Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I have Saturn in Aries 10th house debilitated. Does it mean it gets neechabhanga. I also have Venus in Libra 4th house. How will Saturn dasa be for me. Regards chakrooVisti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote: |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Anna, Comments below.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Monday, August 04, 2003 12:42 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Neecha Bhanga Yoga Dear Visti, Thanks for this summary. It seems that more than one of four f. has to be present in order for NB to occur. Visti: One is enough. If it's only one, as Ramesh asked, what would happen to the planet canceling debilitation of certain planet- will it still be able to protect it's significance, or will it lose some power by cancelling deb. Can it preform both functions? Visti: Its more like, letting the other planet/person jump onto the band wagon. The strong planet doesn't loose much - but abit sometimes. When planets are in parivartana, affairs of the houses where mutual exchange occurs are connected. Assume we have Li Lagna with Sun in Lagna. lagnesh is in 11th house, venus- sun is in debility and Venus poorly placed. However, due to parivartana they both gain strengt- would you explain the results of their mutual functional exhange- Visti: Sun in Lagna and debilitated is immedietely Neecha Banga. Any graha in kendra will get neecha banga if its also debilitated. See we will always make the best out of whatever is in the Kendra, as these are the pillars of our life. Even if my home is down right rotten, i will be sure to make the best out of it if i wanto sleep. Hence the basis of the 4th house giving neecha banga. In this case Venus also acts as Badhakesh instead of Sun. I have that in my D2 chart- since I am Venus antar, followed by Sun's antar, I made a conclussion that both subs should be food gor finacial affairs. Visti: Parivritti Dwaya Hora is not for finances - its for family. In which cases planets do each other's job? Visti: Parivartana Yoga. Thanks, Anna Thanks, Annargangaramani <rgangaramani > wrote: Dear Visti,It was nice of you to post one of Sanjayji's mail on the subject. Is it enough if one of the 4 conditions is met?RegardsRamesh--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> ----- Original Message ----- > Sanjay Rath > > Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:29 PM> RE: > > > Om Gurave namah> Dear Chandrasekhar & Anu,> Neechabhanga occurs when the following conditions attain:> > 1. The lord of the sign of exaltation of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. For example, if Mercury is debilitaed in Pisces, the Mercury itself which is the lord of Virgo, the sign of its exaltation, should be in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. Thus, Mercury attains neechabhanga if eithe lagna or chandra is in any of the dual signs. It is for this purpose you find that dual signs give good communication abilities and produce many writes etc. Another example: If Saturn is debilitaed in Aries, then if Venus, the lord of Libra its sign of exaltation is in a kendra to the Lagna or Moon, Saturn gets neecha bhanga or cancellation of debility.> > 2. The lord of the sign of debility of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. This is the concept of the dispositor of the planet, and if the dispositor of a debilitated planet is in a Kendra to Lagna or Moon, then neecha bhanga occurs. This is also an important part of the Kalpa Druma Yoga where the dispositor of the strong lagna lord is required to be in a kendra to lagna. In such a case, when the naive approaches someone for help, when in trouble or in debility, help is sure to come.> > 3. The debilitated planet occupies its exaltation sign in the Navamsa chart. Every sign has nine Navamsa, Saturn is debilitated in Aries and the seventh Navamsa is that of Libra, its exaltation sign. Thus, if Saturn were to be between 20-23.20 degrees in Aries, neechabhanga is automatic. This implies that the native has done some very good dharmic karma in the past birth bring ing forth the blesings of Bhagavan and hence his debilitated condition or troubles are forgiven and he gets relief.> > 4. The sign where the planet is in debility is conjoined another planet which gets exalted in that sign. It pays to have powerful friends and associates and a planet in debility, if conjoined another planet in exaltation leads to a situation where the troubled soul meets another who is exalted and powerful or the person who is best suited to help him out. Sheer luck you may call those situations or just coincidence is what many people say. In one case, a businessman was about to be kicked out of all his businesses and as he waited at the airport, he had the acquaintance of the chairman of a bank. They discussed and then the businessman revealed his problem. The Chairman cancelled his flight and went back to office the next day and gave him a loan. The businessman went on to purchase controlling shares and grow into a big business house.> > Such Rajyoga do not occur with every neechabhanga, and at least a few of the factors cited above have to occur. further, all planets do not get neechabhanga by all the four methods. As a study, examine the debility of each planet and see the peculiar situations that cause its exaltations and the lessons they hold.> > Best Wishes> Sanjay Rath> > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]> Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:54 AM> To: > Re: > > > Dear Anu,> Try to understand Neechabhanga Raja Yoga.This is said to have been caused when:> 1)The lord of house in which the debilitated planet attains Exaltation is in Quadrant or trine from Moon or Adcendant.> 2) Another interpretation of the same shloka interpretes "Taducchanath" as that planet which attains exaltation in debiliation sign occupied by the Neecha planet.> However this would mean that not all planets could attain Neechabhang and to my Logic the first interpretation appears to be correct.> In the example given by you , you prbably think that aspect of debilitated planet on the planet attaining exaltation causes Neecha Bhanga Rajayoga.Or you may be interpreting that two debilitated planets aspecting eachother cause Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga.This not a correct interpretation of the Yoga and no Neecha Bhanga rajayoga is caused in your example.> However should Venus be in 7th Mercury will get Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga .> I trust learned Gurus would be able throw light on whether my understanding of the Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga is correct.> Chandrashekhar> - > anukochhar > ; Vedic Astrology ; vedic astrology > Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:09 PM> > > > Om sri hanumate namah,> > Dear all,> > The question as usual is pretty basic.- Maybe I've just been glossing over> the mails recently.> > Its About NBRY. Lets say if mercury is deb in 2nd house and venus in 8th -> will it be called a NbRy or will the overall sinnifications be neutralised?> regrds,> Anu.> > > > > > > > > > > --> Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.> > > Your use of is subject to the > > Groups Sponsor > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Nature doesnot do anything uselessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 |Namah Shivaaya|Dear Chakroo, Sudden rise to a high position in workplace through the dethrowning of someone else in a highly unexpected situation. Career is full of high ups and low downs.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Rajiv Lakhanpal vedic astrology Monday, August 04, 2003 7:00 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Neecha Bhanga Yoga: Visti ji Dear Visti ji I have Saturn in Aries 10th house debilitated. Does it mean it gets neechabhanga. I also have Venus in Libra 4th house. How will Saturn dasa be for me. Regards chakrooVisti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote: |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Anna, Comments below.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Monday, August 04, 2003 12:42 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Neecha Bhanga Yoga Dear Visti, Thanks for this summary. It seems that more than one of four f. has to be present in order for NB to occur. Visti: One is enough. If it's only one, as Ramesh asked, what would happen to the planet canceling debilitation of certain planet- will it still be able to protect it's significance, or will it lose some power by cancelling deb. Can it preform both functions? Visti: Its more like, letting the other planet/person jump onto the band wagon. The strong planet doesn't loose much - but abit sometimes. When planets are in parivartana, affairs of the houses where mutual exchange occurs are connected. Assume we have Li Lagna with Sun in Lagna. lagnesh is in 11th house, venus- sun is in debility and Venus poorly placed. However, due to parivartana they both gain strengt- would you explain the results of their mutual functional exhange- Visti: Sun in Lagna and debilitated is immedietely Neecha Banga. Any graha in kendra will get neecha banga if its also debilitated. See we will always make the best out of whatever is in the Kendra, as these are the pillars of our life. Even if my home is down right rotten, i will be sure to make the best out of it if i wanto sleep. Hence the basis of the 4th house giving neecha banga. In this case Venus also acts as Badhakesh instead of Sun. I have that in my D2 chart- since I am Venus antar, followed by Sun's antar, I made a conclussion that both subs should be food gor finacial affairs. Visti: Parivritti Dwaya Hora is not for finances - its for family. In which cases planets do each other's job? Visti: Parivartana Yoga. Thanks, Anna Thanks, Annargangaramani <rgangaramani > wrote: Dear Visti,It was nice of you to post one of Sanjayji's mail on the subject. Is it enough if one of the 4 conditions is met?RegardsRamesh--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> ----- Original Message ----- > Sanjay Rath > > Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:29 PM> RE: > > > Om Gurave namah> Dear Chandrasekhar & Anu,> Neechabhanga occurs when the following conditions attain:> > 1. The lord of the sign of exaltation of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. For example, if Mercury is debilitaed in Pisces, the Mercury itself which is the lord of Virgo, the sign of its exaltation, should be in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. Thus, Mercury attains neechabhanga if eithe lagna or chandra is in any of the dual signs. It is for this purpose you find that dual signs give good communication abilities and produce many writes etc. Another example: If Saturn is debilitaed in Aries, then if Venus, the lord of Libra its sign of exaltation is in a kendra to the Lagna or Moon, Saturn gets neecha bhanga or cancellation of debility.> > 2. The lord of the sign of debility of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. This is the concept of the dispositor of the planet, and if the dispositor of a debilitated planet is in a Kendra to Lagna or Moon, then neecha bhanga occurs. This is also an important part of the Kalpa Druma Yoga where the dispositor of the strong lagna lord is required to be in a kendra to lagna. In such a case, when the naive approaches someone for help, when in trouble or in debility, help is sure to come.> > 3. The debilitated planet occupies its exaltation sign in the Navamsa chart. Every sign has nine Navamsa, Saturn is debilitated in Aries and the seventh Navamsa is that of Libra, its exaltation sign. Thus, if Saturn were to be between 20-23.20 degrees in Aries, neechabhanga is automatic. This implies that the native has done some very good dharmic karma in the past birth bring ing forth the blesings of Bhagavan and hence his debilitated condition or troubles are forgiven and he gets relief.> > 4. The sign where the planet is in debility is conjoined another planet which gets exalted in that sign. It pays to have powerful friends and associates and a planet in debility, if conjoined another planet in exaltation leads to a situation where the troubled soul meets another who is exalted and powerful or the person who is best suited to help him out. Sheer luck you may call those situations or just coincidence is what many people say. In one case, a businessman was about to be kicked out of all his businesses and as he waited at the airport, he had the acquaintance of the chairman of a bank. They discussed and then the businessman revealed his problem. The Chairman cancelled his flight and went back to office the next day and gave him a loan. The businessman went on to purchase controlling shares and grow into a big business house.> > Such Rajyoga do not occur with every neechabhanga, and at least a few of the factors cited above have to occur. further, all planets do not get neechabhanga by all the four methods. As a study, examine the debility of each planet and see the peculiar situations that cause its exaltations and the lessons they hold.> > Best Wishes> Sanjay Rath> > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]> Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:54 AM> > Re: > > > Dear Anu,> Try to understand Neechabhanga Raja Yoga.This is said to have been caused when:> 1)The lord of house in which the debilitated planet attains Exaltation is in Quadrant or trine from Moon or Adcendant.> 2) Another interpretation of the same shloka interpretes "Taducchanath" as that planet which attains exaltation in debiliation sign occupied by the Neecha planet.> However this would mean that not all planets could attain Neechabhang and to my Logic the first interpretation appears to be correct.> In the example given by you , you prbably think that aspect of debilitated planet on the planet attaining exaltation causes Neecha Bhanga Rajayoga.Or you may be interpreting that two debilitated planets aspecting eachother cause Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga.This not a correct interpretation of the Yoga and no Neecha Bhanga rajayoga is caused in your example.> However should Venus be in 7th Mercury will get Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga .> I trust learned Gurus would be able throw light on whether my understanding of the Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga is correct.> Chandrashekhar> - > anukochhar > To: ; Vedic Astrology ; vedic astrology > Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:09 PM> > > > Om sri hanumate namah,> > Dear all,> > The question as usual is pretty basic.- Maybe I've just been glossing over> the mails recently.> > Its About NBRY. Lets say if mercury is deb in 2nd house and venus in 8th -> will it be called a NbRy or will the overall sinnifications be neutralised?> regrds,> Anu.> > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > > --> Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.> > > Your use of is subject to the > > Groups Sponsor > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Nature doesnot do anything uselessly Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I've seen your response to my post now, didn't get the mail when you responded! Thanks a lot for fine explanation, I'm glad I didn't loose it. Best wishes, AnnaVisti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote: |Namah Shivaaya|Dear Chakroo, Sudden rise to a high position in workplace through the dethrowning of someone else in a highly unexpected situation. Career is full of high ups and low downs.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Rajiv Lakhanpal vedic astrology Monday, August 04, 2003 7:00 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Neecha Bhanga Yoga: Visti ji Dear Visti ji I have Saturn in Aries 10th house debilitated. Does it mean it gets neechabhanga. I also have Venus in Libra 4th house. How will Saturn dasa be for me. Regards chakrooVisti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote: |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Anna, Comments below.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Monday, August 04, 2003 12:42 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Neecha Bhanga Yoga Dear Visti, Thanks for this summary. It seems that more than one of four f. has to be present in order for NB to occur. Visti: One is enough. If it's only one, as Ramesh asked, what would happen to the planet canceling debilitation of certain planet- will it still be able to protect it's significance, or will it lose some power by cancelling deb. Can it preform both functions? Visti: Its more like, letting the other planet/person jump onto the band wagon. The strong planet doesn't loose much - but abit sometimes. When planets are in parivartana, affairs of the houses where mutual exchange occurs are connected. Assume we have Li Lagna with Sun in Lagna. lagnesh is in 11th house, venus- sun is in debility and Venus poorly placed. However, due to parivartana they both gain strengt- would you explain the results of their mutual functional exhange- Visti: Sun in Lagna and debilitated is immedietely Neecha Banga. Any graha in kendra will get neecha banga if its also debilitated. See we will always make the best out of whatever is in the Kendra, as these are the pillars of our life. Even if my home is down right rotten, i will be sure to make the best out of it if i wanto sleep. Hence the basis of the 4th house giving neecha banga. In this case Venus also acts as Badhakesh instead of Sun. I have that in my D2 chart- since I am Venus antar, followed by Sun's antar, I made a conclussion that both subs should be food gor finacial affairs. Visti: Parivritti Dwaya Hora is not for finances - its for family. In which cases planets do each other's job? Visti: Parivartana Yoga. Thanks, Anna Thanks, Annargangaramani <rgangaramani > wrote: Dear Visti,It was nice of you to post one of Sanjayji's mail on the subject. Is it enough if one of the 4 conditions is met?RegardsRamesh--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> ----- Original Message ----- > Sanjay Rath > > Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:29 PM> RE: > > > Om Gurave namah> Dear Chandrasekhar & Anu,> Neechabhanga occurs when the following conditions attain:> > 1. The lord of the sign of exaltation of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. For example, if Mercury is debilitaed in Pisces, the Mercury itself which is the lord of Virgo, the sign of its exaltation, should be in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. Thus, Mercury attains neechabhanga if eithe lagna or chandra is in any of the dual signs. It is for this purpose you find that dual signs give good communication abilities and produce many writes etc. Another example: If Saturn is debilitaed in Aries, then if Venus, the lord of Libra its sign of exaltation is in a kendra to the Lagna or Moon, Saturn gets neecha bhanga or cancellation of debility.> > 2. The lord of the sign of debility of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. This is the concept of the dispositor of the planet, and if the dispositor of a debilitated planet is in a Kendra to Lagna or Moon, then neecha bhanga occurs. This is also an important part of the Kalpa Druma Yoga where the dispositor of the strong lagna lord is required to be in a kendra to lagna. In such a case, when the naive approaches someone for help, when in trouble or in debility, help is sure to come.> > 3. The debilitated planet occupies its exaltation sign in the Navamsa chart. Every sign has nine Navamsa, Saturn is debilitated in Aries and the seventh Navamsa is that of Libra, its exaltation sign. Thus, if Saturn were to be between 20-23.20 degrees in Aries, neechabhanga is automatic. This implies that the native has done some very good dharmic karma in the past birth bring ing forth the blesings of Bhagavan and hence his debilitated condition or troubles are forgiven and he gets relief.> > 4. The sign where the planet is in debility is conjoined another planet which gets exalted in that sign. It pays to have powerful friends and associates and a planet in debility, if conjoined another planet in exaltation leads to a situation where the troubled soul meets another who is exalted and powerful or the person who is best suited to help him out. Sheer luck you may call those situations or just coincidence is what many people say. In one case, a businessman was about to be kicked out of all his businesses and as he waited at the airport, he had the acquaintance of the chairman of a bank. They discussed and then the businessman revealed his problem. The Chairman cancelled his flight and went back to office the next day and gave him a loan. The businessman went on to purchase controlling shares and grow into a big business house.> > Such Rajyoga do not occur with every neechabhanga, and at least a few of the factors cited above have to occur. further, all planets do not get neechabhanga by all the four methods. As a study, examine the debility of each planet and see the peculiar situations that cause its exaltations and the lessons they hold.> > Best Wishes> Sanjay Rath> > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]> Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:54 AM> To: > Re: > > > Dear Anu,> Try to understand Neechabhanga Raja Yoga.This is said to have been caused when:> 1)The lord of house in which the debilitated planet attains Exaltation is in Quadrant or trine from Moon or Adcendant.> 2) Another interpretation of the same shloka interpretes "Taducchanath" as that planet which attains exaltation in debiliation sign occupied by the Neecha planet.> However this would mean that not all planets could attain Neechabhang and to my Logic the first interpretation appears to be correct.> In the example given by you , you prbably think that aspect of debilitated planet on the planet attaining exaltation causes Neecha Bhanga Rajayoga.Or you may be interpreting that two debilitated planets aspecting eachother cause Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga.This not a correct interpretation of the Yoga and no Neecha Bhanga rajayoga is caused in your example.> However should Venus be in 7th Mercury will get Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga .> I trust learned Gurus would be able throw light on whether my understanding of the Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga is correct.> Chandrashekhar> - > anukochhar > ; Vedic Astrology ; vedic astrology > Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:09 PM> > > > Om sri hanumate namah,> > Dear all,> > The question as usual is pretty basic.- Maybe I've just been glossing over> the mails recently.> > Its About NBRY. Lets say if mercury is deb in 2nd house and venus in 8th -> will it be called a NbRy or will the overall sinnifications be neutralised?> regrds,> Anu.> > > > > > > > > > > --> Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.> > > Your use of is subject to the > > Groups Sponsor > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Nature doesnot do anything uselessly Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I've seen your response to my post now, didn't get the mail when you responded! Thanks a lot for fine explanation, I'm glad I didn't loose it. Best wishes, AnnaVisti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote: |Namah Shivaaya|Dear Chakroo, Sudden rise to a high position in workplace through the dethrowning of someone else in a highly unexpected situation. Career is full of high ups and low downs.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Rajiv Lakhanpal vedic astrology Monday, August 04, 2003 7:00 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Neecha Bhanga Yoga: Visti ji Dear Visti ji I have Saturn in Aries 10th house debilitated. Does it mean it gets neechabhanga. I also have Venus in Libra 4th house. How will Saturn dasa be for me. Regards chakrooVisti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote: |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Anna, Comments below.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - j.b vedic astrology Monday, August 04, 2003 12:42 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Neecha Bhanga Yoga Dear Visti, Thanks for this summary. It seems that more than one of four f. has to be present in order for NB to occur. Visti: One is enough. If it's only one, as Ramesh asked, what would happen to the planet canceling debilitation of certain planet- will it still be able to protect it's significance, or will it lose some power by cancelling deb. Can it preform both functions? Visti: Its more like, letting the other planet/person jump onto the band wagon. The strong planet doesn't loose much - but abit sometimes. When planets are in parivartana, affairs of the houses where mutual exchange occurs are connected. Assume we have Li Lagna with Sun in Lagna. lagnesh is in 11th house, venus- sun is in debility and Venus poorly placed. However, due to parivartana they both gain strengt- would you explain the results of their mutual functional exhange- Visti: Sun in Lagna and debilitated is immedietely Neecha Banga. Any graha in kendra will get neecha banga if its also debilitated. See we will always make the best out of whatever is in the Kendra, as these are the pillars of our life. Even if my home is down right rotten, i will be sure to make the best out of it if i wanto sleep. Hence the basis of the 4th house giving neecha banga. In this case Venus also acts as Badhakesh instead of Sun. I have that in my D2 chart- since I am Venus antar, followed by Sun's antar, I made a conclussion that both subs should be food gor finacial affairs. Visti: Parivritti Dwaya Hora is not for finances - its for family. In which cases planets do each other's job? Visti: Parivartana Yoga. Thanks, Anna Thanks, Annargangaramani <rgangaramani > wrote: Dear Visti,It was nice of you to post one of Sanjayji's mail on the subject. Is it enough if one of the 4 conditions is met?RegardsRamesh--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> ----- Original Message ----- > Sanjay Rath > > Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:29 PM> RE: > > > Om Gurave namah> Dear Chandrasekhar & Anu,> Neechabhanga occurs when the following conditions attain:> > 1. The lord of the sign of exaltation of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. For example, if Mercury is debilitaed in Pisces, the Mercury itself which is the lord of Virgo, the sign of its exaltation, should be in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. Thus, Mercury attains neechabhanga if eithe lagna or chandra is in any of the dual signs. It is for this purpose you find that dual signs give good communication abilities and produce many writes etc. Another example: If Saturn is debilitaed in Aries, then if Venus, the lord of Libra its sign of exaltation is in a kendra to the Lagna or Moon, Saturn gets neecha bhanga or cancellation of debility.> > 2. The lord of the sign of debility of the debilitated planet is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. This is the concept of the dispositor of the planet, and if the dispositor of a debilitated planet is in a Kendra to Lagna or Moon, then neecha bhanga occurs. This is also an important part of the Kalpa Druma Yoga where the dispositor of the strong lagna lord is required to be in a kendra to lagna. In such a case, when the naive approaches someone for help, when in trouble or in debility, help is sure to come.> > 3. The debilitated planet occupies its exaltation sign in the Navamsa chart. Every sign has nine Navamsa, Saturn is debilitated in Aries and the seventh Navamsa is that of Libra, its exaltation sign. Thus, if Saturn were to be between 20-23.20 degrees in Aries, neechabhanga is automatic. This implies that the native has done some very good dharmic karma in the past birth bring ing forth the blesings of Bhagavan and hence his debilitated condition or troubles are forgiven and he gets relief.> > 4. The sign where the planet is in debility is conjoined another planet which gets exalted in that sign. It pays to have powerful friends and associates and a planet in debility, if conjoined another planet in exaltation leads to a situation where the troubled soul meets another who is exalted and powerful or the person who is best suited to help him out. Sheer luck you may call those situations or just coincidence is what many people say. In one case, a businessman was about to be kicked out of all his businesses and as he waited at the airport, he had the acquaintance of the chairman of a bank. They discussed and then the businessman revealed his problem. The Chairman cancelled his flight and went back to office the next day and gave him a loan. The businessman went on to purchase controlling shares and grow into a big business house.> > Such Rajyoga do not occur with every neechabhanga, and at least a few of the factors cited above have to occur. further, all planets do not get neechabhanga by all the four methods. As a study, examine the debility of each planet and see the peculiar situations that cause its exaltations and the lessons they hold.> > Best Wishes> Sanjay Rath> > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]> Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:54 AM> To: > Re: > > > Dear Anu,> Try to understand Neechabhanga Raja Yoga.This is said to have been caused when:> 1)The lord of house in which the debilitated planet attains Exaltation is in Quadrant or trine from Moon or Adcendant.> 2) Another interpretation of the same shloka interpretes "Taducchanath" as that planet which attains exaltation in debiliation sign occupied by the Neecha planet.> However this would mean that not all planets could attain Neechabhang and to my Logic the first interpretation appears to be correct.> In the example given by you , you prbably think that aspect of debilitated planet on the planet attaining exaltation causes Neecha Bhanga Rajayoga.Or you may be interpreting that two debilitated planets aspecting eachother cause Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga.This not a correct interpretation of the Yoga and no Neecha Bhanga rajayoga is caused in your example.> However should Venus be in 7th Mercury will get Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga .> I trust learned Gurus would be able throw light on whether my understanding of the Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga is correct.> Chandrashekhar> - > anukochhar > ; Vedic Astrology ; vedic astrology > Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:09 PM> > > > Om sri hanumate namah,> > Dear all,> > The question as usual is pretty basic.- Maybe I've just been glossing over> the mails recently.> > Its About NBRY. 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Guest guest Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 Dear Vistiji In my son's birth chart, Saturn debilitated in 2nd house, and Sun debilitated in 8th house. Both r forming cancellation of debilitation as per the rules cited by u. Does it make any further weakness to venus, which causes cancellation of debilitation [combust in 8th house]? Is it a clear case of VRY? as 6th lord (Sun) debilitated in 8th house along with 8th lord (Venus), debilitated 12th lord (Saturn) aspects them from 2th house. Thus forms connetion between all trika lords. Asc, Pisecs, Jupiter in 12th with Ketu, Moon in 5th (Cancer) Mars+Rahu in 6th. Mercury in 9th. Regards, ajay vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote: > > |Namah Shivaaya| > Dear Chakroo, > Sudden rise to a high position in workplace through the dethrowning of someone else in a highly unexpected situation. Career is full of high ups and low downs. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > Rajiv Lakhanpal > vedic astrology > Monday, August 04, 2003 7:00 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Neecha Bhanga Yoga: Visti ji > > > Dear Visti ji > I have Saturn in Aries 10th house debilitated. Does it mean it gets neechabhanga. I also have Venus in Libra 4th house. > How will Saturn dasa be for me. > > Regards > chakroo > > Visti Larsen <balabhadra@j...> wrote: > > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah| > Dear Anna, > Comments below. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > j.b > vedic astrology > Monday, August 04, 2003 12:42 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Neecha Bhanga Yoga > > > Dear Visti, > > Thanks for this summary. It seems that more than one of four f. has to be present in order for NB to occur. > Visti: One is enough. > If it's only one, as Ramesh asked, what would happen to the planet canceling debilitation of certain planet- will it still be able to protect it's significance, or will it lose some power by cancelling deb. Can it preform both functions? > Visti: Its more like, letting the other planet/person jump onto the band wagon. The strong planet doesn't loose much - but abit sometimes. > When planets are in parivartana, affairs of the houses where mutual exchange occurs > are connected. Assume we have Li Lagna with Sun in Lagna. lagnesh is in 11th house, > venus- sun is in debility and Venus poorly placed. However, due to parivartana they both gain strengt- would you explain the results of their mutual functional exhange- > Visti: Sun in Lagna and debilitated is immedietely Neecha Banga. Any graha in kendra will get neecha banga if its also debilitated. See we will always make the best out of whatever is in the Kendra, as these are the pillars of our life. Even if my home is down right rotten, i will be sure to make the best out of it if i wanto sleep. Hence the basis of the 4th house giving neecha banga. > In this case Venus also acts as Badhakesh instead of Sun. > I have that in my D2 chart- since I am Venus antar, followed by Sun's antar, I made a conclussion that both subs should be food gor finacial affairs. > Visti: Parivritti Dwaya Hora is not for finances - its for family. > In which cases planets do each other's job? > Visti: Parivartana Yoga. > Thanks, > Anna > Thanks, > Anna > > rgangaramani <rgangaramani> wrote: > Dear Visti, > It was nice of you to post one of Sanjayji's mail on the subject. Is > it enough if one of the 4 conditions is met? > Regards > Ramesh > > > vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" > <balabhadra@j...> wrote: > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > > > Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:29 PM > > RE: > > > > > > Om Gurave namah > > Dear Chandrasekhar & Anu, > > Neechabhanga occurs when the following conditions attain: > > > > 1. The lord of the sign of exaltation of the debilitated planet > is in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. For example, if Mercury is > debilitaed in Pisces, the Mercury itself which is the lord of Virgo, > the sign of its exaltation, should be in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. > Thus, Mercury attains neechabhanga if eithe lagna or chandra is in > any of the dual signs. It is for this purpose you find that dual > signs give good communication abilities and produce many writes etc. > Another example: If Saturn is debilitaed in Aries, then if Venus, the > lord of Libra its sign of exaltation is in a kendra to the Lagna or > Moon, Saturn gets neecha bhanga or cancellation of debility. > > > > 2. The lord of the sign of debility of the debilitated planet is > in a kendra to Lagna or Moon. This is the concept of the dispositor > of the planet, and if the dispositor of a debilitated planet is in a > Kendra to Lagna or Moon, then neecha bhanga occurs. This is also an > important part of the Kalpa Druma Yoga where the dispositor of the > strong lagna lord is required to be in a kendra to lagna. In such a > case, when the naive approaches someone for help, when in trouble or > in debility, help is sure to come. > > > > 3. The debilitated planet occupies its exaltation sign in the > Navamsa chart. Every sign has nine Navamsa, Saturn is debilitated in > Aries and the seventh Navamsa is that of Libra, its exaltation sign. > Thus, if Saturn were to be between 20-23.20 degrees in Aries, > neechabhanga is automatic. This implies that the native has done some > very good dharmic karma in the past birth bring ing forth the > blesings of Bhagavan and hence his debilitated condition or troubles > are forgiven and he gets relief. > > > > 4. The sign where the planet is in debility is conjoined another > planet which gets exalted in that sign. It pays to have powerful > friends and associates and a planet in debility, if conjoined another > planet in exaltation leads to a situation where the troubled soul > meets another who is exalted and powerful or the person who is best > suited to help him out. Sheer luck you may call those situations or > just coincidence is what many people say. In one case, a businessman > was about to be kicked out of all his businesses and as he waited at > the airport, he had the acquaintance of the chairman of a bank. They > discussed and then the businessman revealed his problem. The Chairman > cancelled his flight and went back to office the next day and gave > him a loan. The businessman went on to purchase controlling shares > and grow into a big business house. > > > > Such Rajyoga do not occur with every neechabhanga, and at least a > few of the factors cited above have to occur. further, all planets do > not get neechabhanga by all the four methods. As a study, examine the > debility of each planet and see the peculiar situations that cause > its exaltations and the lessons they hold. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > > > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel] > > Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:54 AM > > > > Re: > > > > > > Dear Anu, > > Try to understand Neechabhanga Raja Yoga.This is said to have been > caused when: > > 1)The lord of house in which the debilitated planet attains > Exaltation is in Quadrant or trine from Moon or Adcendant. > > 2) Another interpretation of the same shloka > interpretes "Taducchanath" as that planet which attains exaltation in > debiliation sign occupied by the Neecha planet. > > However this would mean that not all planets could attain > Neechabhang and to my Logic the first interpretation appears to be > correct. > > In the example given by you , you prbably think that aspect of > debilitated planet on the planet attaining exaltation causes Neecha > Bhanga Rajayoga.Or you may be interpreting that two debilitated > planets aspecting eachother cause Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga.This not a > correct interpretation of the Yoga and no Neecha Bhanga rajayoga is > caused in your example. > > However should Venus be in 7th Mercury will get Neecha Bhanga Raja > Yoga . > > I trust learned Gurus would be able throw light on whether my > understanding of the Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga is correct. > > Chandrashekhar > > - > > anukochhar > > ; > Vedic Astrology ; vedic- astrology > > Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:09 PM > > > > > > > > Om sri hanumate namah, > > > > Dear all, > > > > The question as usual is pretty basic.- Maybe I've just been > glossing over > > the mails recently. > > > > Its About NBRY. Lets say if mercury is deb in 2nd house and venus > in 8th - > > will it be called a NbRy or will the overall sinnifications be > neutralised? > > regrds, > > Anu. > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- ---------- > ------------ > > Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs. > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > -- ------ > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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