Riddle of aspects of Sat Jup Mars

August 12, 2003

Respected Gurus,

It was very illuminating to read about the real reasons for the special aspects

of Sani,Mars and Jupiter.As a beginer I would like to know if there is any

reason for the absence of any such special aspects for Mercury and Venus?They

also have their special roles in the scheme of things.Is there any astronomical

connection too?It is interesting that only the outer planets have such special

aspects.

The reasons for the special aspects for the Nodes are also not touched upon.Hope

the Gurus will be patient with my confusion and try to clear it.

Regards

Kaimal

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Chandrashekhar Sharma

vedic astrology

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:32 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Riddle of aspects of Sat Jup Mars

Dear Amolmandar,

The reason confusion arises is because we try to equate Dharma with religion as

in proselytising religions, as against Dharma signifying Duty of the Hindu

Dharma.

It is rightly said that, in Kaliyuga, Maya will cover the Satya. Once we look

beyond Maya rest becomes crystal clear.

Chandrashekhar.

amolmandar [amolmandar ]Sent:

Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:23 PMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] Re: Riddle of aspects of Sat Jup MarsRespected

Chandrashekharji NamasteYou really make the things pretty simple by getting to

basics of the astrology. Very amazing. I thought that Ju/MA/Sa have dual aspect

to nurture their prime duty and uphold Dharma. As these are the only planets

that can uphold dharma. Sun/Moon/Me/Ve have been casted to perform anti-dharma

activity. Sun to give progeny before marriage,Chandra to take away Guru's wife,

Shukra as priest of Rakshasas and Budha as illegal progeny. So it becomes duty

of only these three planets to protect Dharma. That is why I thought these have

been given dual aspect. Ju has 5th and 9th aspect. 5th aspect is to protect its

basic duty. That is VanshaVrudhi(to avoid varnaSankar) indicated by 5th house

and since 9th house is house of Dharma it is aspected priest.The MA has 4th and

8th aspect. 4th aspect to protect its prime duty. That is land protection

indicated by 4th house. He is as well Senapati or Police so he has to control

the loss of Dharma. Hence he aspects 8th house 12th to Dharma house. The

chaotic situation that can arise because of loss of Dharma must be controled by

Police hence 8th house aspect. I never thought more simple asnwer as aspect on

Aayusha-Bhava!The Sa has 3rd and 10th dristi these are Marak-sthanas of dharma.

Shani is as well known as Dharmaraj. So to protect Dharma it has 3rd and 10th

aspect. The Parakrama and Karma angle is more convincing.After all many say

complex problems have simple solutuions. Thanks.Thanks a lot for your Time and

Space.AmolMAndarvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:> Dear learned members,> Many students have asked on the

answer to puzzle posed by Sanjayji on his> website regarding why Jupiter saturn

and mars aspect by 5/9,3/10 and 4/8> aspects in addition to the 7th house aspect

as with other planets.Since till> now nobody haas answered this I will answer

this.The reason for delay was> that,I waited for those more learned than me to

respond. The answer to what> Sanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and

rooted in basic concepts of> Astrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the

answer is obvious.> Jupiter is the Minister of the King so he has to watch over

good education> being imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect

the Dharma of> the King and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens).

So he aspects> 5th house the house of Progenyand education( more precisely

knowledge) and> 9th house denoting Dharma.> Saturn is described as Bhritya

(Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and Coborns and> 10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the

duty of a servant to protect the Kingdom> by his parakrama(Valour).In order to

perfom his duties Saturn aspects 3rd> and 10th house.> Mars is the General of

Army his duty is to protect Lands,look after the> welfare/happiness(Sukha) and

Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land and> Happiness or welfare) and 8th

(Ayush Bhava) in order to protect them.> Confusion can arise as routinely 8th

house is called Mrityu sthana(that> result is there when ayush sthana is

afflicted and obviously so) but> remember it is 2nd that is mrityu and

therefore 2nd lord is called Marakesh.> All planets aspect the 7th represented

by Spouse ( Associates too) as it is> everybody's prime duty.> I trust this

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August 13, 2003

Dear Chandrashekharji,

Thanks so much for answering this, I presume many others had asked too. It

really makes sense now, u make it sound very simple some additional queries

which might be stupid or due to limited knowledge on basics so pls bear.

1. If Saturn stands for servants and I think service too, shouldnt Saturn be

looking at the 6th house also.

2. Why doesnt any planet have the 2nd and 6th,11th aspect.

3. Also, how about the aspects of Rahu 5,7,9 - how can this be seen logically-

some astrologers also use 5,7,9,12th aspect for Rahu

4. Why doesnt Moon have an additional aspect, cant it have a second aspect or

say 4th aspect as it standing for mom.

5. Also, can u pls expand on the 7th aspect of every planet, u mean one looks

straight at the person standing in front.

Maybe these questions are stupid but i am just trying to think.

Thanks for ur patience and time.

THe outer planets have more aspects - is it since it is bigger, more

energy/attraction power ( maybe gravitational power) and has an overview of

things

Best wishes

Sunil John

Dear learned members,Many students have asked on the answer to puzzle posed by

Sanjayji on hiswebsite regarding why Jupiter saturn and mars aspect by 5/9,3/10

and 4/8aspects in addition to the 7th house aspect as with other planets.Since

tillnow nobody haas answered this I will answer this.The reason for delay

wasthat,I waited for those more learned than me to respond. The answer to

whatSanjayji asked is pretty straightforward and rooted in basic concepts

ofAstrology. Look at planetary cabinet and the answer is obvious.Jupiter is the

Minister of the King so he has to watch over good educationbeing

imparted(Specially to Rajputras or princes) and protect the Dharma ofthe King

and kingdom (Royal duties unto Kingdom and citizens). So he aspects5th house

the house of Progenyand education( more precisely knowledge) and9th house

denoting Dharma.Saturn is described as Bhritya (Servant) 3rd is Parakrama and

Coborns and10th is Rajya and Karma. It is the duty of a servant to protect the

Kingdomby his parakrama(Valour).In order to perfom his duties Saturn aspects

3rdand 10th house.Mars is the General of Army his duty is to protect Lands,look

after thewelfare/happiness(Sukha) and Life of the King so he aspects 4th(Land

andHappiness or welfare) and 8th (Ayush Bhava) in order to protect

them.Confusion can arise as routinely 8th house is called Mrityu

sthana(thatresult is there when ayush sthana is afflicted and obviously so)

butremember it is 2nd that is mrityu and therefore 2nd lord is called

Marakesh.All planets aspect the 7th represented by Spouse ( Associates too) as

it iseverybody's prime duty.I trust this will help.Chandrashekhar.

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August 13, 2003

Dear Sunil,

You will observe that Rahu and Ketu find no place in the planetary cabinet.Again

if we look at the classics carefully then Eka Pada, Dwipada etc drishties are

mentioned but these are not full strength drishties(described at Ch 26 shloka

2-3). All planets do influence all the houses of the Natal and by extention

varga charts.

What Sanjayji was talking about was full aspects specifically mentioned for Jup.

Sat. and Mar. in the shloka which(you may note) mentions aspects of 7

planets.Shloka 4 ch 26 mentions the special aspects of Jupiter, Saturn and

Mars.About aspect on 6th house Saturn is not Vaidya, but a servant(Bhritya)

so no aspect on 6th house( you will reember that 6th house significance

includes deceases,maternal relatives and enemies).

You must have read my opinion(personal) on aspects of Rahu. Different opinions

are held by the sages on this factor. I prefer not to treat them having aspect

as they are not planets but nodal points.It is also interesting to note that

the special aspects attributed to Rahu are not mentioned in BPHS Chapter 26

which deals with planetary aspects.Of course this is my personal opinion.

Moon is royal planet, if you observe Royalty, or for that matter those in

oposition of authority, you will find that they expect others to do the work,

prefering to wield power than exert themselves.

All planets aspect 7th as this is the 7th bhava representing spouse ( also

partners and associates at work) and everybody including the King has a duty to

protect them so all planets aspect the 7th with full strength aspect.

While the theory of outer planets having a better overview is attractive, there

are many other outer planets which are not give any aspects. Lest one thinks

the ancients did not know of their existence, let me put on record that the

fact of there being other Surya mandals is recorded in many ancient

astronomical works and scriptures. Again if we accept the theory then Saturn

should have more aspects than either Mars or Jupiter, this is not the case.

The fact of the matter is that the Sages with their supernatural power of

observation and analysis (also called divine knowlede) understood the way

planets' position affects one's life and to make it easy to understand for

lesser mortals presented in a manner that one can understand the principles

underlying Vedic Astrology. It is rightly said "Yatpinde tatbramhande" meaning

body represents the universe.

Hope this helps,

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John [suniljohn (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk]Sent:

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