Affliction of Sun/ qqq's

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Dear Sarajit,

 

I'm writing from the 'archive /sic!

 

Now I can say- yes, I know. Thanks a lot!

 

Just to check this out.

You said:"When a planet like Rahu becomes Ista devata, who will

distract you from the right path"-/did you miss ? or !

 

If my understanding is right,I would answer,

noooobody-

if The Chief of Mafia is your best friend,

what others can do! Is that right?

 

I am sure your ID is at least Mercury if not The Boss Himself- Guru!

 

I've read that that we can call for our ishta devata for that

precious 'flash' of intuitive knowledge, inspitation in grasping

dynamic of one chart- "goodness" of the worst malefic as ishta

devata can be of "even the worst criminal loves his children" type-

is that close to the truth?

 

Rahu is my MK- /just between you and me, I know the reason why/-

would that mean that my mother is, by extension /I don't like that

method, by the way/ my powerful gardian angel?

/I know she IS, for me/

 

Did I say no more Qs?

 

Tnaks again for your patience and clarifying my doubts.

 

Anna

 

 

-- In vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar"

<sarajitp@h...> wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Anna,

>

> My response follows:

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

> -

> j.b

> vedic astrology

> Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:06 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun/ qqq's

>

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Would it be correct conclussion that btw. the two- 3rd and 6th,

6th will prevail as far as as 'enemies' are concerned?

> Same from Rashi and AL.

>

> [sP] In the rasi chart 6th is the house of enemies and thats why

the arudha of enemies is A6 and shall show those things for the

enemies, which is shown by the AL for the self. However, for the

tactics one uses for winning over the enemies are dependent on 3rd

and 6th from AL for the self and 3rd/6th from A6 for the enemies.

Here we cannot give predominance on the 6th per se for tactics of

fighting enemies as both 3rd and 6th are equally important.

>

> 1/When we have mixed benefics or malefics in these two houses.

>

> Like malefic in third is good placement- indicates courage. And

benefics in 6th- but not interested in 'fighting'...or not

having 'real enemies'

>

> [sP] This is true in the rasi chart... From AL, it shows the

means of fighting.. Hence benefics are no way good for fighting and

also material pursuits from AL. Beneifics in the 6th from Lagna,

makes "No enemies or Benevolent enemies", however in the 6th from

AL, shows there is no means for fighting, as Malefics only gives the

means to fight and stand for domination.

>

> 2/Secondly, would we consider ketu in 6th /in Rashi and/or from

AL/ benefic or malefic?

>

> [sP] In both Rasi and from AL it is a benefic, being opposed to

Rahu, always.

>

> 3/ If Moolatrikona sign is in 6th, /Sagitarius/ and non-MT sign

is in 9th, Pisces, would you consider, based just on that

diferrence, 6th- stronger than 9th? What implications would be wrt

status of Jupiter /functional mal/ben/ -

>

> [sP] During the dasa of a planet, the result of the house

represented by the Moolatrikona sign is more pronounced. The

functional maleficence and beneficence is depended on whether or not

a planet owns 3rd, 6th or 11th . If it owns, then it becomes a

malefic or neutral (if it owns a auspicious house along with this),

irrespective of whether these house 3rd, 6th or 11th happens to be a

Moolatrikona or not. However, if they happen to be the moolatrikona,

then their evil is hightened. Now for Cancer natives, using these

rules, Jupiter should be taken as Inauspicious, however, Maharishi

Parashara pronounces otherwise. To understand this we can see what

Ramanujacharya says in Bhavartha Ratnakarak. He says, Jupiters

cannot cause any yoga. Now Parashara says that the 3rd/ 6th and 11th

lordship prevents formation of any yoga. Now, seeing Jupiter's

relationship with the Lagna, we see that Jupiter gets exalted in the

Lagna and hence is auspicious, more so when Jupiter considers Moon

a friend. Thus even if Jupiter is auspicious for Cancer Lagna, it

will not cause any rajayoga.

>

> I know that in this case, we'll treat Ju as benefic- But it's

still not clear to me

> the reason WHY?

>

> 3a/ It seems to be part of the same question: Ju is exalted in

8th house from his MT sign, Sag.

>

> I think the two q's are related, are they not?

>

> [sP] Yes related as mentioned above.

>

> 4/ I don't feel comfortable with understanding Rahu as Ishta

Devata- which energies would be there? Rahu is malefic, as Mars is-

but unlike with Mars, with Rahu I do not know what 'positive side

would be.. that ID I guess should represent.

>

> [sP] Ista devata is the shower of the right path. When a planet

like Rahu becomes Ista devata, who will distract you from the right

path. Moreover, when a malefic is troubling you and also is the Ista

Devata, then the solution becomes very easy- Propititate the Ista

and you are out of trouble.

>

> Do we have one deity or more for Rahu ID- depending on which

factors, if so?

>

> [sP] In your case, the particular combination of Mars and Rahu

indicate Chamunda devi. Otherwise you could have taken Durga for

Rahu.

>

> As you see, It's more matter of /deeper/ understanding than

getting information.

>

> OK-no more Qs---- for now- )

>

> [sP] You are most welcome. Truly the quest for understanding

comes from deep within.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> Thanks,

>

> Anna

[Guest guest]

|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Anna,

 

My response follows:

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

bona_mente

vedic astrology

Monday, August 04, 2003 5:14 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun/ qqq's

Dear Sarajit,I'm writing from the 'archive /sic!Now I can say- yes, I know.

Thanks a lot!Just to check this out.You said:"When a planet like Rahu becomes

Ista devata, who will distract you from the right path"-/did you miss ? or !

[sP] I probably missed "!"

If my understanding is right,I would answer,noooobody-if The Chief of Mafia is

your best friend,what others can do! Is that right?

 

[sP] Yes. Thats the answer.I am sure your ID is at least Mercury if not The Boss Himself- Guru!

 

[sP] My Ista devata is represented by Venus as 12th from AK is empty and is a

Venusian sign. However, the deity who shall take me to the ISTA can be seen

from the planets aspecting the 12th. Mercury aspects the 12th only and he shall

take me to the ISTA devata, if I am not yet near Him/ Her. In the rasi chart

you see that my ISTA planet is placed in a dusthana (6th house) and hence for

me worshipping ISTA doesnot come that naturally as any planet who is placed in

the Dusthana, the person is not naturally attracted towards that deity and the

opposite to this is Trine. Mercury is placed in Trine and I like worshipping

the Deity ruled by Mercury. Was that a guess or you saw my chart?I've read that

that we can call for our ishta devata for that precious 'flash' of intuitive

knowledge, inspitation in grasping dynamic of one chart- "goodness" of the

worst malefic as ishta devata can be of "even the worst criminal loves his

children" type- is that close to the truth?

 

[sP] Yes, absolutely.Rahu is my MK- /just between you and me, I know the reason

why/- would that mean that my mother is, by extension /I don't like that

method, by the way/ my powerful gardian angel?/I know she IS, for me/

 

[sP] You got it right. There is a close relationship. For me it is mother too... Venus is my MK.

Did I say no more Qs?

 

[sP] Even if you have said so... I didn't hear!Tnaks again for your patience and

clarifying my doubts.Anna-- In vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar"

<sarajitp@h...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Anna,> > My response

follows:> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> - > j.b

> vedic astrology > Saturday, August 02, 2003

7:06 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun/ qqq's> > >

Dear Sarajit,> > Would it be correct conclussion that btw. the two- 3rd and

6th, 6th will prevail as far as as 'enemies' are concerned?> Same from Rashi

and AL.> > [sP] In the rasi chart 6th is the house of enemies and thats why

the arudha of enemies is A6 and shall show those things for the enemies, which

is shown by the AL for the self. However, for the tactics one uses for winning

over the enemies are dependent on 3rd and 6th from AL for the self and 3rd/6th

from A6 for the enemies. Here we cannot give predominance on the 6th per se for

tactics of fighting enemies as both 3rd and 6th are equally important.> >

1/When we have mixed benefics or malefics in these two houses.> > Like

malefic in third is good placement- indicates courage. And benefics in 6th- but

not interested in 'fighting'...or not having 'real enemies'> > [sP] This is

true in the rasi chart... From AL, it shows the means of fighting.. Hence

benefics are no way good for fighting and also material pursuits from AL.

Beneifics in the 6th from Lagna, makes "No enemies or Benevolent enemies",

however in the 6th from AL, shows there is no means for fighting, as Malefics

only gives the means to fight and stand for domination.> > 2/Secondly, would

we consider ketu in 6th /in Rashi and/or from AL/ benefic or malefic?> > [sP]

In both Rasi and from AL it is a benefic, being opposed to Rahu, always.> > 3/

If Moolatrikona sign is in 6th, /Sagitarius/ and non-MT sign is in 9th, Pisces,

would you consider, based just on that diferrence, 6th- stronger than 9th? What

implications would be wrt status of Jupiter /functional mal/ben/ - > > [sP]

During the dasa of a planet, the result of the house represented by the

Moolatrikona sign is more pronounced. The functional maleficence and

beneficence is depended on whether or not a planet owns 3rd, 6th or 11th . If

it owns, then it becomes a malefic or neutral (if it owns a auspicious house

along with this), irrespective of whether these house 3rd, 6th or 11th happens

to be a Moolatrikona or not. However, if they happen to be the moolatrikona,

then their evil is hightened. Now for Cancer natives, using these rules,

Jupiter should be taken as Inauspicious, however, Maharishi Parashara

pronounces otherwise. To understand this we can see what Ramanujacharya says in

Bhavartha Ratnakarak. He says, Jupiters cannot cause any yoga. Now Parashara

says that the 3rd/ 6th and 11th lordship prevents formation of any yoga. Now,

seeing Jupiter's relationship with the Lagna, we see that Jupiter gets exalted

in the Lagna and hence is auspicious, more so when Jupiter considers Moon a

friend. Thus even if Jupiter is auspicious for Cancer Lagna, it will not cause

any rajayoga.> > I know that in this case, we'll treat Ju as benefic- But

it's still not clear to me> the reason WHY?> > 3a/ It seems to be part of

the same question: Ju is exalted in 8th house from his MT sign, Sag.> > I

think the two q's are related, are they not?> > [sP] Yes related as mentioned

above.> > 4/ I don't feel comfortable with understanding Rahu as Ishta Devata-

which energies would be there? Rahu is malefic, as Mars is- but unlike with

Mars, with Rahu I do not know what 'positive side would be.. that ID I guess

should represent.> > [sP] Ista devata is the shower of the right path. When a

planet like Rahu becomes Ista devata, who will distract you from the right path.

Moreover, when a malefic is troubling you and also is the Ista Devata, then the

solution becomes very easy- Propititate the Ista and you are out of trouble.> >

Do we have one deity or more for Rahu ID- depending on which factors, if so?>

> [sP] In your case, the particular combination of Mars and Rahu indicate

Chamunda devi. Otherwise you could have taken Durga for Rahu.> > As you see,

It's more matter of /deeper/ understanding than getting information.> > OK-no

more Qs---- for now- )> > [sP] You are most welcome. Truly the quest for

understanding comes from deep within.> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > Thanks,

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