > > > discussion group seeking answers from

the divine. > > > > > > Everything else has failed for these people;

therefore, they > > attempt > > > a different variety of karma in form of

astrological advice. > This > > > board is NOT for seeking

life-predictions. There are many > > websites > > > and many professional

astrologers whom you can pay and get a > > reading.> > > > > > You claim

to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about > predictive > > > astrology;

however, you've just asked for an outright reading.

> > > > > > If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about predictive

> > > astrology, you should read the following books in this order:> > >

> > > 1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer> > > 2) Vaults of

Heaven, by Ernst Wilhelm> > > 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach,

by PV Narshimarao> > > 4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath> > > >

> > Once you're done reading these books, you would have procured > > >

substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology. > While > > >

reading these books, you'll have doubts and

questions so come > to > > this > > > board with your doubts and

questions and some learned, > benevolent > > > person on this board will

attempt to address your questions > and > > > doubts.> > > > > >

Hope this answers your question.> > > > > > Mukund > > > > > > ---

In vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" > > > <jawaherjain@s...>

wrote:> > > > > > > > RESPECTED GURUS AND ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,> > >

> > >

> > KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE > > GROUP >

> > AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO > URGE > >

TO > > > PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE > >

ASTROLOGY.> > > > > > > > I KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY

BIRTH DETAILS > > BELOW > > > FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE

ACCORDINGLY:-> > > > > > > > MY BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER: > > > >

DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.: > > PLACE > >

> OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA> > > > EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984> > >

> 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB: MAY 4,1985> > > > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26

SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI> > > > 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT

03.43 AM DELHI> > > > 4TH BOY CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI>

> > > MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR 3RD 1986> > > > > > > > QURESTIONS:1.

MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL POSITION?NATURE OF > > > LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN

JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI FINANCIALLY?STABILITY > IN > > > CAREER?FUTURE IN

POLITICS?> > >

> > > > > > > > > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE

MY > CHART > > AND > > > GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY

PROFESSION,UPCOMING > > > DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE

WELFARE OF MANKIND > AND > > > OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.> > > > > >

> > AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY ANXIOUSLY,> > > > > > > > WITH REGARDS>

> > > > > > > JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503> > > > 4688 UMRAO SINGH

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Respected Mr.Mukund ji,

 

Kindly send you birth details to tell your future free of cost i.e.Date of

birth,Time of Birth & Place of Birth. I will let you know the events to be take

place with two months period.Moreover You may contact to My Guru Sh.J.N.Sharmaji

and Guru Bhai Shri Jinendra Jain on his telephone 9811595947 any time get the

correct prediction about your life.I am giving all these information only to

let you know the skill of Indian Astrologer and you will be satisfied at all

respect.

 

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Monday, August 18, 2003 1:19 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS

Hello Mr. Jain:I was irritated by your original mail and posted a practicle and

somewhat sarcastic reponse to you.I told you directly not to request

life-readings on this board.It appears that my note offened you and caused you

pain above and beyond your financial crisis (about which you're silent in the

original mail). For this, please accept my apologies.Regards,Mukund--- In

vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:>

RESPECTED SH.HARSHA JI,> > JAI JINENDRA> > Thanks to understand me, I shall

always at your service.Regards for the gesture.Kindly save the Group from

irritate persons.> > With regards,> > > jawaher lal jain: 9811212503 INDIA>

- > hjay > To:

vedic astrology > Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:45 AM>

[vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS>

> > Dear Mukund,> > I think you are seriously over-reacting. If you didn't

like his > original post (which was not directed directly to you), just

ignore > it. He's just like everyone else, curious to know his future.> >

Best regards,> Harsha> > > > > > vedic astrology,

"monmuk111" <monmuk111> > wrote:> > Dear Mr. Jawahar Jain:> > > >

In your original mail, you're asking for an outright life-> prediction. > >

You mention having wife and three children in your original mail > > which

means you have a happy family life which is most people on > this > > Earth

seek. What irritated me and most likely some other members > is > > that

despite having a normal life, you were seeking a life-> prediction.> > >

> You make NO mention of your financial problems. If you're seeking > a > >

remedy to a problem you're facing in life that you can't solve > even > >

after performing the requesite Karma, then post on this board YOUR > >

SPECIFIC problem and some learned member MAY find the time to > address > >

your problem.> > > > What still irritates me is what does your question

relating to "Do > I > > have a future in Politics" have to do with your

financial problems.> > > > In your second mail you make your issues and

problems much clearer > > than your original mail so let's hope someone

reponds to your > query.> > > > I have no AXE to grind against you. I'm

used to seeing people with > > serious and sometimes fatal problems like

Cancer and other > terminal > > diseases, lack of children, repeated

untimely deaths in the > family, > > serious problems in married life, etc.

etc. seeking help on this > > board and then I see you, who appears to have a

happy life, seek a > > life-prediction so it irritated me.> > > > Mukund>

> > > vedic astrology, "jawaherjain" > >

<jawaherjain@s...> wrote:> > > RESPECTED GURUS AND GROUP MEMBERS,> > > >

> > JAI JINENDER,> > > > > > > > > RECD ONE MAIL OF MR.MUKUND.NOT

SATISFIED WITH THE PREDICTION > GIVEN > > BY HIM UNAUTHORITATIVELY.I DO NOT

UNDERSTAND WHICH WORD OF MINE > > IRRITATE THE GENTLEMAN. I JOIN THE GROUP TO

SEEK HELP FROM THE > FELLOW > > MEMBRS AND GURUS TO SPEND MY REST OF THE

LIFE WITH MY FAMILY. IF > > EVERYTHING WAS OK AS PER THE PHILOSPHORIC

PREDICTION GIVEN BY MR > > MUKUND THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK FOR MY FUTURE.

NOW-A - DAYS I AM > > PASSING THROUGH ACUTE FINANCIAL DISASTER AND FOR THE

LAST TWO > YEARS > > WHEN KETU MAHADASA STARTED I TOTALLY FINISHED

FINANCIALLY AND I > HAVE > > TO DEPEND ON MY WIFE SALARY WHO IS WORKING IN

DELHI ADMINISTRATION > AS > > UDC. I AM IN HUGE DEBT. IF MR.MUKUND KNOW

ASTROLOGY HE WILL NOT > > PREDICT SUCH A SHABBY PREDICTION .IF I HAD MONEY I

NEED NOT ADVICE > OF > > MR MUKUND. IT SEEMS THAT THE GROUP IS THE PRIVATE

LIMITED COMPANY > OF > > MR MUKUND. ONLY READING BOOKS ONE CANNOT

UNDERSTAND ASTROLOGY WITH > > THE BLESSING OF COMPETENT GURU LIKE RESPECTED

SANJAY JI AND > > SH.J.N.SHARMA JI CHAIRMAN ,INDIAN COUNCIL OF ASTROLOGICAL

SCIENCE > > DELHI CHAPTER. I AM A STUDENT OF ASTROLOGY SINCE 1993 . I PASSED

> > JYOTISH PRAVEEN FROM ICAS FROM BHARATIYA VIDYA BHAWAN. > > > > > > I

DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IRRITATION SHOWN BY MR MUKUND. I ASK > ABOUT > > MY

CHART ONLY TO GET ONE HAND GUIDENCE ABOUT MY REST OF LIFE. MY > > PROBLEM IS

SERIOUS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY MAY BE NOT FOR HON'BLE > > MR.MUKUND.I NEED

DIVINE HELP MR.MUKUND KINDLY NOT TO SHOW ENEMITY > > TOWARDS DOWN TRODDEN

PEOPLE LIKE ME. > > > > > > ASTROLOGY IS THE RIGHT PATH FOR HAVING PRE

KNOWLEDGE OF THE > EVENT > > EITHER BAD OR GOOD.IF ONE KNOW IN ADVANCE ONE

MAY VERY MUCH > CAUTIOUS > > AND HAVE REMEDIAL MEASURE.DESTINY CAN NOT BE

CHANGED I KNOW IT > VERY > > WELL BUT ILL EFFECT MAY MINIMISE BY THE GRACE

OF THE DIVINE GURU > LIKE > > RESPECTED SHRI SANJAY RATH JI. > > > > >

> IF ANY OF MY WORD HURT ANY BODY I APOLIGISE IN ADVANCE.> > > > > > > >

> WITH REGARDS> > > > > > JAWAHER LAL JAIN-9811212503 (INDIA)> > >

- > > > monmuk111 > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:17

AM> > > [vedic astrology] Re: REQUEST TO ALL GURUS AND > MEMBERS

> > OF THE GROUPS> > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Jain:> > > > > >

You seem to have a rich and fulfilling life. You've already > > performed >

> > your Dharma of caring for your wife and children so what are > you > >

> seeking from astrology?? > > > > > > Major disease:> > > > > >

Have you been diagnosed with a major disease??? It seems you > just > > >

want to know if you'll EVER suffer from a major disease. If > > you're > > >

destined to suffer from a major disease, then you'll > definitely > > get

a > > > major disease. If you know about it right now, you'll just > >

continue > > > to worry about this "predicted" disease until such time that

> you > > > actually get it.> > > > > > Financial position:> > > >

> > You're 48 years old, if you haven't been able to figure out > your >

> > financial position by now on your own, astrology won't be able > to >

> > help you now.> > > > > > Nature of livelihood:> > > > > >

With a wife and three kids to care for, you must be in some > kind > > of a

> > > profession or business so you already know the nature of > >

livelihood. > > > Why seek answer from astrology about what you already

know?> > > > > > Stability in career:> > > > > > You're the one

with a career, I'm sure you know how you're > faring > > > compared to

your peers so you already know how stable is your > > career. > > > Why

seek answer from astrology about what you already know?> > > > > > Future

in politics:> > > > > > You just asked a question about stability in

career, this > means > > that > > > you're a professionaly employed

person. Well, if you had noted > in > > > your mail that you are a

politician, this question would be a > > valid > > > question and could

be answered using astrology. > > > > > > People who come here seeking

answers have extremely serious > > problems > > > in certain arenas of

life that they have not been able to > > overcome by > > > doing the

requisite karma; therefore, they come to an > astrology > > > discussion

group seeking answers from the divine. > > > > > > Everything else has

failed for these people; therefore, they > > attempt > > > a different

variety of karma in form of astrological advice. > This > > > board is

NOT for seeking life-predictions. There are many > > websites > > > and

many professional astrologers whom you can pay and get a > > reading.> > >

> > > You claim to seek guidance, knowledge and ideas about > predictive

> > > astrology; however, you've just asked for an outright reading. > >

> > > > If you're seeking to gain knowlege and ideas about predictive > >

> astrology, you should read the following books in this order:> > > > > >

1) Vedic Astrology, by Ronnie Gale Dreyer> > > 2) Vaults of Heaven, by

Ernst Wilhelm> > > 3) Vedic Astrology and integrated approach, by PV

Narshimarao> > > 4) Crux of Vedic Astrology, by Sanjay Rath> > > > > >

Once you're done reading these books, you would have procured > > >

substantial knowledge and ideas about predictive astrology. > While > > >

reading these books, you'll have doubts and questions so come > to > > this

> > > board with your doubts and questions and some learned, > benevolent

> > > person on this board will attempt to address your questions > and >

> > doubts.> > > > > > Hope this answers your question.> > > > > >

Mukund > > > > > > vedic astrology, "jawaherjain"

> > > <jawaherjain@s...> wrote:> > > > > > > > RESPECTED GURUS AND

ALL THE GROUP MEMBERS,> > > > > > > > KINDLY ACKNOWLEDGE MY BEST WISHES

BEING A NEW MEMBER OF THE > > GROUP > > > AND SOUGHT YOUR GUIDENCE IN THE

FIELD OF ASTROLGY AND ALSO > URGE > > TO > > > PROVIDE ME GUIDENCE AND

KNOWLEDGE AND IDEAS OF PREDICTIVE > > ASTROLOGY.> > > > > > > > I

KINDLY DRAW YOUR KIND ATTENTION TOWARDS MY BIRTH DETAILS > > BELOW > > >

FOR YOUR KIND PERUSAL AND GUIDENCE ACCORDINGLY:-> > > > > > > > MY

BIRTH DETAIL IS AS UNDER: > > > > DATE OF BIRTH: 14TH FEBRUARY 1955. TIME

OF BIRTH: 11.32.AM.: > > PLACE > > > OF BIRTH: DELHI.INDIA> > > >

EVENTS: MARRIAGE: FEBRUARY 23,1984> > > > 1ST BOY CHILD BORN DEAD IN WOMB:

MAY 4,1985> > > > 2ND GIRL CHILD BORN: 26 SEPT 1986 AT 10.48 PM DELHI> >

> > 3RD GIRL CHILD BORN: 07 JAN 1988 AT 03.43 AM DELHI> > > > 4TH BOY

CHILD BORN: 30 SEPT 1989 AT 10.42 AM DELHI> > > > MOTHER EXPIED: DECEMEBR

3RD 1986> > > > > > > > QURESTIONS:1. MAJOR DISEASE? FINANCIAL

POSITION?NATURE OF > > > LIVELIHOOD?FUTURE IN JYOTISH?RIN MUKTI

FINANCIALLY?STABILITY > IN > > > CAREER?FUTURE IN POLITICS?> > > > >

> > > > > > > I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR GOODSELF IF YOU PLEASE ANALYSE MY >

CHART > > AND > > > GUIDE ME ACCORDINGLY REGARDING MY PROFESSION,UPCOMING

> > > DISEASE,DEVOTION TOWARDS ASTROLOGY FOR THE WELFARE OF MANKIND > AND

> > > OUTCOME OF REST OF LIFE.> > > > > > > > AWAITING FOR YOUR

REPLY ANXIOUSLY,> > > > > > > > WITH REGARDS> > > > > > > >

JAWAHERLAL JAIN: 9811212503> > > > 4688 UMRAO SINGH STREET PAHARI DHIRAJ >

> > > DELHI-110 006 (INDIA)> > > > > > > > >

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