Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>, ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>. Dear List members, I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could have happened then. The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought to be tested. However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only one who could do so, and he is right. Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also attempted to unravel the puzzle. I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of prediction. I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now about the events: I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems. In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious. Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born. If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am certain that I would be pardoned for that. This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list. In humility, Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Thanks for the puzzle and its solution. Your summation of the various attempts by members is very striking. The Science is Accurate, but the application can be mistaken Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>, ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>. Dear List members, I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could have happened then. The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought to be tested. However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only one who could do so, and he is right. Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also attempted to unravel the puzzle. I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of prediction. I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now about the events: I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems. In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious. Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born. If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am certain that I would be pardoned for that. This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list. In humility, Chandrashekhar.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Your use of is subject to the Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Dear Chandra Shekar Ji, Thanks for enlightening us. But will you please explain some questions by me> > can imagine what a setback it was. This was > Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my > lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th > was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and > Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is > obvious. Here the dasa lord was Sat placed in 7th, Moon though 8th lord well placed in 11th and sun 9th lord in 3rd. I think your A10 is in aries. I still do not get the connection of set back in career. can you explain this. (I did not look in to your D-10). I will ber greatful if you can explain the timing wrf Dasa you were running. Thanks Lakshman Other event was that my grandson was born > on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In > Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and > Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house > with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi > yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time. > It might interest the members that my grandson had > Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with > that I had when I was born.If I have missed > mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight > and I am certain that I would be pardoned for > that.This was also an attempt on my part, that even > data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary > dashas with gochar position used properly can, with > the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate > prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of > this list.In humility,Chandrashekhar. > Sponsor > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, > and more Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Dear Laxman, For Sagitarius ascendant, saturn is lord of 2nd and 3rd. Sun Lord of the 9th was in 3rd in 2nd from natal Sun and Mars lord of 5th the other trinal lord in 6th in 12th house from Natal Mars. Need I say more? Chandrashekhar. - Lakshman Brahma vedic astrology Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:22 PM Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle. Dear Chandra Shekar Ji,Thanks for enlightening us. But will you pleaseexplain some questions by me>> can imagine what a setback it was. This was> Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my> lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th> was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and> Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is> obvious. Here the dasa lord was Sat placed in 7th, Moon though8th lord well placed in 11th and sun 9th lord in 3rd.I think your A10 is in aries. I still do not get theconnection of set back in career. can you explainthis. (I did not look in to your D-10). I will bergreatful if you can explain the timing wrf Dasa youwere running.ThanksLakshmanOther event was that my grandson was born> on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In> Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and> Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house> with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi> yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time.> It might interest the members that my grandson had> Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with> that I had when I was born.If I have missed> mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight> and I am certain that I would be pardoned for> that.This was also an attempt on my part, that even> data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary> dashas with gochar position used properly can, with> the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate> prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of> this list.In humility,Chandrashekhar.> Sponsor> > Archives:> vedic astrology> > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu> || > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service. > > > > > Do you ?> Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms,> and more Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and morehttp://tax.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Namaste Chandrashekhar ji, Thank you for the puzzle and the answers. > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my > friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav > Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to > manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had > demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) > we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the > final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. > On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and > the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as > some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. > and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason > was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that > there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our > we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10. In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house shows setbacks too. After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in the setback. In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be related to engineering. BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your eldest child's eldest child? As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May 7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it. Thank you for the puzzle again! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Dear Narasimharaoji, I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to 8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented by a Planet and a House. The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present. I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned. I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge. I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope. I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Namaste Chandrashekhar ji, Thank you for the puzzle and the answers. > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my > friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav > Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to > manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had > demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) > we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the > final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. > On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and > the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as > some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. > and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason > was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that > there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our > we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10. In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house shows setbacks too. After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in the setback. In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be related to engineering. BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your eldest child's eldest child? As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May 7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it. Thank you for the puzzle again! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Dear Chandrashekhar, I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon sub period? Best regards, Nimmi - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Narasimharaoji, I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to 8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented by a Planet and a House. The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present. I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned. I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge. I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope. I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Namaste Chandrashekhar ji, Thank you for the puzzle and the answers. > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my > friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav > Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to > manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had > demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) > we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the > final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. > On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and > the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as > some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. > and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason > was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that > there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our > we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10. In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house shows setbacks too. After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in the setback. In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be related to engineering. BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your eldest child's eldest child? As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May 7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it. Thank you for the puzzle again! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear madam, Though the question is posted to Shri.Chandrasekharji, i thought i can also send in my views . So far as analysis of professional front is concerned i believe the A10 in the rasi chart is to be given due importance. Here in the said case A 10 is placed in Taurus with A4. A 10 is subject to the aspect of Sun, Buda, Venus, Guru & Moon. Guru & and Moon are also placed in HL, A8 & A3 and are associated with Gulikha. We all know that the 10th lord Buda's association with Sun the 9th lord so far as Dhanur lagna is concerned is a Rajayoga par excellence. At the outset we can infer that the professional front is very strong. As regards the kind/kinds of profession one should look at the influence the A 10 is being subject to. Here we can notice that while the Maya peeta A 10 is subject to aspects of atleast five planets the Satya peeta 10th house is subject to the remaining 4 planets. As per JS Sani in Swamsa gives expertise in all fields. i am inclined to believe and to extend this principle when Sani is Atmakaraka too(karakamsa). Now to be specific to your question /doubt relating to insurance - A 10 is subject to the aspect of Guru(jeevaha) and Moon who are connected to A 8(Mrityu pada) from the sign of Libra whose lord Venus(he also aspects the A 10) breathed life into dead persons through Mrita Sanjeevani Mantra. i believe that every single point should be given due weightage. A4 is associated with A 10 - it speaks about the influence of Mother in career front. Taurus gives the hotel/agricultural activities,influence of Taurus,venus and Moon speaks about the involvement in dairy field, Sun gives the governmental touch, Moon the connection with water,buda gives the touch of communication, the combination of Buda & venus in 2nd gives the touch of Astrology, the same combination also speaks of touch of theatre/activities connected to theatre, the parivarthana between buda & Sani gives the hint relating to the business ventures, the association of sani, mars & rahu/buda, mars, rahu(on account of parivarthana) gives the karmic touch of setbacks(one should take into account the influence of Mandi/poison spread by others and Gulikha/suicidal) and the resultant agony in business ventures(sani also rules the third, also see the influence of A3 - initiatives).It is fascinating! i request Shri Chandrasekharji to kindly excuse me for this intervention. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar, I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon sub period? Best regards, Nimmi - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Narasimharaoji, I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to 8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented by a Planet and a House. The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present. I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned. I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge. I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope. I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Namaste Chandrashekhar ji, Thank you for the puzzle and the answers. > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my > friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav > Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to > manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had > demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) > we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the > final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. > On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and > the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as > some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. > and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason > was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that > there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our > we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10. In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house shows setbacks too. After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in the setback. In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be related to engineering. BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your eldest child's eldest child? As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May 7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it. Thank you for the puzzle again! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Dear Nimmi, The period was Saturn -Mars-Sun. Saturn also makes one get connected with Insurance.Acturial science and dealing in probability and large number of data might have something to do with this. Saturn is lord of 3rd and Mars of 5th Sun of 9th. They all have sambamdha. Chandrashekhar. - Nimmi Ragavan vedic astrology Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:17 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Chandrashekhar, I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon sub period? Best regards, Nimmi - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Narasimharaoji, I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to 8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented by a Planet and a House. The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present. I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned. I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge. I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope. I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Namaste Chandrashekhar ji, Thank you for the puzzle and the answers. > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my > friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav > Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to > manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had > demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) > we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the > final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. > On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and > the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as > some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. > and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason > was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that > there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our > we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10. In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house shows setbacks too. After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in the setback. In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be related to engineering. BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your eldest child's eldest child? As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May 7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it. Thank you for the puzzle again! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Dear Rama Narayanan, I like the way you aproach analysis of planets and houses.If I may point out, in my horoscope you will see that all planets are making sambamdham with others. No body has commented on this. Saturn forming trine with Jupiter and Moon and 3rd house which is his mooltrikona is also to be seen when you find him associating with Mars, the reason I was assesing losses arising out of Motor accidents, Fire and Road transits would be clear. Thanks for taking interest in my chart. Chandrashekhar. - rama narayanan vedic astrology Saturday, April 12, 2003 6:11 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear madam, Though the question is posted to Shri.Chandrasekharji, i thought i can also send in my views . So far as analysis of professional front is concerned i believe the A10 in the rasi chart is to be given due importance. Here in the said case A 10 is placed in Taurus with A4. A 10 is subject to the aspect of Sun, Buda, Venus, Guru & Moon. Guru & and Moon are also placed in HL, A8 & A3 and are associated with Gulikha. We all know that the 10th lord Buda's association with Sun the 9th lord so far as Dhanur lagna is concerned is a Rajayoga par excellence. At the outset we can infer that the professional front is very strong. As regards the kind/kinds of profession one should look at the influence the A 10 is being subject to. Here we can notice that while the Maya peeta A 10 is subject to aspects of atleast five planets the Satya peeta 10th house is subject to the remaining 4 planets. As per JS Sani in Swamsa gives expertise in all fields. i am inclined to believe and to extend this principle when Sani is Atmakaraka too(karakamsa). Now to be specific to your question /doubt relating to insurance - A 10 is subject to the aspect of Guru(jeevaha) and Moon who are connected to A 8(Mrityu pada) from the sign of Libra whose lord Venus(he also aspects the A 10) breathed life into dead persons through Mrita Sanjeevani Mantra. i believe that every single point should be given due weightage. A4 is associated with A 10 - it speaks about the influence of Mother in career front. Taurus gives the hotel/agricultural activities,influence of Taurus,venus and Moon speaks about the involvement in dairy field, Sun gives the governmental touch, Moon the connection with water,buda gives the touch of communication, the combination of Buda & venus in 2nd gives the touch of Astrology, the same combination also speaks of touch of theatre/activities connected to theatre, the parivarthana between buda & Sani gives the hint relating to the business ventures, the association of sani, mars & rahu/buda, mars, rahu(on account of parivarthana) gives the karmic touch of setbacks(one should take into account the influence of Mandi/poison spread by others and Gulikha/suicidal) and the resultant agony in business ventures(sani also rules the third, also see the influence of A3 - initiatives).It is fascinating! i request Shri Chandrasekharji to kindly excuse me for this intervention. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar, I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon sub period? Best regards, Nimmi - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Narasimharaoji, I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to 8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented by a Planet and a House. The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present. I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned. I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge. I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope. I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Namaste Chandrashekhar ji, Thank you for the puzzle and the answers. > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my > friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav > Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to > manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had > demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) > we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the > final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. > On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and > the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as > some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. > and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason > was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that > there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our > we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10. In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house shows setbacks too. After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in the setback. In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be related to engineering. BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your eldest child's eldest child? As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May 7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it. Thank you for the puzzle again! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted April 13, 2003 Report Share Posted April 13, 2003 Dear Chandrashekhar, The exchange of saturn and mercury could imply that. I remember that strong saturn in virgo gives proficiency in statistics. But to apply it to insurance, I would have expected the influence of 8th ruler moon. In this case, the only connection I can see is the aspect from Jupiter which is associated with the 8th ruler. Unless I look at constellations, when saturn and mars are in jupiter's star and sun in moon's star. In fact, mars and jupiter are in nakshatra parivartana. Nimmi - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Saturday, April 12, 2003 7:58 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Nimmi, The period was Saturn -Mars-Sun. Saturn also makes one get connected with Insurance.Acturial science and dealing in probability and large number of data might have something to do with this. Saturn is lord of 3rd and Mars of 5th Sun of 9th. They all have sambamdha. Chandrashekhar. - Nimmi Ragavan vedic astrology Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:17 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Chandrashekhar, I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon sub period? Best regards, Nimmi - Chandrashekhar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Dear Narasimharaoji, I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to 8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented by a Planet and a House. The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present. I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned. I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge. I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope. I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. Namaste Chandrashekhar ji, Thank you for the puzzle and the answers. > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my > friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav > Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to > manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had > demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) > we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the > final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. > On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and > the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as > some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. > and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason > was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that > there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our > we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10. In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house shows setbacks too. After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in the setback. In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be related to engineering. BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your eldest child's eldest child? As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May 7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it. Thank you for the puzzle again! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 >>> My grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born Dear chandra shekhar ji, What is the mark of trishula indicates? Is there any spiritual connection? Is there any similarity between u and ur grnad son's chart? It is really interresting me much. Kumar vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>, > > ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>. > > Dear List members, > > I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could have happened then. > The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought to be tested. > However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only one who could do so, and he is right. > Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also attempted to unravel the puzzle. > I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of prediction. > > I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now about the events: > > I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems. > > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends (while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. > This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious. > > Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu- Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born. > If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am certain that I would be pardoned for that. > This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list. > In humility, > Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Dear Kumar, I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. Chandrashekhar. - kumar_gh_2000 vedic astrology Monday, April 14, 2003 12:35 PM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. >>> My grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was bornDear chandra shekhar ji,What is the mark of trishula indicates? Is there any spiritual connection? Is there any similarity between u and ur grnad son's chart? It is really interresting me much. Kumar --- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>,> > ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>.> > Dear List members,> > I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could have happened then.> The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought to be tested.> However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only one who could do so, and he is right.> Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also attempted to unravel the puzzle.> I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of prediction.> > I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now about the events:> > I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems.> > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.> This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious.> > Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born.> If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am certain that I would be pardoned for that.> This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list.> In humility,> Chandrashekhar.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Om Sri Gurave namah Dear Chandrasekhar ji Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra. Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. With best regards, Sanjay Rath H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Webpages: http://srath.com ---- Dear Kumar, I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. Chandrashekhar. __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Attachment: (image/gif) IMSTP.gif [not stored] Attachment: (Image/gif) BackGrnd.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Dear Sanjayji, Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned considerably. In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name. Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any. I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which you had promised you will post after others had posted about the puzzzle. With warm regards, Chandrashekhar. - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle. Om Sri Gurave namah Dear Chandrasekhar ji Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra. Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. With best regards, Sanjay Rath H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Webpages: http://srath.com ---- Dear Kumar, I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. Chandrashekhar. __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Attachment: (image/gif) IMSTP.gif [not stored] Attachment: (Image/gif) BackGrnd.gif [not stored] Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Sudarshan Son2.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Dear Guru Sanjay ji, Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore had. Is it blessing of lord shiva? Kumar vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Sanjayji, > Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned considerably. > In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name. > Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any. > I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which you had promised you will post after others had posted about the puzzzle. > With warm regards, > Chandrashekhar. > - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle. > > > > Om Sri Gurave namah > Dear Chandrasekhar ji > Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra. > > Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. > > With best regards, > Sanjay Rath > H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > Webpages: http://srath.com > ---- > > vedic astrology > Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. > > Dear Kumar, > I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. > About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. > Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. > Chandrashekhar. > > > > __ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 ~OM~ Dear Kumar Yes. This can be either in forehead, palm or the foot. If such a native worships Shiva with the jeeva beeja or sanjiva/sanjivani beeja then fruits come very quickly. Mrityunjaya mantra is most suited for them (Vasistha rishi, Rig Veda VII-59 last mantra). With best wishes, Sanjay Rath ------------------------ H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India +91-674-2436871; Webpages:http://srath.com http://.org ------------------ ---- Dear Guru Sanjay ji,Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore had. Is it blessing of lord shiva? Kumarvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Sanjayji,> Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned considerably.> In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name.> Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any.> I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which you had promised you will post after others had posted about the puzzzle.> With warm regards,> Chandrashekhar.> - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle.> > > > Om Sri Gurave namah > Dear Chandrasekhar ji> Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra.> > Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka.> > With best regards,> Sanjay Rath> H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> Webpages: http://srath.com> -------Original Message-------> > vedic astrology> Date: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM> To: vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.> > Dear Kumar,> I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.> About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius.> Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies.> Chandrashekhar.> > > > __> IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Attachment: (image/gif) IMSTP.gif [not stored] Attachment: (Image/gif) BackGrnd.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Dear Sanjay ji, Thank you very much for your explanation. Kumar vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <daivagyna@s...> wrote: > > > ~OM~ > Dear Kumar > Yes. This can be either in forehead, palm or the foot. If such a native > worships Shiva with the jeeva beeja or sanjiva/sanjivani beeja then fruits > come very quickly. Mrityunjaya mantra is most suited for them (Vasistha > rishi, Rig Veda VII-59 last mantra). > With best wishes, > Sanjay Rath > ------------------------ > H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > +91-674-2436871; > Webpages:http://srath.com http://.org > ------------------ > ---- > > vedic astrology > Saturday, April 19, 2003 06:53:51 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. > > Dear Guru Sanjay ji, > Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore > had. Is it blessing of lord shiva? > Kumar > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Sanjayji, > > Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that > though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in > summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been > sunburnt/tanned considerably. > > In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects > Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual > aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have > named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as > 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and > also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name. > > Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any. > > I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which > you had promised you will post after others had posted about the > puzzzle. > > With warm regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle. > > > > > > > > Om Sri Gurave namah > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji > > Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has > to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His > weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th > house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) > confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks > are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara > chakra. > > > > Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at > birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does > your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti > or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. > Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly > extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for > Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very > auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. > > > > With best regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > Webpages: http://srath.com > > ---- > > > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. > > > > Dear Kumar, > > I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The > reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for > Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. > > About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting > 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd > and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn > and Mars aspect Sagitarius. > > Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead > signifies. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > __ > > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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