Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Dear Members and Gurujis, In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native?? Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. Best Wishes and Namaste to all Mahesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Mahesh, Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief. About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same. Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot. Best Wishes Sarajit - bcitus vedic astrology Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors. Dear Members and Gurujis, In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5thJust isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native??Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. Best Wishes and Namaste to all Mahesh Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 Dear Sarajit. Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one justify the following factors then. 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful. 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries acedent) 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any aspect or affliction. 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the rays of mercury strong. 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu. 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength and power. 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature. 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in cancer. Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in the 6th house. NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such things. Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ?? Thanks and looking foward to ur response Mahesh vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Mahesh, > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief. > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same. > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > - > bcitus > vedic astrology > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > Dear Members and Gurujis, > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native?? > > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. > > Best Wishes and Namaste to all > Mahesh > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Mahesh, In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views on the factors you mentioned are below the queries: - planck12 vedic astrology Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. Dear Sarajit. Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one justify the following factors then. 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful. [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well. 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries acedent) [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs. 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any aspect or affliction. [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse. 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the rays of mercury strong. [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results... watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu. 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu. [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer. 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength and power. [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns.7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature. [sP] The house is saved from further destruction. 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in cancer. [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars. However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings and there shall be relief thereafter.Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in the 6th house. [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope.NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such things. [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th. More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only Rahu's placement in the 4th.Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ?? [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter and Moon would help fulfilling the significations. Thanks and looking foward to ur response Mahesh You are most welcome. Best Wishes Sarajitvedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Mahesh,> > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief.> > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.> > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot.> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> ----- Original Message ----- > bcitus > vedic astrology > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM> [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.> > > Dear Members and Gurujis, > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th> > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native??> > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. > > Best Wishes and Namaste to all > Mahesh > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 Dear Sarajit, Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can possibliy spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope. Particularly in regards to health, proffession and wealth. 6 aug 1980 12:03am bombay regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter Thanks again and warms wishes Mahesh vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Mahesh, > > In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views on the factors you mentioned are below the queries: > > - > planck12 > vedic astrology > Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > Dear Sarajit. > Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one justify the following factors then. > > 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful. > [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well. > > 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries acedent) > > [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs. > > 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any aspect or affliction. > > [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse. > > 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the rays of mercury strong. > > [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results... watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu. > > 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu. > > [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer. > > 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength and power. > > [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns. > > 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature. > [sP] The house is saved from further destruction. > > 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in cancer. > > [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars. However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings and there shall be relief thereafter. > > Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in the 6th house. > > [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope. > > NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such things. > > [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th. More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only Rahu's placement in the 4th. > > Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ?? > > [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter and Moon would help fulfilling the significations. > > Thanks and looking foward to ur response > Mahesh > > You are most welcome. > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Mahesh, > > > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief. > > > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same. > > > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > - > > bcitus > > vedic astrology > > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM > > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujis, > > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th > > > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. > > > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. > > > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native?? > > > > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. > > > > Best Wishes and Namaste to all > > Mahesh > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 || Jaya Jagannat || Dear Mahesh, Here is my response: +--------------+| |As GL |Mo |Ve || | |A6 | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md AL | |Su Me || | |Ra || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Ke HL | |Ju ||Gk | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | | |Ma Sa || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ra |HL GL | |Mo || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |Ma Me || | |Gk || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Sa | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house. Although Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and ability to win over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too. This is again a known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed in opposition, it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn and Mars's presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems from enemity. The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e., Martial and deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own house, whereas Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These all shows involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations. Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding fight is the best course of action. Best Wishes Sarajit - planck12 vedic astrology Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:25 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. Dear Sarajit, Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can possibliy spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope. Particularly in regards to health, proffession and wealth. 6 aug 198012:03am bombay regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter Thanks again and warms wishesMahesh vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Mahesh,> > In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views on the factors you mentioned are below the queries:> > - > planck12 > vedic astrology > Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.> > > Dear Sarajit. > Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one justify the following factors then. > > 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful. > [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well.> > 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries acedent)> > [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs.> > 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any aspect or affliction. > > [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse.> > 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the rays of mercury strong.> > [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results... watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu.> > 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu. > > [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer.> > 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength and power. > > [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns.> > 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature. > [sP] The house is saved from further destruction.> > 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in cancer. > > [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars. However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings and there shall be relief thereafter.> > Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in the 6th house. > > [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope.> > NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such things. > > [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th. More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only Rahu's placement in the 4th.> > Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ??> > [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter and Moon would help fulfilling the significations.> > Thanks and looking foward to ur response > Mahesh > > You are most welcome. > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > --- In vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Mahesh,> > > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief.> > > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.> > > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot.> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > - > > bcitus > > vedic astrology > > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM> > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.> > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujis, > > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th> > > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. > > > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. > > > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native??> > > > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. > > > > Best Wishes and Namaste to all > > Mahesh > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Dear Sarajitji, Thank you for the quick response. Seems true in the case of native however the native is young at this point so I cannot comment much but seems true as I mentioned. Also one more thing I had asked and is pretty crucial if u can respond on this too would be really appreciate. Q. How would the native fair healthwise with malefics in 6th, and other combination. Will the native have a normal health life or will he be married by dieases and if so wot kind of diseases?? Appreciative of your time and effort Mahesh vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannat || > Dear Mahesh, > > Here is my response: > > +--------------+ > | |As GL |Mo |Ve | > | | |A6 | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Md AL | |Su Me | > | | |Ra | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > |Ke HL | |Ju | > |Gk | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > | | | |Ma Sa | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > +--------------+ > |Ra |HL GL | |Mo | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > | | |Ma Me | > | | |Gk | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Navamsa |-----------| > |Sa | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house. Although Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and ability to win over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too. This is again a known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed in opposition, it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn and Mars's presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems from enemity. The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e., Martial and deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own house, whereas Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These all shows involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations. > > Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding fight is the best course of action. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit - > planck12 > vedic astrology > Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:25 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > Dear Sarajit, > Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can possibliy spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope. Particularly in regards to health, proffession and wealth. > > 6 aug 1980 > 12:03am > bombay > > regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter > > Thanks again and warms wishes > Mahesh > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Mahesh, > > > > In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views on the factors you mentioned are below the queries: > > > > - > > planck12 > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > > > > Dear Sarajit. > > Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one justify the following factors then. > > > > 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful. > > [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well. > > > > 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries acedent) > > > > [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs. > > > > 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any aspect or affliction. > > > > [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse. > > > > 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the rays of mercury strong. > > > > [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results... watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu. > > > > 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu. > > > > [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer. > > > > 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength and power. > > > > [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns. > > > > 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature. > > [sP] The house is saved from further destruction. > > > > 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in cancer. > > > > [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars. However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings and there shall be relief thereafter. > > > > Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in the 6th house. > > > > [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope. > > > > NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such things. > > > > [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th. More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only Rahu's placement in the 4th. > > > > Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ?? > > > > [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter and Moon would help fulfilling the significations. > > > > Thanks and looking foward to ur response > > Mahesh > > > > You are most welcome. > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > > Dear Mahesh, > > > > > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief. > > > > > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same. > > > > > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > Sarajit > > > - > > > bcitus > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujis, > > > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th > > > > > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. > > > > > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. > > > > > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native?? > > > > > > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. > > > > > > Best Wishes and Namaste to all > > > Mahesh > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Mahesh, The 8th lord, the ruler of congenital defects is placed in the 6th house with one of its worst enemies. This is not condusive of health and the the body parts ruled by Virgo, i.e. Lower abdomen area is likely to suffer. As Saturn is the badhaka in the chart placed in the 6th house, the source of the trouble could be some kind of black-magic stemming out of enemity. Along with this, the 6th lord is placed with the 5th lord in 4th house, the native might suffer from some kind of heart weaknesses, stemming out of excessive stress and tensions. The remedies are the aspect of Venus on the 6th house combination and subhakartati yoga of the 4th house. So the native chance of recovery too. Best Wishes Sarajit - planck12 vedic astrology Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:05 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. Dear Sarajitji, Thank you for the quick response. Seems true in the case of native however the native is young at this point so I cannot comment much but seems true as I mentioned. Also one more thing I had asked and is pretty crucial if u can respond on this too would be really appreciate. Q. How would the native fair healthwise with malefics in 6th, and other combination. Will the native have a normal health life or will he be married by dieases and if so wot kind of diseases??Appreciative of your time and effort Mahesh --- In vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannat ||> Dear Mahesh,> > Here is my response:> > +--------------+> | |As GL |Mo |Ve |> | | |A6 | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Md AL | |Su Me |> | | |Ra |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------| Rasi |-----------|> |Ke HL | |Ju |> |Gk | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> | | | |Ma Sa |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> +--------------+> > +--------------+> |Ra |HL GL | |Mo |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> | | |Ma Me |> | | |Gk |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------| Navamsa |-----------|> |Sa | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|> |Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> | | | | |> +--------------+> > You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house. Although Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and ability to win over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too. This is again a known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed in opposition, it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn and Mars's presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems from enemity. The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e., Martial and deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own house, whereas Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These all shows involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations.> > Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding fight is the best course of action.> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > > > > > > - > planck12 > vedic astrology > Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:25 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.> > > Dear Sarajit, > Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can possibliy spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope. Particularly in regards to health, proffession and wealth. > > 6 aug 1980> 12:03am > bombay > > regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter > > Thanks again and warms wishes> Mahesh > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Mahesh,> > > > In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views on the factors you mentioned are below the queries:> > > > - > > planck12 > > vedic astrology > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM> > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors.> > > > > > Dear Sarajit. > > Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one justify the following factors then. > > > > 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful. > > [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well.> > > > 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries acedent)> > > > [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs.> > > > 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any aspect or affliction. > > > > [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse.> > > > 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the rays of mercury strong.> > > > [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results... watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu.> > > > 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu. > > > > [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer.> > > > 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength and power. > > > > [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns.> > > > 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature. > > [sP] The house is saved from further destruction.> > > > 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in cancer. > > > > [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars. However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings and there shall be relief thereafter.> > > > Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in the 6th house. > > > > [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope.> > > > NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such things. > > > > [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th. More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only Rahu's placement in the 4th.> > > > Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ??> > > > [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter and Moon would help fulfilling the significations.> > > > Thanks and looking foward to ur response > > Mahesh > > > > You are most welcome. > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote:> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > > Dear Mahesh,> > > > > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief.> > > > > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same.> > > > > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot.> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > Sarajit> > > - > > > bcitus > > > vedic astrology > > > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM> > > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors.> > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujis, > > > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th> > > > > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. > > > > > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. > > > > > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native??> > > > > > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. > > > > > > Best Wishes and Namaste to all > > > Mahesh > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Dear Sarajit, Thank U once again for the response. I dont follow a few things, U have mentioned about Venus aspecting the 6th house combo of mars and saturn. How can this be possibly?? Venus is in the third house and only aspects the 9th house with its sevent aspect. So basically there are no aspects on the 6th house. Also u said the lord of 8th house (which is mars) is placed in the 6th house with its worst enemies. But how can that be?? Saturn is netural to mars isnt it. So basically saturn is not causing any troubles to mars. It is mars however that causes trouble to saturn. So how can mars be troubled by saturn. In addition mars is placed in the nakshtra of hasta whose ruler is moon which is exhlated. And the dispositor of the sixth house (which is ofcouse inmical to mars but friendly to saturn) is placed in 4th house in vargottama. So how do the above factors affect health? Since after all the most prominent affects in a chart are repreated over and again without any cancelling effects. So basically dont the ill effects in the above case cancel out because of the reasons mentioned above. Best Wishes Mahesh vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Mahesh, > > The 8th lord, the ruler of congenital defects is placed in the 6th house with one of its worst enemies. This is not condusive of health and the the body parts ruled by Virgo, i.e. Lower abdomen area is likely to suffer. As Saturn is the badhaka in the chart placed in the 6th house, the source of the trouble could be some kind of black-magic stemming out of enemity. Along with this, the 6th lord is placed with the 5th lord in 4th house, the native might suffer from some kind of heart weaknesses, stemming out of excessive stress and tensions. > > The remedies are the aspect of Venus on the 6th house combination and subhakartati yoga of the 4th house. So the native chance of recovery too. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > - > planck12 > vedic astrology > Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:05 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > Dear Sarajitji, > Thank you for the quick response. Seems true in the case of native however the native is young at this point so I cannot comment much but seems true as I mentioned. > > Also one more thing I had asked and is pretty crucial if u can respond on this too would be really appreciate. > > Q. How would the native fair healthwise with malefics in 6th, and other combination. Will the native have a normal health life or will he be married by dieases and if so wot kind of diseases?? > > Appreciative of your time and effort > Mahesh > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannat || > > Dear Mahesh, > > > > Here is my response: > > > > +--------------+ > > | |As GL |Mo |Ve | > > | | |A6 | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Md AL | |Su Me | > > | | |Ra | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > |Ke HL | |Ju | > > |Gk | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > | | | |Ma Sa | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > +--------------+ > > |Ra |HL GL | |Mo | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > | | |Ma Me | > > | | |Gk | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------| Navamsa |-----------| > > |Sa | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > |Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +--------------+ > > > > You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house. Although Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and ability to win over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too. This is again a known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed in opposition, it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn and Mars's presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems from enemity. The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e., Martial and deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own house, whereas Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These all shows involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations. > > > > Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding fight is the best course of action. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > planck12 > > vedic astrology > > Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:25 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > > > > Dear Sarajit, > > Thanks for the responses. The following are the brith details if u can possibliy spare some of ur time and give ur thoughts on the horoscope. Particularly in regards to health, proffession and wealth. > > > > 6 aug 1980 > > 12:03am > > bombay > > > > regards and waiting for ur final response on this matter > > > > Thanks again and warms wishes > > Mahesh > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > > Dear Mahesh, > > > > > > In the absense of the horoscope, I only shared the genral rules. My views on the factors you mentioned are below the queries: > > > > > > - > > > planck12 > > > vedic astrology > > > Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:39 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > > > > > > > Dear Sarajit. > > > Yes I agree with U well at a glance yups that seems the case. But How can one justify the following factors then. > > > > > > 1. Mercury is vargottma (in cancer in both D9 and Rashi)Makes it powerful. > > > [sP] Education, the natural significations of Mercury should be well. > > > > > > 2. The lord of 4th house moon is exhlated in second house of taraus (aries acedent) > > > > > > [sP] This is a great strength to the afflicted house. The weakeness due to eclipse in that house is greatly diminished due to this. The dasa of 4th lord shall be specifically good for the 4th house affairs. > > > > > > 3.4th house is under strong shuba khartai yoga (in the third house venus in gemini which it its friendly house) and in 5th house Jupiter in leo without any aspect or affliction. > > > > > > [sP] In my previous mail, I overlooked this factor. Infact this is one of the greatest boon for saving the affairs of the 4th house. The natural significations of Venus and Jupiter shall be a great help to the native in pulling out the native from the impact of the combinations in the 4th hiuse. > > > > > > 4. Mercury is not combust which keep the budh atigya yoga strong and keeps the rays of mercury strong. > > > > > > [sP] What can you expect from the Budhaditya yoga of Mercury with eclipsed Sun. Moreover, a planets posted with the eclipse combination does suffer. More to this, Mercury takes the characteristics of the planets its associated with. So with a afflicted Sun, it would rather give bad results... watch out Mercury- Sun or Mercury- Rahu. > > > > > > 5. Rahu is strong in cancer it is mentioned in the classics. That Rahu in cancer is suppose to be one of the better placements for rahu. > > > > > > [sP] The effect of Rahu is toned down in Cancer. > > > > > > 6. Planets placed in the house whose lord gets exhlated accquire more strength and power. > > > > > > [sP] I agree. It will protect the house it owns. > > > > > > 7. There are no aspects on the 4th house of any malefic nature. > > > [sP] The house is saved from further destruction. > > > > > > 8. Sun which is suppose to be a Functional Benefic for The aries acedent and a first rate yoga kakra is placed in cancer in a friendly sign. Mercury cannot afflict sun since mercury is netural to sun and its nature is simliar to sun. However the only cause of afflication there is rahu. But rahu too is strengthed by being placed in cancer because cancer is (in some books considered a mool trinkona sign for rahu) but in any case it is considred friendly placed in cancer. > > > > > > [sP] As you said there are multiple factors involved. Sun is not a yogakaraka, although a functional benefic and a friend to the Lagna lord Mars. However, its affliction with Rahu shall change its nature and such Sun would not give the results of functional beneficence. Mercury is the lord of 3/6th and two trisadays. Parasara says the association of the trisadayas with the yoga karakas break the yogas. So this is not a good combination as long as the yoga is concerned. However, nevertheless, irrespective of the Lagnas, the association of Sun and Merc is considered good as the person becomes skillful and adept (other association and aspect can impact this). You are trying to make positive things from the negetivities... However, that doesnot help... what is mitigating the affliction is the subhakartari yoga and the strength of the lord and the vargottamamsa of Mercury. However this does show that there shall be sufferings and there shall be relief thereafter. > > > > > > Finally I had posted the placement of venus in my pervious query apprently I think u bypassed reading it. Also mars and saturn are cojoined and ploaced in the 6th house. > > > > > > [sP] Yep, I was only commenting on the planetary positions in the fourth house. Overall analysis can only be done, only if I have the horoscope. > > > > > > NEways based on the above factors I would appreciate ur reponse on the 4th house. As to why would 4th house matters suffer is it just because of rahu being placed in there. But if that were the case then basically everyone having rahu in the 4th house would have difficulty in getting and acquring proprty and such things. > > > > > > [sP] Its not because of Rahu in the 4th, but the eclipse of Sun in 4th. More to this also check the strength of Karaka for any matter along with the house. Rahu in the 4th debilitated does give a strong Rajayoga. So its not only Rahu's placement in the 4th. > > > > > > Also techincally speaking rahu with any planet would afflict it. Though my question is more along the lines as to how much afffliction will it cause and in the abvove case since there are more factors in support of forth house than against it. I think it would be more logical to assume that 4th house matters would be fulfiled. Dont u think so ?? > > > > > > [sP] It would, to some extent as I mentioned before and Venus, Jupiter and Moon would help fulfilling the significations. > > > > > > Thanks and looking foward to ur response > > > Mahesh > > > > > > You are most welcome. > > > Best Wishes > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajitp@h...> wrote: > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > > > Dear Mahesh, > > > > > > > > Sun and Rahu as you said is surya-chandala yoga or rather eclipse of Sun by Rahu and Mercury being placed ther is getting affected because of this combination. It will affect almost all the areas of the 4th house however, the areas shall be salvaged, whose karaka is placed in the Kendra / Trikona from the fourth or aspect the fourth house. Along with the combination if the Karaka is afflicted or weak then, surely that particular signification is bound to suffer. By any chance, any natural benefic aspecting that sign... if yes, strenthen that benefic to get some relief. > > > > > > > > About conveyances and property, check the placement of Venus and Mars and their influence on the 4th. If they are favourably/ strongly placed wrt factors mentioned above, the native shall have the significations fulfilled, although after troubles. Check out the correct dasa for the same. > > > > > > > > Be sure, the houses owned by Mercury is also going to suffer a lot. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Sarajit > > > > - > > > > bcitus > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Friday, July 25, 2003 3:24 PM > > > > [vedic astrology] Affliction of Sun and other factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Gurujis, > > > > In a particular horoscope, aries acedent, the sun oppucies the 4th house along with mercury and rahu. The dispositor of the 4th house moon is exhlated in the second house. Mercury is vargottma. And fourth house is in shuba kharti yoga with venus in thrid and jupiter in 5th > > > > > > > > Just isolating the above facotors. Would one consider the matters of the fourth house afflicted or would fourth house results fruity for the native. > > > > > > > > Also the sun is it afflicted. Since practically speaking Rahu and mercury are both inmical to Surya. But Sun+ mer gives budhadityua yoga and Rahu+Sun gives surya chandala yoga. Both of thses yogas are good for the proffessional life of the person also the sun+mer+rahu combination is aspeceting the 10th house. > > > > > > > > In general I wish to find out how the matters of the 4th house would unfold (like convenyuences and vehicles and proprty) and also what is the status of sun weather it is afflicted or weather it would give good results to the native?? > > > > > > > > Any and all suggestion would be really appreciated. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes and Namaste to all > > > > Mahesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Dear Sarajitji Namaskars A question please to clarify my basics. In your message below I havent understood ...."Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate." . I mean what is the exact rule(s) applied to conclude that there would be a stalemate. Also please suggest some book for details of arudha positions and their effects. Thanks & RegardsRajeev Juneja - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:01 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. || Jaya Jagannat || Dear Mahesh, Here is my response: +--------------+| |As GL |Mo |Ve || | |A6 | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md AL | |Su Me || | |Ra || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Ke HL | |Ju ||Gk | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | | |Ma Sa || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ra |HL GL | |Mo || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |Ma Me || | |Gk || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Sa | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house. Although Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and ability to win over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too. This is again a known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed in opposition, it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn and Mars's presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems from enemity. The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e., Martial and deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own house, whereas Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These all shows involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations. Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding fight is the best course of action. Best Wishes Sarajit - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Rajeev, The planets in the 3rd and 6th from the AL, shows the methods one would employ in this world to show his courage and fight battles/ litigations. If benefics are placed, then he would not be interested in such things and would be saintly and if malefics are placed then he would employ the means shown by those planets in the areas mentioned above. Best Wishes Sarajit - Anil Juneja vedic astrology Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:17 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. Dear Sarajitji Namaskars A question please to clarify my basics. In your message below I havent understood ...."Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate." . I mean what is the exact rule(s) applied to conclude that there would be a stalemate. Also please suggest some book for details of arudha positions and their effects. Thanks & RegardsRajeev Juneja - Sarajit Poddar vedic astrology Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:01 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Affliction of Sun and other factors. || Jaya Jagannat || Dear Mahesh, Here is my response: +--------------+| |As GL |Mo |Ve || | |A6 | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Md AL | |Su Me || | |Ra || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Ke HL | |Ju ||Gk | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | | |Ma Sa || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Ra |HL GL | |Mo || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| | |Ma Me || | |Gk || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Navamsa |-----------||Sa | | || | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su AL |Ve |As Md |Ju Ke || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ You have asked about the Mars and Saturn placement in the 6th house. Although Malefics placed in the 6th house does give tremendous courage and ability to win over enemies, nevertheless, it shows troubles from enemies too. This is again a known fact that whenever Saturn and Mars are conjoined or placed in opposition, it does show trouble to/ from the house it is placed. So Saturn and Mars's presence in the 6th house, gives troublesome enemies and problems from enemity. The nature of enemies can be seen from Saturn and Mars, i.e., Martial and deceptive enemies. In the Navamsa Saturn is well placed in own house, whereas Mars is placed with the vargottama Mercury and 6th lord. These all shows involvement with frequent fights with enemies and litigations. Now seen from Arudha, the ways employed by the enemies and you for fighting each other, we can see that the planets who are in 6th from your AL is placed in the 3rd from A6, showing stalemate. Hmm... I guess its better avoiding fight is the best course of action. Best Wishes Sarajit - Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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