Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Dear Sai Brothers and Sisters: I write this because it pains me so much to discover that plastic plates were used at the Buddha Purnima celebration, and, then they were discarded (updates from Sister Anita). What are we thinking of? Here we say how much we love Swami, but, on the other hand, we eat and then littered his garden with disposables plastic. Oh, how we go against our Beloved Swami's teachings of "cleanliness" within and without!!! Brothers and Sisters, if we truly love and respect our Beloved Bhagavan, you must from this day onwards, be a role model to your family, friends, office, etc..., and NEVER use plastics and discard them again. Please help to save our environment which MOTHER NATURE so kindly provides us. No more adding toxic materials to our landfill. With Sai Love and Blessings Always, Joan Morgan Calgary, Canada JAI SAI RAM! _________________________ This forum is a personal work and not affiliated to the official Sai Organisation. To post a message, write to: saibabanews To , send an email to: saibabanews- The archives can be found at: Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 "RoSem@riE D@iSy" <rosemarie_54 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Sun May 14, 2006 10:15pm RE: [saibabanews] Help Swami - Save the Environment! Sai Ram Joan Good job Joan, thank you for instilling this awareness in me too, we take so much for granted. The few of us must play our part in educating the rest. I had just returned from kodai and in one of the the discourses Swami said that we all love Him which is useless if we do not follow HIS TEACHINGS. My role is to educate the followers to abstain from non vegn food. Just yesterday I informed the Seva co ordinator here in Perth [we are having a senior citizens morning this weekend] that the food that is provided must be totally vegn even without eggs [following Swami's command to all in HIS discourse on the 23th July 2002] and she said that the ladies have decided that its alright to have eggs in their cakes. She just took it so lightly, like you it saddens me to think that Swamis command is not taken seriously. How can we be good role models when we cant even practice simple basic tenets of Swami's. We each have a role to play and must not be afraid to speak up, but whatever we do we must do it in a loving manner. I've decided to pursue this matter with the co-ordinators concerned. Keep up the good work. Take care and swami Bless Rosemarie ---------- Meenakshi Chintapalli <mkchintapalli > Sun May 14, 2006 10:22pm Re: [saibabanews] Help Swami - Save the Environment! Sai Ram Sai Brothers and Sai Sisters, That is why Swami is always looking for one who at their Individual level FOLLOWS Swami's teachings. I bought 100 corelle and china plates, stainless steel forks and spoons to protect mother earth to be used by the Sai Center. I was always prevented from using them, as we had to set in motion self cleaning and drying after the satsangs and dinners. I relaized that it is enough if I do not use the disposables at home and at work. M.C ---------- kumar kumar <vijaykumar_velidi > Sun May 14, 2006 10:59pm Re: [saibabanews] Help Swami - Save the Environment! sai ram, many thanks for your thought provoking message. jai sai ram, vijay saibabanews, jmorgan wrote: > > Dear Sai Brothers and Sisters: > > I write this because it pains me so much to discover that plastic > plates were used at the Buddha Purnima celebration, and, then they > were discarded (updates from Sister Anita). ..... _________________________ This forum is a personal work and not affiliated to the official Sai Organisation. To post a message, write to: saibabanews To , send an email to: saibabanews- The archives can be found at: Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Sai Ram, Rosemarie, and everyone: I am quite new to this list (the last week), so please excuse me butting in! I am totally in accord with the issue on taking care of the environment, and disposing properly of plastics etc. should be quite an easy thing to achieve. Here in London most councils have made the facility very easy, though as plastics are not always collected - we have to take them to the collection point - many people still do not try to re-cycle. But may I make a kindly-meant comment on one issue - Sai's "commandments". As far as I am aware, Sai does not issue "commandments" but advices. In the case of that particular discourse of 23rd July, 2002, he said before the comment on meat and eggs: "Those who wish to attain divinity should never touch impurity." It is a matter of choice (even ability), not commandment, as I see it, though it is highly desirable that we do as he prescribes, "to attain divinity". I certainly have not eaten meat for several years, except occasional fish - and eggs. And, insha'allah, one day I might be able to give up those items also. With love, John At 09:45 15/05/2006, saibabanews_webmaster wrote: >"RoSem@riE D@iSy" <rosemarie_54 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> >Sun May 14, 2006 10:15pm >RE: [saibabanews] Help Swami - Save the Environment! > >Sai Ram Joan >Good job Joan, thank you for instilling this awareness in me too, we >take so much for granted. ..... _________________________ This forum is a personal work and not affiliated to the official Sai Organisation. To post a message, write to: saibabanews To , send an email to: saibabanews- The archives can be found at: Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters, THis is in reference to the point of eating Non veg or Vegetarian food. Sai Baba Says God equals Man minus EGO. He does not say God equals man minus Non-vegetarian Or God equals man plus Vegetarian. In the BOOK OF LIFE written by GOD himself through a close friend ( DR Johsua David Stone) of Sai Baba,Gods says that we can eat what we are comfortable with.But we should not eat NEGATIVE EGO. IT IS NOT WHAT GOES INSIDE THE MOUTH , BUT WHAT COMES OUT OF THE MOUTH WHICH IS IMPORTANT. We should have purity in thought, speech and action.God does not see what you eat. He only looks at the purity in your heart. Hope it is helpful. SAI RAM Much love Vetri www.iamuchicago.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 SAIRAM This is in reference to the point of eating Non veg or Veg Food. We believe the saying of swami that SATHYA , DHARMA , SHANTHI , PREMA.....existance in every individual In this context DHARMA : THE STANDARDS OF THE PARTICULAR BEING PREMA : LOVE TOWARDS EVERY BEING My Application of Dharma in this context meant that every being is in nature to follow some standards of living....for EX :LION has some standards which are different with Ant...or Human beings i.e LION enriched with special form of teeth to basically eat flesh,whereas Human beings made with soft teeth to have soft food and personaly feel burning the flesh and making comfertable to teeth and having the flesh is against the nature of the standards of human beings. And the PREMA the love with all beings- is an essantial quality to be recognized which is within us We also know the significance of Chanting BRAHMARPANAM which protects us from committing a sin if any by the kind of food we take in to protect the body given to us.(Irrespective of NON-VEG or VEG). I dint mean to have the NON-VEG and chant BRAHMARPANAM and that is OK. But I meant even its VEG we need to chant BRAHMARPANAM I am sorry if my feelings hurt any individual....... SAIRAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Sai Ram brothers and sisters, I entirely agree with has been stated by brother Nagaraju and brother Busawaon seetal on this subject in their respective mails. I request the brother who said that the Rishis were eating non-veg. may be kind enough to either withdraw his statement or else substantiate his statement with Scriptural authority. Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters With humble pranaams at The Lotus Feet of our Dearest and Sweetest Lord I offer these messages and Thoughts. I have been reading with mazement the emotional discussions about Vegeterianism and Non Vegeterianism. Please take the comments in the Highest spiritual sense. I am a 100% vegeterian by my personal choice since early childhood. I raised my 2 girls born and brought up in USA as 100 % vegeterians. When my younger child asked me why I am a veg. I told her that an animal sacrificed with feelings that would be slaughtered for my taste buds would make it objectionable. That was against my principle. She never touched the chicken that was offered at her school lunches. She felt that the chicken was jumping at her. Let us go through certain medical facts 1.Vegeterian meal that is well balanced is free of Cholesterol & High Carbon that is a carcinogen, has High fiber content that prevents Gut problems, constipation and diverticulitis and colon cancer. 2. It is filled with minerals and vitamins that are important for all the enzyme properties and tissue metabolism 3. Vegeterian meals have high load of Naturally available anti oxidants that enhance the immunity and stimulate the immune systems 4. Prevents some neurolpgical problems like Migraine headaches. Reality: Food is a culture and tradition that are the result of human experience. Culture makes people stick together in their food habits. The change requires a complete faith in vegeterainism as the ultimate of Spirituality in practicing non violence and also cognize the health benefits. This requires a complete sensory control If the person prefers otherwise, we can not enforce our view point upon them What was the ancient Tradiition? Manu Smriti describes the habit of serving a Big Bull or Big Goat meat as a delicacy of treating a visitor to the house . It was described as the etiquette of a Grihasta. "Mahaakshaami, Mahaajamaa, Vaa Nirvapanthi GrihaNeedhanaha" In Ramaayana there was a description of 2 demons, Ilvala and Vaataapi who decided to kill all the brahmins. It was a tradition for them to invite brahmins to their house. Ilvala would cook his brother Vataapi and serve him. Brahmin who ate the meat was out of luck. VAtaapi used to tear the stomach and exit out and kill the Brahmin. Sage Agastya was approached by the Brahmins to do something about it. He went for the lunch that day. He was served Vataapi and sage said " " Jeernam, Jeernam, Vaataapiu Jeernam". Vataapi was digested and could not kill Agastya. This story is told time and again to children and is in the kid's story books some where. Mothers to this day give food to the children, when they are very young, and repeat the words" Jeernam, Jeernam, Vataapi Jeernam". The above is a tradition. North Indian Brahnmins eat meat and sea food. Bengali's eat meat and sea food. Again this meat eating should be curbed by making an educated decision than based on whether Swami said or not. Budha and Mahavir Jain were born to curb this senseless sacrifice of the animals to feast ourselves and to preach "Ahimsa Paramo Dharmaha" What Swami is teaching us all is to transform our hearts, reflect on our habits and then make an educated decision. We need a Transformation in our hearts to do what Swami is teaching us to do. Swami still has been conferring his grace and blessings on people who eat Beef, Pork etcetera so that they can transform at the Heart and give up unwanted habits. Vegeterianism became a culture in 6th century BC and is a New Health Trend I may be forgiven for my limited little knowledge on the subject and I seek forgiveness if this hurts some personal feelings. Again please reflect on these with the highest spiritual seeking. Meena Chintapalli G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote: Sai Ram brothers and sisters, I entirely agree with has been stated by brother Nagaraju and brother Busawaon seetal on this subject in their respective mails. I request the brother who said that the Rishis were eating non-veg. may be kind enough to either withdraw his statement or else substantiate his statement with Scriptural authority. Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Sai Ram meenakshi Chintapalli I admire and appriciate your deep thought and study of vegetarianism. I was born and brought up in a very strict vegetarian family. I grew up in oblivian and thought that that was the only way of life. later in my life I realized that almost 90% of humanity are nonvegetarians. I encountered a lot of very nice and principled people but it always came as a shock to me that they ate meat. The strict adherence to vegetarianism at Prashanti Nilayam is definitely the pure abode of the Lord and that answers all our queries about vegetarianism. Thank you for your scientific explanation of the benefits of vegetarianism. Ever at His Lotus Feet Saraswathy Meenakshi Chintapalli <mkchintapalli > saibabanews saibabanews [saibabanews] Re: Help Swami - Save the Environment! Mon, 22 May 2006 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) _________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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