RE: Nagpanchmi / Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/sanjay-->To Sanjay JI

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay Ji,

I also have Mars in 4th place( scorpio Asc ) and

Saturn/Rahu in fifth place.Venus is in Lagna. so 7th

place is aspected by Saturn, Mars and Venus. As per

your comment, I should have suspected/dominated my

husband which I never did.but unfortuantely he died.

And also According BPHS, I should have illicit

relationship before marriage according to my rasi

chart. I didn't even have such a thought in my life.

How come some of the readings are wrong? Should I

check the other divisional charts too before coming to

a conclusion?

Thanks and Regards,

Shanthi

 

 

 

 

 

--- Sanjay Rath <daivagyna wrote:

>

>

> om aià huà hréà stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä

>

> Dear Anna

>

> How did this mail not come to me! is

> misbehaving. Visti has given his comments.

>

> You asked about Mars in 4th and in the example I

> gave this will have a bearing on the 7th house in a

> negative manner. Thats why this position classifies

> as a strong mangalik. Such people prefer having

> their spouse indoors and tend to be very domineering

> over their spouse and who he/she interacts with ,

> their mail etc. Privacy of any sort is totally

> lost..its like MARS keeping GUARD on the 7th house.

> Now thats too much and add to this the aspect of

> Rahu on it....Elvis presley comes to my mind

> "Suspicion toments my heart..." and such a Rahu then

> goes on to break the marriage in the 8th house.

> Thats how they work. Technically there is no sarpa

> dosha as such but the chaturasras being afflicted in

> such a manner can damage the home front

> considerably.

>

> Yours truly,

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> H-5 BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

>

> http://srath.com Tel:+91 674 243 6871

>

>

>

> -

> j.b

> vedic astrology

> Monday, July 28, 2003 8:41 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi /

> Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/sanjay

>

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Your effective explanation on interconnectness of

> all angular houses affairs,

> made me 'mull over this issue further- Can it be

> that even one malefic in angle /if strenght,

> aspects, argalas do not intervene/

> can have similar path of affecting crucial affairs

> of angular houses.

> However, you mentioned 3.

> Would you say 'serpent-like' /not full-kala sarpa

> yoga, obviously/ effect when you have Mars in forth

> trine Rahu in 8th,

> and therefore conjunct in Navasma. Would you be

> incined to see 'serpent-like' effects in this. This

> is a specific question.

> Broader one would be if we could/ if we do

> consider 'serpent like' effect with one, two

> malefics in any angle /even if it happens under

> 'some' circumstances only?

>

> God help,

> hope it's clear.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Anna

>

> lakshmisyama <lakshmisyama wrote:

> Hare Krishna

> Dear Sanjay,

> Pranams

> There were a discussions last month on proper

> sequences of MOola

> dasa,if ketu is involved etc.

> I am also trying to get right sequence for my

> chart.

> I think the answer is right here below in your

> post on sarpa yogas

> etc,

>

> Moola is the "root" cause and in this same line

> all the answers to

> MOola dasa are answered in your post ..as the

> logic and basis is the

> same from my point of view.

> When we meet at SJC west coast conference in

> Sunnyvale it would be

> great to continue our talks on Moola Dasa

> continuing from last

> year..if there is time!

> Thanks so much for your insights , I hope one

> day to beable to think

> deeply on my own.

> With best wishes

> Lakshmi

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay

> Rath"

> <daivagyna@s...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > om aià huà hréà stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä

> >

> > Dear Mukund

> >

> > This would be valid to discuss further as well

> as each of the

> meanings of the results if there was a consensus

> that the four

> kendra, the vishnu sthana, implied the four

> goals of dharma, artha,

> kaama and moksha for 1, 10, 7 & 4th houses. If

> we accept this then

> the understanding of sarpa yoga becomes easy.

> >

> > Secondly, in the chapter on Yogakaraka

> Parasara speaks of

> paraspara yogakaraka which is the undelying

> principle behind the

> working of the signs in mutual kendras. That is

> the signs in kendra

> are of one type and an affliction coming to one

> has its impact on

> other quadrants as well. Understand it like

> this. Lets say someones

> health is bad and he is in hospital or is

> undergoing serious

> treatment, then his work also suffers and he

> cannot go to work. If a

> person has no work and no means of income (10th

> is damaged) then his

> personal life also suffers as the wife is more

> inclined to leave

> him, fights at home etc etc. If there is no wife

> at all (7th is

> empty) then what to talk of making a home (4th

> house)! He is a free

> bird and can fly anywhere...that is the

> implication between the

> interconnectivity of the kendra.

> >

> > Lets say Sarpa yoga is not technically present

> and we have one

> malefic in lagna and two malefic planets in the

> 7th house. Then his

> health/mind is under threat and personal life is

> full of worry's. So

> will this not impact the 10th & 4th houses based

> on Paraspara karaka

> theory of Parasara.

> >

> > I give an illustration.........

> >

> > Taurus Lagna with Rahu in it. Ketu and sun in

> 7th house. This

> young boy ( afriend of my younger brother) was

> like a brother to me.

> He got into some bad company, was into alcohol

> and all sots of

> addictions. Wore a diamond on my pushing, went

> for de-addiction camp

> and fell in love with the girl who nursed him

> (see 4th lord in 7th

> house). Sun in 7th ...sva kule gupte cha...the

> girl became the most

> trusted lady of his home after their marriage.

> They were always

> separated as she was in Bombay and he was trying

> to do some

> business. He died recently of brain

> haemorraghe..blood pressure I

> believe. He was never short of wealth (see the

> sun involved in the

> Yoga did not deny financial strength to the

> chart) but he could

> never really get out of alcohol, although he did

> give up other

> things.

> >

> > Addiction is one of the signs of sarpa yoga as

> it is the poison

> that is spread in the body. there will be some

> form of addiction

> depending on the nature of planets and the

> extent to which it is

> broken. See a few cases, study them very

> carefully with each of the

> results given and see to what extent these

> results apply and why.

> >

> > Yours truly,

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > H-5 BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Shanthi,

Perhaps you are taking too literal meaning of the yogas. In your case Venus

is aspecting his own house making 7th house strong. Again Mars is in

saturn's house making him not very strong. His 6th house lordship did take

your husband away from you.

It is always better to consider house ownership and strength of planets

before applying astrological rules blindly to a chart. You have seen what

happens when one does not do so.

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

shanthi Parthasarathy [shanthisarathy]

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:31 PM

vedic astrology

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi / Sarpa Dosa/Moola

dasa/sanjay-->To Sanjay JI

 

 

Dear Sanjay Ji,

I also have Mars in 4th place( scorpio Asc ) and

Saturn/Rahu in fifth place.Venus is in Lagna. so 7th

place is aspected by Saturn, Mars and Venus. As per

your comment, I should have suspected/dominated my

husband which I never did.but unfortuantely he died.

And also According BPHS, I should have illicit

relationship before marriage according to my rasi

chart. I didn't even have such a thought in my life.

How come some of the readings are wrong? Should I

check the other divisional charts too before coming to

a conclusion?

Thanks and Regards,

Shanthi

 

 

 

 

 

--- Sanjay Rath <daivagyna wrote:

>

>

> om aià huà hréà stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä

>

> Dear Anna

>

> How did this mail not come to me! is

> misbehaving. Visti has given his comments.

>

> You asked about Mars in 4th and in the example I

> gave this will have a bearing on the 7th house in a

> negative manner. Thats why this position classifies

> as a strong mangalik. Such people prefer having

> their spouse indoors and tend to be very domineering

> over their spouse and who he/she interacts with ,

> their mail etc. Privacy of any sort is totally

> lost..its like MARS keeping GUARD on the 7th house.

> Now thats too much and add to this the aspect of

> Rahu on it....Elvis presley comes to my mind

> "Suspicion toments my heart..." and such a Rahu then

> goes on to break the marriage in the 8th house.

> Thats how they work. Technically there is no sarpa

> dosha as such but the chaturasras being afflicted in

> such a manner can damage the home front

> considerably.

>

> Yours truly,

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> H-5 BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

>

> http://srath.com Tel:+91 674 243 6871

>

>

>

> -

> j.b

> vedic astrology

> Monday, July 28, 2003 8:41 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi /

> Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/sanjay

>

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Your effective explanation on interconnectness of

> all angular houses affairs,

> made me 'mull over this issue further- Can it be

> that even one malefic in angle /if strenght,

> aspects, argalas do not intervene/

> can have similar path of affecting crucial affairs

> of angular houses.

> However, you mentioned 3.

> Would you say 'serpent-like' /not full-kala sarpa

> yoga, obviously/ effect when you have Mars in forth

> trine Rahu in 8th,

> and therefore conjunct in Navasma. Would you be

> incined to see 'serpent-like' effects in this. This

> is a specific question.

> Broader one would be if we could/ if we do

> consider 'serpent like' effect with one, two

> malefics in any angle /even if it happens under

> 'some' circumstances only?

>

> God help,

> hope it's clear.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Anna

>

> lakshmisyama <lakshmisyama wrote:

> Hare Krishna

> Dear Sanjay,

> Pranams

> There were a discussions last month on proper

> sequences of MOola

> dasa,if ketu is involved etc.

> I am also trying to get right sequence for my

> chart.

> I think the answer is right here below in your

> post on sarpa yogas

> etc,

>

> Moola is the "root" cause and in this same line

> all the answers to

> MOola dasa are answered in your post ..as the

> logic and basis is the

> same from my point of view.

> When we meet at SJC west coast conference in

> Sunnyvale it would be

> great to continue our talks on Moola Dasa

> continuing from last

> year..if there is time!

> Thanks so much for your insights , I hope one

> day to beable to think

> deeply on my own.

> With best wishes

> Lakshmi

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Sanjay

> Rath"

> <daivagyna@s...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > om aià huà hréà stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä

> >

> > Dear Mukund

> >

> > This would be valid to discuss further as well

> as each of the

> meanings of the results if there was a consensus

> that the four

> kendra, the vishnu sthana, implied the four

> goals of dharma, artha,

> kaama and moksha for 1, 10, 7 & 4th houses. If

> we accept this then

> the understanding of sarpa yoga becomes easy.

> >

> > Secondly, in the chapter on Yogakaraka

> Parasara speaks of

> paraspara yogakaraka which is the undelying

> principle behind the

> working of the signs in mutual kendras. That is

> the signs in kendra

> are of one type and an affliction coming to one

> has its impact on

> other quadrants as well. Understand it like

> this. Lets say someones

> health is bad and he is in hospital or is

> undergoing serious

> treatment, then his work also suffers and he

> cannot go to work. If a

> person has no work and no means of income (10th

> is damaged) then his

> personal life also suffers as the wife is more

> inclined to leave

> him, fights at home etc etc. If there is no wife

> at all (7th is

> empty) then what to talk of making a home (4th

> house)! He is a free

> bird and can fly anywhere...that is the

> implication between the

> interconnectivity of the kendra.

> >

> > Lets say Sarpa yoga is not technically present

> and we have one

> malefic in lagna and two malefic planets in the

> 7th house. Then his

> health/mind is under threat and personal life is

> full of worry's. So

> will this not impact the 10th & 4th houses based

> on Paraspara karaka

> theory of Parasara.

> >

> > I give an illustration.........

> >

> > Taurus Lagna with Rahu in it. Ketu and sun in

> 7th house. This

> young boy ( afriend of my younger brother) was

> like a brother to me.

> He got into some bad company, was into alcohol

> and all sots of

> addictions. Wore a diamond on my pushing, went

> for de-addiction camp

> and fell in love with the girl who nursed him

> (see 4th lord in 7th

> house). Sun in 7th ...sva kule gupte cha...the

> girl became the most

> trusted lady of his home after their marriage.

> They were always

> separated as she was in Bombay and he was trying

> to do some

> business. He died recently of brain

> haemorraghe..blood pressure I

> believe. He was never short of wealth (see the

> sun involved in the

> Yoga did not deny financial strength to the

> chart) but he could

> never really get out of alcohol, although he did

> give up other

> things.

> >

> > Addiction is one of the signs of sarpa yoga as

> it is the poison

> that is spread in the body. there will be some

> form of addiction

> depending on the nature of planets and the

> extent to which it is

> broken. See a few cases, study them very

> carefully with each of the

> results given and see to what extent these

> results apply and why.

> >

> > Yours truly,

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > H-5 BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

>

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--- Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel wrote:

> Dear Shanthi,

> Perhaps you are taking too literal meaning of the

> yogas. In your case Venus

> is aspecting his own house making 7th house strong.

> Again Mars is in

> saturn's house making him not very strong. His 6th

> house lordship did take

> your husband away from you.

> It is always better to consider house ownership and

> strength of planets

> before applying astrological rules blindly to a

> chart. You have seen what

> happens when one does not do so.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

> shanthi Parthasarathy

> [shanthisarathy]

> Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:31 PM

> vedic astrology

> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi /

> Sarpa Dosa/Moola

> dasa/sanjay-->To Sanjay JI

>

>

> Dear Sanjay Ji,

> I also have Mars in 4th place( scorpio Asc ) and

> Saturn/Rahu in fifth place.Venus is in Lagna. so 7th

> place is aspected by Saturn, Mars and Venus. As per

> your comment, I should have suspected/dominated my

> husband which I never did.but unfortuantely he died.

> And also According BPHS, I should have illicit

> relationship before marriage according to my rasi

> chart. I didn't even have such a thought in my life.

> How come some of the readings are wrong? Should I

> check the other divisional charts too before coming

> to

> a conclusion?

> Thanks and Regards,

> Shanthi

>

>

>

>

>

> --- Sanjay Rath <daivagyna wrote:

> >

> >

> > om aià huà hréà stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä

> >

> > Dear Anna

> >

> > How did this mail not come to me! is

> > misbehaving. Visti has given his comments.

> >

> > You asked about Mars in 4th and in the example I

> > gave this will have a bearing on the 7th house in

> a

> > negative manner. Thats why this position

> classifies

> > as a strong mangalik. Such people prefer having

> > their spouse indoors and tend to be very

> domineering

> > over their spouse and who he/she interacts with ,

> > their mail etc. Privacy of any sort is totally

> > lost..its like MARS keeping GUARD on the 7th

> house.

> > Now thats too much and add to this the aspect of

> > Rahu on it....Elvis presley comes to my mind

> > "Suspicion toments my heart..." and such a Rahu

> then

> > goes on to break the marriage in the 8th house.

> > Thats how they work. Technically there is no sarpa

> > dosha as such but the chaturasras being afflicted

> in

> > such a manner can damage the home front

> > considerably.

> >

> > Yours truly,

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > H-5 BJB Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> >

> > http://srath.com Tel:+91 674 243 6871

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > j.b

> > vedic astrology

> > Monday, July 28, 2003 8:41 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Nagpanchmi /

> > Sarpa Dosa/Moola dasa/sanjay

> >

> >

> > Dear Sanjay,

> >

> > Your effective explanation on interconnectness

> of

> > all angular houses affairs,

> > made me 'mull over this issue further- Can it be

> > that even one malefic in angle /if strenght,

> > aspects, argalas do not intervene/

> > can have similar path of affecting crucial

> affairs

> > of angular houses.

> > However, you mentioned 3.

> > Would you say 'serpent-like' /not full-kala

> sarpa

> > yoga, obviously/ effect when you have Mars in

> forth

> > trine Rahu in 8th,

> > and therefore conjunct in Navasma. Would you be

> > incined to see 'serpent-like' effects in this.

> This

> > is a specific question.

> > Broader one would be if we could/ if we do

> > consider 'serpent like' effect with one, two

> > malefics in any angle /even if it happens under

> > 'some' circumstances only?

> >

> > God help,

> > hope it's clear.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Anna

> >

> > lakshmisyama <lakshmisyama wrote:

> > Hare Krishna

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > Pranams

> > There were a discussions last month on proper

> > sequences of MOola

> > dasa,if ketu is involved etc.

> > I am also trying to get right sequence for my

> > chart.

> > I think the answer is right here below in your

> > post on sarpa yogas

> > etc,

> >

> > Moola is the "root" cause and in this same

> line

> > all the answers to

> > MOola dasa are answered in your post ..as the

> > logic and basis is the

> > same from my point of view.

> > When we meet at SJC west coast conference in

> > Sunnyvale it would be

> > great to continue our talks on Moola Dasa

> > continuing from last

> > year..if there is time!

> > Thanks so much for your insights , I hope one

> > day to beable to think

> > deeply on my own.

> > With best wishes

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> "Sanjay

> > Rath"

> > <daivagyna@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > om aià huà hréà stréà gurursarasvatyai svähä

> > >

> > > Dear Mukund

> > >

> > > This would be valid to discuss further as

> well

> > as each of the

> > meanings of the results if there was a

> consensus

> > that the four

> > kendra, the vishnu sthana, implied the four

> > goals of dharma, artha,

> > kaama and moksha for 1, 10, 7 & 4th houses. If

> > we accept this then

> > the understanding of sarpa yoga becomes easy.

> > >

> > > Secondly, in the chapter on Yogakaraka

> > Parasara speaks of

> > paraspara yogakaraka which is the undelying

> > principle behind the

> > working of the signs in mutual kendras. That

> is

> > the signs in kendra

> > are of one type and an affliction coming to

> one

> > has its impact on

> > other quadrants as well. Understand it like

> > this. Lets say someones

> > health is bad and he is in hospital or is

> > undergoing serious

> > treatment, then his work also suffers and he

> > cannot go to work. If a

> > person has no work and no means of income

> (10th

> > is damaged) then his

>

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