Nagpanchmi / Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/small serpents/Visti

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Dear Visti,

 

Sarpa Shaapa

and Sarpa Badhak

are new to me-

These are more frequent trouble-maker I guess than KSY.

 

In example I mentioned, its Malefic aspect Rahu /in both Rashi and Navasma-

which makes this SS more relevant. While in case of Sarpa Badhak I think badhak

obstructions are more pronaunced /what else?/ , for SS I don't have that clear

picture, as of the way it manifests. When you get a chance to elaborate on this

I'd appreciate /after Conference, I know you are busy now/

 

Taurus lagna- I found Exalted Saturn /badhakesh/ in 6th with Mars- not close

conjunction by orb, but still conj.- that's Sarpa Badhak-

Mars is seventh Lord- I would assume that contact with badakesh would exasperate

marital problems. Finaly,

What would be remedy for each of this 'baby' serpents?

 

In both cases badhakesh in sixth may indicate BM.?

I've read Sanjay's handout - on Badhak, for Conference- it's amazingly

persuasive and wet my appetite for more understanding- I would need to study

more and ask more- I feel helpless in my understanding of Deities, remedies,

related to these topic.

I guess you understand this. Look forward for your response,

Anna

 

 

 

Visti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote:

 

|Om tatsavitur varenyaam|Dear Anna,

There are various types of problems from Serpents.

The two you have mentioned are;

i. Sarpa Yoga (malefics occupying 3 quadrants).

ii. Kala Sarpa Yoga (All planets between Ketu and Rahu - counted in zodiacal order).

 

There can be other problems from serpents such as;

i. Sarpa shaapa (curse of serpents due to malefics having graha dristi on Rahu).

ii. Sarpa Badhak (Badhak Sthana or Badhakesh associated with Rahu).

In the example you mentioned there could be Sarpa Badhak (need to see the

chart), but those two positions do not fulfill the criteria for Sarpa Yoga nor

Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

As for malefics occupying angles. Note that out of the 4, 3 angles must be

occupied to ensure the Sarpa Yoga - try to think about this.

Best wishesVisti---Visti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote:

 

|Om tatsavitur varenyaam|Dear Anna,

There are various types of problems from Serpents.

The two you have mentioned are;

i. Sarpa Yoga (malefics occupying 3 quadrants).

ii. Kala Sarpa Yoga (All planets between Ketu and Rahu - counted in zodiacal order).

 

There can be other problems from serpents such as;

i. Sarpa shaapa (curse of serpents due to malefics having graha dristi on Rahu).

ii. Sarpa Badhak (Badhak Sthana or Badhakesh associated with Rahu).

In the example you mentioned there could be Sarpa Badhak (need to see the

chart), but those two positions do not fulfill the criteria for Sarpa Yoga nor

Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

As for malefics occupying angles. Note that out of the 4, 3 angles must be

occupied to ensure the Sarpa Yoga - try to think about this.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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j.b

vedic astrology

Monday, July 28, 2003 8:41 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi / Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/sanjay

Dear Sanjay,

 

Your effective explanation on interconnectness of all angular houses affairs,

made me 'mull over this issue further- Can it be that even one malefic in angle

/if strenght, aspects, argalas do not intervene/

can have similar path of affecting crucial affairs of angular houses.

However, you mentioned 3.

Would you say 'serpent-like' /not full-kala sarpa yoga, obviously/ effect when

you have Mars in forth trine Rahu in 8th,

and therefore conjunct in Navasma. Would you be incined to see 'serpent-like'

effects in this. This is a specific question.

Broader one would be if we could/ if we do consider 'serpent like' effect with

one, two malefics in any angle /even if it happens under 'some' circumstances

only?

 

God help,

hope it's clear.

Thanks.

 

Anna lakshmisyama <lakshmisyama (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare KrishnaDear Sanjay,PranamsThere were a discussions last month on proper

sequences of MOola dasa,if ketu is involved etc.I am also trying to get right

sequence for my chart.I think the answer is right here below in your post on

sarpa yogas etc,Moola is the "root" cause and in this same line all the

answers to MOola dasa are answered in your post ..as the logic and basis is the

same from my point of view.When we meet at SJC west coast conference in

Sunnyvale it would be great to continue our talks on Moola Dasa continuing from

last year..if there is time!Thanks so much for your insights , I hope one day to

beable to think deeply on my own.With best wishesLakshmi--- In

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <daivagyna@s...> wrote:> > > om

aià huà hréà

stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä> > Dear Mukund> > This would be valid to discuss

further as well as each of the meanings of the results if there was a consensus

that the four kendra, the vishnu sthana, implied the four goals of dharma,

artha, kaama and moksha for 1, 10, 7 & 4th houses. If we accept this then the

understanding of sarpa yoga becomes easy. > > Secondly, in the chapter on

Yogakaraka Parasara speaks of paraspara yogakaraka which is the undelying

principle behind the working of the signs in mutual kendras. That is the signs

in kendra are of one type and an affliction coming to one has its impact on

other quadrants as well. Understand it like this. Lets say someones health is

bad and he is in hospital or is undergoing serious treatment, then his work

also suffers and he cannot go to work. If a person has no work and no means of

income (10th is damaged) then his personal life also

suffers as the wife is more inclined to leave him, fights at home etc etc. If

there is no wife at all (7th is empty) then what to talk of making a home (4th

house)! He is a free bird and can fly anywhere...that is the implication

between the interconnectivity of the kendra.> > Lets say Sarpa yoga is not

technically present and we have one malefic in lagna and two malefic planets in

the 7th house. Then his health/mind is under threat and personal life is full of

worry's. So will this not impact the 10th & 4th houses based on Paraspara karaka

theory of Parasara.> > I give an illustration.........> > Taurus Lagna with Rahu

in it. Ketu and sun in 7th house. This young boy ( afriend of my younger

brother) was like a brother to me. He got into some bad company, was into

alcohol and all sots of addictions. Wore a diamond on my pushing, went for

de-addiction camp and fell in love with the girl who

nursed him (see 4th lord in 7th house). Sun in 7th ...sva kule gupte cha...the

girl became the most trusted lady of his home after their marriage. They were

always separated as she was in Bombay and he was trying to do some business. He

died recently of brain haemorraghe..blood pressure I believe. He was never short

of wealth (see the sun involved in the Yoga did not deny financial strength to

the chart) but he could never really get out of alcohol, although he did give

up other things.> > Addiction is one of the signs of sarpa yoga as it is the

poison that is spread in the body. there will be some form of addiction

depending on the nature of planets and the extent to which it is broken. See a

few cases, study them very carefully with each of the results given and see to

what extent these results apply and why.> > Yours truly,> > Sanjay Rath> > H-5

BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014,

India> > http://srath.com Tel:+91 674 243 6871 > > >

monmuk111 [monmuk111]> Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:45 AM>

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi

and Sarpa Dosa> > > Dear members:> > Sarpa yog is having malefics in THREE or

more DISTINCT quadrants, not > having three malefics in A QUADRANT or TWO

QUADRANTS.> > Mukund> > vedic astrology,

"vikram_singhvi" > <vikram_singhvi> wrote:> > Respected Chandrasheharji,>

> > > Sorry to interfere you here. I think we have to consider > >

nodes also here otherwise only Sat and Mars will be left to > consider > > as

Sun is not

considered as Malefic but a Kroor Graha as Sanjayji > > also mentioned this in

his recent mail.Hence the condition for > having > > a sarpa yoga(presence of

having 3 or more malefic in the > quardrants) > > will never be satisfied if we

don't take nodes into account.> > > > Thanks & regards> > > > Vikram> > > > ---

In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" > > <boxdel>

wrote:> > > Dear Shunny,> > > I do not thnk you have Sarpa dosha. When

papagrahas are > mentioned, > > I do not> > > think the nodes are included.

Other Gurus might like to enlighten.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > > -----Original

Message-----> > > shunny nigam [shunny65]> > > Sent:

Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:54

PM> > > sanjay Rath> > > Cc: Vedic Astrology> > > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Nagpanchmi and Sarpa Dosa> > > > > > > > > OM NAMO

NARAYANA> > > > > > Pranam Guruji and other list members> > > > > > I am

having sarpa dosa (three malefic in Kendra).Scorpio lagna, > > Ketu in> > >

Lagna,Sat in 4H,Moon and Rahu in 7H.This dosa is broken by > exalted > > moon.>

> > > > > Nagpanchmi is on 2 August 2003.> > > > > > The remedial measure

for sarpa dosa is puja on Nagpanchmi but I > > dont know> > > what to do (

means fast or recitation of any mantra or offering > > milk to> > > snakes

etc).> > > > >

> Please tell me how to perform remedial measure for Sarpa dosa on> > >

Nagpanchmi.This would also benefit other members on list having > > Sarpa dosa>

> > and suffering agony.> > > > > > With warm regards> > > > > > Shunny

Nigam> > > Delhi.> > > > > > > > >

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|Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Anna,

Comments below.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS

99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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vedic astrology

Monday, August 04, 2003 12:50 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi / Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/small serpents/Visti

Dear Visti,

 

Sarpa Shaapa

and Sarpa Badhak

are new to me-

These are more frequent trouble-maker I guess than KSY.

 

In example I mentioned, its Malefic aspect Rahu /in both Rashi and Navasma-

which makes this SS more relevant. While in case of Sarpa Badhak I think badhak

obstructions are more pronaunced /what else?/ , for SS I don't have that clear

picture, as of the way it manifests. When you get a chance to elaborate on this

I'd appreciate /after Conference, I know you are busy now/

 

Visti: If Rahu is afflicted by both Mars and Saturn, by Graha dristi, theres

Sarpa Shaapa. The Lordship of Rahu shows the area of suffering.

 

Taurus lagna- I found Exalted Saturn /badhakesh/ in 6th with Mars- not close

conjunction by orb, but still conj.- that's Sarpa Badhak-

Visti: Rahu must be involved for Sarpa Badhak. This is Abhichara, or Black

Magic. This also implies "Pisacha Badhak" or torment from evil spirits, as the

Black magic practitioner sends evil spirits to do his/her bidding.

 

Mars is seventh Lord- I would assume that contact with badakesh would exasperate marital problems.

Visti: 7th lord in 6th shows that the spouse becomes an enemy. If this is

involved with Badhak, you know the rest of the story.

Any planets in the 6th indicate those who fight you, or don't like you. Pay

attention to both lordship and natural characterestics of the grahas.Finaly,

What would be remedy for each of this 'baby' serpents?

Visti: As indicated, theres no Sarpa Badhak unless Rahu is in Badhak Sthana

or joined Badhakesh.

I believe the best remedy for Abhichara is the worship of Guru, besides the

possibility of worshipping Ucchista Ganapati.

 

In both cases badhakesh in sixth may indicate BM.?

I've read Sanjay's handout - on Badhak, for Conference- it's amazingly

persuasive and wet my appetite for more understanding- I would need to study

more and ask more- I feel helpless in my understanding of Deities, remedies,

related to these topic.

I guess you understand this. Look forward for your response,

Anna

 

 

 

Visti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote:

 

|Om tatsavitur varenyaam|Dear Anna,

There are various types of problems from Serpents.

The two you have mentioned are;

i. Sarpa Yoga (malefics occupying 3 quadrants).

ii. Kala Sarpa Yoga (All planets between Ketu and Rahu - counted in zodiacal order).

 

There can be other problems from serpents such as;

i. Sarpa shaapa (curse of serpents due to malefics having graha dristi on Rahu).

ii. Sarpa Badhak (Badhak Sthana or Badhakesh associated with Rahu).

In the example you mentioned there could be Sarpa Badhak (need to see the

chart), but those two positions do not fulfill the criteria for Sarpa Yoga nor

Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

As for malefics occupying angles. Note that out of the 4, 3 angles must be

occupied to ensure the Sarpa Yoga - try to think about this.

Best wishesVisti---Visti Larsen <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote:

 

|Om tatsavitur varenyaam|Dear Anna,

There are various types of problems from Serpents.

The two you have mentioned are;

i. Sarpa Yoga (malefics occupying 3 quadrants).

ii. Kala Sarpa Yoga (All planets between Ketu and Rahu - counted in zodiacal order).

 

There can be other problems from serpents such as;

i. Sarpa shaapa (curse of serpents due to malefics having graha dristi on Rahu).

ii. Sarpa Badhak (Badhak Sthana or Badhakesh associated with Rahu).

In the example you mentioned there could be Sarpa Badhak (need to see the

chart), but those two positions do not fulfill the criteria for Sarpa Yoga nor

Kala Sarpa Yoga.

 

As for malefics occupying angles. Note that out of the 4, 3 angles must be

occupied to ensure the Sarpa Yoga - try to think about this.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

j.b

vedic astrology

Monday, July 28, 2003 8:41 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi / Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/sanjay

Dear Sanjay,

 

Your effective explanation on interconnectness of all angular houses affairs,

made me 'mull over this issue further- Can it be that even one malefic in angle

/if strenght, aspects, argalas do not intervene/

can have similar path of affecting crucial affairs of angular houses.

However, you mentioned 3.

Would you say 'serpent-like' /not full-kala sarpa yoga, obviously/ effect when

you have Mars in forth trine Rahu in 8th,

and therefore conjunct in Navasma. Would you be incined to see 'serpent-like'

effects in this. This is a specific question.

Broader one would be if we could/ if we do consider 'serpent like' effect with

one, two malefics in any angle /even if it happens under 'some' circumstances

only?

 

God help,

hope it's clear.

Thanks.

 

Anna lakshmisyama <lakshmisyama (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare KrishnaDear Sanjay,PranamsThere were a discussions last month on proper

sequences of MOola dasa,if ketu is involved etc.I am also trying to get right

sequence for my chart.I think the answer is right here below in your post on

sarpa yogas etc,Moola is the "root" cause and in this same line all the

answers to MOola dasa are answered in your post ..as the logic and basis is the

same from my point of view.When we meet at SJC west coast conference in

Sunnyvale it would be great to continue our talks on Moola Dasa continuing from

last year..if there is time!Thanks so much for your insights , I hope one day to

beable to think deeply on my own.With best wishesLakshmi--- In

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <daivagyna@s...> wrote:> > > om

aià huà hréà stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä> > Dear Mukund> > This would be valid

to discuss further as well as each of the meanings of the results if there was a

consensus that the four kendra, the vishnu sthana, implied the four goals of

dharma, artha, kaama and moksha for 1, 10, 7 & 4th houses. If we accept this

then the understanding of sarpa yoga becomes easy. > > Secondly, in the chapter

on Yogakaraka Parasara speaks of paraspara yogakaraka which is the undelying

principle behind the working of the signs in mutual kendras. That is the signs

in kendra are of one type and an affliction coming to one has its impact on

other quadrants as well. Understand it like this. Lets say someones health is

bad and he is in hospital or is undergoing serious treatment, then his work

also suffers and he cannot go to work. If a person has no work and no means of

income (10th is damaged) then his personal life also suffers as the wife is

more inclined to leave him, fights at home etc etc. If there is no wife at all

(7th is empty) then what to talk of making a home (4th house)! He is a free

bird and can fly anywhere...that is the implication between the

interconnectivity of the kendra.> > Lets say Sarpa yoga is not technically

present and we have one malefic in lagna and two malefic planets in the 7th

house. Then his health/mind is under threat and personal life is full of

worry's. So will this not impact the 10th & 4th houses based on Paraspara

karaka theory of Parasara.> > I give an illustration.........> > Taurus Lagna

with Rahu in it. Ketu and sun in 7th house. This young boy ( afriend of my

younger brother) was like a brother to me. He got into some bad company, was

into alcohol and all sots of addictions. Wore a diamond on my pushing, went for

de-addiction camp and fell in love with the girl who nursed him (see 4th lord in

7th house). Sun in 7th ...sva kule gupte cha...the girl became the most trusted

lady of his home after their marriage. They were always separated as she was in

Bombay and he was trying to do some business. He died recently of brain

haemorraghe..blood pressure I believe. He was never short of wealth (see the

sun involved in the Yoga did not deny financial strength to the chart) but he

could never really get out of alcohol, although he did give up other things.> >

Addiction is one of the signs of sarpa yoga as it is the poison that is spread

in the body. there will be some form of addiction depending on the nature of

planets and the extent to which it is broken. See a few cases, study them very

carefully with each of the results given and see to what extent these results

apply and why.> > Yours truly,> > Sanjay Rath> > H-5 BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar

751014, India> > http://srath.com Tel:+91 674 243 6871 > > -----Original

Message-----> monmuk111 [monmuk111]> Sunday, July 27,

2003 2:45 AM> vedic astrology> [vedic astrology]

Re: Nagpanchmi and Sarpa Dosa> > > Dear members:> > Sarpa yog is having

malefics in THREE or more DISTINCT quadrants, not > having three malefics in A

QUADRANT or TWO QUADRANTS.> > Mukund> > vedic astrology,

"vikram_singhvi" > <vikram_singhvi> wrote:> > Respected Chandrasheharji,> >

> > Sorry to interfere you here. I think we have to consider > >

nodes also here otherwise only Sat and Mars will be left to > consider > > as

Sun is not considered as Malefic but a Kroor Graha as Sanjayji > > also

mentioned this in his recent mail.Hence the condition for > having > > a sarpa

yoga(presence of having 3 or more malefic in the > quardrants) > > will never

be satisfied if we don't take nodes into account.> > > > Thanks & regards> > >

> Vikram> > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> > <boxdel> wrote:> > > Dear Shunny,> > > I do not thnk you have Sarpa

dosha. When papagrahas are > mentioned, > > I do not> > > think the nodes are

included. Other Gurus might like to enlighten.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >

> > > shunny nigam [shunny65]> >

> Saturday, July 26, 2003 10:54 PM> > > sanjay Rath> > > Cc:

Vedic Astrology> > > [vedic astrology] Nagpanchmi and Sarpa Dosa> > >

> > > > > > OM NAMO NARAYANA> > > > > > Pranam Guruji and other list

members> > > > > > I am having sarpa dosa (three malefic in Kendra).Scorpio

lagna, > > Ketu in> > > Lagna,Sat in 4H,Moon and Rahu in 7H.This dosa is broken

by > exalted > > moon.> > > > > > Nagpanchmi is on 2 August 2003.> > > > > >

The remedial measure for sarpa dosa is puja on Nagpanchmi but I > > dont know> >

> what to do ( means fast or recitation of any mantra or offering > > milk to> >

> snakes etc).> > > > > > Please tell me how to perform remedial measure for

Sarpa dosa on> > > Nagpanchmi.This would also benefit other members on list

having > > Sarpa dosa> > > and suffering agony.> > > > > > With warm regards>

> > > > > Shunny Nigam> > > Delhi.> > > > > > > > >

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