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Dear List members,

I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could

have happened then.

The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in

derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not

respond when their own skills were sought to be tested.

However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected

Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji

gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone

has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart

and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only

one who could do so, and he is right.

Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also

attempted to unravel the puzzle.

I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit

one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used.

Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event

being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is

an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not

think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that

accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of

prediction.

 

I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I

have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now

about the events:

 

I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I

was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of

wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and

had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems.

 

In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends(while still

in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it

would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and

had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed

everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was

to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache

and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem

arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go

ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can

imagine what a setback it was.

This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was

in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and

Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious.

 

Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003.

Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and

Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house

aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time.

It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his

forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born.

If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am

certain that I would be pardoned for that.

This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha

and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace

of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of

the menbers of this list.

In humility,

Chandrashekhar.

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Thanks for the puzzle and its solution. Your summation of the various attempts

by members is very striking. The Science is Accurate, but the application can

be mistaken

 

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>,

ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>.

Dear List members,

I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could

have happened then.

The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in

derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not

respond when their own skills were sought to be tested.

However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected

Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji

gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone

has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart

and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only

one who could do so, and he is right.

Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also

attempted to unravel the puzzle.

I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit

one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used.

Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event

being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is

an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not

think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that

accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of

prediction.

 

I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I

have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now

about the events:

 

I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I

was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of

wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and

had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems.

 

In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends(while still

in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it

would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and

had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed

everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was

to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache

and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem

arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go

ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can

imagine what a setback it was.

This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was

in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and

Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious.

 

Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003.

Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and

Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house

aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time.

It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his

forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born.

If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am

certain that I would be pardoned for that.

This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha

and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace

of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of

the menbers of this list.

In humility,

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Dear Chandra Shekar Ji,

Thanks for enlightening us. But will you please

explain some questions by me>

> can imagine what a setback it was. This was

> Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my

> lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th

> was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and

> Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is

> obvious.

Here the dasa lord was Sat placed in 7th, Moon though

8th lord well placed in 11th and sun 9th lord in 3rd.

I think your A10 is in aries. I still do not get the

connection of set back in career. can you explain

this. (I did not look in to your D-10). I will ber

greatful if you can explain the timing wrf Dasa you

were running.

 

Thanks

Lakshman

 

 

 

 

 

Other event was that my grandson was born

> on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In

> Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and

> Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house

> with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi

> yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time.

> It might interest the members that my grandson had

> Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with

> that I had when I was born.If I have missed

> mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight

> and I am certain that I would be pardoned for

> that.This was also an attempt on my part, that even

> data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary

> dashas with gochar position used properly can, with

> the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate

> prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of

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Dear Laxman,

For Sagitarius ascendant, saturn is lord of 2nd and 3rd. Sun Lord of the 9th was

in 3rd in 2nd from natal Sun and Mars lord of 5th the other trinal lord in 6th

in 12th house from Natal Mars. Need I say more?

Chandrashekhar.

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Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:22 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle.

Dear Chandra Shekar Ji,Thanks for enlightening us. But will you pleaseexplain

some questions by me>> can imagine what a setback it was. This was>

Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my> lord of the 5th was in 6th

house and Sun Lord of 9th> was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and>

Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is> obvious. Here the dasa lord

was Sat placed in 7th, Moon though8th lord well placed in 11th and sun 9th lord

in 3rd.I think your A10 is in aries. I still do not get theconnection of set

back in career. can you explainthis. (I did not look in to your D-10). I will

bergreatful if you can explain the timing wrf Dasa youwere

running.ThanksLakshmanOther event was that my grandson was born> on 13th Nov.

2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In> Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects

9th and> Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house> with Mars in 10th

house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi> yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that

time.> It might interest the members that my grandson had> Mark of Trishula on

his forehead(Red) identical with> that I had when I was born.If I have missed>

mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight> and I am certain that I

would be pardoned for> that.This was also an attempt on my part, that even>

data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary> dashas with gochar position

used properly can, with> the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate>

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Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thank you for the puzzle and the answers.

 

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my

> friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav

> Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to

> manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had

> demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb)

> we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the

> final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day.

> On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and

> the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as

> some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt.

> and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason

> was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

> there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our

> we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

 

I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha

(TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of

physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10.

 

In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After

seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and

getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house

shows setbacks too.

 

After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already

mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In

D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why

Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna

with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work

towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon

can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had

a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in

the setback.

 

In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with

him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite

possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be

related to engineering.

 

BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP

and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your

eldest child's eldest child?

 

As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP

chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May

7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel

much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi

and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with

Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka

sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen

problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it.

 

Thank you for the puzzle again!

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Dear Narasimharaoji,

I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in

that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to

8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that

everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The

difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented

by a Planet and a House.

The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present.

I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided

to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the

period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is

right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned.

I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of

astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It

does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge.

I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the

Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope.

I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a

prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope

also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thank you for the puzzle and the answers.

 

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my

> friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav

> Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to

> manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had

> demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb)

> we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the

> final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day.

> On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and

> the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as

> some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt.

> and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason

> was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

> there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our

> we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

 

I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha

(TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of

physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10.

 

In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After

seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and

getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house

shows setbacks too.

 

After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already

mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In

D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why

Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna

with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work

towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon

can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had

a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in

the setback.

 

In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with

him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite

possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be

related to engineering.

 

BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP

and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your

eldest child's eldest child?

 

As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP

chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May

7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel

much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi

and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with

Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka

sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen

problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it.

 

Thank you for the puzzle again!

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of

dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th

ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon

sub period?

 

Best regards,

 

Nimmi

 

 

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Chandrashekhar

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Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Narasimharaoji,

I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in

that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to

8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that

everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The

difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented

by a Planet and a House.

The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present.

I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided

to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the

period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is

right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned.

I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of

astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It

does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge.

I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the

Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope.

I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a

prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope

also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thank you for the puzzle and the answers.

 

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my

> friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav

> Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to

> manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had

> demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb)

> we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the

> final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day.

> On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and

> the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as

> some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt.

> and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason

> was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

> there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our

> we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

 

I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha

(TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of

physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10.

 

In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After

seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and

getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house

shows setbacks too.

 

After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already

mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In

D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why

Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna

with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work

towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon

can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had

a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in

the setback.

 

In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with

him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite

possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be

related to engineering.

 

BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP

and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your

eldest child's eldest child?

 

As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP

chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May

7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel

much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi

and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with

Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka

sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen

problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it.

 

Thank you for the puzzle again!

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Dear madam,

Though the question is posted to Shri.Chandrasekharji, i thought i can also send

in my views . So far as analysis of professional front is concerned i believe

the A10 in the rasi chart is to be given due importance. Here in the said case

A 10 is placed in Taurus with A4. A 10 is subject to the aspect of Sun, Buda,

Venus, Guru & Moon. Guru & and Moon are also placed in HL, A8 & A3 and are

associated with Gulikha. We all know that the 10th lord Buda's association with

Sun the 9th lord so far as Dhanur lagna is concerned is a Rajayoga par

excellence. At the outset we can infer that the professional front is very

strong. As regards the kind/kinds of profession one should look at the

influence the A 10 is being subject to. Here we can notice that while the Maya

peeta A 10 is subject to aspects of atleast five planets the Satya peeta 10th

house is subject to the remaining 4 planets. As per JS Sani in Swamsa gives

expertise in all fields. i am inclined to believe and to extend this principle

when Sani is Atmakaraka too(karakamsa). Now to be specific to your question

/doubt relating to insurance - A 10 is subject to the aspect of Guru(jeevaha)

and Moon who are connected to A 8(Mrityu pada) from the sign of Libra whose

lord Venus(he also aspects the A 10) breathed life into dead persons through

Mrita Sanjeevani Mantra. i believe that every single point should be given due

weightage. A4 is associated with A 10 - it speaks about the influence of Mother

in career front. Taurus gives the hotel/agricultural activities,influence of

Taurus,venus and Moon speaks about the involvement in dairy field, Sun gives

the governmental touch, Moon the connection with water,buda gives the touch of

communication, the combination of Buda & venus in 2nd gives the touch of

Astrology, the same combination also speaks of touch of theatre/activities

connected to theatre, the parivarthana between buda & Sani gives the hint

relating to the business ventures, the association of sani, mars & rahu/buda,

mars, rahu(on account of parivarthana) gives the karmic touch of setbacks(one

should take into account the influence of Mandi/poison spread by others and

Gulikha/suicidal) and the resultant agony in business ventures(sani also rules

the third, also see the influence of A3 - initiatives).It is fascinating!

i request Shri Chandrasekharji to kindly excuse me for this intervention.

Astrologically yours,

p.s.ramanarayanan.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of

dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th

ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon

sub period?

 

Best regards,

 

Nimmi

 

 

-

Chandrashekhar

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Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Narasimharaoji,

I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in

that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to

8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that

everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The

difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented

by a Planet and a House.

The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present.

I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided

to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the

period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is

right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned.

I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of

astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It

does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge.

I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the

Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope.

I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a

prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope

also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thank you for the puzzle and the answers.

 

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my

> friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav

> Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to

> manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had

> demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb)

> we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the

> final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day.

> On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and

> the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as

> some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt.

> and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason

> was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

> there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our

> we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

 

I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha

(TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of

physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10.

 

In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After

seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and

getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house

shows setbacks too.

 

After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already

mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In

D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why

Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna

with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work

towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon

can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had

a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in

the setback.

 

In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with

him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite

possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be

related to engineering.

 

BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP

and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your

eldest child's eldest child?

 

As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP

chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May

7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel

much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi

and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with

Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka

sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen

problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it.

 

Thank you for the puzzle again!

 

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Dear Nimmi,

The period was Saturn -Mars-Sun. Saturn also makes one get connected with

Insurance.Acturial science and dealing in probability and large number of data

might have something to do with this. Saturn is lord of 3rd and Mars of 5th Sun

of 9th. They all have sambamdha.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Nimmi Ragavan

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Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:17 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of

dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th

ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon

sub period?

 

Best regards,

 

Nimmi

 

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Narasimharaoji,

I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in

that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to

8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that

everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The

difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented

by a Planet and a House.

The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present.

I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided

to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the

period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is

right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned.

I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of

astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It

does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge.

I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the

Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope.

I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a

prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope

also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thank you for the puzzle and the answers.

 

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my

> friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav

> Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to

> manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had

> demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb)

> we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the

> final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day.

> On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and

> the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as

> some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt.

> and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason

> was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

> there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our

> we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

 

I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha

(TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of

physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10.

 

In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After

seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and

getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house

shows setbacks too.

 

After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already

mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In

D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why

Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna

with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work

towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon

can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had

a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in

the setback.

 

In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with

him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite

possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be

related to engineering.

 

BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP

and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your

eldest child's eldest child?

 

As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP

chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May

7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel

much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi

and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with

Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka

sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen

problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it.

 

Thank you for the puzzle again!

 

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Dear Rama Narayanan,

I like the way you aproach analysis of planets and houses.If I may point out, in

my horoscope you will see that all planets are making sambamdham with others. No

body has commented on this.

Saturn forming trine with Jupiter and Moon and 3rd house which is his

mooltrikona is also to be seen when you find him associating with Mars, the

reason I was assesing losses arising out of Motor accidents, Fire and Road

transits would be clear.

Thanks for taking interest in my chart.

Chandrashekhar.

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Saturday, April 12, 2003 6:11 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear madam, Though the question

is posted to Shri.Chandrasekharji, i thought i can also send in my views . So

far as analysis of professional front is concerned i believe the A10 in the

rasi chart is to be given due importance. Here in the said case A 10 is placed

in Taurus with A4. A 10 is subject to the aspect of Sun, Buda, Venus, Guru &

Moon. Guru & and Moon are also placed in HL, A8 & A3 and are associated with

Gulikha. We all know that the 10th lord Buda's association with Sun the 9th

lord so far as Dhanur lagna is concerned is a Rajayoga par excellence. At the

outset we can infer that the professional front is very strong. As regards the

kind/kinds of profession one should look at the influence the A 10 is being

subject to. Here we can notice that while the Maya peeta A 10 is subject to

aspects of atleast five planets the Satya peeta 10th house is subject to the

remaining 4 planets. As per JS Sani in Swamsa gives expertise in all fields. i

am inclined to believe and to extend this principle when Sani is Atmakaraka

too(karakamsa). Now to be specific to your question /doubt relating to

insurance - A 10 is subject to the aspect of Guru(jeevaha) and Moon who are

connected to A 8(Mrityu pada) from the sign of Libra whose lord Venus(he also

aspects the A 10) breathed life into dead persons through Mrita Sanjeevani

Mantra. i believe that every single point should be given due weightage. A4 is

associated with A 10 - it speaks about the influence of Mother in career front.

Taurus gives the hotel/agricultural activities,influence of Taurus,venus and

Moon speaks about the involvement in dairy field, Sun gives the governmental

touch, Moon the connection with water,buda gives the touch of communication,

the combination of Buda & venus in 2nd gives the touch of Astrology, the same

combination also speaks of touch of theatre/activities connected to theatre,

the parivarthana between buda & Sani gives the hint relating to the business

ventures, the association of sani, mars & rahu/buda, mars, rahu(on account of

parivarthana) gives the karmic touch of setbacks(one should take into account

the influence of Mandi/poison spread by others and Gulikha/suicidal) and the

resultant agony in business ventures(sani also rules the third, also see the

influence of A3 - initiatives).It is fascinating! i request Shri

Chandrasekharji to kindly excuse me for this intervention. Astrologically

yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of

dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th

ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon

sub period?

 

Best regards,

 

Nimmi

 

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Narasimharaoji,

I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in

that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to

8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that

everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The

difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented

by a Planet and a House.

The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present.

I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided

to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the

period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is

right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned.

I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of

astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It

does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge.

I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the

Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope.

I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a

prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope

also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thank you for the puzzle and the answers.

 

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my

> friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav

> Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to

> manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had

> demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb)

> we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the

> final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day.

> On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and

> the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as

> some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt.

> and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason

> was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

> there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our

> we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

 

I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha

(TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of

physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10.

 

In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After

seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and

getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house

shows setbacks too.

 

After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already

mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In

D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why

Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna

with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work

towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon

can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had

a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in

the setback.

 

In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with

him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite

possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be

related to engineering.

 

BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP

and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your

eldest child's eldest child?

 

As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP

chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May

7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel

much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi

and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with

Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka

sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen

problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it.

 

Thank you for the puzzle again!

 

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Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

The exchange of saturn and mercury could imply that. I remember that strong

saturn in virgo gives proficiency in statistics. But to apply it to insurance,

I would have expected the influence of 8th ruler moon. In this case, the only

connection I can see is the aspect from Jupiter which is associated with the

8th ruler.

 

Unless I look at constellations, when saturn and mars are in jupiter's star and

sun in moon's star. In fact, mars and jupiter are in nakshatra parivartana.

 

Nimmi

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Saturday, April 12, 2003 7:58 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Nimmi,

The period was Saturn -Mars-Sun. Saturn also makes one get connected with

Insurance.Acturial science and dealing in probability and large number of data

might have something to do with this. Saturn is lord of 3rd and Mars of 5th Sun

of 9th. They all have sambamdha.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Nimmi Ragavan

vedic astrology

Saturday, April 12, 2003 2:17 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

I seem to remember that insurance is related to the 8th house, in the sense of

dealing with other peoples' property. Perhaps the gajakesari involving the 8th

ruler gave this, as it is in the 11th house of gains. Was it in jupiter or moon

sub period?

 

Best regards,

 

Nimmi

 

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 7:13 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Dear Narasimharaoji,

I agree that cessation of a venture in a way could be termed as death and in

that way be connected to 8th house. However when I said it was not related to

8th, I meant in the traditional sense.Yiou will notice, I have said that

everybody who tried the puzzle, in one way or other came near the answer.The

difference was in taking the right signification of many that are represented

by a Planet and a House.

The grand son is first son of my only Son. He has no other children at present.

I resigned my job on Feb.1974.I was immediately offered a beter Job,but decided

to start on my own. I became an Insurance Assesor and did quite well in the

period mentioned by you. The work involves a lot of touring , so travel is

right. I did not have problems during the time mentioned.

I had submitted the puzzle just to show, how sometimes even the best of

astrologers can go wrong, and this is always a part of predictive sciences. It

does not, necessarily, mean that the Astrologer lacks knowledge.

I also, in an indirect way, wanted to say that a lot also depends on the

Astrologer's own horoscope and position of Gochar planets in his own horoscope.

I did not mention this specifically as everybody has his own views on why a

prediction goes wrong. My personal opinion is that astrologer's own horoscope

also plays a part in a prediction coming right or otherwise.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, April 11, 2003 10:50 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

Thank you for the puzzle and the answers.

 

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my

> friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav

> Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to

> manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had

> demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb)

> we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the

> final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day.

> On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and

> the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as

> some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt.

> and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason

> was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

> there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our

> we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

 

I mentioned that Moon's annual dasa was running in the annual Tithi Pravesha

(TP) chart. I talked about an "8th house result", but went in the direction of

physical problems and erred. I didn't even look at D-10.

 

In your reply, you said the result was not related to the 8th house. After

seeing your answer, I am not sure if I agree. Working hard for some time and

getting disappointed at the end is definitely an 8th house thing. The 8th house

shows setbacks too.

 

After seeing the answer, I looked at D-10 of the annual TP chart. I've already

mentioned that Moon is the 8th lord in A8 showing setbacks in rasi chart. In

D-10, he is the lord of A3 (shows ventures and enterprise - that may be why

Narayan made the very good guess that you started a company). He is in lagna

with yogakaraka Venus and Rahu. Planets in lagna give a new beginning or work

towards it. Being the lord of A3 (that too in the 7th house of business!), Moon

can give efforts regarding a venture. With Moon being with Rahu, the venture had

a foreign association. I am afraid the rasi chart situation of Moon resulted in

the setback.

 

In general, in your natal D-10, Rahu is in the 7th house in D-10 and A3 is with

him. Business related to machines or business with foreign association is quite

possible. Moreover, Rahu is in a dasamsa ruled by Agni and so this can be

related to engineering.

 

BTW, the second puzzle was a bit tougher to reconcile (I am using just annual TP

and nothing else). Was this grandson born to your eldest child? Was it your

eldest child's eldest child?

 

As you said you started business a year later, I took a look at the annual TP

chart of 1975-76. By any chance, did the venture take off during April 11-May

7, 1975 after a lot of hard work in the previous month or two? Did you travel

much in May 7-July 2, 1975 (Mercury's annual dasa, with Mercury in 3rd in rasi

and D-4)? Was there some problem/issue in Oct 4-Nov 13, 1975 (Rahu dasa, with

Rahu in 12th from lagna and 8th from AL in rasi and afflicting AL in badhaka

sthana in D-10)? In that period, I would've guessed some unforeseen

problems/hassles at work or a small controversy and some worry regarding it.

 

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>>> My grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical

with that I had when I was born

 

Dear chandra shekhar ji,

What is the mark of trishula indicates? Is there any spiritual

connection? Is there any similarity between u and ur grnad son's

chart? It is really interresting me much.

 

Kumar

 

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

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> ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>,

>

> ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me

Vypgt>.

>

> Dear List members,

>

> I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events

that could have happened then.

> The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were

indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those

worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought to be

tested.

> However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and

respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on

the puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would

give his opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way

he could notice some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable

person of India. I think after my father, he is the only one who

could do so, and he is right.

> Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and

others also attempted to unravel the puzzle.

> I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near

or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic

astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they

only attributed a later event being predicted as having happened

earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When

the results do not exactly match the event one need not think that

the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that

accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the

time of prediction.

>

> I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the

puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain

you will pardon me.Now about the events:

>

> I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined

in 1965. I was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting

scheme for deepening of wells. Over time I became in charge of

central store of Tractor department and had to get spares

manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems.

>

> In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends

(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company

Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts

of their Tractors in India and had demonstrated my ability to do so.

On day one(25th Feb) we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy

the final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. On

that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and the Consul

informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem arose

between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not

to go ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial

here. Only that there was some deal on railway wagons due to which

our we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.

> This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord

of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The

connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam

locomotives) is obvious.

>

> Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-

Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th

and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in

10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th

house at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson

had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had

when I was born.

> If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight

and I am certain that I would be pardoned for that.

> This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal

Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used

properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate

prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list.

> In humility,

> Chandrashekhar.

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Dear Kumar,

I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to

show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.

About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th ,

whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other

similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius.

Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies.

Chandrashekhar.

 

-

kumar_gh_2000

vedic astrology

Monday, April 14, 2003 12:35 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

>>> My grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I

had when I was bornDear chandra shekhar ji,What is the mark of trishula

indicates? Is there any spiritual connection? Is there any similarity between u

and ur grnad son's chart? It is really interresting me much.

Kumar --- In

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:>

ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>,> >

ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>.> > Dear

List members,> > I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for

events that could have happened then.> The chart was basically posted as a

challenge to those who were indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as

was expected those worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought

to be tested.> However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members

and respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the

puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his

opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice

some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable person of India. I think

after my father, he is the only one who could do so, and he is right.> Ajoy,

Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also attempted

to unravel the puzzle.> I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other

came near or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic

astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they only

attributed a later event being predicted as having happened earlier. This

proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When the results do not

exactly match the event one need not think that the science is wrong, merely

that the application was not that accurate or that the Astrologer's intution

was not at peak at the time of prediction.> > I am going to give the results

below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through

oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now about the events:> > I was

serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I was

initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of

wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and

had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems.> >

In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends(while still

in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it

would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and

had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed

everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was

to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache

and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem

arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go

ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that

there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can

imagine what a setback it was.> This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar

period. Mars my lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd

house. The connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam

locomotives) is obvious.> > Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th

Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and

aspects 9th and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars

in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house

at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of

Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born.> If I

have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am certain

that I would be pardoned for that.> This was also an attempt on my part, that

even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar

position used properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly

accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list.> In

humility,> Chandrashekhar.Archives:

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Dear Chandrasekhar ji

Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly

connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its

mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect

of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes

the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara

chakra.

 

Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only

graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi

drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If

possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully.

This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the

sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very

auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka.

 

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

----

 

 

Dear Kumar,

I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to

show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.

About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th ,

whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other

similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius.

Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies.

Chandrashekhar.

 

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Dear Sanjayji,

Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that though I was

veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in summer) my face and

other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned considerably.

In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects Sagitarius and

Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am enclosing his

chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as

inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed

it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's

name.

Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any.

I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which you had

promised you will post after others had posted about the puzzzle.

With warm regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle.

 

Om Sri Gurave namah

Dear Chandrasekhar ji

Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly

connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its

mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect

of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes

the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara

chakra.

 

Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only

graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi

drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If

possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully.

This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the

sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very

auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka.

 

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

----

 

 

Dear Kumar,

I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to

show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.

About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th ,

whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other

similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius.

Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies.

Chandrashekhar.

 

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Dear Guru Sanjay ji,

Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore

had. Is it blessing of lord shiva?

Kumar

 

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<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Sanjayji,

> Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that

though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in

summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been

sunburnt/tanned considerably.

> In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects

Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual

aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have

named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as

11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and

also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name.

> Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any.

> I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which

you had promised you will post after others had posted about the

puzzzle.

> With warm regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> Sanjay Rath

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle.

>

>

>

> Om Sri Gurave namah

> Dear Chandrasekhar ji

> Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has

to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His

weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th

house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru)

confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks

are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara

chakra.

>

> Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at

birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does

your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti

or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart.

Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly

extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for

Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very

auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka.

>

> With best regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> Webpages: http://srath.com

> ----

>

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

>

> Dear Kumar,

> I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The

reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for

Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.

> About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting

3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd

and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn

and Mars aspect Sagitarius.

> Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead

signifies.

> Chandrashekhar.

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Dear Kumar

Yes. This can be either in forehead, palm or the foot. If such a native worships

Shiva with the jeeva beeja or sanjiva/sanjivani beeja then fruits come very

quickly. Mrityunjaya mantra is most suited for them (Vasistha rishi, Rig Veda

VII-59 last mantra).

With best wishes,

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Dear Guru Sanjay ji,Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on

the fore had. Is it blessing of lord shiva?

Kumarvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel>

wrote:> Dear Sanjayji,> Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to

the fact that though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees +

in summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned

considerably.> In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects

Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am

enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as

Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal

Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted

it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name.> Would you let me know the signification of

this mark, if any.> I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my

chart, which you had promised you will post after others had posted about the

puzzzle.> With warm regards,> Chandrashekhar.> - >

Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Wednesday,

April 16, 2003 12:57 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle.> > > >

Om Sri Gurave namah > Dear Chandrasekhar ji> Where is Mars in

the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house

of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You

have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru)

confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on

the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra.> > Next

point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha

drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of

Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible

add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has

been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as

for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I

think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka.> > With best

regards,> Sanjay Rath> H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014,

India> Webpages: http://srath.com> -------Original

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puzzle.> > Dear Kumar,> I do not know whether the mark

signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is

relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.> About my Grand

son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have

Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities

too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius.> Gurus might

know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies.>

Chandrashekhar.> > > >

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Dear Sanjay ji,

Thank you very much for your explanation.

Kumar

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> ~OM~

> Dear Kumar

> Yes. This can be either in forehead, palm or the foot. If such a

native

> worships Shiva with the jeeva beeja or sanjiva/sanjivani beeja then

fruits

> come very quickly. Mrityunjaya mantra is most suited for them

(Vasistha

> rishi, Rig Veda VII-59 last mantra).

> With best wishes,

> Sanjay Rath

> ------------------------

> H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> +91-674-2436871;

> Webpages:http://srath.com http://.org

> ------------------

> ----

>

> vedic astrology

> Saturday, April 19, 2003 06:53:51 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

>

> Dear Guru Sanjay ji,

> Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore

> had. Is it blessing of lord shiva?

> Kumar

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Sanjayji,

> > Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact

that

> though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees +

in

> summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been

> sunburnt/tanned considerably.

> > In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects

> Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual

> aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have

> named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as

> 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and

> also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name.

> > Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any.

> > I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart,

which

> you had promised you will post after others had posted about the

> puzzzle.

> > With warm regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > Sanjay Rath

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle.

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Sri Gurave namah

> > Dear Chandrasekhar ji

> > Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has

> to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for

His

> weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th

> house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru)

> confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks

> are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the

Nara

> chakra.

> >

> > Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at

> birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does

> your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha

drishti

> or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart.

> Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been

highly

> extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as

for

> Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very

> auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka.

> >

> > With best regards,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> > Webpages: http://srath.com

> > ----

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.

> >

> > Dear Kumar,

> > I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The

> reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for

> Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.

> > About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th

aspecting

> 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd

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